Wednesday 4 March 2009

Musicals and the Gay Gene


March 18, 2003

Arguments about whether there's a "gay gene" have roiled scholars for years. But as Oscar night approaches, I'm going out on a limb to declare that while we may never stop arguing about that, we can be sure of one thing: There's a Broadway musical gene, and gay men have it. Solid proof is on movie screens all over America.

Chicago, the most sizzling movie musical since Cabaret, is single-handedly reviving what was until recently considered a moribund art form. And no surprise to me, it was created in almost every sense by gays: namely, its writer, producers, and brilliant director. Pure coincidence? Puhl-e-e-eze. Chicago is just the latest bit of scientific evidence that while the homosexual hypothalamus may not necessarily determine sexual orientation, it sure knows how to tap its toes.

It's funny about gay men and musicals. Sure, the theater queen stereotype may be a bit overblown. But when you count up the sheer number of Cole Porters and Michael Bennetts, Stephen Sondheims and Noel Cowards, Jerome Robbinses, Jerry Hermans, Leonard Bernsteins, and Tommy Tunes, you have to admit that a velvet mafia has always had Broadway in its pocket.

And what's true onstage is just as true out there in the audience. Starting in junior high, boys blessed with the Broadway gene reflexively shun the gridiron to embrace Gypsy. And what happens? They're almost automatically pegged as gays-in-training. (I know--I was one.)

As we grow older, the gene manifests itself in strange and eerie ways. For decades phrases like "friend of Dorothy" were pillars of the secret code of the closet. Today's repository of this genetic lore isn't so much the Broadway stage as the big city piano bar--as gay an institution as the leather bar. There you'll find theater queens, driven by an impulse Freud never addressed, sitting around singing obscure songs from shows that closed out of town--and somehow knowing every word!

So Foucaultians can whistle against the wind. Homosexuality and hoofing go together like ... well, like song and dance.

Need more proof? Consider this. For the past couple of decades the musical was considered a dying art form. Rock overthrew Broadway show tunes as America's most popular music, and audiences supposedly didn't buy actors spontaneously bursting into song. Maybe. But it's just as possible that musicals declined because the vital gay link had been damaged.

AIDS swept away many of Broadway's leading gay lights, like Michael Bennett--people we needed to keep the genre going. And gay lib itself may have thrown a wrench into the genetic works. After all, an intense biological attraction to Ethel Merman and clever lyrics used to create the kind of bond for gays that sports do for many straights. Once we were liberated, our genes went all wooky, confused by a culture that produced disco, the gym, and the circuit. Cut off from what we knew best, gay men were cast adrift.

But biology is destiny, and the sudden success of a movie musical put together by a top gay team has profound clinical implications. The fact that writer Bill Condon, producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron, and director Rob Marshall were able to cook up such a stunning reinvention validates musical essentialism and refutes any constructionist blather that they just "happen" to be gay.

After all, Chicago's gay creators report that they didn't fall in love with musicals because of gay culture or gay oppression, and they certainly weren't "recruited." They "always knew" they loved musicals. Rob Marshall reports that he "knew" when he was 4; Craig Zadan when he was 8. Sound familiar?

This, people, is the mysterious gay musical gene at work. Its fruits are now up on the screen to razzle-dazzle the clueless masses.

So on Oscar night I'll tip my hat to other gay-related films, like The Hours. But I'll be rooting for Chicago. Not just for what it is but what it represents. As Tevye says in Fiddler: Tradition! In this case, a major gay biological tradition, battered and bruised but still all-singing, all-dancing, and all-dreaming, despite changing tastes and the circuit and all that jazz.

Source: The Advocate, article by Gabriel Rotello

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Anonymous said...

I don't know, Just Jared had all the photos, and a reference to Prayers for Bobby and it being about gays and suicide, why not mention One Tree Hill when talking about Austin? We all know JJ is very pr-friendly, and has been the most consistent poster of Reeke photos.

Anonymous said...

^My post on JJ is to question the speculation that TMZ proves it was arranged--wouldn't pr have been consistent? Maybe TMZ doesn't buy photos for the agency that had them?

Anonymous said...

Both Jake and Austin have an investment in playing it straight. I think it is smart that they're seen together as friends.

this was a clever "hey, look, it's no big deal" photo op.

still, it's lovely to see the guys together

Anonymous said...

Why do I have the feeling that we could go a year with reeke pictures and yet everyone would still be referring to reese. Further proof that Jake is just a fly in Reese's universe.

Anonymous said...

You don't wait two years to do a "hey look, it's no big deal" photo opp. To me that screams big deal.

Anonymous said...

I don't know, Just Jared had all the photos, and a reference to Prayers for Bobby and it being about gays and suicide, why not mention One Tree Hill when talking about Austin?

Because Just Jared is run by a gay man or men, and they think Prayers for Bobby is more important than OTH?

Anonymous said...

JJ is very PR friendy and Reeke friendly, he posted them with their blessing. His metioning of Prayers for Bobby instead of OTH is because it was Reeke's PR, not his, he may not be aware that he joined the cast and is just aware of the movie he was in although that's weird. Maybe he decided to add that on his own but nobody else did.

Besides they weren't selling a TV show or movie just a image of two friends biking.

I say PR set up because People posted the one pic of Jake and metioned friend, PR approved. The set wasn't interesting enough for them to post anything else, TMZ is a head scratcher. Maybe they aren't aware that these were photo ops like some believe and thought that PR would get pissed at them if they posted the whole set?

PR must be pleased so far with this non-event outside of Jake's online fandom.

Anonymous said...

Why are they cycling in Brentwood if that's not where Jake lives.

Doesn't just lead credence to the idea that he lives there with Reese?

Isn't Austin just helping to perpetuate this charade by agreeing to be photographed in that area? And why would he agree to that?

Something is not right here. People who were so cynical about everything Jake does are now willing to give a pass because Austin has showed up after hiding for almost two years.

Something is not right.

Anonymous said...

People have different schedules, both work have friends, etc. You need to pick a nice sunny day, make sure you are free, call the paps, arrange the distribution of the pics and make sure you have a ton of Reeke photo ops before (especially the VF party) and after (because you know they are coming)

It may scream big deal in some places but not most.

Anonymous said...

Afternoon Crumbs

Jakey and Austin go riding again. That sentence just made my peen hole pop - (Popsugar)

Dlisted

Anonymous said...

"You don't wait two years to do a "hey look, it's no big deal" photo opp. To me that screams big deal."

I don't know - maybe PR had to loosen up a bit on the hip-to-hip Reeke stuff because it was so phoney.

He could have been papped biking with his trainer or dozen other poeple - but Austin!

O geeze Im so cynical.

Anonymous said...

Photo Gallery Sweatin' With the Stars

Jake Gyllenhaal
If the athletic actor ever decides to trade in his wheels for a bicycle built for two and Reese isn't around to join him, we'd be more than happy to volunteer our services.

(picture of Jake)

E! Online photo

Anonymous said...

To be fair, there were pics of Jake biking solo so maybe TMZ and E decided to go that route, but why People of al rags even bother to mention friend if they didn't show them?? IMO PR wanted the if not to use the whole set at least show them biking together and some sites decided just to show Jake.

Jake was papped there for a whole week running with his trainer, something his PR knew, and in Brentwood not only biking but meeting with the director Russell.

Again they must be pleased with the non-event, even with DListed lame ass lingk to Popsugar of all places!

Anonymous said...

Shit even E didn't recognized Austin !!!
I hope we can rely on Ian to tell us a juicy story ( even if he doesn't seem a convinced jaustin believer)

Anonymous said...

IMO this was a photo op to show that they are just friends and it's no big deal them riding their bikes. It has succeeded because there is no buzz at all, not like last time. The only buzz is on SOME Jake sites and the sites that I mentioned earlier.

I love seeing the pictures of them together, although it does seem that Austin is convenietly doing something with his head turned away from the camera in alot of the shots. As if he knows they are being photographed, he does not want to be photographed but not trying to look too concerned. He either knows about the paps or sense something is going on if the picture was taken with a zoom lense. I really don't know, but Austin looks like he's don't want to be seen. But being with Jake I think he likes.

Anonymous said...

^^ forgot to say that if it's a photo op, he's going along with it but not really into it.

Anonymous said...

I still think Austin is the more attractive bloke. But that's just me. ;)

^^ I don't see it.
The forehead, the ears, and too skinny. He's ok. Never seen the interest in Austin. But, if Jake likes him!

Anonymous said...

Too skinny? Nah, Austin works out and it showes:

Jake and Austin

Anonymous said...

We only got the shots pr wanted, so you can't judge how Austin feels from a few photos, and he's certainly not looking away when they're riding. IMO they wanted to show "safe" photos, not ones that showed Austin and Jake looking at each other in any way.

And yes, that's my point about Just Jared, he printed what pr wanted. So why did pr want them to mention the gay project rather than the safe, fangirl-oriented show?

All in all, does look like they wanted to give the impression that they're just a couple of straight, but gay-friendly guys. Damage control for Jake, perhaps.

Anonymous said...

Friday, March 06, 2009
Random Photos Part One

I think Jake and Patrick Dempsey should race against each other. We could call it the Tour De Jackass.

(picture of Jake)

Ent Lawyer

Anonymous said...

Ouch! Ent Lawyer is (still) pissed off with Jake.

Anonymous said...

Yes, looks like...but again no mentioning of Austin......Strange!

Anonymous said...

What's next?

Ted posting a photo of Jake and commenting how he looks in spandex?

Anonymous said...

Why is he pissed off at Jake?

Anonymous said...

Kicking and spiting.

Ent Lawyer
Thursday, January 29, 2009

Jake Gyllenhaal Has An Anger Problem

I know that I make fun of Jake to some extent. OK, well, I make fun of him a lot. I can honestly say much of that is probably colored by the fact that I have never been a really big fan of his. He just kind of rubs me the wrong way. I have liked some of his roles but I don't go see a movie just because he is in it.

Last night, I was watching TMZ videos. OK, let me stop right there. I often think TMZ video guys, or whoever they are buying the videos from ask the most stupid questions and often do whatever they can to provoke a celebrity into reacting a certain way. I got that. I understand that. You and I have no idea what happened before the camera was turned on or the point where we start watching.

That being said, click here, to see a video of Jake coming back from lunch to continue his jury duty service. Jake was not a friendly guy. And, if he did kick the guy, he did commit battery while being on a jury for a guy accused of battery. You have to love that. I actually think this was the entire clip and all the guy did was try and catch up with Jake to get a comment.

So, then after court, an entirely different cameraman than the one from lunch follows Jake and asks him a question and Jake spits at the guy. I mean wtf kind of behavior is that? I was disgusted when I saw that, and any respect I had for Jake as a person was gone after that. You do not spit on people. I don't care if it was at the guy's feet or whatever. You just don't do it. Click here to see that video.

Anonymous said...

FYI, I sat in on Ian's chat yesterday. I think it was the best one I've sat in on yet. The first guest was a literary agent who's suing ODB's manager for making anti-Semitic remarks about him in a book on the late hip hop musician. He was interesting. And there was A LOT of talk about Michael Jackson. As someone who used to be a big fan of MJ, it deeply saddened me (as it always does when I hear news about MJ). Ian and his guest felt the same.

And YES Jake's name DID come up in the second segment when Ian introduced a second guest--John Cohan, a longtime psychic to the stars. Not only does he consult current A-listers but also past legends and stars like Brando, Natalie Wood,etc. (It was fascinating hearing him speak about the old stars). He also did readings for Heath whom he liked A LOT and called a "very sweet kind guy." He told Ian that Heath's death was not what we think and when Ian asked him to elaborate further, he said he couldn't because he had promised an exclusive to a magazine.

When Ian asked John what he thinks about Jake (by the way, I think John was SPOT-ON on Brangelina and other current celebs), he said he doesn't understand the fuss about Jake one bit. He said he didn't mean to be mean but frankly he doesn't think Jake is a good actor (he said you have to "pull it OUT" from him and then some) and that Jake is someone who had it easy in life and that he is VERY boring and blah. No personality. When Ian asked him if he thinks Jake is gay, John said he didn't know--he could be considering so many people in Hollywood are gay (John also thinks Reese and Jake are basically platonic and they're a sham like a lot of HW relationships) but John added Jake is so boring and uninteresting, he fails to see HOW a gay man could find him interesting over an extended period.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 6:24 PM.

John Cohan doesn't like Jakey?!? What is wrong with him?

Anonymous said...

John doesn't think Jake has "it"--and he noted, that even though he doesn't like to compare, Heath had "it" and was a far superior actor. (Well, I agree with him about the acting--sorry Jake). He said Jake will continue to have some success but it will never reach a very high level--it will fizzle simply because Jake is not very good and he's just "there"--bland and no personality.

If I had never seen Jake in BBM, sadly-I would agree. His post BBM performances have been terrible and they don't seem like they'll improve. Maybe there's hope with "Brothers."

Anonymous said...

I love seeing the pictures of them together, although it does seem that Austin is convenietly doing something with his head turned away from the camera in alot of the shots. As if he knows they are being photographed, he does not want to be photographed but not trying to look too concerned.

ITA. Austin is trying to act nonchalant but looks as unrelaxed about the paps as in the old Coffee pictures.

Anonymous said...

We can safely say this john hate Jake!

Anonymous said...

John Cohan says that he doesn't understand how gay men could find such a boring guy interesting, but is he implying that straight women would find such a boring man interesting? What a joke and a plant. Cohan is not only stereotyping gay men, but he's also condoning the fauxmance, at least as a vehicle for self-promotion.

Anonymous said...

John Cohan is a joke like Ian

Anonymous said...

Why is he a joke because he doesn't worship Jake? He doesn't think he's a good actor (he certainly hasn't shown his acting skills in his post-BBM roles) and he thinks he's boring. He is. But then again, a lot of actors (like DeNiro) are very boring but they're great actors. Jake is not there yet. And it's not like he is very charismatic and a big box office draw like Will Smith. Maybe it'll change when PoP is released and maybe I'm the Queen.

Anonymous said...

What I don't understand in those biking pics is why is Jake biking NEXT to Austin instead of after him in a line or leading him in a single file? Seriously, isn't it dangerous a bit to ride side by side like that in traffic?

Anonymous said...

listen , maybe Jake should stop acting if he is so bad.
Well life is unfair, heath is gone but Jake is still there.

Anonymous said...

I think John Cohen hit it on the head when he said Jake's acting is mediocre. That is why he has no good projects. Not the gay rumors. If it were the rumors only, the bearding would have fixed it up. But it's easier to blame gay rumors than bad acting.

Anonymous said...

Reese Witherspoon arrived at L.A.’s Smashbox Studio wearing a sunny ensemble of boyfriend jeans from RRL, a creamcolor henley, and beaded gladiator sandals from Sigerson Morrison. The ELLE team presented racks of airy, clean-cut classics, including a beige Rodarte gown the star vowed to wear at her next red carpet engagement. The mother of two swayed to a mixture of the White Stripes and Maroon 5 (her own iPod), while photographer Carter Smith snapped her in a sharp Calvin Klein blazer and skinny trousers. When boyfriend Jake Gyllenhaal made a surprise visit to the set, the couple embraced, and as Witherspoon’s mix turned to a Jack Johnson tune, the two dropped everything and started slow dancing. Do we hear wedding bells?

Elle Load of Crap

Anonymous said...

Correct me, but aren't ipods made for 1 person (or 2 if you have another plug) and they use earplugs? Can an ipod project sound thru a room like it has powerful speakers? Sorry i'm not into music, don't own one.

Anonymous said...

Uh-oh, we have a problem

prairiegirl said...

I know in a car you can share earsets to listen to an IPod, but that's for travel purposes. I suppose they want us to think that in some impromptu, blissfully romantic moment, she gave Jake one of her earbuds and they just felt compelled to waltz.

I know this comes from Elle magazine which like Vogue is a reputable publication. But I really find this story a little farfetched. Why would Jake go to this? Very possible, I suppose if he was picking her up for lunch or something, but when they go into this spin about breaking into a dance, the story takes a turn for fiction.

In alllllll the appearances together these 2 have had, alllll the photo ops, there has just never been this air of "hopeless romanticism" about them. Just like the Vogue story, with Jake scribbling things in the restaurant guestbook & the sheer romanticism of their trip to Paris, this idea of these 2 breaking into an impromptu, uncontrollable need to dance just smacks of extraordinary.

Was there a JumboTron around, I'd like to know? If there was, I could believe it.

Anonymous said...

Seeing the pics of Jake and Austin yesterday, it keeps reminding me of when Jake sang "And I am Telling You I'm Not Going" to his unique fanbase then started his 2 year homophobic bearding right after. After these bike pics I wouldn't be surprised to see Reeke engaged. Jake seems to think he's pacifying people when all he's really doing is cheating himself.

Anonymous said...

Anyone read today's Ent Lawyer's "Your Turn" ? "Biggest Lie you ever told or were told", anon comments ok. Over 200 comments, most anons, some really good lies. Amazing.

Anonymous said...

"i'm an actor and have been the subject of a blind or two on this site.

i tell people i hate the press and don't read anything about myself, but i secretly like to troll blogs such as this and occasionally "out" my peers when i know they are the answer to blind items/rumours"

Anonymous said...

^^ from EL. Maybe Jake?!

Anonymous said...

If PR thinks these photos help their Jake is straight case, they are dumber than dirt. But then, we already knew that. Jake looks so peaceful and content. Nothing like he ever looks with Reese. I think this is the restart of Jake and Austin out and about.

They are not going to marry. A woman in love, on the verge of marriage, does not say no no no no. A woman bearding with a gay guy does. And she is not pregnant. Jake left her in the dust the other day. Men with pregnant baby mamas are protective. Remember how he walked with Maggie when she was pregnant.

Anonymous said...

Engaged is not the same as marry.

Anonymous said...

"I think John Cohen hit it on the head when he said Jake's acting is mediocre. That is why he has no good projects. Not the gay rumors. If it were the rumors only, the bearding would have fixed it up. But it's easier to blame gay rumors than bad acting."

Yeah Jake is bad bad actor but you know what there is hope when you look at Pitt, Smith or Clooney , they have a career and even nominated for Oscars!

Anonymous said...

I bet after that biking session the boys took a shower together. In fact, I am willing to bet they shower together as often as possible.

Anonymous said...

It was not a pretty scene. Reese was packing away cosmos and chatting happily with just about anyone, but it was clear she was peeved about something.

The party took place in the rooftop penthouse suites of the Soho Grand Hotel, and what I saw next was something I decided not to print at the time. The couple went out on the roof terrace and had a knock-down, drag-out fight. It looked like something from "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?"

My line of vision was partially blocked by a big exhaust pipe, so at different times during the fight they were obscured. But then Ryan would appear, disgusted, on one side of it, and Reese on the other.

The look of the future

Actresses tend to hit their stride early, with tougher times after 40. For men, it's the opposite. In five years, Ryan could be a perennial best actor nominee.

But the early 30s — with the exception of Leonardo DiCaprio, thanks to "Titanic" — is the hunker-down time for most young
actors. They're too young for the good roles and too old for the teen ones.
(Oct.31, 2006)

Anonymous said...

"I bet after that biking session the boys took a shower together. In fact, I am willing to bet they shower together as often as possible."

Ewwww! Showering more than 3 times a week is gross!

Anonymous said...

No offense to OMG, but if that site isn't the clearest example of seeing what you want to see, I don't know what is.

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about 11:11 PM? There ARE new pictures of Jake and Austin :)

Anonymous said...

Just keep telling yourself that babbler. And why are you here, shouldn't you be back over at GB basking in that story about Reeke dancing at the Elle photo shoot.

Anonymous said...

Anyone read today's Ent Lawyer's "Your Turn" ? "Biggest Lie you ever told or were told", anon comments ok. Over 200 comments, most anons, some really good lies. Amazing.

Biggest Lie you ever told or were told

Anonymous said...

Snap Judgment

Jake Gyllenhaal Takes A Load Off

(picture of Jake)

jezebel.com

Anonymous said...

It's amazing that Jake's public life now consists almost entirely if staged photographs and planted rumors. He has not been seen in a movie since Oct 07, and he hasn't firmly secured a role since the Pop announcement last spring - almost a year ago! He really needs to hire new pr people or a new agent. They aren't doing their jobs.

Anonymous said...

(picture of Jake)

TMZ, Ent Lawyer, E! Online, jezebel.com ... are using the same Jake on the bike photo

Anonymous said...

Yeah Jake is bad bad actor but you know what there is hope when you look at Pitt, Smith or Clooney , they have a career and even nominated for Oscars!

March 06, 2009 10:00 PM


Sure, if Jake improves there is plenty of hope!

I don't think the human race is inherently stupid so the Elle article about Reeke dancing must be deliberate in it's dumbness.

Anonymous said...

Do you think Ted will say something about these new photos on Monday?

I am rather surprised that he has said nothing about it at all today even though the photos have made the rounds of all of the major site. Why do you think he's waiting?

Why do I have the feeling that this not quite the return to the good old days? Austin has been in hiding for almost two years and suddenly he appears.

Sometime is not right. I keeping thinking of those photos of Brad and Jen walking on the beach and everyone assumed that they were trying to recapture the "magic" of their marriage. Everybody thought things were back to normal, despite the rumors about Brad and Angelina.

Shortly after that they separated and divorce papers were filed.

I'm not saying that Jake has someone else, just that this too could be smoke and mirrors.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Jake is bad bad actor but you know what there is hope when you look at Pitt, Smith or Clooney , they have a career and even nominated for Oscars!

I don't think Jake is a bad actor, he's decent. I'd compare him with Pitt. And as I've said, I hope for Jake his career will be similar.

Anonymous said...

12.15 I don't know if anything is up but I'll wait till something happens to get my panties in a wad. Till then I'll just sit back and enjoy Jaustin :))

Anonymous said...

sitting back and enjoying Jaustin = no panties

Anonymous said...

You wonder why most sites don´t bother much and why most posts are having about 20 to 50 responses max?
It´s because everyone with half a brain knows now that Jake G. is and always was just one big PR-whore. Way bigger than Reese, even bigger than Brangelina, and all he mouthed over the last 4 years was calculated bs, including his beloved ambiguity.
He is one big fake, who was nice to look at.

Anonymous said...

And there are new players in town, much more interesting.
Just watch and read Ted and the rest of the gossips.
Kitsch, Pattinson, they are the it boys and will remain so for quite a while now.
For now Jake is over and it remains to be seen if he can make a comeback as flower of the season.

Anonymous said...

"Kitsch, Pattinson, they are the it boys and will remain so for quite a while now."

Yes they are the it-boys now - until another one will come out of the dust.

Becoming the it-boy is not so difficult -staying as an actor is.

I will wait until "Brothers" is out and then PoP - and then make a judgement. Since Jake and O´Russel seem to be happy perhaps we will even see "Nailed" on the big screen.

Anonymous said...

The reason for fewer comments is that there are not 1oo of them complaining about phoney reeke: they're positive for on on change.

Anonymous said...

You wonder why most sites don´t bother much and why most posts are having about 20 to 50 responses max? It´s because everyone with half a brain knows now that Jake G. is and always was just one big PR-whore.

Not true.
Public is interested in likeable, charismatic, entertaining ... PR whores.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Jakes PR team is reevaluating. Jakes star has certainly dulled since Rome. Maybe those horrible gay fans werent such a bad thing after all.
Sean Penn(Harvey Milk) and Dustin Black did win Oscars.


I wonder if Jake knows how to be himself. Those Medical visits must be to a therapist. The poor guy needs to be reminded once a week who the hell he is.

I have never seen sexual chemistry between Jake and a woman. Penelope looks at Jake like he might be her little brother. Same thing with Jen. Reese just looks like a pimple on his face.

Anonymous said...

I know this comes from Elle magazine which like Vogue is a reputable publication.

LOL, stop being so naive, entertaining magazines "make things more interesting" all the time.

"Ms Johansson has at no point granted UK Cosmopolitan an interview, and she has never discussed her personal relationships with the publication. The cover story is an obvious attempt by UK Cosmopolitan to gain monetarily by misinforming their readers. Ms Johansson ... is disappointed to see a seemingly reputable publication inexplicably publish a work of fiction at her expense."

Scarlett Johansson threatens to sue Cosmopolitan in dispute over quotes

Anonymous said...

Do you think Ted will say something about these new photos on Monday?

Yes, on Monday or next week. Maybe he took time to do some research :)

Anonymous said...

Jakes star has certainly dulled since Rome.

No wonder, Jake is hiding and doing dull photo ops with dull woman for two years.

Anonymous said...

Page Six

FINGERING FANATIC

IF Woody Allen ever needs a new pianist for his Dixieland band, he might want to call Dustin Hoffman, who quietly but feverishly has been studying jazz piano. "I promised myself that before I kick the bucket, I'd become a decent jazz player," Hoffman tells the new issue of Flaunt. "The guy I'm practicing with says he'll have me playing in a year." The Oscar winner is so serious about tickling the ivories, that "if God tapped me on the shoulder and offered me an ultimatum - acting or jazz piano - I'd make the decision in a New York minute."

Anonymous said...

May I remind everyone that Jake gave the world Jack Twist. You can say all you want about Ang pulling that performance out of him, if there was nothing there, that performance could not have happened.

There is also Donnie Darko, Moonlight Mile, etc. Jake can act.

I think some of you are so blinded by your anger that you have lost all sense of discernment and perspective.

That being said, I think the best think Jake can do for himself is to leave LA and move to some place like New York or London and surround himself with creative people who can inspire him.

I think he needs to dump the beard and the boyfriend and start over. No one, and I mean no one, in LA is doing him any good.

Anonymous said...

I love Dustin. :)

Believe me, I'll never forget Jake's Jack Twist.

Anonymous said...

"I have never seen sexual chemistry between Jake and a woman. Penelope looks at Jake like he might be her little brother. Same thing with Jen. Reese just looks like a pimple on his face."

ITA. Absolutely never! Jen seems to have a bemused "whatever" expression on her face, and I think Maggie is inclined in the same direction. Watch him on the Donnie Darko set, in production notes. He acts the clown when not "on" - seems to annoy people. Doesnt mean women friends arent fond of him. But sexual chemistry? - not!

Anonymous said...

I think some of you are so blinded by your anger that you have lost all sense of discernment and perspective.

Are, for example, Ent Lawyer and John Cohan blinded by the anger too?

Anonymous said...

^ don't you know that anyone who doesn't think Jake is the best thing to walk this Earth is blinded by anger, hate, etcetc? (sarcasm)

Some people don't like him or find him annoying, some think he’s boring, some think he's mediocre, so on. Deal with it.

prairiegirl said...

Anon @ 09:27, I admit I have never picked up an Elle in my whole life. I suppose I am naive in that I was under the impression that it was a serious fashion publication like Vogue. When that Vogue article came out, I made a silly comment about never seeing that magazine at the WalMart/Walgreens/Target checkout counter, only at Borders because it cost so darn much. And, boy, I was jumped on from overseas because Vogue was the most respected fashion magazine and I didn't know a thing about fashion. Admittedly so, I don't. And LOL, sure enough, I did see Vogue at a Wal Mart, so I had big egg on my face. I had to get back on OMG and issue a correction.

I still do not believe the dancing fic. It stinks to high heaven of just a lead in for their story. And I don't care if it's Reese & PR approved. Even Jake approved. That doesn't make it true. That would make it Reeke approved and there's the difference.

prairiegirl said...

Anyways, that's why I said that. When one buys their clothes @ Penny's & Wal Mart (yeah, I have, I admit it), there's no need for me to pick up an Elle. Ever.

I'll take the correction if my statement was naive or wrong, no problem there.

Anonymous said...

And I don't care if it's Reese & PR approved.

Duh! Why wouldn't PR approve it?!?
PR probably suggested it - a bit of cute Reeke fiction about "the couple", and Reese saying next to nothing, being "low profile about her relationship".

Anonymous said...

I am 10:53. I neither stated nor implied that "anyone who doesn't think Jake is the best thing to walk this Earth is blinded by anger, hate, etcetc? (sarcasm)."

I took issue with the blanket damnation of his acting ability which seems to be fueled by reaction to his personal life, not any kind of more objective analysis.

He's been good in some roles, better in others, and mediorce in others.

By the way, if some of you think so little of Jake and think that he has no positive qualities, why are you here?

Why waste anger on someone who's not worth it?

Anonymous said...

I think maybe he should leave LA too. All the really good actors seem to live outside of LA.

A permanant change of address, and people, might be just what Jake need to expand his creative horizons.

Anonymous said...

"I think he needs to dump the beard and the boyfriend and start over. No one, and I mean no one, in LA is doing him any good."

No matter where you move, you always take your problems with you.

Btw I live in LA, born and raised. I don't know what planet some of you are from but I guess you believe all the evil fiction you hear and read about it. LA is just another city, don't knock it til you try it.

Anonymous said...

IHJ gallery

Jake Publicity Stills - Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

Anonymous said...

Great body, but Jake looks much better with short hair.

Anonymous said...

FUCK! ! !

Anonymous said...

No offense to LA, but I do think the creative vibe, and people, are much different in New York. I think it would do Jake a world of good to immerse himself in it.

Anonymous said...

I like immersing myself in the ocean on a beautiful sunny LA day in the middle of February!

Anonymous said...

"Great body, but Jake looks much better with short hair."

Anonymous said...

12:51 PM, you think Jake looks better with PoP hair?

Anonymous said...

"I like immersing myself in the ocean on a beautiful sunny LA day in the middle of February!"

Honey who're you kidding? In all due respect, we all know the Pacific isn't terrific for swimming and the Atlantic IS romantic and beaches on Long Island and Martha's Vineyard are second to none.

Anonymous said...

As Mrs. Dorothy Parker once said of LA, "There's no there there."

Anonymous said...

whooops! sorry for double post. PoP's got me all wierd.

Anonymous said...

"As Mrs. Dorothy Parker once said of LA, "There's no there there."

That was Gertrude Stein said that, of Oakland, where she was born, but Oakland's pretty hot right now.

What's the difference between California and Yoghert?

(Yoghert's got a culture"

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Anonymous said...

In all due respect, we all know the Pacific isn't terrific for swimming and the Atlantic IS romantic and beaches on Long Island and Martha's Vineyard are second to none.

True, but the Pacific has it's own allure and magic. :)

Anonymous said...

Hey, stop pretending you aren't impressed!

Anonymous said...

"True, but the Pacific has it's own allure and magic. :)"

Tell! I'm all ears!

Anonymous said...

"Prince of Persia said...
Hey, stop pretending you aren't impressed!"


FUCK

Anonymous said...

""Prince of Persia said...
Hey, stop pretending you aren't impressed!"

C'mon back to mama, baby, all is forgiven.

Anonymous said...

"Los Angeles: Seventy-two suburbs in search of a city." - Dorothy Parker

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or does Jake look Gay as a goose in the POP pictures.

One thing that the Jake and Austin pics have proven is that Austin has been around the whole time. Many sites showed just Jake, even though Austin was less than 3 feet away. So no pics of them last months means nothing. Austin was probably nearby after all. There was a pic with Reeke where most WFT2ers and OMGers thought they saw Austin in the crowd. A jogging pic as well too. Now most likely it was him.

Anonymous said...

Is it just me or does Jake look Gay as a goose in the POP pictures.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

Anonymous said...

I agree with some of the other posters here, Jake needs to dump the boyfriend and the beard and concentrate his energies on creating a real sustainable career.

I think the people he surrounds himself with are stagnating him, not liberating.

I think he's got the goods (see Jack Twist), but he need to be around people who are going to inspire him. Those people are not in LA.

I sometimes wonder if he hasn't suffered from a kind of depression himself, just different from Heath's.

Anonymous said...

I think he's got the goods (see Jack Twist), but he need to be around people who are going to inspire him. Those people are not in LA.

I agree -

Anonymous said...

1:50 PM Jake is a famewhore and famewhores live in LA. I agree that he has surrounded himself with mediocre people.

Anonymous said...

""Los Angeles: Seventy-two suburbs in search of a city." - Dorothy Parker"

Yes, that was my response when I lived there briefly - like, WTF! - but I guess it has never claimed to be "a city".

Anonymous said...

The definition of urban sprawl out of control, is what I thought - although it does have its charm.

Anonymous said...

Brad and Angelina are famewhores. They don't live in LA.

But I do think he needs to get away from there, and get himself around some real quality people.

I realize this isn't probably the place to say this, but DAMN, I wish Heath was here for him to latch onto (I don't mean romantically, but as someone of his generation who was definately an artist with the talent to back up his choices). I just can't think of anyone in Jake's current circle who is the same age and the same calibar.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if there is a special place in hell for c-teasers and their handlers?

Anonymous said...

What cock-teasers?

Anonymous said...

Someone said Jake was a performer, not an artist. Maybe there is a difference.

Anonymous said...

Jake should move to NYC.

Anonymous said...

What's important is to have the good B.O. numbers. If PoP delivers, everything will be fine.

Anonymous said...

I think Heath as Ennis elevated Jake's performance as well, not just Ang. Jake did say it was the first time in his life he was alone. Everyone needs alone time to become an adult and figure out who you really are. He never finished the process.

Anonymous said...

Movie business isn't that simple.

Brendon Fraser - The Mummy was B.O. success.
George - Batman & Robin only returned invested money.

Anonymous said...

^^George broke into business very late. Had many crappy movies and performances in his filmography. Look where he is now. A couple of B.O. hits, a couple of acclaimed films et voila. Big movie star.

Anonymous said...

I realize this isn't probably the place to say this, but DAMN, I wish Heath was here for him to latch onto (I don't mean romantically, but as someone of his generation who was definately an artist with the talent to back up his choices). I just can't think of anyone in Jake's current circle who is the same age and the same calibar.

Some people here might not like it but this is the truth.

Bad comparison with Brad and Angelina. Famewhores on not, they are VERY famous. Outside of the internet, Jake is little known. He has to stay in LA if he wants to keep his name in the rags, and it’s easier to do the photo ops he so loves there.

Anonymous said...

A couple of B.O. hits, a couple of acclaimed films et voila. Big movie star.

True. The question is - what George did right or what George has that other equally good or better actors who didn't make it don't have?
Luck? Carisma? A lot of important fuck buddies?

Anonymous said...

Luck?

I think it's luck most of all. He's a mediocre to decent actor. That's about it.

Anonymous said...

^^He seems to be a good director though.

Anonymous said...

Ive got a theory. Why Clooney's career might be more solid, then, now and in the future.

I may be WAY OFF on this but wot the hell. . .

Jake doesnt want to be identified with H'wood gay community and says it is a "different world" from his own. Yet I don't expect he gets along that well with straight men.

A lesbian friend left lesbian commuity to marry a guy, said it ws a hard choice, as "you're never let back in again" this may be true only where I live, and then rather than now, but I can imagine Jake's career trajectory to be more complicated than I understand.

Anonymous said...

Jake isn't as savvy or as charismatic as George Clooney.

Anonymous said...

I think Clooney isn't so afraid of gay rumors as Jake seems to be. Many heard about the gay rumors regarding George, but I still know many straight guys who like him, find him funny.

Like when asked who's kids he likes better, Brad's or Matt's (Matt was sitting next to him), he said Brad's "because they are nicer". LOL. In comparison with other actors, you actually laugh about his jokes every now and then. ;)

Anonymous said...

Jake doesnt want to be identified with H'wood gay community and says it is a "different world" from his own.

You need to explain this. What H'wood gay community?

Anonymous said...

It took George a while to get to where he is. He didn't start out savvy or charismatic.

I don't know what goes on in Jake's life, but something serious must have prompted the bearding.

If indeed the gay rumours were beginning to have an adverse impact on his career, I am not sure what the correct way would have beeb to handle that.

It's too easy to just say ignore it if it's the reason people are telling you that things are going wrong. Please don't tell me his gay fan or regular fan base would have supported him. There aren't enough of us. No actor can rely on a fan base. Fans are fickle. You have to be able to draw a larger audience.

I wish at an earlier point that he moved to New York. Getting away from the people in LA may have given him a different pespective and a better to handle the issue.


And he would have been closer to Heath (heh).

Anonymous said...

I just think Witherspoon is not good for him beard or gf or whatever. She kinda drags him down.

Anonymous said...

Yesterday I was ballyhooed by someone for suggesting Jake and Austin pictures garnering buzz were perhaps deliberatly done on the "eve of PoP promo", that the build up was going to start any time and the gays and friends needed to be back onboard.

This individual told me that it was "a year away!".

And oh well now, look, suddenly promo stills appear with Jake semi-nude for...PoP.

Anonymous said...

Correct me, but aren't ipods made for 1 person (or 2 if you have another plug) and they use earplugs? Can an ipod project sound thru a room like it has powerful speakers? Sorry i'm not into music, don't own one.

Why would anyone correct you?

You're the nearest to probable truth anyone's come up with, without even sounding subjective.

Good call. Of course the Elle story defies the laws of physics and is yet another technically unsound dumbed down pile.

Anonymous said...

Do you think Ted will say something about these new photos on Monday?

Dear Photo Genie,

Pictures speak louder than words ever could.

Anonymous said...

He's attractive as PoP, but he could have waited for a better franchise. I mean I know he badly wanted one, but PoP? IDK.

Anonymous said...

Check out the ONTD comments on the POP stills post. OUCH!

Anonymous said...

It's not THAT bad.

ONTD PoP stills

Anonymous said...

First Official Publicity Stills from Prince of Persia

ONTD

Anonymous said...

It's not THAT bad.

Really? Have you read all of them?

Anonymous said...

OK, comments could be better.

Anonymous said...

They're the usual mix of ONTD fuggability and OMG icon love!

Anonymous said...

Okay, I'm shallow. I have NO idea what this Prince of Persia video game is nor do I really care but Jake's body in those shots make me quiver!!! YUM! YUM!!! Shoot me.

Anonymous said...

t took George a while to get to where he is. He didn't start out savvy or charismatic."

I disagree with you there. He always was BUT he didn't start off at the top. He worked his way up. The thing that separates Clooney from Jake apart from the 20-year age difference is Clooney's intelligence. Clooney is VERY sharp and VERY media savvy. He also knows he's not the world's best actor but he knows on how to capitalize on the strengths that he has and he has a good eye for picking very good projects. Clooney would be a great mentor for Jake.

Anonymous said...

Correct me, but aren't ipods made for 1 person (or 2 if you have another plug) and they use earplugs?

You're wrong. iPods plug into stereos and boom boxes too.

Anonymous said...

Give us a break, that Elle PR fiction is ridiculous.

Anonymous said...

Publicity Stills from Prince of Persia ... In which our hero is an offbeat young outcast who is GOING TO HIS ROOM to write some confessional poetry because the King and Queen of Persia don't understand him, NOBODY UNDERSTANDS HIM.

Anonymous said...

I agree with 3:54 PM.

Anonymous said...

Clooney would be a great mentor for Jake.

Anyone has George's number?

Anonymous said...

You're wrong. iPods plug into stereos and boom boxes too.

A little tricky to manoeuvre (sic?) when dancing and with no Elle word of Jake bringing a big stereo or boom box into the room well, if Elle didn't report it he can't have, can he!

Anonymous said...

"You need to explain this. What H'wood gay community?"

Ask Jake to explain what he meant on Jonathan Ross show - I havent a clue.

Anonymous said...

Jake didn't mention H'wood gay community on Jonathan Ross show.

Anonymous said...

"scratches head" - he spoke of gay world being very diff' from his own - dont feel like watching it again. I hated this bloody interview. somebody correct me if I misunderstood.

Anonymous said...

Are you talking about this?

ROSS: Before you go, let me ask you a question on behalf of many of the ladies in the audience perhaps the band as well here? Are you a single man?
GYLLENHAAL: On behalf of which, the band or the ladies?
ROSS: With your career, does it matter Jake?
GYLLENHAAL: At this point, yes. On behalf of the ladies, I'm single. On behalf of the band, i'm not.

Anonymous said...

George is almost always genial, and speaks openly, expresses his personality and opinions. It seemed like Jake would be like this too, but he became too cautious, started censoring his words to fit in, bearding and has no personality left. You cant be a star with no personality.

Anonymous said...

"these look like stills from gay porn" - the most recent ONTD comment.

Anonymous said...

Jake Gyllenhaal: Prince of Persia Buff

A shirtless Jake Gyllenhaal shows off his buff body in these new stills from the upcoming fantasy adventure, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time.

“I over-prepared myself because I never knew how much they were going to ask me to do, so I just made sure I’d be hopefully able to do anything,” Jake has said of his new physique. “I guess I’ve gotten buff. There’s a lot acrobatics in the movie — a lot of running up walls, and jumping on things and Parkour, so it requires muscularity, but it requires a lot of aerobic ability too.”

Prince of Persia: Sands of Time opens in 2010.

Photos: iheartjake

Just Jared

Anonymous said...

"Are you talking about this?"

No, Im not talking about this. He said, and Im pretty sure it was during this interview, that the gay world was a very diff'rent world from his own.

Anonymous said...

Never heard of it.

Florida Tom said...

Are you talking about this?

ROSS: Before you go, let me ask you a question on behalf of many of the ladies in the audience perhaps the band as well here? Are you a single man?
GYLLENHAAL: On behalf of which, the band or the ladies?
ROSS: With your career, does it matter Jake?
GYLLENHAAL: At this point, yes. On behalf of the ladies, I'm single. On behalf of the band, i'm not.


God that could be read in so many different ways and have several different meanings.

Anonymous said...

Photos: iheartjake

IHJ is an official photo source?

Florida Tom said...

That interview with Ross was for Rendition promotion and before Rome. reeke was supposed to have been in full bloom before Rendition premiered.

Florida Tom said...

Jake has said that he grew up in a world were the gay community played a huge part in his life. In that interview he said he had gay godfathers. What he pretty much implied was that he has not ever had sex with a man and could not be persuaded to. In so many words. Kind of like Tedspeak but Jakespeak.

Anonymous said...

Yes, that was "straight" Jakespeak.

Anonymous said...

"Straight" Jakespeak. a chill ran down my spine during that interview. it made me ill. I thot: the fucker's been had.

and I still think so.

if he didnt say in that interview that the gay world was a diff'rent world fron his own, then where did he say it?

I was sure it was in this interview.

Anonymous said...

"I was sure it was in this interview."

Don't worry , you re not crazy, I remember that too

Anonymous said...

GYLLENHAAL: On behalf of which, the [male] band or the ladies?
ROSS: With your career, does it matter Jake?
GYLLENHAAL: At this point, yes.


I didn't change my mind - I still think Jake hinted he's gay.

Anonymous said...

"I didn't change my mind - I still think Jake hinted he's gay."

Absofuckinglutely! It was hair-raising to see him look sheepish, give in, and give out the PR drivel.

I wanted to scream at him: YOU FUCKING CUNT WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

Just sayin'

I still feel that sadness.

Anonymous said...

"Don't worry , you re not crazy, I remember that too"

thanks. one does worry in this crazy ass world about one's own sanity.

Anonymous said...

Shit, now I worry because I don't remember it. Are you sure it was a video/TV interview?

Anonymous said...

"I think he's got the goods (see Jack Twist), but he need to be around people who are going to inspire him. Those people are not in LA.'

Hahha, besides being in Canada for filming, where in hell do you think Jake was living before, during and after BBM?!

Anonymous said...

"Hahha, besides being in Canada for filming, where in hell do you think Jake was living before, during and after BBM?!

He was spending summers in the northeast, on the Vineyard; he attended Columbia; his mom is very connected to northeast, via her husband number one, sensibility, and so forth -

He's got a conservative streak, maybe rebelling against radical hip parents - and early experiences among the H'wood private school brats -

my own kid turned very conservative.

Anonymous said...

Oh I hate you Jake in yr low hanging trousers, either put out or get out of my life.

And Im not kidding.

Anonymous said...

Wanna lick my cum gutter?

Anonymous said...

either put out or get out of my life

Just for you!

Anonymous said...

Let's hope for Jake PoP won't suck and that he'll pick better projects in future.

Anonymous said...

Just for you!

Don't just stop now!

Anonymous said...

dontstopnow

Anonymous said...

OMG! *blushing*

Anonymous said...

dontstopdontstopdontyoueverstop

Anonymous said...

Was she the luckiest actress in Jake's filmography or what.

Anonymous said...

dontstopdontstopdontyoueverstop

The chick spoiled the magic. lol

Anonymous said...

I never noticed the Led Zeppelin poster on the wall - reminds me of my high school days. lol

Anonymous said...

Was she the luckiest actress in Jake's filmography or what.

The most frustrated is more likely.

Anonymous said...

Funny how there's no interviews or questions with her about that scene. Was probably in her contract never to talk about Jake doing the scene, what his mood was (squeamish?) or what *didn't* happen if you know what I mean (or if it did and she was the Cocaine BV later, who knows)

Anonymous said...

GYLLENHAAL: At this point, yes. On behalf of the ladies, I'm single. On behalf of the band, i'm not.

He says he's bisexual.

Anonymous said...

Nah.

Anonymous said...

Why does he need to listen to the iPod, when the general is leading?

Anonymous said...

... or what *didn't* happen if you know what I mean

Ah, but cocks have a mind of their own and enjoy friction.

Anonymous said...

"GYLLENHAAL: At this point, yes. On behalf of the ladies, I'm single. On behalf of the band, i'm not.

He says he's bisexual."

IA, and he's saying he's involved with a man.

Anonymous said...

Does he have a c*ck-extension in the shower scene? Usually it looks smaller under his jeans, I mean it's not there. :)

Anonymous said...

Ok, this is getting serious:
how does one save animated gifs?

Anonymous said...

Like any other JPG picture - right click and Save picture as...

Anonymous said...

how does one make animated gifs into a bedsheet?

Anonymous said...

We are working on that!

Anonymous said...

"Usually it looks smaller under his jeans, I mean it's not there."

He tucks it into his socks. Now you know why he he has to wear long and baggy jeans. You ask about the spandex bike shorts? Ever wonder why his waist looks thicker with those?

Anonymous said...

LMAO!

Anonymous said...

"We are working on that!"

Glad to hear. But bedsheets are so passe. Turning gifs into 3D, now that's more important. Work on that instead!

Anonymous said...

OK I watched the JR interview and he does not mention that the gay community is not his world - but where and when did he say this? Hmmm. . . surely someone can link to this comment?

Anonymous said...

Maybe "I live in a different world" from the Telegraph interview?

Aggression is a part of me

Anonymous said...

Yes, but it isn't animated anymore after saving.
So what should I open it with, to look animated?

Anonymous said...

he tucks it into his socks

Third leg?

Anonymous said...

Make sure you saved it as a gif, not a jpeg. Open it up in window pictire and fax viewer. (if you have windows).

Anonymous said...

Yes, but it isn't animated anymore after saving.
So what should I open it with, to look animated?


Open it with Internet Explorer or some other browser: right click - Open With... choose Internet Explorer or Firefox for example

Anonymous said...

Hips and PoP bulge

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