Monday 13 February 2012

Gay Sex Is The Last Hollywood Taboo?

When Ellen DeGeneres came out of the closet as the first openly gay sitcom star in 1997—and her fictional self followed suit—a parade of gay characters came after her. There was Will & Grace, and Carrie Bradshaw’s Sex and the City sidekick, Stanford. In movies, the gay best friend became a staple, from My Best Friend’s Wedding to Mean Girls. Yet none of these characters do what gay men do. As Hollywood portrays it, the homosexual man is, astonishingly, sexless.

The film’s screenwriter, Dustin Lance Black, who won an Oscar for his Milk screenplay, says that a love scene would have been too revisionist historically. "I certainly didn’t want to see J. Edgar doing it," says Black, who is gay. "In the 1930s, oftentimes, a loving relationship with gay men was never consummated."

Max Mutchnick, the co-creator of Will & Grace, remembers attending a party the night before the show’s pilot was filmed. Mutchnick recalls being told by (the also gay) director Joel Schumacher: "Whatever you do, don’t make it too butt-fucky. Don’t let anyone in the audience think about butt fucking and you’ll be fine."

Mutchnick continues, "The sad reality is, if you’re in a theater and they show gay sex, someone in the audience will shout, ‘Ewww!’"

That’s the crux of it. Studio executives aren’t necessarily homophobic, but the film business is in a financial slump and averse to risks even in the best times. Though gay marriage is now more accepted across the United States, the industry is driven by tickets sold to straight men. That’s why lesbian sex gets a pass: when Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis spend a steamy night together in Black Swan, it helps sell tickets. There’s no similar financial bump attached to gay male intercourse. As one producer noted, anal sex is still considered something out of the ordinary, anyway. In The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo, the anal sex scene is part of a rape between a man and woman—existing as a symbol of sexual sadism.

I emailed our film critic David Ansen, the artistic director of the Los Angeles Film Festival, to ask whether there was gay sex I had overlooked in any recent movies. He wrote back: "There were actually movies this year with gay sex but really nobody saw them because they only played film festivals, like the very sexy Christopher and His Kind, which was made for Brit TV, and the still unreleased Leave It on the Floor, a musical with an all-black cast about the voguing world. Or James Franco’s experimental student film about Hart Crane, which has very explicit gay sex in it. The movies with gay sex tend to be ghettoized as gay films and not seen by crossover audiences."

When you ask gay screenwriters and directors to name the most explicit gay sex scene in a mainstream film, they often gulp in silence. Then they name 2005’s Brokeback Mountain. But that tent scene between Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger is still relatively tame. "I don’t think I would say Brokeback Mountain, because it’s not that explicit," says B. Ruby Rich, the film professor at UC Santa Cruz who coined the phrase New Queer Cinema. "We’re in the post–Brokeback Mountain moment. Even a film like Gus Van Sant’s Milk is astonishingly chaste. The actual life of Harvey Milk was drastically different than that, given it was the ’70s in San Francisco and men were fucking in every doorway."

Real societal change is always the product of the stories we see. In 1967, Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner made interracial marriage normal just months after the Supreme Court ruled that anti-miscegenation laws were unconstitutional. That’s why there’s more at stake in this gay-sex debate than just the titillation. If Hollywood refuses to push boundaries, to make more people comfortable with something that a segment of America is still uncomfortable with, gay people remain second-class citizens. "Here’s my thing with gay sex," Dustin Lance Black says. "In terms of sex, we get plenty of that every day in our own lives and thrown on the Internet. I feel like what I’m really interested in is gay romance." And that’s the real problem with no gay sex. You can’t tell a real love story if nobody is doing it.

Source:  Why Does Hollywood Hate Gay Sex? by Ramin Setoodeh

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Anonymous said...

I don't need to look it up - I remember that discussion and trolls making up that shit by twisting Ted's words.

Anonymous said...

Dear Ted:
Are Reese and Jake playing you? You report a close Reese source tells you she and Ryan may be getting back together, and the next day there is a report she is in Martha's Vineyard with Jake! What's the real deal?
Lynn
Morgantown, West Virginia

Dear Reese's Pieces:
"Deal" being the key word.
***

YES IS TRUE

Anonymous said...

What is true?!? What are you talking about?

Anonymous said...

That Ted in that days said that Reese and Ryan wanted to back together:)

Anonymous said...

Please post where Ted said that.

Anonymous said...

I have just done it, and I have picked it up from this blog

another

Dear Ted:
You are so right on Rose McGowan and Robert Rodriguez. However, you are so not right on Reese and Ryan getting back together. I think Jake still has a chance, though. Also, I saw you on Chelsea Lately...why so mum on Tori Spelling?
Annei
Brooklyn

Dear Brooklyn Bouillabaisse:
First, never said R 'n' R getting back, fer sure, just said they were both trying to see about another chance, nothing def (doesn’t look good, obvs). No comment on Jake. And Tori? Yeah, I like her. So, slap me.

Anonymous said...

What "the chin and Ryan are going back together" has to do with anything?
Only troll would use that shit to prove how Ted doesn't know anything.

Anonymous said...

I have just done it, and I have picked it up from this blog

Did you read it?

Ted is proving you wrong.

Anonymous said...

Don't play stupid,
Ted doesn't know anything, you don't have to be a troll to understand it, all it takes is being leastly intelligent, he also said that the Showmance would have remained standing 6 months, instead, true or false, they has been togethe ralmost three years

Anonymous said...

I have just done it, and I have picked it up from this blog

Did you read it?

Ted is proving you wrong.

But what are you tolking about? WFT, has a complete and exhaustive file of everything Ted has said on TT, what I have brought they are words gone out of the sweet mouth of ted through his magic computer:)

Anonymous said...

Dear Ted:
I threw up when I saw Jake with Reese.
Jeremy
Chandler, Arizona

Dear Smelly Keyboard:
Then I suggest you stop reading the rags for the upcoming six-month period (max)—unless you want to ruin hundreds of thousands of dollars' worth of equipment.

JUICY said...

Paul Southall ‏ @1LPaul
Just read a rumour blog about Jake Gyllenhaal and James Franco having an affair. Mega Schwing

Anonymous said...

10:56 AM - Trolly, is that you?

Still a sore loser?

Good! LOL!

Anonymous said...

Just read a rumour blog about Jake Gyllenhaal and James Franco having an affair.

YES, PLEASE! :)

Is James in New York, too?

Anonymous said...

10:56 AM - Trolly, is that you?

Still a sore loser?

Good! LOL

LOL, yes i'm a perfidious troll with magic powers, like can to read and to remember when someone says lies.

Anonymous said...

I think that James was in NY last week or two weeks ago I'm not sure, that would be grandiose however.

Anonymous said...

Paul Southall ‏ @1LPaul
Just read a rumour blog about Jake Gyllenhaal and James Franco having an affair


Damn Paul, how hard is to post a link?

Anonymous said...

Jake and James together is almost too hot for words.

Austin said...

Bitch!

Anonymous said...

Sorry Austin, look for someone in your new job,or fight for your man ,and suits as Spiderman I am sure that James will be impressed:)

Anonymous said...

OMGers just can't get a break - they were estatic when Ted announced new Toothy Tile blind vice, and now they heads are exploding!!! lol

Anonymous said...

P.S. Not too mention Jake not being with his "husband" for more than a month!

Anonymous said...

You are wrong, in reality Austin is incognito in NY, it manages a cheap place massages in Chinatown.

Anonymous said...

Preparing for his new role? :)

Anonymous said...

obviously, and also learning a new work in case doesn't find another role:)

#Psych yesterday said...

Shawn: ...like my screenplay. Gus: They've already made two bubble movies. Shawn: Yeah, but mine's going to star Jake Gylenhaal.

Jake said...

One of my classic movies!

Anonymous said...

BTW, the fact that Ted speaks again of TT, is for me a sign that Jake is returning to be hot material.

Anonymous said...

No idea what to expect from Ted tomorrow...

Anonymous said...

If it is as that history of Jake in the alley that has told the last time, it is also the last time that I read what he writes.

Anonymous said...

Fingers crossed that Ted will write about Jake & James!!!

Anonymous said...

I don't think so, for they are both-bottom

Anonymous said...

* for Ted*

Real M said...

No idea what to expect from Ted tomorrow...

The bombshell will be staring you in the face

Anonymous said...

What? LOL :)

Anonymous said...

The bombshell will be staring you in the face

Really??????
Ted will finally admit that there is no BT and Jake and Austin broke up!?!?!
Can't wait!

Anonymous said...

Scared Straight
March 21, 2012
Posted at 5:46 PM
Posted by Lainey

Blind Riddles
Both are acclaimed actors. One’s an actor you find super cute. He’s popular and adorable, like dimples and old fashioned dresses. The other’s an actor I find super gross. And dramatic. And full of his own sh-t. He fronts like he’s dark. He’s difficult. The work is often beneath him. The work is often taken away from him because the attitude that it is beneath him is so often intolerable The two had a torrid affair. Which is nothing unusual, of course not. Except that dimples broke up with drama and drama practically had a psychotic break. There was a month-long spiral. A couple of times he came close to really hurting himself. He also threatened to expose them both, though no one is taking that seriously. As a result, his heartbreaker is trying, ignorantly, to go back to the other side of his bisexuality.

Anonymous said...

JGL and Michael Pitt?

Anonymous said...

This is the blog to which referred the tweet of that guy this morning, many have thought that they were Jake and Franco, but is Lainey therefore I go for Pitt and JGL.

Anonymous said...

One’s an actor you find super cute. He’s popular and adorable...

That can't be JGL.

Anonymous said...

Dimples is definitely Jake and his drama boyfriend is James who's absolutely not a bottom. Too bad it had to end like that. So much potential, but instead Jake is now running scared and will probably not date men for a while.

Anonymous said...

Yes is him, I have recognized him from "dimples and old fashioned dresses"

Anonymous said...

Anya Georgijevic ‏ @imtheitgirl
Jake Gyllenhaal and James Franco. RT @styleblogca I wonder if this http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/23026/Scared-Straight-blind-riddle is JGL and Michael Pitt... cc. @laineygossip
1h ago

Anonymous said...

This is the blog to which referred the tweet of that guy this morning

You are presuming that, right?
Because that guy didn't say anything about the blog.

http://twitter.com/#!/1LPaul

Anonymous said...

Vi-LesterBallerino ‏ @BloodlessMary
http://www.laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/23026/Scared-Straight-blind-riddle mi sembra ovvio nella mia testa sono Jake Gyllenhaal e James Franco. #blinditem #megliocontinuareastudiare
1h ago

Translated: It seems obvious in my head are Jake Gyllenhaal and James Franco

Anonymous said...

Diane ‏ @dipod
OMG loving the blind item that could be Jake Gyllenhaal and James Franco having an affair then Franco having a breakdown. #fapfapfapfap
2m ago

Anonymous said...

no guys, would like so much, but is not Jake, you know all what L thinks of Jake" and as she speaks of it, is not him.

Anonymous said...

So could this be the TT story Ted was referring to?

$$$ said...

no guys, would like so much, but is not Jake, you know all what L thinks of Jake" and as she speaks of it, is not him.

Of course she's writing about straight Jake Gyllenhaal - just like Ted who writes about Jake having lunches with hot girls.

Anonymous said...

boys listen to me and make a simple search on google JGJ, dimples or old fashioned dresses,Jake dresses Ferragamo and custom suits no old fashioned dresses.

Anonymous said...

JGJ is short, fugly and annoying.

Anonymous said...

No L has always sustained and declared that Jake was heterosexual and you knows it.

L has always sustained and declared that Jake was heterosexual and you knows him/it to you. Plus despite L declare that Jake is absolutely heterosexual, she speaks bad of him.

Anonymous said...

So could this be the TT story Ted was referring to?

Would love that, but don't think so.

Anonymous said...

I think it's him. We know Lainey has a soft spot for Jake and she's familiar with the rumors. I believe she's come to the conclusion that he's bisexual.

Anonymous said...

L has always sustained and declared that Jake was heterosexual

Yes, she did.
Just like Ted Casablanca.

They don't have much choice - outing A or B-list stars is very bad for their business.

Anonymous said...

boys you know that she has always denied, and she has always declared that was false, she could pretend of nothing butshe has always said that it was a lie.

Anonymous said...

5:29 PM - please stop trolling.

Anonymous said...

I'm not trolling I am seeking the truth,That it Obviously doesn't Like You

Anonymous said...

5:34 PM - Why don't you comment answers you got if you "seek the truth"?

Because you don't like them?

Anonymous said...

Lainey said "He’s popular and adorable, like dimples and old fashioned dresses". I don't think she meant that to be taken literally. She was saying that that's the vibe you get from him. I'm leaning towards Jake and James. Could be JGL but I put my money on Jake.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Franco. Who knew. That must have been a wild ride. Wonder where and how they met.

Anonymous said...

I try there but you are not interested to the truth. because you don't answer me? does jake dress old fashioned or Ferragamo and custom suits? How does JGJ dress instead? Does JGJ have the dimples? L speaks very well of JGJ, and badly of Jake here is an example:

January 5, 2011
Posted at 8:32 AM
Posted by Lainey
Tags:
Break Ups
Jake Gyllenhaal
Taylor Swift
Both People and Us Weekly reported late yesterday that Taylor Swift and Jake Gyllenhaal are over, that it ended before Christmas. In other words, he pulled a cut and run. Which makes it worse than a publicity stunt.

Jakey cut and ran because he was put off by the attention, by how quickly we/they encroached, by how much heat his hookup with Swifty suddenly attracted. So. He bailed. Because he was embarrassed. Because he has no balls. Because he’s totally Blaine from Pretty in Pink (second reference of the day, huzzah!) and all the gossips in the world represent James Spader and that, my friends, will be the title of Taylor Swift’s song for Jake: What About Prom?!

I called you three times and left messages.
I waited for you in the parking lot.
What about prom, Blaine.
No, what about prom.
What. About. PROM!!!
I wanna hear you say it.
You’re ashamed to be seen with me!

You know, Jake has never been on my Freebie Five. I always, always put it off, no matter how hot, even after that cute as f-ck Russian video. Maybe quiver can smell weakness subconsciously.

Anonymous said...

Another question, when Franco has stopped working, he is untiring, a project after the other, the university, the directing the painting, the documentary on General Hospital, and thousand other projects, how many times here we have say jake should work more should make as Franco

Anonymous said...

It's awfully quiet over at OMG. I bet they're fuming over those rumors. Jake's such a bad, bad boy. Cheating on adoring hubby Austin with JF the drama queen. LOL!

Anonymous said...

I try there but you are not interested to the truth. because you don't answer me? does jake dress old fashioned or Ferragamo and custom suits?

What are you talkingh about?!?
You didn't notice that Jake wears old, simple and cheap clothes ALL the time?

Anonymous said...

does jake dress old fashioned

She didn't say that, she's not talking about his clothes - she said that guy is "popular and adorable, like dimples and old fashioned dresses".

Anonymous said...

It's awfully quiet over at OMG. I bet they're fuming over those rumors.

DUH!!! :)

Anonymous said...

No Jake in the occasions important dress custom suits Ferragamo, while sHE report to a precise style that is exactly that of JGL, can you make a simple search on JGL and his style or his dimples?

Anonymous said...

she said that guy is "popular and adorable, like dimples and old fashioned dresses".

DHU!it is obviously a suggestion

Anonymous said...

You are saying that Lainey is suggesting that JGL is a cross dresser?

Anonymous said...

I don't know what it means cross dresser

Anonymous said...

Men who like wearing women's clothing.

Dresses are women's clothing.

Anonymous said...

As a result, his heartbreaker is trying, ignorantly, to go back to the other side of his bisexuality.ˇ"

What is she saying? What dating women has to do with dumping someone?

Anonymous said...

no she doesn't say this, rather she says that he has a precise style and it refers to the film 500 days together with Zoe D

Anonymous said...

he’s dark. He’s difficult. The work is often beneath him. The work is often taken away from him because the attitude that it is beneath him is so often intolerable

When has Franco done this? he is one of the busiest actors in HW

Anonymous said...

no she doesn't say this, rather she says that he has a precise style

Sorry, you are wrong, your English is not good enough.

Anonymous said...

The work is often taken away from him because the attitude that it is beneath him is so often intolerable

Only Oscars with Anne ...

Anonymous said...

come on guys my English is not good enough, and this is true, but these two are not Jake and Franco and you know it , but you know what since I like the couple I pretend to believe :)

Anonymous said...

How could we know that she isn't talking about Jake and Franco?

Anonymous said...

Because we know well both and we know that the descriptions don't adapt to them we know what L thinks of Jake, we almost know every move of Jake and we know how Franco wos not in the game

Anonymous said...

Assuming it's Jake and James she's talking about, I wonder just how psychotic Franco went? Jake's been hanging a lot with Lea as of late. That fits pretty well with the scared straight part.

Anonymous said...

A couple of times he came close to really hurting himself. He also threatened to expose them both, though no one is taking that seriously

If she knows the rumors on Jake and Franco why he would never have had to be taken seriously? Sorry but if I really wont belive for me they are not J&Jbut if I am wrong I am ready to admit it ion my knee and to celebrate with the champage! :)

Anonymous said...

Because we know well both and we know that the descriptions don't adapt to them...

6:55 PM - that is just your wishful thinking.

Anonymous said...

Assuming it's Jake and James she's talking about, I wonder just how psychotic Franco went? Jake's been hanging a lot with Lea as of late. That fits pretty well with the scared straight part.

Franco is at least two years that he uninterruptedly works, and if Jake and James had been togetheralso just as "friends", someone would have noticed them, TMZ, for example, however how much I would like .

Anonymous said...

Hey, now we can blame James for scaring Jake even deeper into the closet. ;-)

Anonymous said...

6:55 PM - that is just your wishful thinking.

Oh please, I would be happy as an Easter if it were true, but I analyze everything and all, by now you know me, stop to isolate a sentencet to ignore the whole discourse,

Anonymous said...

She said at the end of her live blog yesterday wasn't Jake she was talking about so I guess the majority of guesses were him. If it was him and people guessed right, I think she wouldn't mention his name.

Anonymous said...

She said at the end of her live blog yesterday wasn't Jake she was talking about so I guess the majority of guesses were him. If it was him and people guessed right, I think she wouldn't mention his name

I knewit, too bad however, believe me or not thi stwo are my couple of dreams.

Anonymous said...

by now you know me, stop to isolate a sentencet to ignore the whole discourse

You are asking people to ignore your errors and pretend that you are right? Good luck with that!

Anonymous said...

She said at the end of her live blog yesterday wasn't Jake she was talking about

Link, please.

Anonymous said...

http://laineygossip.com/Articles/Details/23030/Weekly-Live-Blog-March-21--2012

Lainey: And on that note, Jake Gyllenhaal has nothing to do with today's blind. Bye! thanks for joining us!

Scroll right to the end of the live blog

Anonymous said...

Thanks!

Jake's PR called her?

LOL! said...

Seymour Butts ‏ @Bravetoaster757
id marry maggie gyllenhaal just to be jake's brother in law.

Anonymous said...

Oh no!

Jake's life is so boring and now exciting blind item isn't about him! lol

Peter said...

id marry maggie gyllenhaal just to be jake's brother in law

Too late!

Anonymous said...

Hey Seymour, Never play a ping pong game with Jake and if you do it, hide your car!

Anonymous said...

OMG, please don't give me anything else to swoon over JGL for. I don't know that I'd describe Jake as super cute.

Anonymous said...

JGL? You are welcome to keep that fugly jerk.

Anonymous said...

I'm w/ you 9:03 PM JGL is beautiful and hot in not conventional way, and a great actor.

Anonymous said...

Fugly? You must be crazy. He's adorable. And he's got dimples. Lainey's description didn't make me think of Jake.

Anonymous said...

Yes, JGL's hotter and more talented than most HW actors any day of the week. There's just something about him. Plus he's been cute for ages.

Anonymous said...

If they had made a movie about Heath Ledger a few years ago, JGL would have been the obvious choice. Same eyes.

Anonymous said...

Please, you're killin' me here! ;)

Anonymous said...

9:07 PM - Yuck, you have terrible taste in men.

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Anonymous said...

Waht are you talking about?

Anonymous said...

OMGers are pissed off with WFT2 comments. Crazy people :)

Anonymous said...

JGL is bisexual? The sexual man of my dreams on top of everything else - cute face, smiley eyes, dimples, wiry body, high energy, and talent. Swooooon!

Anonymous said...

It's really the best news I've had all day.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, I find him disgusting.

Anonymous said...

I think that, he is intense hot and talented.

Anonymous said...

It's really the best news I've had all day.

There can't be news about JGL because blind item isn't solved.

Anonymous said...

I keep on thinking JGL and Michael Pitt.

Anonymous said...

9:07 PM - Yuck, you have terrible taste in men.

Oops it's getting late. Don't you have homework to do young lady?

Anonymous said...

How on Earth would anyone recognise Michael Pitt from few sentences?

Anonymous said...

I have heard to speak of him to these terms.

Anonymous said...

Well, we'll never find out if you are right.

Anonymous said...

I'm not familiar with Michael Pitt - who else is considered a difficult actor in Hollywood?

Hollywood said...

ALL of them!

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