Wednesday, 24 June 2009
I Dish, Therefore I Am
On March 10, 2005, gossip columnist Ted Casablanca ran an item online under the heading "One Adorable Blind Vice".
The story was similar to numerous blind items Casablanca has run since bringing his column, "The Awful Truth," to E! Online in 1996. He relates a potentially scandalous story, usually with the kinds of revelations a major media gossip columnist would avoid, but disguises the object of his gossip behind a fanciful name like Morgan Mayhem, Furrowed Frank or Toothy Tile.
The ongoing saga of Toothy Tile says a good deal about Internet gossip, its place within the gay community and its function as a moral compass. It also points to some interesting intersections of gossip and gendered performance.
Hollywood gossip, of course, was around long before the Internet. Usually dated from the start of Louella Parsons' syndicated column in 1925, the field has traditionally been female-dominated, with Parsons and her chief rival, Hedda Hopper, engaged in an often-uneasy power struggle with the movie industry. The film studios used them to promote their films and personalities but also dreaded the effect of a personal attack or untimely revelation. One unwritten rule, however, was that the most damaging items — criminal arrests, long-term affairs and homosexuality — were not for publication in any but the least reputable venues. Parsons, Hopper and most of Hollywood may have known that Ramon Novarro was gay, but they weren't about to publish the fact. And if a writer broke the rules — as Bill Robinson did when he wrote about Spencer Tracy's drinking problems and his relationship with Katharine Hepburn in a 1962 issue of Look — the offender was cut off from industry sources.
Even with the decline of the studio system, some restrictions still hold. Unless a star's drug use is impossible for the media to ignore, it's kept out of the gossip columns. And "outing" is still considered off-limits, at least to columnists working in the major media.
For the gay on-line community, gossip serves a variety of purposes. If nothing else, it provides its readers with a sense of titillation as they vicariously enjoy celebrities' lives, even when the object of interest is masked behind the veil of the blind item. Like many on-line discussion boards, gay gossip sites provide their geographically dispersed users with a sense of community.
One element unifying gossip communities is a shared sense of morality. Gay gossip unites the gay and lesbian community by establishing behavioral norms for that community, creating insiders aware of those norms and outsiders unaware of or opposed to them.
In the case of Toothy Tile, the nature of those norms depends on whether one is inside or outside the gay community. Within the world of heteronormativity, Toothy Tile is at fault both for being gay and, more important, for wishing to make a public proclamation of that fact.
Despite the social changes of the past 50 years, the entertainment industry appears to be dealing with sexual orientation by the same standards in operation when Universal Pictures forced Rock Hudson to take a wife to forestall suspicions of homosexuality. The current attitude is described quite simply in one publicity-shy, or rather gay-publicity shy actor's legal complaint against a porn star who had claimed a relationship with him: "While plaintiff believes in the rights of others to follow their own sexual preference, vast numbers of the public throughout the world do not share his view and, believing that he had a homosexual affair and did so during his marriage, they will be less inclined to patronize [his] films, particularly since he tends to play parts calling for heterosexual romance and action adventure. " No doubt, these are the same audiences who would expect the actor to know how to pilot a jet fighter in real life.
Who, then, is thought to be the perpetually closeted Toothy Tile? Consensus gives the honor to Jake Gyllenhaal.
So, what team is Jake playing for? How many beards do you see in this picture? And...well, do I really have to say anything.
Source: I Dish, Therefore I Am: Performing Toothy Tile and Ted Casablanca by Frank Miller, Georgia State University
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«Oldest ‹Older 1201 – 1400 of 1891 Newer› Newest»"he's always saying things like, "well, I had a crush on a guy once, doesnt everybody?"
One of the early lovable things about adorable Jake! Too bad the name for his honest, wordy, rambling, twisty, convoluted, huh-whut-did-he-just-say hairpin-curve conversations "gyllenbabble" was made into a negative, rancid term.
compartmentalization
a mild state of dissociation, a state in which some integrated part of a person's life becomes separated from the rest of the personality and functions independently
"gyllenbabble" - another reason to hate the site. They couldn't come up with anything original so they used an affectionate Jake term and ruined it forever.
Thank you 12:44. I think even Ted understands this even if other people seem really threatened by it.
People are not two dimensional cartoons, and you would hope adults would get that.
I think even Ted understands this
I'm not sure what you mean - understands what exactly?
Just when you thought the Baby Tile fiction couldn't get any sillier.
Are you forgetting that this is the place for all Baby Tile theories and discussion, silly theories included?
More relvelations from Gilliam:
The two men say that the couple's relationship mimicked the marriage between the characters they played in Brokeback Mountain, with hers, lonely and resentful, watching his [sic] go off on his mysterious fishing trips…
Jezbel
Michelle's not gonna like this. LOL.
Mysterious fishing trips?
^^I wondered myself.
I think if Terry Gilliam invested more time in being a better director he wouldn't produce flop after flop for more than 10 years.
I don't think Heath would have appreciated this.
Anne Hathaway, James Franco and Michelle Williams have been invited to joint the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.
I'm a BT non believer, but i don't mind at all that the subject is being discussed here. I want to be aware of EVERYTHING that people say about The Toothy saga. Even if i don't agree with some things
peace, babies :)
"Mysterious fishing trips?"
Yeah we got some big orgasmsImeantrout during those trips! Working on our flies, playing with the bait, good times!
Although the focus is primarily on Ledger's career, there are a few paragraphs detailing his relationship with Michelle Williams (who declined to be interviewed for the article):
"According to Gilliam and Pecorini, the pair were too different for the romance to last. "My impression was that they had nothing in common," says Pecorini. "They didn't fit. They kept two separate lives. She never mingled with his friends-he never mingled with her friends." The two men say that the couple's relationship mimicked the marriage between the characters they played in Brokeback Mountain, with hers, lonely and resentful, watching his [sic] go off on his mysterious fishing trips… Gilliam and Pecorini agree that the romance began to unravel during the Oscar campaign for Brokeback Mountain, when Williams was nominated for best supporting actress alongside Ledger's nomination for best actor. For him, they say, the Oscars were a kind of game that he went along with grudgingly, whereas Williams took the hoopla more seriously."
More relvelations from Gilliam:
^^`
Ugh. More of that shit? You know, i don't think Mr.Gilliam is doing any favour to Heath by saying all this stuff.
What I ended up thinking after this interview, is that Heath was an hypocrite who acted an image of a man in love and responsable father DURING BBM promotion.Apparently, all that was a little bit fake now.
I bet Heath thought that image of himself would help him to win the Oscar, the prize he "didn't care about" but even so, he bought a tuxedo and parade himself and his babysmomma in front of all the media. Just to be sure the Academy got that THEY WERE A NORMAL,STRAIGHT COUPLE that just happens they acted in a gay drama.
Heath was an actor concerned about self image too, not diferent from Michelle, Anne, Reese and our dear Toothy. I just find it very weird that Terry Gilliam, who calls himself a friend of his, is confirming this in public :(
I bet Heath thought that image of himself would help him to win the Oscar, the prize he "didn't care about" but even so, he bought a tuxedo and parade himself and his babysmomma in front of all the media.
I think he tried to convince himself about this relationship (to be fair he said all the nice things when baby Mattie was born and I'm sure he was over the moon back then). JMO.
Heath was an actor concerned about self image too
Did you bother to read the rest of the article?
Either you didn't read it or misunderstood it completely.
What I ended up thinking after this interview, is that Heath was an hypocrite who acted an image of a man in love and responsable father DURING BBM promotion.
What are you talking about?!
Heath was in love with Michelle, Heath was a loving father, but "the pair were too different for the romance to last".
No doubt, he was interested in Michelle at first and loved his baby girl. But in the end they didn't fit, like most already saw back then.
"I think he tried to convince himself about this relationship"
Then why are we so hard on Jake who is trying to "convince" himself he can be everything the establishment wants him to be? It's because is only wrong to be a liar when you are gay?? Straight guys can get away with anything??
Then why are we so hard on Jake who is trying to "convince" himself he can be everything the establishment wants him to be? It's because is only wrong to be a liar when you are gay?? Straight guys can get away with anything??
You probably don't want to hear it, but there is stil no proof (except for Ted's gossip) that Jake is gay and bearding. He might be bi and dating that midget for real. Who knows? No one here I'm sure.
Reese was stupid enough to beard with Mr. Confidentiality Agreement, so why wouldn't she be stupid enough to be in a car with Baby Tile. Look at those pictures from Paris of Jake with his tongue practically on the ground right while looking at hot blonde guy smack dab in the middle of a Reeke-fest.
Yes, there is proof that Jake is gay and bearding - 1.000 photos of Jake and his beard are proof.
Terry Gilliam has some real issues. I blame him to some extent for what happened with Heath. He claims to be such a friend, a kind of "father figure" to Heath. Yet "Daddy" saw that his "son" wasn't well, and yet he allowed Heath to keep right on working instead of insisting that he take care of his health, take more time off if necessary. He rationalizes it now as somehow helping Heath by allowing him to work, but it was plain selfish.
Also, it's obvious from some of Gilliam's previous comments that he resents the idea that Heath found such fame with a "commericial" film such as TDK, and has tried to downplay Heath's work in that. Gilliam may play that commercial success doesn't matter to him, but he's lying. And I think part of him resents that Heath found what has evaded him for decades, critical and commerical success. Christopher Nolan and Heath were the "risktakers" inside the covers of Vanity Fair, not Gilliam and Heath.
I have no doubt what he has revealed about the nature of the relationship between Heath and Michelle was true, but I want to know why he's talking about something this personal to Heath.
How disrespectful is that?
Gilliam needs to shut up and take a good hard look at himself and his real feelings regarding Heath.
Jake hugging mommy Reese like an insecure child missing his blankie is proof that Jake is gay.
Honestly, with pictures like that, it's a wonder anyone would want to cast Jake in their movie.
Yes, there is proof that Jake is gay and bearding - 1.000 photos of Jake and his beard are proof.
Photos? Give me a break. Also, pics can be deceiving quite often. If you check their pics on IHJ, they seem ok together most of the time though.
And no, I'm not a Reeke supporter. I can't stand those pretentious fools.
No one here I'm sure.
We know that Jake is gay and bearding.
2:13 PM #2
I have seen ALL IHJ gallery pictures of Jake, Jake and different people, and Reeke.
That's why I'm sure Jake is gay and bearding.
Then why are we so hard on Jake who is trying to "convince" himself he can be everything the establishment wants him to be?
Because that has nothing to do with love and good intentions.
I want to know what they mean by "mysterious" fishing trips. I know Heath liked to go out and party, but there's nothing mysterious about that.
The "fishing trips" were about outside relationships. Are they trying to say Heath was cheating or something more than that?
What's more / worse than cheating?
I didn't know this:
In fact, a few years earlier he [Heath] had met with director Christopher Nolan regarding the title role in the first of his Batman films, Batman Begins, but the actor was reluctant to become involved in a franchise.
I don't know 2:20, that's why I asked.
Jake hugging mommy Reese like an insecure child missing his blankie is proof that Jake is gay.
Some men are like that.
Jake hugging mommy Reese like an insecure child missing his blankie is proof that Jake is gay.
Some men are like that.
Yes, especially the gay ones...
Yes 2:28 PM, a lot of men are gay.
I don't know 2:20, that's why I asked.
OK, I think there is nothing worse than cheating, at least not in this case.
"Jake hugging mommy Reese like an insecure child missing his blankie is proof that Jake is gay."
Actually it's not.
Yes, it is.
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
Why don't you check it out with babblers, they will know!
Yes, it is.
It's no proof at all. Gay men do it, but also straight, I've seen it numerous times. Not saying Jake's not gay though.
Geez. The point is that Jake doesn't hug or treat Reese as a girlfriend - because she's a beard.
"Why don't you check it out with babblers, they will know!"
No, thanks, I like it here. It still isn't, by the way.
Yes, it is. Jake is gay, you can't fix it.
Are we in kindergarten here or what?
Geez. The point is that Jake doesn't hug or treat Reese as a girlfriend - because she's a beard.
Couples interact diffently. And I've seen many straight guys hugging their gf's/wifes like little boys. Still not saying she's not his beard though, mind you!
Yes, it is. Jake is gay, you can't fix it.
Are we in kindergarten here or what?
What?
Reese is just a mommy substitute for Jake. He is so not sexy ever since he started this charade.
Reese is just a beard.
He is so not sexy ever since he started this charade.
Duh! No one can look hot around that cold bitch.
Jake has completely lost any hotness he had. Even if he dumps the bitch I don't think he can get it back.
I'll help Jake get his Mojo back!
Most thought Michelle was this goody two shoes, a lovely gal, but it turns out that she's very likely a resentful manipulator (though she probably has some good sides too;)).
So maybe Reese ain't as bad as most here think?
Beats me why Jake and his people think that beating all of the sexy out of him is the way to get people to watch his films. Maybe that doesn't matter if you're a great actor like Seymour Hoffman or a comedian like Seth Rogen, but Jake doesn't fit into any of those categories. Can't be a Pitt or Clooney if you've got the appeal of a wet blanket.
Even if he dumps the bitch
It won't happen anytime soon.
If you want to see an example of a straight man who treated his girlfriend/wife like a mommy substitute, you need to go back and look at the pictures of John Lennon and Yoko Ono.
That particular picture of Jake and Reese says nothing about his sexuality but everything about need and dependancy. I think Jake's relationship with Reese may have started out as simple bearding but it has progressed beyond that. She seems to be fulfilling some kind of emotional/psychological need. I don't know when the turn started, but I am sure it was after Heath's death. I am not saying Heath's death triggered it, but just that something was different after that.
This is why I think this relationship will go on for awhile. At least, until he finishes repairing whatever the damage is or Reese ends it.
Jake loves the attention he gets when he's Reeking.
Yeah, right, it shows in his eyes.
3:05 PM #1
Please don't do that.
Keep the chin out of Heath and Michelle discussion at all times.
I thought Teresa was always gushing about what a loving couple Heath and Michelle were.
That particular picture of Jake and Reese says nothing about his sexuality but everything about need and dependancy.
Bullshit, it says a lot about Reeke photo ops.
Jake was sitting in the chair, paparazzi were taking pictures, Reese wanted some PDA pictures and hugged Jake. Jake hugged her back, while looking somewhere else. Reese got nice pictures, Jake did well, fangirls are happy - the end.
People who say "what" and "whut" and "huh" and "I'm just curious" probably scratch their crotches in public.
^^To me it looked like Jake was pulling her to him. Check the pics out again.
I hate all of the phony Reeke PDA. There's nothing natural about any of it. And it's so unnatural for Reese that it makes my skin crawl.
3:18, I am sure the pics came about just as you say, it is what Jake's posture in that hug communicates that is interesting.
Go and look at photos of John and Yoko.
Please!
Go on and believe that Jake is madly in love with the chin, just don't try to sell us that hug bullshit.
I think Jake's relationship with Reese may have started out as simple bearding
The fauxmance was planned as a long publicity stunt, Reese needed a long term "bf", anything else wouldn't work for her public image.
Why was Michelle demanding anything from Heath? He wasn't married to her and didn't owe her anything. He paid for that house that he let her stay in with Matilda. What else could she want?
I think she tried to hurt Heath by making money demands, and used visitation with Matilda to hurt and manipulate him. She knew about the trust set up for Matilda so why would she be going after Heath with lawyers? I don't believe it was for Matilda's sake for one minute.
She just wasn't going to accept him leaving her cleanly.
She seems to be fulfilling some kind of emotional/psychological need.
Yes, Jake's need to appear straight in public, make producers happy and fuck men in private.
Reeke has been as carefully staged as any play. I'm sure they thought it would make it look more real, and would give them more tabloid mileage.
Too bad for them that most people think this play sucks.
and used visitation with Matilda to hurt and manipulate him.
I've no doubt about that. She was pissed at him for how it all turned out and hurt him where she knew it'll hurt the most... that baby.
I think she tried to hurt Heath by making money demands, and used visitation with Matilda to hurt and manipulate him.
That's quite an accusation you made there.
Too bad for them that most people think this play sucks.
I think most people think they date for real, judging by the comments on different internet sites.
3:29 PM, well said.
3:35 PM #2
Why wouldn't they? They don't care about Reeke, they believe tabloids and have no idea how Hollywood PR works.
I think Michelle fell hard for Heath. Heath was so anxious to prove how straight he was that he impregnated the first woman who came along after he arrived on the BBM set. I blame him for the relationship not working. He should have never lead Michelle to believe that he was so smitten with her. No wonder she was bitter.
Heath had no reason to prove he's straight, he was constantly dating women and girls.
And there were no gay rumors about him.
I am 3:29, and I stand by what I wrote. Just think about it. Heath had had tons of relationships, some long term. When he broke up with those other women, their may have been some drama or bad acting involved, but the breaks were basically clean. And Heath managed to stay on friendly terms with many of his past girlfriends.
That did not happen with Michelle. And I don't think the issue for Matilda. He adored that baby; so he obviously wasn't a neglectful or abusive father. He provided for Matilda financially through the trust and emotionally one on one. So what could Michelle have needed all of those attorneys for? What could the fighting been about? Hell, he even let her stay in the house he paid for. And she had her own money so why was she after more from him?
She wanted to hurt him. He left her, but she wouldn't leave him.
They needed attorneys because they had a daughter and there were custody issues. The other relationships were easy to end cleanly. Michelle probably didn't want her daughter in the custody of a drug abuser.
I think Michelle fell hard for Heath. Heath was so anxious to prove how straight he was that he impregnated the first woman who came along after he arrived on the BBM set. I blame him for the relationship not working. He should have never lead Michelle to believe that he was so smitten with her. No wonder she was bitter.
So why did he break up with Naomi then in May, shortly before leaving to shoot BBM (you can see pics of them together in April/May when they were still together). He and Naomi broke up allegedly because he wasn't ready to settle down. Michelle was a convenient reboud with whom he hooked up just within days on set. She wasn't really hard to get, was she? I think she got pregnant to keep him, because she felt (rightly so) she alone wouldn't be enough to keep him.
3:43 PM, nonesense. There was no reason whatsoever for Heath to prove he was straight.
"Reeke has been as carefully staged as any play. I'm sure they thought it would make it look more real, and would give them more tabloid mileage.
Too bad for them that most people think this play sucks."
I want my money back!
Anyone who has sex and isn't ready to take on the responsibilty of a child needs to use birth control - male or female. Both parties are equally responsible for conceiving that child. Heath doesn't get a free pass just because he's a guy. Heath was just as easy to get as Michelle, wasn't he?
Heath panicked at the thought of being perceived as gay. It was so obvious.
"When he broke up with those other women, their may have been some drama or bad acting involved, but the breaks were basically clean. And Heath managed to stay on friendly terms with many of his past girlfriends.
What could the fighting been about?"
You don't have children do you.
"Heath was just as easy to get as Michelle, wasn't he?"
Why didn't Jake get him then? You bet your ass he wanted him.
"Anyone who has sex and isn't ready to take on the responsibilty of a child needs to use birth control - male or female. Both parties are equally responsible for conceiving that child. "
Blah blah blah blah blah. . .
broken record. Geeeze, let it go!
Heath panicked at the thought of being perceived as gay. It was so obvious.
I didn't see it. I saw a man who obviously was very self conscious and awkward when at public events and interviews. He's always been that way, pre and post BBM.
Why didn't Jake get him then?
Who says he didn't? Why did Jake have a boner at the DGA's? They sometimes gave me an intimate vibe.
^^I've always had this strange feeling about Heath and Jake. And NO, I'm not a shipper. I just have fucking eyes! It was too obvious, I mean really.
No, Heath wasn't worried about being perceived as gay - why would he? Guess you're admitting that all of your fantasies about Jake and Heath are just that.
Isn't it funny how Heath had no problems having gay friends, his friend from his production company "Masses", Todd Haynes, Michael Stipe etc., but was so often awkward with Jake. And the way Jake was looking at him... There was something going on, I would bet all my money in my account.
Parties? We're talking about two real people, not a contract. No matter how much we try to intellectualize equality, the reality is most of the responsibility of birth control falls on the the woman, as does child care. That's how women are designed. Obviously, women are capable of much more of a contribution to society than just breeding, but our basic wiring is the way it is. There are exceptions, but generally. And yes, people do get emotional, passionate and careless. That's why human birth rates are sky high, most aren't planned.
There were gay for pay rumors swirling around Heath when he first came to HW. You didn't hear about them because you weren't on th DL site or other sleazy sites bsck in 2000-2001 or so.
There was nothing going on between Heath and Jake, stop with your silly fangirl slash.
I understand that there were custody issues between Michelle and Heath. But that was just an issue for Michelle to torment Heath with. Heath was not a "drug abuser" and no one has any proof of this.
Why was Michelle demanding more and more money? Heath was generous enough to her. And he made sure Matilda was taken care of.
Remember in the interview in Elle, she said she didn't expect Heath to "break her heart." All of that shit she pulled was about her.
I really hate to think all of this contributed to Heath's state of mind, and gave him pain and sleepless nights, and ultimately hurt him. Credentials, schmedentials, but a director like TG and a publication like VF have reputations at stake, doubt they'd print it if there wasn't something to it. :((((((
I don't believe Heath was "gay for pay" for one minute. He believed too much in his talent for that.
There was nothing going on between Heath and Jake, stop with your silly fangirl slash
That's your opinion, I have mine. Don't call me a silly fangirl, cause I'm not.
I've never heard any gay rumors about Heath. I just read that one BI that some people think is about him. Or maybe the BI is completely made up.
I don't believe Heath was "gay for pay" for one minute. He believed too much in his talent for that.
IA.
Probably someone who didn't like Heath made that shit up. You read that about almost every actor in Hollywood though.
One day the truth about Jake and Heath will come out too. I'm just waiting for it patiently.
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Looks like a lot of parties don't take their responsibilities seriously.
There were gay for pay rumors swirling around Heath when he first came to HW. You didn't hear about them because you weren't on th DL site or other sleazy sites bsck in 2000-2001 or so.
Who was paying? No escort services for women rumors?
Maybe Jake and Heath have more in common than I thought.
"I think most people think they date for real, judging by the comments on different internet sites."
I think what Jake meant when he sang that song on SNL "And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going" was he knew he soon was going to be screwing over his hardcore fans, sacrificing their 100% devotion to him for being himself over the years for a 10% name recognition+likeability image with the masses.
Jake singing "And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going" in drag with some gay cowboys in the audience, it was a warning about the bearding and his image change to come. No matter how many times they see his movie in an opening weekend, Jake's relatively small but devoted original core audience could never match the box office figures of zillions who don't think one whit about him but who will go see his movie once on an opening weekend because they recognize his name.
Jake but especially his agents and managers, are going for numbers, hence the bearding and massive overkill PR. The falloff from IHJ, DCF and other Jake sites, even celeb boards where Jake is rarely discussed anymore, is disappointing but expected. For example, pre-Reeke IHJ had about 25,000 members and was a buzzing forum but now is practically dead. But hey so what if you sacrifice 25,000 hardcores to gain a few million half-empties, right?
"And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going" - uh huh, you keep telling yourself that, Jake.
I know Ian Halperin is probably a clueless tool, but for what it's worth, he did claim that Jake was in love with Heath. He said that Heath broke Jake's heart, and Jake still hadn't come to terms with it.
He also agrees that Jake is gay and Reeke is fake. Who knows what he makes up and what he doesn't and what he just copies.
Just thought I throw it out there.
^^It's sad that in order to do what he loves, he has to play the game. Once he achieves what he wants to, I'll bet things will be different. I hope we never lose that remarkable actor who played Jack Twist.
Who was paying? No escort services for women rumors?
Maybe Jake and Heath have more in common than I thought.
That gay for pay thing is complete BS IMO, like most things said on DL.
It's sad that in order to do what he loves, he has to play the game. Once he achieves what he wants to, I'll bet things will be different. I hope we never lose that remarkable actor who played Jack Twist.
What are you talking about? He could be an actor even if he outed himself as gay. Question is would he get the ones he likes?
I personally think Jake is bisexual and Reeke real, but using the relationship for promo.
""And I'm Telling You I'm Not Going"
I liv'd on that promise for longer than I shoulda, babe, but you are gone baby gone.
I know Ian Halperin is probably a clueless tool, but for what it's worth, he did claim that Jake was in love with Heath. He said that Heath broke Jake's heart, and Jake still hadn't come to terms with it.
If there's some truth in what he said, we'll find out eventually. Give it time.
Heath was so anxious to prove how straight he was that he impregnated the first woman who came along after he arrived on the BBM set.
Shit! I knew we shouldn't have wasted time and stopped off at that AARP office for our new ID cards!
Oh yeah Jake is bi- and loves to bang The Chin.
& the Brooklyn Bridge is still on the market.
4:43 PM
Everyone is happy (including fangirls), no one needs to come out and no one is lying bitch option. lol
In my opinion Jake is bi and Heath experimented with dudes, so there is a possibility something happened between them.
"So why did he break up with Naomi then in May, shortly before leaving to shoot BBM"
Holy crap Heath was dating my mother?
Ian H is one sick Canadian.
that being said
HAPPY CANADA DAY to the Canucks. You are a funny people and I lurve you!
That gay for pay thing is complete BS IMO, like most things said on DL.
DL is a gossip forum full of gay men who follow gossip, aren't naive and some of them work in the industry.
It doesn't prove a thing, but compared to gossip forums full of ignorant fangirls who have no clue about gay men, DL is the best we have.
In my opinion, Heath thought Jake was an idiot, which he is
Holy crap Heath was dating my mother?
Don't play dumb Jake. ;)
I don't know about the Jake being in love with Heath notion. Would Austin stick around if that was really the case?
Although, he did stick around while Jake was obviously lusting after Heath. So would it just be a case of closing your eyes to it and hoping it would pass?
In my opinion, Heath thought Jake was an idiot, which he is
LOL.
But hey so what if you sacrifice 25,000 hardcores to gain a few million half-empties, right?
I can't wait to see how many of these so-called new fans will show up for Brothers. And people still don't really know who Jake is, beyond the guy dating Reese. Don't see that being enough to put butts in the seats either. You really think there is a large contingent of fans out there who now find Jake hot and are panting to see him in a movie after all those "hot" pictures in US Reekely? Haaaaaa!
"I don't believe Heath was "gay for pay" for one minute. He believed too much in his talent for that"
^^
I think that too. Heath came for a wealthy family and his dad took care of promoting his HW carrer.
No need to be "gay x pay",unless he enjoyed it ;)
Sorry 4:50 PM, but most gossip I read on DL turned out to be bullshit.
"Anyone who has sex and isn't ready to take on the responsibilty of a child needs to use birth control - male or female. Both parties are equally responsible for conceiving that child. "
"Blah blah blah blah blah. . .
broken record. Geeeze, let it go!'"
They can't, their legs are permanently snapped tightly shut!
I think that too. Heath came for a wealthy family and his dad took care of promoting his HW carrer.
No need to be "gay x pay",unless he enjoyed it ;)
Yes, Heath had a family who supported him, but he was also very talented. I think directors saw that.
But I also don't believe the rumor that Jake slept with the producer for PoP to get that part.
Why not? Because Us Weekly and People don't write about such things?
"Isn't it funny how Heath had no problems having gay friends, his friend from his production company "Masses", Todd Haynes, Michael Stipe etc.,"
And isn't it funny how "Jake-half-the-people-I-know-are-gay" is hardly seen with his gay friends and has avoided Prop 8 and all gay rights, statements and rallies like the plague? You know damn well if Heath was still living he would be a part of it.
And isn't it funny how "Jake-half-the-people-I-know-are-gay" is hardly seen with his gay friends and has avoided Prop 8 and all gay rights, statements and rallies like the plague?
Yeah, it's pretty obvious.
Sorry 4:50 PM, but most gossip I read on DL turned out to be bullshit.
Liar.
And isn't it funny how "Jake-half-the-people-I-know-are-gay" is hardly seen with his gay friends and has avoided Prop 8 and all gay rights, statements and rallies like the plague?
No, that's only expected from closeted and bearding gay.
Liar.
I'm not lying. That's the experience I've made.
No, that's only expected from closeted and bearding gay.
Or he doesn't really care about it that much (anymore).
Reeking and gay rights don't mix.
"Why was Michelle demanding anything from Heath? He wasn't married to her and didn't owe her anything"
I don't want to sound like I'm happy that Heath is dead, but at some level, I'm glad he is no longer here to became the next Charlie Sheen of the tabloids.
Guilty or not, Mr. Sheen has a real revengeful bitch as an ex wife.
WTF are you talking about, 5:30?
"And people still don't really know who Jake is, beyond the guy dating Reese."
I saw a really funny Twitter convo recently where two middle-aged women were going back and forth trying to figure out one of Jake's movies and how to spell his last name, one of them said "Its spelled Gyllenhaal? Haven't these people ever heard of stage names?"
LMAO! I even hate saying his name to people, there's too many J's/soft G's, people always say WHO???? Then they're like, oh him. LOL.
5:30 is Charlie's new wife, LMAO.
"But I also don't believe the rumor that Jake slept with the producer for PoP to get that part."
Either do I.
Jake had to do more than sleep!
Jake gives great blowjobs!
two middle-aged women were going back and forth trying to figure out one of Jake's movies and how to spell his last name
I swear to God you look like Jake Gooberballs!
MW - Of course she didn't need Heath's money, but she wanted it out of spite the same reason she didn't let him see the kid and wanted sole custody. She finally realized she was nothing but a rebound to him after the break up with NW and that pissed her off.
Would a POP blowjob be called a popjob or a blowpop?
"She finally realized she was nothing but a rebound to him after the break up with NW and that pissed her off"
That's not what Heath made her feel,though.
Sorry, but if she was just a rebound or just a fuck he should have stated that to her from the very begining and not giving her all that bullshit about being soulmates and destined to be together.
I find very suspicious that "artist, down to earth Heath" only realized he didn't like the media attention and wasn't interested about Oscars only AFTER the award season was over.
In all the time during movie promotion and awards he "seemed" to be just fine with the situation and didn't show the distance he felt for Michelle.
Then when he didn't ned her anymore, BAM! it was bye,bye,Bitch.
I would have gone for every dime if i were her
Would a POP blowjob be called a popjob or a blowpop?
Blowpop!
Heath convo is almost as annoying as Reeke.
Chut up, 6:09 PM #2!
"Chut up, 6:09 PM #2!"
Bitch. Go back to China.
^ ^ ^
Meant to add a :D
Sorry, but if she was just a rebound or just a fuck he should have stated that to her from the very begining and not giving her all that bullshit about being soulmates and destined to be together.
Yeah, I think he was a sweet- talker.
I find very suspicious that "artist, down to earth Heath" only realized he didn't like the media attention and wasn't interested about Oscars only AFTER the award season was over.
I think he went along not to embarrass Michelle. I think she liked to present them as a perfect lil family and he went along with it. Although what he said about Matilda is true, he loved her very much.
I would have gone for every dime if i were her
Oh well.
Heath convo is almost as annoying as Reeke.
You don't have to participate, do you? ;)
If Reeke is annoying talk to you, you are wrong here, because we talk about them 24/7.
Bitch. Go back to China.
No need to be racist, you idiot. Go back from wherever you came from! We don't need racists here.
"Bitch. Go back to China.
No need to be racist, you idiot. Go back from wherever you came from! We don't need racists here."
That's a quote from Donnie Darko, in response to the poster that said Chut up which I assumed was also a quote from Donnie Darko but I may be wrong.
I could have quoted "I hope you get molested" but knew I would arouse the ire of many.
Dear Ted:
Is Toothy Tile Will Smith?
—Nhiltner1
Dear Tooth Fairy:
Nope, but Big Willy def is no saint! Think less megastar for our sweet, cowering T.T.
Bitch Back!
"sweet, cowering T.T."
Kind of describes those latest Reeke "hugging" pics, don't it.
Think less megastar for our sweet, cowering T.T.
cowering - to cringe in fear; to crouch, as in fear or shame.
That's a quote from Donnie Darko, in response to the poster that said Chut up which I assumed was also a quote from Donnie Darko
Yes, it was.
If H and M relationship was like Ennis and Alma then I can understand M wanting H to suffer. I think H was fishing with drugs and other women, but it could be men. I think he slept with everyone that could get him off.
Maybe she threatened him about the drugs and he stopped. That isn't a bad thing. If he was clean (and lived) then his daughter would've had a better father.
cowering - to cringe in fear; to crouch, as in fear or shame
=
LOSER!
I think Heath thought that he was in love with Michelle, for a time. But over time, it became clear it was a mistake, but then he tried to make it work because he loved Matilda. I think Michelle realized she was losing him and probably allowed her fear and anger to drive her to behavior that just put him off her more and more. She also may have foolishly thought loving Matilda would keep Heath loving her.
Once the separation happened, rather than really trying to work it out, she tried to use Matilda to beat Heath down. She also tried to get at Heath by demanding money that she didn't deserve.
She didn't need money for Matilda; Heath made sure that girl was set for life. Heath didn't owe Michelle a dime.
Michelle thought she was going to live a fairy tale life with a fairy tale prince, and she was bitter about losing that. She went from being a princess back to being a commoner.
I didn't know you were quoting DD, it's a long time ago I watched that film.
Check out pics of Reese shopping in Brentwood. The more she shops the uglier her outfits get. LOL
I didn't know you were quoting DD, it's a long time ago I watched that film.
Sometimes, I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion!
"Back home on the west coast, Reese Witherspoon was spotted out combing the racks at a local boutique in Brentwood on Wednesday (July 1)."
I've noticed when she shops the local racks, filled with cheap casual separates clothes, she usually leaves for a Reeke photo op vacay/long weekend soon after.
6:37, the poster was not racist when mentionning "Go back to China".
China is a totalitarian state that hampers free speech on the internet and in print.
I could understand Michelle having an issue if she thought Heath was having problems with drugs. Although, by all of the accounts that I read, Heath had been clean for some time but he was still complaining over the Christmas Holidays (before his death) that he wasn't seeing his daughter.
What I also don't understand is why she was going after him for money. She didn't need it.
Reese: Bad taste = closet full of mistakes = nothing to wear = always shopping at last minute
What I also don't understand is why she was going after him for money. She didn't need it.
Spite.
Good lord I wouldn't wear that to a dogfight!
Is that grotesque bag (the handbag, I mean) supposed to "go with" the tie-dyed ballooney skirt?
Big enuf for a klepto in the shoe department, though . . .
I think H was fishing with drugs and other women, but it could be men. I think he slept with everyone that could get him off."
Don't look at me. I'M STRAIGHT!!!
The harder the Chin tries to dress trendy and young, the frumpier she looks. She really is the typical Avon lady. It is funny that Chinny tries to be an Angelina Jolie, but Angie gets Armani perfumes contract and Reese gets Avon. Nice try Reese.
Speaking now of good actors, for a change from Reese etc., Mrs.Slocombe has died. RIP.
BBC
blue tie-dyed balloon skirt, white tank, brown shoes, gray/taupe cardigan, huge yellowish wood/tusk necklace, brushed gold hoop earrings, bright yellow gold bracelet, off-white canvas/brown leather hobo purse with silver fittings and some purple-pink WTF design on the front, oh well at least the brown leather on her shoes and purse match!
I find very suspicious that "artist, down to earth Heath" only realized he didn't like the media attention and wasn't interested about Oscars only AFTER the award season was over.
IA.
I find very suspicious that "artist, down to earth Heath" only realized he didn't like the media attention and wasn't interested about Oscars only AFTER the award season was over.
IA.
Thing is, if there were rumors about relationship problems it wouldn't be good for the movie either. Most portrayed them as this in love, happy couple. I think there was pressure on Heath and he went along with it and maybe he tried to convince himself and really make it work for little M.? To be fair he stayed with Michelle for over a year after award season was over.
Geez they're dropping like flies! Karl Malden died today too!
^^He was 97. That's a good age to die.
Heath never courted nor enjoyed media attention, from what I've read. I get the impression that he always did the bare minimum necessary, and even then wasn't thrilled about it.
And you should never use a child to get back at a man when the relationship ends. It only hurts the child as well, and I don't think a mature woman and responsible mother would want to do that. If a man cheats or a relationship ends, that's life. There are no guarantees, and you take a chance in relationships.
Very well said 7:40 PM.
7:40 PM, I completely agree. I love how many supporters Michelle has on WFT2 all of the sudden. Why do you think that is? ;)
((Karl Malden)))
To tell the truth, i thought he was already dead...
I will never forget the brave priest from the movie On The Waterfront...
I hate E.Kazan for being such a traitor but the movie was good, and Brando was amazing in it :)
Jesus H. Christ, all this bitch does is shop!
Michelle supporters = Reese fangurls
That stinking drinking drug user no-good actor cheated on such a beautiful actress and perfect mom!
Thanks, guys! :*
"((Karl Malden)))
To tell the truth, i thought he was already dead..."
So did I!
7:59 PM#2, think again.
Thing is, if there were rumors about relationship problems it wouldn't be good for the movie either. Most portrayed them as this in love, happy couple.
^^
Why is this different than what Jake is doing by reeking?
Heath was a junkie and liked to take it up the ass on occasion, deal with it.
Why is this different than what Jake is doing by reeking?
I think no one involved expected BBM to be such a success. And all of a sudden there was so much focus on them as a couple. I think Heath said many things that he thought people expected from him or even tried to convince himself about it. I don't think he did it for image or awards.
Jake and Reese deliberately call paparazzi to promote their relationship, their projects etc... There is a huge difference between both couples.
What's a "cubt"? I want one!
Heath was a junkie and liked to take it up the ass on occasion, deal with it.
And you know that how?
"I think Heath said many things that he thought people expected from him or even tried to convince himself about it"
Change the word "Heath" for Jake in that sentence and i still don't see the difference between both fauxmances.
Except that Matilda is the prove that H/M consumated the relationship, but in the matters of faking for the media, all of them have the same level
of falsety(sp?)
I would go further to say that most men and a lot of women are not monogamous by nature, and I think especially so in HW. It's only due to societal pressures and for property rights (to prove heirs and inheritance) which is a big reason for marriage and taboos on sex, female sexuality has always been repressed and restricted. The majority of men will remain faithful, but as Jimmy Carter said, not in their minds. That's why, even in a recession, strip clubs do a land-office business and the ones traded on the stock exchange are doing well, skin mags and mindless T&A TV programs and movies do so well.
"And you know that how?"
8:07's mamma told him/her, right after she confessed that 8:07's father is her brother.
The difference between H/M and J/R is that Heath thought himself in love with Michelle. He wasn't faking anything. Neither was Michelle. Jake and Reese know they they aren't in love with each other, but are portraying a false image of their relationship.
Just look at all of the pictures of Heath and Michell at the Oscars. That was not faked. It fell apart for them later.
how long has it been now that Jake has gone to ground?
It's too bad that it fell apart for them (H&M); but you've got to enjoy a relationship while it lasts. I have no doubt that at the time, Heath meant what he said said and was very much in love. But don't use a child against a father, it just hurts both of them. I really like Michelle, I have to say. But there will never be another Heath.
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