Australian diver Matthew Mitcham won gold in the men's 10m platform event at the Beijing Olympics.
July 2, 2008
In August, diver Matthew Mitcham will become the first openly-gay Australian to compete in an Olympic Games.
In many ways, Matthew Mitcham is just your regular 20-year-old gay guy.
He lives in inner Sydney, he has a boyfriend, his favourite club is Arq. He loves to watch The Simpsons, Futurama and Queer As Folk. His favourite music is by The Presets, Kate Miller-Heidke and Missy Higgins.
But Matthew Mitcham is not your regular 20-year-old gay guy.
Not only is he an elite member of Australia’s Olympic diving team, but last month he became headline news around the world.
The reason? For being gay.
A casual remark to a journalist during an interview with The Sydney Morning Herald led to a flurry of international publicity. The Herald put Mitcham on its front page. In Britain, national daily newspaper The Independent carried an article under the headline ‘Gay diver breaks Australian sporting taboo’.
Respected British daily The Guardian, rarely interested in Antipodean affairs, chimed in with an opinion piece asserting that while “Australia is an enlightened place these days, Australian sport, on the other hand, is not.” Mitcham had committed “a brave act indeed by coming out”, it said.
But the person at the centre of it all sees things differently.
Speaking to SX during a break from training at the Sydney Aquatic Centre in Homebush, Matthew Mitcham is nonplussed by all the fuss.
“It’s not really a big deal,” he says. “It’s not like I’m a different person. It’s not like I was straight before. So nothing really has changed.”
In fact, Mitcham doesn’t even agree that he ‘came out’ last month.
“I came out years ago. All that happened recently was that I was doing an interview with the Herald and there was a pretty innocuous question, ‘Who do I live with?’ and I just said ‘my partner Lachlan’. And the journalist was really excited – she thought it was absolutely wonderful!”
While Mitcham, who came out to friends and family at age fourteen (Mum’s reaction: “Well, duh!”), doesn’t see his sexuality a big deal, he’s not naïve about his position as Australia’s highest-profile out gay sportsman. He’s aware that other people do see it as “a big deal” and he’s happy to wear the mantle of ‘role model’ for young gay guys.
“Being in my position, it’s inevitable,” he concedes. “There’s not really much choice. If someone looks up to you, then you’re a role model. And I’m happy with that. I just hope I do a good job – I’m not perfect!”
He certainly bears the markings of a good gay role model: he’s successful, attractive and he’s not shy about speaking up on queer issues. When asked for his view on same-sex marriage, for instance, he has no compunction slamming Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
“I’m not happy with Kevin Rudd,” he says, bluntly. “Kevin Rudd’s opinion of marriage as something that’s only between a man and a woman is quite narrow-minded. During the election campaign he was all about appearing young and cool, but his views on gay marriage make him look quite old-fashioned.”
Similarly, Mitcham doesn’t hold back when quizzed about criticism of his ‘coming out’. When the Herald story was initially published, this journalist overheard two women on a train explaining to each other’s satisfaction why it was ‘ridiculous’. “Why don’t heterosexuals come out as straight?” harrumphed one. “They’re just obsessed with their sexuality,” sneered the other. I ask Mitcham for his response to this line of thinking.
“That’s a really uneducated, unworldly view,” he replies. “And you know what? Straight people talk about their sexuality all the time. They talk about the opposite sex, they talk about their wives, their husbands, their marriage. Those are all heterosexual discourses, and they do talk about them all the time. So those ladies didn’t think their comments through very well.”
But of course, gay politics is not Mitcham’s primary focus right now. He’s under a punishing training schedule ahead of the Beijing Olympic Games, where he hopes to bring back gold for Australia in the ten-metre platform and three-metre springboard events.
He’s already won gold this year at the 2008 Diving Grand Prix in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
“All my energy is focused on Beijing right now,” says a tenacious Mitcham. “I’ve been diving since I was eleven, so it’s been nine years of work leading up to this.”
Whether he brings back the gold or not, something tells me we’ll be hearing a lot more of Matthew Mitcham.
Source: Making a splash by Peter Hackney
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You should have read faster 10:15 AM.
Jake, listen to the Queen!
Helen Mirren: why I stopped taking cocaine
There are many reasons to give up cocaine: the price, the health risks, the illegality. But for Dame Helen Mirren the decision to turn her back on the drug was more specific: Klaus Barbie. Mirren, who won an Oscar last year for her portrayal of the Queen, says she took the decision after discovering the Nazi war criminal had been making money from selling cocaine while he was in hiding in South America in the early 1980s.
"I loved coke. I never did a lot, just a little bit at parties," said Mirren. "But what ended it for me was when they caught Klaus Barbie, the Butcher of Lyon, in the early 80s. He was hiding in South America and living off the proceeds of being a cocaine baron. And I read that in the paper, and all the cards fell into place and I saw how my little sniff of cocaine at a party had an absolute direct route to this fucking horrible man in South America."
Mirren says that from then on she never took cocaine again. "Until that moment I had never grasped the full horrifying structure of what brings coke to our parties in Britain."
In the interview with GQ magazine, Mirren, who starred in Prime Suspect as DCI Jane Tennison, says she has been held back by her looks. "I've always had big tits and blonde hair. That's an ... can be a terrible disadvantage," she said. "Because you're not allowed to be intelligent if you're a woman with big tits and blonde hair. And if you are, it offends people. Intelligence does not fit into that package, and you are patronised, condescended and insulted. Professionally."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2008/sep/01/drugsandalcohol.drugstrade/print
Prince of Persia movie set pictures
Some pictures taken in Ait Ben Haddou in Morocco of the Prince of Persia movie set have hit the web:
PoP movie set
Don't Ask Reese Witherspoon About Jake Gyllenhaal
Reese Witherspoon was in Brazil recently to promote her Avon campaign, "Talk with no Fear - Say no to Domestic Violence." She had just a few demands for the big event.
1. A helicopter.
2. Don't ask any questions about her relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal during interviews.
...
Do you think celebrities are justified in demanding that the press not ask them personal questions?
http://www.imnotobsessed.com/2008/08/29/dont-ask-reese-witherspoon-about-jake-gyllenhaal
She has about as much dancing ability as Jake.
Sorry, but Jake can dance. He can show some wierd moves but he can dance. the boys got rhythm!
Someone posted on some Jake site that they saw Jake dancing at some club in Sept. '06 when he was in TX at that music festival with Lance an d Matt and he couldn't dance for shit! The word used was spastic, LOL. There was also a video of him , Lance, Chris and others backstage dancing and he has NO rhythm. The only time I saw him dance and he looked ok was that birthday speciel for Ellen and hat was choregraphed, not natural.
1. A helicopter.
2. Don't ask any questions about her relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal during interviews.
You stupid woman!
The boys got rhythm!
You bet I do!
Party Animal
Jackie what's the deal?
well he's got traction (see also I Will Survive Ellen video) but Im not sure that's the same as rhythm.
Thanks to whoever posted that article about stars and politicians who are in the closet. Sounds like they could have been writing about Jake.
^^^
Inside the Closet, or the Fine Art of Denial
"We all choose actions that are in our own best interest. But there’s a certain point where self-preservation stops being pragmatic and starts becoming evil. For Gaulden, that tipping point happens around the time "when one begins to shut out the rest of the world and becomes the center of his own universe." With that in mind, he offers this generally true generalization: "All politicians, actors or celebrities have clinical narcissism -- it goes with the territory. Clinical narcissism means one is incapable of being honest with himself. He’s pathologically selfish and self centered."
^^^
Why do people like Larry Craig and George Michael keep putting themselves in situations where the cost of quickie public sex can be arrest and public humiliation? In part, it’s because we all know that gay sex is naughty and wrong and therefore incredibly hot and desirable.
The giddy thrill from being bad and getting caught may be the best, most primal reason for some to stay in the closet -- where a constrictive sex life has its own unique appeal. Tessina: "Some people can get addicted to the adrenaline rush; the excitement of getting away with it." She describes a biological justification for the heady mix of sex and lies: "You’re already having the hormonal rush of the sex. Then, add the extra adrenaline from the threat of being found out. That’s a powerful cocktail created in the body’s own system. It’s pretty easy to get addicted to that."
^^^
Still, he doesn’t give a free pass to those who remain in the closet at the expense of uninformed others. Gaulden: "I’ve had clients, usually men, who’ve been married with children and have a boyfriend on the side. I tell them they’re reprehensible as shit. You need to be loyal to one or the other. I may tell a gay man with a boyfriend the same thing. People have a right not to identify what they’re doing, as long as they’re not trying to live on both sides of the street."
Jackie what's the deal?
11:41 AM, I presume? Sorry, that was too much.
Sounds like they could have been writing about Jake.
I have no idea why this made me think of Jake ;)
The giddy thrill from being bad and getting caught may be the best, most primal reason for some to stay in the closet -- where a constrictive sex life has its own unique appeal.
This gay/bi stuff is tricky!
Opinion: Bisexual Cowboys in Love
Brokeback Mountain and the Bi-Tragedy Genre By Amy Andre
Brokeback Mountain is not a movie about gay people, and there are no gay people in it. There. I said it. Despite what you may have read in the many reviews that have come out about this new cowboy feature film, Brokeback Mountain is a bisexual picture. Why can't film reviewers say the word “bisexual” when they see lead characters with sexual and romantic relationships with both men and women? I am unaware of a single review of Brokeback calling the leads what they are–a sad statement on the invisibility of bisexual experience and the level of biphobia in both the mainstream and gay media.
Now for the best thing about Brokeback Mountain : Jake Gyllenhaal plays a bottom. I hope I didn't spoil the surprise for anyone, but I should be upfront–the promise of a hot sex scene between him and Heath Ledger is what brought this bi writer to the theater in the first place. I was not disappointed.
The film tells the story of a couple of teenage ranch-hands, played by Gyllenhaal (as Jack Twist) and Ledger (as Ennis Del Mar), who, in 1963, find themselves tending sheep together for the summer. Two young men, a few dogs, and about 10,000 sheep on a mountain range, and you've got the makings of a fine bisexual cowboy flick. They're rugged types, and their connection is intensely physical, with lots of roughhousing around the campfire. But their love builds slowly, and the remainder of the film meanders over the course of their next twenty years.
Both are bi, both are married to women, both are fathers–to varying degrees of success–and they share and struggle with the cloying homophobia that blankets their lives. A warning for the weepy: this ain't no happy-ending movie.
I like movies where bisexuals come out to each other together and fall in love, because these tend to be so few and far between; the most recent example would be 2002's lovely romantic comedy, Kissing Jessica Stein. Most movies with bi characters paint a stereotypical picture: the unlucky, unsuspecting, hetero or gay person falls for the bisexual bon vivant, and all hell breaks loose. The bi love interest is usually deceptive ( Mulholland Drive ), over-sexed ( Sex Monster ), unfaithful ( High Art ), and fickle ( Three of Hearts ), and might even be a serial killer, like Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct . In other words, the bisexual is always the cause of the conflict in the film.
But Brokeback Mountain is different. Neither of the two leads, by virtual of their shared orientation, are out to wrong each other; they're in it together and conflicted over what to do. They cannot come out to anyone else and so try, somewhat successfully, to hide their love for each other. So what's wrong? Why was I liking, but not loving, this movie? After all, it had beautiful cinematography, talented actors, and a unique plot. What more could a bi movie-lover want?
For a movie based on a short story, this film sure dragged on. The supporting characters, were two-dimensional and boring. And it was repetitive: How many times can you have the same argument with your lover? How many times can you give a doleful look as your lover tells you it's never meant to be? I wanted to shout at the screen: move on, guys! Find new boyfriends, or pack up and go to San Francisco together. Enough of this tortured soul crap.
Someday, I'd like to see a bisexual movie that's not about heartbreak, lost love, or wasted romance. What do you say, Hollywood? Will you bring us a feature film with a bisexual who's not confused or upset, and where the source of conflict comes from anything else besides sexuality? I'll be the first one standing in line, ticket in hand…
http://nsrc.sfsu.edu/MagArticle.cfm?Article=554
Dark Knight Joins $500 Million Club
The Dark Knight yesterday became only the second movie in Hollywood history to gross $500 million or more. The movie now stands within $100 million of toppling Titanic as the biggest-ever movie at the domestic box office.
Elsewhere, Tropic Thunder made it three wins in a row at the weekend box office, with a $14.3 million four-day, holiday take, per studio estimates today from Exhibitor Relations. The Dark Knight's estimated Sunday gross of $3.3 million put the Batman movie over the $500 million mark only 45 days into its release, per Box Office Mojo stats.
For the Friday-Monday, Labor Day weekend, the Christopher Nolan film made $11 million. Its overall take now stands at $504.7 million. Titanic rules the all-time box-office chart with a domestic gross of $601 million.
If Jake was crying on the set of PoP it was probably because he missed and partner Austin and their child.
^his parther Austin
BBM was not a "bisexual" movie. Anyone who thinks that totally did not get the movie and/or is just writing this crap in some delusional attempt to be provocative.
Dark Knight Joins $500 Million Club
Awesome!
5:14 I agree and this guy misses the point entirely. These men are victims of their environment and backgrounds, their love can’t be anything but doomed. Besides BBM wouldn't have had the same impact had it had a happy ending, all great love stories are tragedies.
BBM was not a "bisexual" movie. Anyone who thinks that totally did not get the movie...
I agree.
The author of that article/review is bisexual: Amy Andre has a master's degree in human sexuality studies from San Francisco State University. She works as a sex educator and writer on sexuality topics, primarily focused on bisexuality. Visit her on the Web at visit www.AmyAndre.com .
Ooops, "this guy" is a woman, my bad.
Spank Me Daddy Spacey!
I'm not really sure what's going on in these pictures. All I know is that there's a dude's bare ass in Kevin Spacey's face and he's looking at it like....well...like there's a raw ass in front of his face. And I doubt his eyes are sparkling from the camera's flash. His eyes are really twinkling, because he's so giddy with excitement that he has an all-you-can-eat salad bar right in front of his mouth! You think the guy's ass is a little red now? Imagine the way it looked after Spacey was finished with it.
Here's more of Kevin Spacey coveting a dude's nalgas in Croatia. I also threw in some pictures of him smoking something good with some trick.
Dlisted
It may well be that Jake and Heath liked to assure themselves BBMt was about two "real" (haha) men who fell in love - and Jake did spout this line of reasoning, silliy bloke - but AP's story is about "rural homophobia" not about two st guys falling in love.
Ang himself knew it wouldnt be okay to play it "gay" - and even thot it would be received as a chick flick. which, in a way, it was.
Id love to see it played as it was layed.
DL gossip: Have you ever been cruised by a celebrity?
"Ian Thorpe -- Met him at a party in Hong Kong, but didn't know who he was until my friend told me. The same friend (originally from Australia)also told me that Ian was involved with Tom Cruise, with Nicole Kidman's full knowledge"
(BBM was not a "bisexual" movie. Anyone who thinks that totally did not get the movie and/or is just writing this crap in some delusional attempt to be provocative.)
Sorry, I've always said this from the start. Heath Ledgers (Ennis) had not been with a male sexualy before Jack. Ennis continued sex with his wife, Jack did also during their relationship. When Ennis was not with Jake he boinked (had sex with) another woman after he divorced from his wife. Jack had sex with other men of course, but he was somewhat afraid he might get caught by the husband of some woman he was screwing on the side. But they coninued their love relationship and sex for over 20 years. Some wil not agree, I don't care, IMO it was more about bisexuality. Period. I know the writer said they were gay, I'm not gonna argue it, I just disagree with it.
The giddy thrill from being bad and getting caught may be the best, most primal reason for some to stay in the closet.
That should say: being bad, getting caught by the right person, and then being punished.
Yooohooooooo, Mr Batman. I've been very, very bad in Morocco.
^^Sorry: Should be, (when Ennis was not with Jack) not JAKE.. Did I just have a Fraudian slip?
^^aghhh, Sorry again.
should be, I just (DON'T) agree with it! Long day today.
9:34, I don't disagree with you, but I think you are defining "gay" very narrowly. Gay men who marry women and have children do not become bisexual because of it.
"Bi" doesn't just mean the physical ability to make out with male or female. I think Annie Proulx defined Ennis and Jack as gay because their most important lifelong sexual and emotional relationship was with each other.
If they enjoyed sex with women *equally* as much, then perhaps some would call them bisexual. But just because they did it with women doesn't mean it was as good for them.
Gay men who marry women and have children do not become bisexual because of it.
No. you may be right, but Men who are interested Mostly into hetro sex with women 95% of the time, dates women or spends most of his time with married wife and children but sometime have sex with men on the side should not be called gay. Judge if you want, but some do not and will not consider them selves as gay. Simply because with (some) men, most of the interest is with the opposite sex. Some may be gay and faking sex with women. Some can and will lie, but there are many many variables with human sexuality. And this is with both sexes.
"The giddy thrill from being bad and getting caught may be the best, most primal reason for some to stay in the closet."
Jake looking thrilled and giddy while Austin's fly is half-zipped and shirt button is missing
Jack had sex with other men of course, but he was somewhat afraid he might get caught by the husband of some woman he was screwing on the side.
Jack was lying to Ennis when he said that. He was actually sneaking around to see the ranch foreman, not his wife - the bearded guy from the dance.
^ thanks for pointing that out, 3:58. I'm afraid some on here misunderstood several things about Annie Proulx's story. Time to reread?
IMO it was more about bisexuality
I don't agree. Ennis was deeply closeted and couldn't except his gayness, Jack was closeted gay man.
Jake looking thrilled and giddy while Austin's fly is half-zipped and shirt button is missing
:)
"Ian Thorpe -- Met him at a party in Hong Kong, but didn't know who he was until my friend told me. The same friend (originally from Australia)also told me that Ian was involved with Tom Cruise, with Nicole Kidman's full knowledge"
OMG, Ian Thorpe and Tommy Cruise? Wow, I just can't imagine that couple.
Ah, those gays! :)
Men who are interested Mostly into hetro sex with women 95% of the time, dates women or spends most of his time with married wife and children but sometime have sex with men on the side should not be called gay.
True, but we aren't discussing bi-curious men, we are discussing the line between bi and gay.
Ian Thorpe has always pinged for me, even before I've heard the rumors. It's just.... obvious.
Gay men who marry women and have children do not become bisexual because of it.
No. you may be right...
May be right? I think a lot of people have a problem with "gay men who marry women and have children" concept because it's hard to imagine what it's like to be a closeted gay man. Ms Amy Andre (Opinion: Bisexual Cowboys in Love) didn't get it either.
It's just.... obvious.
Man, I wish I had a gaydar!
Art lovers flock to exhibition
A CROWD of about 100 people packed the Bathurst Regional Art Gallery on Friday night for the opening of the Archibald Prize exhibition.
‘Heath’, the People’s Choice Award winning portrait of the late actor Heath Ledger, stole the show.
Vincent Fantauzzo, who painted ‘Heath’, was at the show and said he had been very close to the late actor. “I knew Heath quite well and had talked to him about the pressures of being a celebrity and his responsibilities to so many people,” Mr Fantauzzo said. “A lot of people feel like they knew him. When that happens you have to keep a certain amount to yourself. Anything you say can be used and abused.” He explained the two outer figures of Ledger in the painting represented voices telling him what to do while the middle figure’s blank stare showed how isolated he was feeling.
“To me it could be the most important painting I will ever do because it means so much personally. I was lucky to be there and have him open up at that time of his life. I was just really lucky,” he said. Sadly Ledger, 28, died before the painting was finished. Mr Fantauzzo opened the exhibition and said the Archibald Prize was an exhibition for everybody. “It is the exhibition everybody sees and has an opinion on. People can come in and feel comfortable having that opinion,” Mr Fantauzzo said.
“I had been asking Heath for many years to sit for me but he was very conscious of being painted because it would be of himself, not in character. “One day he phoned up and asked if I would paint him because he was feeling comfortable with himself at that moment. “I think he was very conscious and quite nervous because he was a very private person. “Now other people can have the same connection with Heath that I have had.”
Mr Fantauzzo also donated a drawing of Brandon Walters, the 11-year-old actor who will be starring alongside Nicole Kidman and Hugh Jackman in Baz Luhrmann’s Australia. The exhibition runs from August 29 to October 12. Entry is free.
Archibald Prize exhibition
Happy Birthday Keanu Reeves!
If this has been posted already, sorry. But for anyone who loved Heath Ledger's dark caramel voice:
Heath Ledger's Last Interview (Radio)
part 2
part 3
P.S. I'm adding the comment below from someone on a blog called Cinemascopian -- in response to another Heath audio clip -- because it just kills me. The recent conversation here at WFT2 has been about gay sex vs bi vs closeted married men and so on. But gay or not, why we are attracted to someone is, at it's deepest level, mysterious. Who can really know what drives the human heart?
Dick McMahon Says:
July 29th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
Thanks for sharing the audio tape. I’m a 70 year old married guy with two grown children. Well, I guess they’re not children anymore.
I’m still trying to figure out why Heath Ledger’s death has impacted me so much. I think it’s because I feel a little guilty about it. He was only 18-19 in the first film I saw of his (an Australian flick), and I watched his career develope over the years. I also saw his personal life start to disintegrate in 2007.
He didn’t know me, of course. There is nothing I could have done to stop what happened on January 22nd, but I think I saw it coming … and now wish I would at least have TRIED.
Thanks 8:45 AM!
If this has been posted already, sorry.
I think it wasn't posted before. Anyway, no need to worry about possibly repeated posts :)
I sure miss Jake looking thrilled and giddy.
That should say: being bad, getting caught by the right person, and then being punished. Yooohooooooo, Mr Batman. I've been very, very bad in Morocco.
9:12 AM, I wish you could see us in action.
8:45 Thanks, that interview broke my heart. :(
His voice is so damn beautiful and sexy. Ugh, his death was such a waste.
There is nothing I could have done to stop what happened on January 22nd, but I think I saw it coming … and now wish I would at least have TRIED.
Very different people feel the same about Heath.
May be right? I think a lot of people have a problem with "gay men who marry women and have children" concept because it's hard to imagine what it's like to be a closeted gay man. Ms Amy Andre (Opinion: Bisexual Cowboys in Love) didn't get it either.
^This statement may be true for some posters here but, Some posters (here), gay or straight, deffinately have a problem with labeling men who lead a straight life and (occasionally) have sex with men... I for one would not call them straight or bi-curious. I also would not call them "GAY". I would call them bisexual. But for some here, all things point to "GAY" for men who have same sex interest along with their interest in hetro sex.
The thing is, bisexuals are in the closet also and most are men.
I for one would not call them straight or bi-curious. I also would not call them "GAY". I would call them bisexual.
Just to make it clear - we all agree that sexuality isn't simple. It's not really important what we think or assume, it's important HOW THEY DEFINE their sexuality.
For example, I've read a post from a man who defines himself as gay but he never ever had sex with men. He's 40+, married with kids and closeted gay.
He didn’t know me, of course. There is nothing I could have done to stop what happened on January 22nd, but I think I saw it coming … and now wish I would at least have TRIED.
This may sound odd, but looking at pictures of him and hearing reports about him before he died, his death wasn't much of a shock to me. People were already wondering on fan boards what was wrong with him. :(
It's not really important what we think or assume, it's important HOW THEY DEFINE their sexuality.
^^Well: YOU SHOULD TELL THIS TO THE (POSTERS) WHO DEFINE EVERY MAN THAT HAS HAD SEX WITH A MAN THIS.
and Let's watch them scream GAY!
That's the problem with labels like gay and straight - they are not very accurate, but we still need them for practical communication reasons.
I assume there are many older gays who like older lesbians I have met have been in same sex obviously homo relationships all their lives but these are non-sexual. and some of these couples are publicly and privately fiercely homophobic in their attitudes.
Fiercely homophobic because they are in the closet?
Gawker about Kevin Spacey:
The Usual Buttsex
"fiercely homophobic because they are in the closet?"
Internalized homophobia, because of fear - job loss, shame, ostracization.
And today? It interested me to hear Jake said he felt, when in Canada filming, not "isolated" but "ostracized" -
Jake does alot of ambiguous kidding around - photo of Heath in prison on Brothers set? A joke? hahaha. I never got the joke, myself. Were he and Natalie poking fun at gays in the famous Gr Village pap photo?
Dont ask me for a link please! It may have been in context of another "foreign" setting away from family and community.
Im not sure, but I thought it was out of fear. Job loss, shame - inter
sorry about messy post, above! haste makes mess.
Were he and Natalie poking fun at gays in the famous Gr Village pap photo?
Please describe the photo.
I agree that sexuality isn't simple. But it doesn't change the fact that BBM was about two gay men, not two bisexual men. I also think all the evidence points to Jake being gay, not bisexual, and that most (but not all, so don't jump all over me) want Jake to be seen as bisexual so they can say Reeke is real.
But it doesn't change the fact that BBM was about two gay men, not two bisexual men.
I can't believe that a bisexual woman (Amy Andre) with a master's degree in human sexuality studies from San Francisco State University concluded that Jack and Ennis are bi.
Married Man Seeks Same for Discreet Play article, reader's comments:
"I totally understand WIlliam. Though, I was taught it was wrong, I two have a double life. I am 46 and now I am ready to make a switch. I want it. I need it. Will I do it? Ah, that is the million dollar question. I do not have kids, but I hate the idea of hurting my wife. She is a wonderful woman. I just wish I loved her the way she deserves to have a man love his wife. I would kill for her, but the idea of sleeping with her, is not there. But she has a drop dead body. She is truly beautiful. I have screwed her life up and mine. We have been together 18 years. I thought marriage would take care of these desires. I was just horny for sex. HA I now know, it is the way you are borned. If I could stop this I would. I really would.
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I too can relate to William. Just change the setting to small town central Nebraska. Anyone that doesn't believe we love our wives is running off of emotion. My wife is very important to me, not to mention the mother of my sons. Should I have done things differently? Yes. Would I change things if I could? No, because I can't imagine a life without my sons. I'll continue to live a double life as long as I am able to.
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As a wife, who thinks it is quite possible that my husband is also living a double life, I found this article very engaging. The comments William makes about the truth not helping are thoughts I know my husband would voice. All I want is the truth... The truth means everything to me and I need my husband to tell it to me. The worst thing is when you put the pieces together, and in the meantime the hubby just keeps spinning the same old lie. While the truth may not set William free it will set his wife free. It would allow her to simply be able to make an intelligent decision. Now that’s what you call being real.
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I am getting obsessed with these stories as I have found out about my husband, and he does not know I know. We are getting divorced, he asked. I know some of it has to do with his seeking sex with men. I have seen all his Craigslist entries and it is just frightening, and it goes back years. Years ago I did not know what M4M meant and glossed over it. Now I know and I've put the pieces together. This article shadowed my husband so much, it was scary. I truly believe this behavior is extremely prevalent in many married men. I truly believe that Internet/Craigslist gave license to men to carry out acts that otherwise would've remained as fantasy. It is just too easy...so easy to meet a stranger for an hour, not even speak! and carry out a fantasy sex act. So quick, you can deny to yourself it even happened. And since there were no witnesses, other than your own consciece, you can "delete" it. 20/20 should do a show on this....I'd be willing to add my 2 cents!
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I sympatize with this man as a fellow sufferer. I, too, have found in later life my latent gayness, which I have suppressed all through my adult life.
... most (but not all, so don't jump all over me) want Jake to be seen as bisexual so they can say Reeke is real.
Absolutely.
The other group are "sex with men + sex with women = must be bi man" people.
Nobody has bothered to mention men who FALL IN LOVE with another man.
The reason I consider Jack and Ennis to be gay is because their most important emotional/love relationship was with EACH OTHER, and not the women in their lives. And if their circumstances had been different they would have been with each other and probably not bothered to have relationships with women at all. I think this is what Annie was trying to convey in the story.
What about straight people getting married not looking for love but convenience? Gay men have 100 reasons more for marriages of convenience.
Guys does Nat Portman have something white in her nose? You can make the pic bigger and see for yourself:
Nat's white nose?
They all do coke, even "good girls" like Natalie Portman. I laugh at fans who think how perfect their stars are.
Natalie's new BF is a junkie musician, everyone in NY knows about it.
They all do coke, even "good girls" like Natalie Portman. I laugh at fans who think how perfect their stars are.
Yep, how ridiculous are they?! LMAO @ them.
Looks like she took on his habit, or maybe she was a user even before? I think she's overrated as an actress. Though I'm looking forward to Brothers, I wish someone else was cast as the female lead. Someone like Kate Winslet or Michelle Williams.
Hey, maybe I'll like her performance? I should better wait and see.
A lot of the comments on here seem to come from BBM-obsessed slashy female fangirls who have some sort of pririent interest in gay/bi men's lives. Like men aren't real people and they couldn't want more than sucking and fucking. It's irritating.
Even the silly fanfiction about Jake having orgies in Morocco. Yeah because that's what all gay/bi men do.
Jake and Toothy are talked about for being in love with another guy. Ted C has never said he's some sort of man-whore.
^^^Umm, chill pill?
Oh and I suppose Family Tile isn’t fanfiction? Yeah, ok.
Dear Ted:
After delving deeper in your articles and in others on other websites, I've come to a horrible conclusion—sure hope I'm 100 percent wrong—but is Toothy Tile Ben Affleck?
—strayerch240
Dear Spin Jen:
Oh, wouldn't that just give J.G. a kick in her softer spots, which, of course, don't exist, so what the ef are we talking about? Right age and acting oeuvre, wrong dude.
J.G. :)
(I can't believe that a bisexual woman (Amy Andre) with a master's degree in human sexuality studies from San Francisco State University concluded that Jack and Ennis are bi.)
WHY?
Justine: Holden - calm down! Alright?
Holden: I can't calm down! Easy if I was a hooker like you then I'd calm down all over town!
Bubba: If I were a woman, I'd be a slut. A lesbian slut.
3:31 PM
We love gay men. We love sluty gay men and gay men in love.
most (but not all, so don't jump all over me) want Jake to be seen as bisexual so they can say Reeke is real.
In the first Awful Truth Blind Item about TT, Ted described TT as Bisexual. Does anyone remember?
I do happen to think that J/R are in a more than friends relationship. What's wrong with that? I also think J/A (wer) involved and Jake (thought) about coming out as Bi, just as Ted wrote.
I also think Jake likes men. I think he likes women too. Is this so hard to believe. If he is totally gay, it would not bother me one bit. To each his own. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt though. He is a human being and from what I have seen, he seems to be one of those complexed people with many layers. Most Artistic people are this way. JMO
Right age? Isn't Ben 36?
Everyone guessed who TT is in the summer of 2005, 3 years ago.
^^Also, some here could not even fathom that Jake might be bisexual and like both sexes.
There is no chance in hell he is bi or straight, and they will fight to the end that he is gay.
Did anyone speak about these type of posters on this site. Because they are here!!
I can't believe that a bisexual woman (Amy Andre) with a master's degree in human sexuality studies from San Francisco State University concluded that Jack and Ennis are bi.
WHY?
Because she should know how terribly hard it must have been to be gay in rural America 50 years ago and how few options did men like Jack and Ennis had.
In the first Awful Truth Blind Item about TT, Ted described TT as Bisexual. Does anyone remember?
Yes, but later Ted changed his mind.
I also think Jake likes men. I think he likes women too. Is this so hard to believe.
No, a lot of gay men like women.
anon 4:19 I understand and respect your views, but this is a person who studied human sexuality and who is an admitted bisexual. I think she can see the traits, signs. I understand the person who posted earlier about the
2 males being more in love with each other as oppose to their wives, but the male who is more emotionally and phsically in love with his wife but has occasional same sex is labeled Gay also. My point...
There are more pictures of Natalie's white nose. If anyone's interested, check out the pictures at the Venice photocall:
Photocall
^^Also, some here could not even fathom that Jake might be bisexual and like both sexes.
Jake behaves like a gay celebrity (bearding), there is so much gay rumors about him. Why should I think he's bi?
(No, a lot of gay men like women.)
ok, lol, you are obviously gay and never had a sexual iterest or desire in a woman.
Is this fair to say?? lol
Why is it so important whether he's gay or bi? He is a Hollywood celeb, he fucks everything like most of them, no matter what orientation. They are too rich, they have too much time on their hands and we definitely care too much about those overpaid brats. I know I do, unfortunately.
I understand the person who posted earlier about the 2 males being more in love with each other as oppose to their wives, but the male who is more emotionally and phsically in love with his wife but has occasional same sex is labeled Gay also.
Jack and Ennis weren't physically in love with their wifes, their wifes were substitutes for what they couldn't have.
Read 2:11 PM post, there are few 21st century married closeted gay men stories.
He is a Hollywood celeb, he fucks everything like most of them, no matter what orientation.
*clears throat*
Jake is a bottom.
They are too rich, they have too much time on their hands and we definitely care too much about those overpaid brats. I know I do, unfortunately.
LOL well said, well said. I really need a life.
Thing is, I'm a very busy person with lots do do, but Make time to talk about this. CRAZYYYYY
1:45, Jake and Natalie in Gr Villge, on the day he bought her tulips. photo much discussed at the time; they were kidding around and APPEARED they might be mocking two gay men, crossing the street ahead of them but conclusion was that could not possibly be.
I have always thot Jake gay but not knowing how to work the H'wood gay world that he said on Jonathan R show was "a diff'rent world" from his. very int'resting.
anon 4:42, I was not talking about Jake and Ennis. Speaking in general, not about BBM.
I remember those pics, thanks 4:48 PM. I too can't imagine Jake and Natalie mocking gay men.
ok, lol, you are obviously gay and never had a sexual iterest or desire in a woman.
Don't forget that we're discussing closeted gay men, wen who hide their true feelings and sexuality.
Thing is, I'm a very busy person with lots do do, but Make time to talk about this. CRAZYYYYY
We just can't quit Jake for whatever reason.
ok, lol, you are obviously gay and never had a sexual iterest or desire in a woman.
Don't forget that we're discussing closeted gay men, men who hide their true feelings and sexuality.
There are more pictures of Natalie's white nose.
We are going to have a ball promoting Brothers! Wooo-hooo!
from conversations Ive had with gay men who were not "out" in their early years, you dont have to have sexual desire or interest in a woman to "marry" and perform.
same gay friends have said f/m sex is nothing compared to the electricy of what they actually desire.
in bbmt film ennis effing alma is triggered by his thots of Jack Twist.
but what do I know? Im not a gay male.
We are going to have a ball promoting Brothers! Wooo-hooo!
If we're to believe Ted, Jakey poo is also fond of the white powder.
I'm a bad, bad boy, I need to be punished. Please?
Daniel Radcliffe Wants to Wear a Dress
Daniel Radcliffe would like to, as gender-bender boys like to say, hide his candy. The 19-year-old Brit, who has made an almost lifelong career playing Harry Potter, says he wouldn't mind doing some cross-dressing on the big screen.
"I think part of me would love to play a drag queen," Radcliffe says in the new issue of Details magazine, "just because it would be an excuse to wear loads of eye makeup."
That's not the only thing Mr. Radcliffe reveals... He tells writer Chris Norris that he celebrated turning 16 (Britain's age of consent) with an older girlfriend. While it doesn't sound like a Demi and Ashton situation—Radcliffe insists the age difference "wasn’t ridiculous"—he does admit "it would freak some people out."
Radcliffe hits Broadway later this month to star in Equus. And yes, he'll be onstage eight times a week baring his full frontal just as he did in the original London production. When asked if he's ever been in therapy like Alan Strang, the psych patient he plays in Equus, Radcliffe boasts, "Please. No. Never. I've been pretty happy. I've got a great family. We're a very tight-knit group—we work very well as a team and as a tribe. I owe it to that."
Even the craziness of Harry Potter hasn't caused him any child star angst. "For the most part I've been happy every single day," Radcliffe insists. "And all the times I've been unhappy, it's never been anything to do with Potter. It's just been the normal, boring teenage crap. Insecurities, acne—all the normal stuff."
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_malkin/b26846_daniel_radcliffe_wants_wear_dress.html
^^^
For the multimillionaire teen, wealth's greatest luxury is not material but creative. This means roles in carefully selected films: He was in the Australian coming-of-age movie December Boys and the World War I drama My Boy Jack and has recently been attached to a film about the British photojournalist Dan Eldon, who was killed in Somalia in 1993. I ask him about other dream parts: Super-villain? Terrorist? Sex fiend? "I think part of me would love to play a drag queen," Radcliffe says, "just because it would be an excuse to wear loads of eye makeup."
This is what I think. I think Bristol Palin is not pregnant. Her current "pregnancy" erases the possibility of her being the true mother of Trig, conveniently. I suspect she will marry the father and then have a "miscarriage" before the general election, cue sympathy vote for stress to Sarah Palin's family brought on by evil Democrats. It's almost Rove-ian in detail.
For the hundredth time, Ted never said that TT is bisexual. What he said is that TT wanted to come out as bisexual. Two very different things. And in the very first TT post Ted said that in the future TT would prefer his significant others be in the male category.
Even the silly fanfiction about Jake having orgies in Morocco.
SILLY? You think my life of fiction is SILLY? You think that dressing up in costumes and ROLE-PLAYING for $$$ is silly? You think pretending to be a prince and taking steroids and getting nose jobs and employing a personal muscle stylist and being AMBIGUOUS about relationships and having paps on speed dial and making STRATEGIC coffee runs is SILLY?
Bite your tongue, fool. My orgies in Morocco are the LEAST silly things I do.
For the hundredth time, Ted never said that TT is bisexual. What he said is that TT wanted to come out as bisexual. Two very different things. And in the very first TT post Ted said that in the future TT would prefer his significant others be in the male category.
For the hundredth time for who?
You read it your way, and I will read it mine, fair enough. afterall that's what's been going on right from the start. Readers misunderstand and or read into his bi's something totally different from another poster. Happens all the time. Since, TT had a girlfriend before he met the male friend and continued it until the breakup, seems ok to me that TT would, and can consider himself bi. So it seem he was dating or dealing with both during the same time span. Unless TT's relationship with said girlfriend was not real from the start. It seems that most here think it was, that includes me. Not saying that it was or wasn't. I don't know, I was not with them. (but boy would I love to have been in the middle)And I don't believe in (baby gate) or babytile!!
After all this time and all the clues, I simply don't understand how anyone still thinks Jake may not be Toothy. Ted has practically said Jake is Toothy in plain english, even using J. G. today, yet doubters remain. Incredible.
Because only an icon of unavailing masculinity could be worthy of Reese, icon of feminine perfection.
TT is 36 now ?
^a poster on OMG figured out that “right age and acting oeuvre” means that both Ben and Jake started acting when they were kids at around the same age (11 years old) and they have the same type of career (both movie actors)
So it seem he was dating or dealing with both during the same time span. Unless TT's relationship with said girlfriend was not real from the start.
Remember Neil Patrick Harris and his girlfriends? A lot of closeted gay men date girls.
"...give J.G. a kick in her softer spots, which, of course, don't exist"
I think Ted is implying Jake has no balls
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