Australian diver Matthew Mitcham won gold in the men's 10m platform event at the Beijing Olympics.
July 2, 2008
In August, diver Matthew Mitcham will become the first openly-gay Australian to compete in an Olympic Games.
In many ways, Matthew Mitcham is just your regular 20-year-old gay guy.
He lives in inner Sydney, he has a boyfriend, his favourite club is Arq. He loves to watch The Simpsons, Futurama and Queer As Folk. His favourite music is by The Presets, Kate Miller-Heidke and Missy Higgins.
But Matthew Mitcham is not your regular 20-year-old gay guy.
Not only is he an elite member of Australia’s Olympic diving team, but last month he became headline news around the world.
The reason? For being gay.
A casual remark to a journalist during an interview with The Sydney Morning Herald led to a flurry of international publicity. The Herald put Mitcham on its front page. In Britain, national daily newspaper The Independent carried an article under the headline ‘Gay diver breaks Australian sporting taboo’.
Respected British daily The Guardian, rarely interested in Antipodean affairs, chimed in with an opinion piece asserting that while “Australia is an enlightened place these days, Australian sport, on the other hand, is not.” Mitcham had committed “a brave act indeed by coming out”, it said.
But the person at the centre of it all sees things differently.
Speaking to SX during a break from training at the Sydney Aquatic Centre in Homebush, Matthew Mitcham is nonplussed by all the fuss.
“It’s not really a big deal,” he says. “It’s not like I’m a different person. It’s not like I was straight before. So nothing really has changed.”
In fact, Mitcham doesn’t even agree that he ‘came out’ last month.
“I came out years ago. All that happened recently was that I was doing an interview with the Herald and there was a pretty innocuous question, ‘Who do I live with?’ and I just said ‘my partner Lachlan’. And the journalist was really excited – she thought it was absolutely wonderful!”
While Mitcham, who came out to friends and family at age fourteen (Mum’s reaction: “Well, duh!”), doesn’t see his sexuality a big deal, he’s not naïve about his position as Australia’s highest-profile out gay sportsman. He’s aware that other people do see it as “a big deal” and he’s happy to wear the mantle of ‘role model’ for young gay guys.
“Being in my position, it’s inevitable,” he concedes. “There’s not really much choice. If someone looks up to you, then you’re a role model. And I’m happy with that. I just hope I do a good job – I’m not perfect!”
He certainly bears the markings of a good gay role model: he’s successful, attractive and he’s not shy about speaking up on queer issues. When asked for his view on same-sex marriage, for instance, he has no compunction slamming Prime Minister Kevin Rudd.
“I’m not happy with Kevin Rudd,” he says, bluntly. “Kevin Rudd’s opinion of marriage as something that’s only between a man and a woman is quite narrow-minded. During the election campaign he was all about appearing young and cool, but his views on gay marriage make him look quite old-fashioned.”
Similarly, Mitcham doesn’t hold back when quizzed about criticism of his ‘coming out’. When the Herald story was initially published, this journalist overheard two women on a train explaining to each other’s satisfaction why it was ‘ridiculous’. “Why don’t heterosexuals come out as straight?” harrumphed one. “They’re just obsessed with their sexuality,” sneered the other. I ask Mitcham for his response to this line of thinking.
“That’s a really uneducated, unworldly view,” he replies. “And you know what? Straight people talk about their sexuality all the time. They talk about the opposite sex, they talk about their wives, their husbands, their marriage. Those are all heterosexual discourses, and they do talk about them all the time. So those ladies didn’t think their comments through very well.”
But of course, gay politics is not Mitcham’s primary focus right now. He’s under a punishing training schedule ahead of the Beijing Olympic Games, where he hopes to bring back gold for Australia in the ten-metre platform and three-metre springboard events.
He’s already won gold this year at the 2008 Diving Grand Prix in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.
“All my energy is focused on Beijing right now,” says a tenacious Mitcham. “I’ve been diving since I was eleven, so it’s been nine years of work leading up to this.”
Whether he brings back the gold or not, something tells me we’ll be hearing a lot more of Matthew Mitcham.
Source: Making a splash by Peter Hackney
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 524 Newer› Newest»And in the same breath will quickly post, but I think Jake and Kirsten was real, not like Reese. LOL Some posters here are confused.
Jake cheated on Kirsten with boys because he's gay.
The fact that you are able to name him as a gay actor means that he has. He's out and proud and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks.
That's good, but where is the improvement? Are gay actors better accepted by Hollywood and general public?
Jake cheated on Kirsten with boys because he's gay.
Well, I'm one who believes that men can and are bisexual just as pretty blondes with silicon. Some seem to think they are the only ones who can be bi. To the poster above: anon 11:33 Are you saying men can not be bi, or just (Jake can't) be bi?
should be (can be and are bisexual)^^
Sir Ian McKellen:
McKellen made his stage debut in Coventry in 1961 and his West End debut in 1964. His first film role — in the unfinished The Bells of Hell Go Ting-A-Ling-A-Ling (1966) — produced a £4000 fee that helped fund his repertory work for a time, but the experience contributed to a focus on the stage,[12] which remained the medium he was best known for well into the fourth decade of his career.
The role that made McKellen famous was his 1969 portrayal of King Edward II of England in the Prospect Theatre Company's touring production of Marlowe's Edward II.[8] The production was controversial for its explicit torture scenes and implicit homosexuality.
In 1988 [he was 49], he came out as gay and became a founding member of Stonewall, one of the United Kingdom's most influential LGBT rights groups, of which he remains a prominent spokesman.
To the poster above: anon 11:33 Are you saying men can not be bi, or just (Jake can't) be bi?
No one said that men can't be bi.
Bi man with a female partner can be happy and content with hetero sex. Gay man can't.
No one said that men can't be bi.
Bi man with a female partner can be happy and content with hetero sex. Gay man can't.
^^so you think that Jake and Kirsten's relationship was not real?
I think it was real.
A lot of young and closeted gay men date girls. Relationships are real, but never fully satisfying.
Bi man with a female partner can be happy and content with hetero sex.
Content for how long?
Jake cheated on Kirsten with boys because he's gay.
Jake is boring now. It's Toothy Tile who is interesting. That's why this blog is about Waiting for Toothy.
Bi man with a female partner can be happy and content with hetero sex.
Content for how long?
A month or a lifetime, depends how much love is there.
DL:
"In real life the "beard" often doesn't know she is a beard. The man marries her, has occasional sex with her and lives a sham of a marriage. He goes out and has dangerous sex in public parks. He has two straight sons and one gay one (me.) Then he gets arrested for soliciting a male prostitute who is really an undercover cop. His wife's life is destroyed. He becomes an outcast. He drinks and eventually destroys his liver. He dies before he reaches 50."
May 11, 2007
T.R. Knight: I Was Told Not to Come Out
Before Grey's Anatomy star T. R. Knight came out to PEOPLE last year, some advised him not to do it, he says in a new interview. While friends were "beautifully supportive," Knight, 34, tells The Advocate in its June 19 issue, others cautiously advised him, "Don't do it – don't do it now." Looking back, he says, "I remember saying to someone when I got one of those 'don't do it' [comments] – I just remember hearing my voice being calm and saying, 'No, it's going happen. It's going to happen. I'm just letting you know.' "
Ultimately, he's glad he decided to come out after castmate Isaiah Washington referred to him on-set by a homophobic slur. "I made the decision to make a statement," he says. "I could have not [spoken up]. I could have retreated. But I'm definitely happy I made the decision." (Washington has since apologized.) Knight told PEOPLE in a statement in October: "I guess there have been a few questions about my sexuality, and I'd like to quiet any unnecessary rumors that may be out there. While I prefer to keep my personal life private, I hope the fact that I'm gay isn't the most interesting part of me."
Since coming out, Knight, who plays the unassuming Dr. George O'Malley on the hit ABC drama, has seen his character marry Dr. Callie Torres (Sara Ramirez) and bed fellow M.D.'s Meredith Grey (Ellen Pompeo) and Izzie Stevens (Katherine Heigl).
Off camera, Heigl is a close friend, but she says he came out to her gradually. "There came a point where we were close enough friends that he would just talk about dates or about other guys," she tells The Advocate. "I wasn't shocked or surprised. ... It was more just like, 'Oh, okay, now I know why you don't want to go out with me.' "
But Knight, who is single ("Not that I've had the most successful dating experiences," he says) insists coming out hasn't much affected his love life. He says with a laugh that he still assumes people aren't interested in him, but notes: "Too much aggression isn't a good thing either."
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20038579,00.html
8/29/08, 5:32 I see the light for once.
"Here's the old Ben Affleck-Jennifer Garner TT clue (from the TT archive) March 17, 2005
Dear Ted:
Could Toothy Tile from One Adorable Blind Vice be Ben Affleck, aka Mr. Jennifer? Hmmm...über-perfect girlfriend with "doable dimples." I haven't heard they broke up, but I wouldn't be surprised.
J.T.
Dear John Travolta:
Kidding! Although I s'pose it could be you? Regardless, excellent guess, initialed one! But, wrong, I must add. However, you are very close to the real semi-randy one--just think better hair (all his own) and a tad less brawn."
The initials are B A J G. Ted says excellent guess intitialed one. Jakes intitials are J B G. Jacob Benjamin Gyllenhaal. Very close indeed.
How did I miss this one?
February 19, 2006
Dear Ted:
Honey, pull back on the Madonna ass kissing. She never was and never will be Cher!
Mike, a true fag
Dear Genuine Fruit:
What, so I'm imitation fagola? There's room for at least three gay icons in my book, just as long as we include Jake Gyllenhaal, 'kay? (For that spittle love scene alone!)
Spittle love scene? Did he mean the scene in BBM, the second tent scene?
The initials are B A J G.
Jacob Benjamin Gyllenhaal & Austin.
2:58 Yeah.
"ITA. Jake's pain is worse, his grief is worse. gag."
I remember that article. I think it was pretty tasteless to allude something like that just to sell the magazine. While I think Jake was very upset, he didn't know Heath that long and I doubt they saw each other that much after summer 2006. Jake didn't even think it was necessary to honor him in some way like many others did, even his exes. Of course Heath's family and very close pals were hit the hardest and I think they'll never entirely recover for the rest of their lifes, while Jake was ready for photo ops with Reese just days after.
2:58 Yeah.
I see. It was a great scene. ;)
Spittle love scene?
Spittle can be the reference to both tent love scenes, but Ted is a gay man so I think he meant the first one.
Jake didn't even think it was necessary to honor him in some way like many others did, even his exes.
No, Jake avoided everything that had to do with Heath because he wanted to "protect" his image from any associations with him, not because he thought it was unnecessary. It's pretty obvious it was an intentional PR move. So instead of acting like a decent human being he avoided Heath like plague during those months while attaching his name to Greasy Reesey. Well I hope he's happy now that his image is clearly so much better because of his lovely behavior. /end sarcasm
oh I think the second one cause they were really exchanging bodily fluids. Heath spittin' in his hand proved nothin' rather than that Ang Lee was willing to film the first mainstream anal sex scene that was presented as "normal" (no instruction book needed, said Annie Prouxl), Marlon Brando and butter was perceived and I think meant as violent/nonconsensual.
I think while Im thinking on it that the FNIT was effing stunning. Maybe that's why the Christian fundie babe from Alaska wants to clean up the the USA as was done by the family/fidelity/fecundity babblers on DC. man THAT was nasty but I guess we ain't seein' nothin' yet.
cheerleaders and beauty queens dont effin' give up.
hey Im nervous.
ITA 3:21. I said earlier in the game that the Jonathan interview creeped me out, made a chill run down my spine and somebody asked why but I didnt respond because it seems obvious to me. A choice had been made. I'd love to know when.
oh I think the second one cause they were really exchanging bodily fluids.
I think Ted was more impressed with the first tent scene.
cheerleaders beauty queens mormon sex slaves etc. and others that hate sex.
3:27 well who wasnt as someone said it was the f--- heard round the world.
I think while Im thinking on it that the FNIT was effing stunning.
I agree, it was incredibly raw and honest. You don't get to see that often in films.
I said earlier in the game that the Jonathan interview creeped me out, made a chill run down my spine ...
I still don't get it. What's obvious?
Who's spit was it, Jake's or Heath's in SNIT? Or was it a combination of both? Either way, it was hot.
^^^ Jake's..... I think.
^^^ Jake's..... I think.
Perhaps. It was a very intimate kiss. I think both enjoyed it. :)
Whose saliva? well who knows, that's the thrill - boys exchanging body fluids, who cares whose? man!
The Jonathan interview. It was the first time Jake said, "I'm straight." without the "of course if it happens I wont be afraid of it. . : clause - despite he added "at this point in my career." When he turned to the band and said: "sorry guys" my heart broke. And my response was: the fucker's sold his soul.
This, followed by carrying Reese piggyback in Rome - ! ! ! FUCK as Danny dV likes to cry out.
I know I would have enjoyed kissing Heath and Jake. I bet Heath was a great lover. You know him being wild and so full of energy...
Perhaps. It was a very intimate kiss. I think both enjoyed it. :)
My thoughts as well, I mean why wouldn't they? They were both very hot guys, right and I think they both had same sex experiences before.
I think they both had same sex experiences before.
I think so too, maybe one more (Jake), the other less (Heath). ;)
4:01 Yes, exactly.
"I bet Heath was a great lover. You know him being wild and so full of energy..."
Oh yeah....
I agree that Heath was surely a good lover! he had "soul" as well as beauty and sensuality and joy.
It was the first time Jake said, "I'm straight." without the "of course if it happens I wont be afraid of it. . . clause
But Jake did say "at this point":
"In London to attend the premiere of his film Rendition, Jake Gyllenhaal appeared on Friday Night with Jonathan Ross to talk about that film as well as Brokeback Mountain. Gyllenhaal joked to Ross that he swims to England and back rather than take a plane in order to help the environment. He also talked a bit about his love life and let it be known that "at this point" in his career it matters who gets his romantic attention.
ROSS: Before you go, let me ask you a question on behalf of many of the ladies in the audience perhaps the band as well here? Are you a single man?
GYLLENHAAL: On behalf of which, the band or the ladies?
ROSS: With your career, does it matter Jake?
GYLLENHAAL: At this point, yes. On behalf of the ladies, I'm single. On behalf of the band, i'm not.
http://www.towleroad.com/2007/10/jake-gyllenha-1.html
4:14 PM
ITA plus he was very creative.
yeah he was really effin' creative, as usual.
yeah jbg you're so effin' creative, too bad Disney owns your ass for - how long?
JBG's ass is mine.
Oh fuck off, Georgie boy! JBG'S sweet ass belongs to ME.
"Spittle love scene? Did he mean the scene in BBM, the second tent scene?"
Um, no. The first scene where Ennis spits on his hand as lube.
February 16, 2007
A look back at the boys from "Oz"
All of this ugliness involving a certain homophobic former NBA player has me in a bad mood. I need cheering up and if any of you do too, then I offer you these fun pictures that I came across the other day: actors Christopher Meloni and Lee Tergeson, who played lovers on the late, great prison drama "OZ." They appeared very close as they arrived at the 2000 GLAAD Awards then later, they seemed to be re-enacting some of their love scenes.
How nice to see these two terrific actors, who displayed such memorable on-screen chemistry, enjoying each other and not being at all uptight about playing gay on screen. Now, I want to know why Jake and Heath didn't behave this way at award shows last year! That might've added several millions to the gross of "Brokeback Mountain!"
Kiss pictures
Kiss video
gorgeous george? "the orchid"? no kidding! risen' from the dead to claim Jake's ass! settle down, cowboy.
5:05, I think Jake was willing, Heath not. and then somebody told Jake to cool it.
Now, I want to know why Jake and Heath didn't behave this way at award shows last year!
I knew they'd never do that. CM and LT or Sacha Cohan and Will Farell(sp?) can kiss that way on award shows, because they don't have feelings whatsoever for each other and when they kiss it means absolutely nothing, just to bring laughs. But it would have been different with Jake and Heath, I think there were feelings (espcially on Jake's part and Heath might have known it) and I think they never acted on it. Such a "joke kiss" would have been very awkward between them. Also, it would kinda mock the movie and I think no one involved in the film wanted that. That's how I see it, doesn't mean this is/was the case.
5.20 I agree, the feelings (I believe they existed too) and the very serious message bbm had made it very unlikely to happen.
Can you imagine the reaction they would've got? The media would've been all over their asses and I don't think either of them and their people wanted that.
Can you imagine the reaction they would've got? The media would've been all over their asses and I don't think either of them and their people wanted that.
IA.
Kevin Spacey, in a club in Croatia, playing with his young friend's naked ass.
Kevin and twink's ass 1
Kevin and twink's ass 2
Let's add to all this that Heath was very shy and awkward in front of cameras when he wasn't acting on a movie set. It's so obvious when you watch Heath in interviews or promoting his films, SO awkward most of the time.
5:41 PM, wow. How can anyone now deny that Kevin's gay or bi?
Well, you need to have some good explanation. For example:
"Kevin Spacey was clearly out walking his dog when a drunken bare-assed youth came running by and accidentally tripped over the leash. Miss Spacey was merely making sure that the poor Croatian twink was unhurt." [DL]
LOL, 5:50.
Spacey seen by many on gay beaches in E Hampton Long Island - no secret. I think in Gr Britain he is acknowledged as being gay. whatsa problem here?
whatsa problem here?
Kevin Spacey is still in the closet.
"Kevin Spacey was clearly out walking his dog when a drunken bare-assed youth came running by and accidentally tripped over the leash. Miss Spacey was merely making sure that the poor Croatian twink was unhurt." [DL]
loooool
oh. didnt know Spacey maintains he is straight.
September 18, 1997
Hollywood and Esquire in Privacy Dispute
Following an article in Esquire magazine that dealt with the sexuality of the actor Kevin Spacey, an executive at the William Morris talent agency announced yesterday that he would discourage his colleagues from cooperating with Esquire in the future. ''As the head of the motion picture talent department at the William Morris Agency, I will strongly advise all of the agents to dissuade their clients from doing interviews with Esquire as a result of their deceptive and fraudulent behavior with respect to their interview with Kevin Spacey,'' said Brian Gersh, Mr. Spacey's agent, in a statement.
The top talent agency, which represents Bruce Willis, Clint Eastwood and Bill Cosby, was responding to a cover article in this month's Esquire magazine about Mr. Spacey, an actor the agency represents who is perhaps best known for his role in the film ''The Usual Suspects,'' for which he won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor.
...
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E3DF1038F93BA2575AC0A961958260
Sept. 24, 1999
Kevin Spacey: Fighting back
...
On a more private front, Spacey has had to combat sly innuendo about his off-screen life, culminating in a 1997 Esquire magazine cover story that strongly implied that Spacey is gay. For an actor, such accusations strongly affect the type of roles being offered. It's not personal, it's business.
Spacey initially responded with a statement from his publicist calling the article "dishonest and malicious." Then he turned to a full slate of work, including several films, and the recent award-winning stage revival of The Iceman Cometh. However, he kept a low profile with the media, granting few interviews.
But this month, Spacey took off the gloves. In the current Playboy interview, he takes questions about the accusation and responds, "It's not true. It's a lie." And he goes on to explain that a co-worker's sexuality is of no interest to him, and shouldn't be to anyone else. But it affects an actor's livelihood.
"It would sure be great if it didn't matter," Spacey tells Playboy. "But it does." Spacey assumes the innuendos got started because "I'm not married and I won't talk about my private life, so it must mean I'm gay."
...
http://www.rochestergoesout.com/mov/a/amesid.html
Is anyone else not looking forward to all the Reeke pictures in September when Jake comes back from filming PoP? Ugh.
Filming will continue in London.
Filming will continue in London.
And who'll visit him there again?
The fauxmance doesn't run itself.
thanks 7:28 and 32 int'resting
I don't know why I care anymore. I came to the conclusion that Jake is a very ambituous young man who wants to make it big in Hollywood. Now, he's either bearding to disguise his homosexuality or he thinks having a high profile Hollywood actress gf will raise his profile as well. I think many actions of his showed that he is very worried about image, this "sorrow" even prevented him to do the "right things". I'm disappointed.
I was very obsessed with Jake, I guess that makes it harder to quit him, but I'll try harder.
... or he thinks having a high profile Hollywood actress gf will raise his profile as well.
Jake is not stupid nor naive.
Jake is not stupid nor naive.
I hope so.
" Of course if it happens , I would'nt be afraid of it"
What's suppose to "happen"? Was Jake lying? Is he afraid to come out? I do bleive at one time he was going to. I thought I was seeing a genuine person. ( what I saw of him in various interveiws anyhow), but I guess in HW no one's above pretense when it comes to the money making business of Hollywood..
I guess image is everything even when people know, or strongly suspect the truth about private lives. For young, hot actors like Jake, they become experts at verbally skirting that truth.
All summer, I've been hoping against hope that Reeke would use the to much time apart excuse to finally end Reeke. But, after the Dog Walking photo shoot by Reese, seems like that won't ever happen. I'm already ready to barf at the thought of the photo shoots Reeke will have when Jake gets back to LA for that 3 week break. It'll be the endless coffee run.
A question to gay men here. Is it possible to be together with an Ennis Del Mar in real life without the woman noticing that the man you're together with is gay? Again, a men who is secretly gay or bisexual, prefering men a lot more though, can this man be with women with them not noticing it during sex or so?
Is this possible?
Is he afraid to come out?
Of course he's afraid to come out.
Kevin Spacey is 49, has 2 Oscars and is afraid to come out.
It'll be the endless coffee run.
You forgot shopping! lol
He ain't never coming out.
((Bi man with a female partner can be happy and content))
^^if you can't be it, you gotta stand it.
for how long?
^^ Aint no raines on this one!
Remember the beautiful night scene by the creek. These were not Ennis's Words but:
This is What Ennis REALLY MEANT!
Is it possible to be together with an Ennis Del Mar in real life without the woman noticing that the man you're together with is gay?
"The movie "Brokeback Mountain" turned a spotlight on gay men who lead double lives, having sex with other men while they are married to women. But that film only scratched the surface of their wives' miserable experience. When I saw the movie, I started to cry as I watched Ennis, the young cowboy played by Heath Ledger, wed his sweetheart even though he'd been involved with another man. I wanted to scream: "It is such a lie! Don't do it!" My mind flashed back to my own wedding day, when I was the virgin bride standing before family, friends and a minister. I had no idea what I was getting myself into.
This kind of union happens more often than people may think; research done by University of Chicago sociologist Edward Laumann, Ph.D., estimated that between 1.5 million and 2.9 million American women who have ever been married had a husband who had had sex with another man. That means there are a large number of women who have no idea what their husband does in secret."
'I married a gay man'
Jakey baby,
I know your reading all this crap about me and Pitt in Venice, but it's all for show. Some are even calling him my *date*. You know how these things work. Pitt and I are promoting this film we're in, you understand. It's only business. Please don't be upset with me.. I'll be back in your arms again soon, ...I hope.. no, I promise. You, of all people should know we "artists" do what we have to do in this business, I know your very upset with me right now ,and I remember that night you once told me I was a good *bad *boy. but my heart belongs to you and you alone.
Love,
your dearest Georgie C.
Thank you 9:27 and 9:30. It's really interesting to me that gay men are able to have sex with women, even if they prefer the opposite sex. Obviously it's possible.
It's awful that still so many have to live a lie. I wish our society wasn't so closeminded in this day and age.
Married Man Seeks Same for Discreet Play
He has a loving wife, a small child—and sex with men on the side. How the Internet has made it easier than ever to lead a detection-proof double life
...
Soon he was pushing 30, that pestering age when you have to admit your adolescence is officially over, when people start pressuring you, even indirectly, to settle down, and then you start convincing yourself that, yes, settling down is what you sincerely want. One night he was set up on a date through friends with a woman I’ll call Lisa. This was not an unusual event in itself. He had dated numerous women, though the relationships tended to end after a few months. What was different about Lisa? “I’m not good at explaining it,” says William. “You know how love is. It doesn’t really make sense. It’s complicated and simple. I loved her.” The attraction, he says, was immediate and visceral and, though he continued to see men, he could imagine, or convinced himself he could, a monogamous life with her. Soon his parents started making remarks. “All your friends are married—when’s it your turn?” his mother got in the habit of saying, half-joking, half-serious, the way mothers can be. After a year and half, William asked Lisa to be his wife.
“Did you believe,” I ask, “that was the end of your life with men?”
“I did,” he says. “I honestly did.”
...
Married Man Seeks Same for Discreet Play
^^anon 9:15, interesting you posted your question. I was just thinking about Ennis and Jack. I am anon 9:27.
I am gay, used to date women, was involved with women and men on the side and I don't think the (2)women knew. I know it was wrong, but it was years ago and was a part of my learning, growing, and my story.
I'm openly gay now to the important people in my life.
But: I do know men who date women and have sex with men on the side. I know of married men with children who love the wife and family who secretly have sex with men. I know of a close friend who was married with children who dated men. Most of our friends thought the wife knew. My buddy did not think so. She knew his partners as his friends (buddies). She was a very laidback type of person who did not cause friction.
I had a strong feeling she knew just as the feeling I first felt about Jake when he portrayed Jack. There was something about this guy playing Jack. Could not put my finger on it. BTW, my good friend is separted from his wife and living as single now.
Sorry, should have been: If you can't (beat) it, you have to stand it.
Thanks for sharing your story 9:49.
“Did you believe,” I ask, “that was the end of your life with men?”
“I did,” he says. “I honestly did.”
hummm, been there. It's a rude awakening though.
My opinion is Jake is a bi man who likes bothe sexes, I think men more, but maybe women. He's just hiding it just as "MOST" bisexual men do, HW celebrity or NOT!
ITA
"No trailer, no movie stills, no poster ... what buzz?"
Well, exactly. That was what I was wondering. I find it really strange that no PR has started for this film. It's not even at Toronto.
Do these men see themselves as gay, straight or bi? I don't like labels, but i still feel the deception is wrong. Are'nt they taking a choice away from the woman who marries them? Common sense and honesty is still the best policy IMHO. It's not something you only realize in your thirties. Sexual orientation towards the same sex tends to show itself earlier than the age of thirty.
It's a concious choice.It's no different than cheating with the "other woman". What I call having his cake, and eating it too as long a he does'nt get caught.. When it's concensual and the woman accepts bi-sexuality in her man, that's fine and that's her choice, but she should know this going in. Many women find out 5 yrs and two children later that she is sharing without consent ,trust me.
Why marry a woman when you know you'd rather be with a man? The world did'nt end when NPH and TR Knight were honest and true to themselves.
I know your reading all this crap about me and Pitt in Venice, but it's all for show.
Oh, spank me George. I'm tired of your fairy tales. I know you've been petting Pitt's pweenis all along. I'm getting me some real badass action.
Mr Bale, yoooooohooooo.
Got your message babe. Your a bad boy Jakeypoo, and in definite need of punishment, , but I'm stunned. You want *Garage Sale Bale..?* that James Bond wannabe? Yoo Hoo IS his drink of choice my little naive honeybuns!..I invited him to lunch last week, and he showed up in a black cape and a mask with pointed ears. You might wanna rethink that *spanking". I realize you have needs but Christian *aka* the "pale rider" Bale? I hear he went *postal* on his own mother,for crissakes! Think about that. He has anger issues babe. A little night owl once told me with him?... It's easier to jump on than it is to jump off. Besides I look so much better in or out of a tux. I hear he rides good, but he can't decide if he's Bruce Wayne , "lil" Wayne, or John Wayne.
Alright, fuck it I'll come clean.. You fucking got me babe, I gave into Pitt's Pweeni's last night. I...well I can't exactly decribe what we did, ( like you'd wanna know) but when I woke up this morning , a small chimpanzee was sleeping peacefully between us with a little hat and bow tie with a large banana in it's mouth.. really now, that Pitt is a wild child, but Imagine trying to explain that one to the boy who brought our breakfast with any inkling of dignity.. Pitt said something about some trained animals from a circus act at the festival *getting loose*,and swears he has no idea how it got there.. but lemme tell ya, he's into some wild, freaky sex play. Says he's gone to return him, poor thing, but who knows. If only I could remember.. Needless to say the booze was flowing freely last night. Don't you dare repeat any of this to that creature "pale tail" Bale ,or that little pipsqweek penguin wannabe, DeVito. Can't have rumors about this gettin out to the press. The thought of them knowing that I might've... Oh gawd, I can't even say it. I need to have a long recall session with Pitt.. and a equally long shower, I'm very itchy right now. Don't say I did'nt warn ya about Bale babycakes.
When you come back to me after you sow your wild oats, I'll be ready, willing and definitly able to settle you down my little sweet prince. Till then, You keep my secrets, I'll keep yours kapish?
Foever yours,
Georgy Porgy
My opinion is Jake is a bi man who likes bothe sexes, I think men more, but maybe women.
LOL
My opinion is Jake is a bi man who likes bothe sexes, I think men more, but maybe women.
Straights just don't get it.
I know it was wrong, but it was years ago and was a part of my learning, growing, and my story.
I'm openly gay now to the important people in my life.
I'm glad to hear that 9:49 PM. Good luck!
^ wow, you really need to get over yourself. What's your problem with bisexuality?
^ that was for @ 7:14 AM, not 7:22 AM
Sorry 7:26 AM, but likes both sexes, I think men more, but maybe women is a joke.
I know you've been petting Pitt's pweenis all along. I'm getting me some real badass action. Mr Bale, yoooooohooooo.
LOL!
Jake The Masochist is going to be soooo disappointed, Mr Bale is the bottom.
'I married a gay man'
"Early in our relationship, Chris told me he'd had homosexual experiences as a teenager but assured me it was youthful curiosity. I didn't think there was anything wrong with being gay — I have an openly gay cousin. And I didn't care what went on behind others' closed doors. But I also didn't believe that a gay man would ever be attracted to a straight woman, and I was naive — too naive to see why a homosexual man would marry and spend years lying to his wife, his friends, his family and himself."
Do these men see themselves as gay, straight or bi?
They can't be straight. Having sex with men and women doesn't make someone bi, a lot of closeted gay men do it.
Bisexuality is often misunderstood as a form of adultery or polyamory, and a popular misconception is that bisexuals must always be in relationships with men and women simultaneously. Rather, individuals attracted to both males and females, like people of any other orientation, may live a variety of sexual lifestyles.
Why is it a joke, 7:33 AM? You're not explaining yourself very well.
9:14, I think some posters here don't want to consider the possiblity that Jake likes girls too.
9:14 AM
What would you say about "Jake is bi who likes women better"?
9:14, I think some posters here don't want to consider the possiblity that Jake likes girls too.
It is a possibility, but gossip and what we can see points towards gay.
No one said Jake likes women more, just that he likes women as well. Some people think he's bisexual! What is so wrong with thinking that?
Maybe Jake simply wants to keep his possibilities open? Maybe he was with Austin, now he's mabye with Reeese, who knows who'll be the next?
Reese seems to have turned him in an insensitive, selfish idiot though. Faux- or truemance, he picked up some of her bad attitudes. Proof to me a weakness in character.
No one said Jake likes women more...
11:23 AM thinks it's possible.
Maybe he was with Austin, now he's mabye with Reeese, who knows who'll be the next?
Extraterrestrials?
Sexuality is complicated. I'm a straight female, but once I was attracted to a woman. Years ago. It never happened again since then.
For me the fauxmance with Reese is a proof that Jake is gay.
Extraterrestrials?
LOL. I meant maybe he'll hook up with a man again?
11:23 AM thinks it's possible.
Well good for 11:23 AM then! I guess you'll have to take up your obvious misogyny with that poster.
Reeke is smoke and mirrors.
Reese seems to have turned him in an insensitive, selfish idiot though.
I'm sure Jake has been able to pick up those character traits all on his own. It's not like he was an angel before Reeke.
I guess you'll have to take up your obvious misogyny with that poster.
LOL!
In that case all who think Jake is gay or bi are quilty of misogyny because they claim that there is no way Jake could love only girls.
nobody here knows Jake personally, so all is speculation.
Although I believe people in Jake's inner circle know about the blogs and rumors and some "may" give out info at times.
I really think that most who can't or won't consider that Jake's sexuality and attraction (can be with women and men) are mostly gay and have always known they were gay from an early age, and who have never been attracted to, or had sex with the opposite sex.
There are so many others who have had just one experience with the same sex, some occasional, you call it what you want to, but some peoples sexuality is very fluid. There is nothing wrong if someone, including Jake likes or have a sexual interest in both sexes.
Of course it can open the door to alot of interesting (good or bad) situation in the persons life, but they will have to deal with it.
The problem is when
(gay people) become just as rigid and judgemental as the general public.
A question for those who think Jake is bi: do you believe that closeted gay men date and have sex with women?
A question for those who think Jake is bi: do you believe that closeted gay men date and have sex with women?
Of course they do, but fact is, we don't know if Jake is a closeted gay man or a man who enjoyes sex and relationships with men and women, even if it's with women like this awful, pretentious Reese Witherspoon.
Sorry 10:29 AM, but if you think that Jake looks like a man who enjoyes sex and relationship with Reese then your opinion isn't worth much.
Of course they do, but fact is, we don't know ...
That's not the point, we KNOW we are speculating. You have an opinion, we are discussing our opinions, not the absolute truth.
That's not the point, we KNOW we are speculating. You have an opinion, we are discussing our opinions, not the absolute truth.
Who here claims to know the truth?
If Jake is really into women and in all of Holloywood, the best he can come up with to date is the most phony, pretenious, OCD filled and bitchy Reese Witherspoon, then maybe he really should consider being gay.
Who here claims to know the truth?
Babblers.
Babblers and trolls.
Babblers.
They do, but not one of the posters here said they knew anything for a fact.
Who here claims to know the truth?
No one, so there is no reason to keep repeating "fact is, we don't know if Jake is...".
A question for those who think Jake is bi: do you believe that closeted gay men date and have sex with women?
When it's concensual and the woman accepts bi-sexuality in her man, that's fine and that's her choice, but she should know this going in.
Most women wouldn't accept homosexuality, so gay men choose to pretend and hope for the best.
I'm curious said...
A question for those who think Jake is bi: do you believe that closeted gay men date and have sex with women?
Anything is possible. Everyone is different. There is NO norm.
George, talk to the hand. "Pretend" is your middle name. Spanking the monkey and pearl jammin' Pitt is just the tip of your kinkalicious rubber-wearing, fruit-fuckin', candlewax-drippin', chocolate-porin', roped, handcuffed, blindfolded and banned-in-30 states type of sex.
I know you've also been paddling the Penguin's pickle. That crusty old batsuit of yours still gets some senior citizen action. Nice nips, by the way.
So Señor Bale has anger issues. This is a flaw?
Come to papa, big pale bat! You can power bottom me upside down in your cave all night long.
LOL
Oh my, such interesting cases!
When my mom watched Brokeback, she said Jake pinged for her. I don't know how accurate her gaydar is. I don't know how accurate mine is. I know when I watched Heath in Four Feathers he pinged for me. I know most here think he is straight or bi curious or just experimented. I think he was a troubled young man, some of it may have had something to do with his sexuality.
Married Man Seeks Same for Discreet Play
Reader's comments:
I totally understand WIlliam. Though, I was taught it was wrong, I two have a double life. I am 46 and now I am ready to make a switch. I want it. I need it. Will I do it? Ah, that is the million dollar question. I do not have kids, but I hate the idea of hurting my wife. She is a wonderful woman. I just wish I loved her the way she deserves to have a man love his wife. I would kill for her, but the idea of sleeping with her, is not there. But she has a drop dead body. She is truly beautiful. I have screwed her life up and mine. We have been together 18 years. I thought marriage would take care of these desires. I was just horny for sex. HA I now know, it is the way you are borned. If I could stop this I would. I really would.
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I too can relate to William. Just change the setting to small town central Nebraska. Anyone that doesn't believe we love our wives is running off of emotion. My wife is very important to me, not to mention the mother of my sons. Should I have done things differently? Yes. Would I change things if I could? No, because I can't imagine a life without my sons. I'll continue to live a double life as long as I am able to.
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As a wife, who thinks it is quite possible that my husband is also living a double life, I found this article very engaging. The comments William makes about the truth not helping are thoughts I know my husband would voice. All I want is the truth... The truth means everything to me and I need my husband to tell it to me. The worst thing is when you put the pieces together, and in the meantime the hubby just keeps spinning the same old lie. While the truth may not set William free it will set his wife free. It would allow her to simply be able to make an intelligent decision. Now that’s what you call being real.
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I am getting obsessed with these stories as I have found out about my husband, and he does not know I know. We are getting divorced, he asked. I know some of it has to do with his seeking sex with men. I have seen all his Craigslist entries and it is just frightening, and it goes back years. Years ago I did not know what M4M meant and glossed over it. Now I know and I've put the pieces together. This article shadowed my husband so much, it was scary. I truly believe this behavior is extremely prevalent in many married men. I truly believe that Internet/Craigslist gave license to men to carry out acts that otherwise would've remained as fantasy. It is just too easy...so easy to meet a stranger for an hour, not even speak! and carry out a fantasy sex act. So quick, you can deny to yourself it even happened. And since there were no witnesses, other than your own consciece, you can "delete" it. 20/20 should do a show on this....I'd be willing to add my 2 cents!
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I sympatize with this man as a fellow sufferer. I, too, have found in later life my latent gayness, which I have suppressed all through my adult life.
12:05 - Leo DiCaprio and Jodie Foster pinged for me too, even before I found out about the rumors about Leo and Jodie's relationship with a woman. My gaydar or bidar perhaps isn't so inaccurate.
When my mom watched Brokeback, she said Jake pinged for her.
Writer Tom Junod who interviewed actor Kevin Spacey for Esquire:
"I guess in the beginning [the story] talks about my mother outing him.
Did your mother really make that comment?
Yes. I had talked to a bunch of people about Kevin, and the question of his sexuality was always Topic A, never Topic B or C. Finally I told my mom I was doing this story, and she said, "Kevin Spacey? I hear he's gay." I cracked up, because it had reached a point of absurdity. I thought I could write about this with some sort of humor."
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_n745/ai_20789563
I know when I watched Heath in Four Feathers he pinged for me.
Really? I thought I was the only one who thought that. He seems kind of androgynous in the first part and there's also something really delicate about him throughout the whole movie. Maybe that's why I like the film even though most people don’t, eh?
That being said I think he genuinely liked women, but that doesn't mean he didn't like boys a little too. Who knows?
That being said I think he genuinely liked women, but that doesn't mean he didn't like boys a little too. Who knows?
ITA.
Kirsten Dunst kissing a girl
It wasn't only Jake who looked at Heath in a particular way most of the time, Mr. Crow did the same:
Heath and Russell Crow
I think it's just a kiss between two friends between Kiki and the other girl. Though you can never know with Kiki. ;)
Heath and this other cute guy from 10 things:
10 things
Kirsten Dunst kissing a girl
Hand on the cheek? Lindsay and Samantha could take lessons from Kirsten.
Heath and this other cute guy from 10 things
hot. that guy was in a gay themed movie too.
"hot. that guy was in a gay themed movie too."
Really? I didn't know that. I have to check out his fimography, maybe there are some movies worth seeing.
This friend of Heath's is extremely cute. I've seen him with Heath in some other candid pictures too:
cute boys
Where are his shoes?
Where are his shoes?
Seems he prefers to walk barefeet.
^^^^That guy is really cute.
August 20, 2006
Ian Thorpe has hit back at allegations he is fat and unfit by promising to race to new peaks of glory in the pool at the Beijing Olympics in 2008. Thorpe, 23, has also defended his Los Angeles lifestyle and denied that gossip about him being gay is getting him down.
THORPE has been accused of living the high life and enjoying too much of the company of Hollywood superstars including Heath Ledger, Michelle Williams and Joel Edgerton.
Ian Thorpe and Michelle
Heath and Kevin Spacey - funny! same drugged-out half-way to heaven look as Jake.
a no doubt worthless comment from one of the last great truly hetero women - haha -
Jake is gorgeous, Id love to "do" him, his "fuck me" look is irresistable, a la Monroe or Cleopatra of the Nile -
but the idea of having serious f/m sex with the man has never interested me. no indication that he likes women, and I include KiKi, his druggie playmate - or that he knows how to even smoooch a woman properly, he "sucks face" and sloppily - in my view -
how come he doesnt get it on with his women co-stars on set, Jemma seems to be having a good time with her spanish stunt man.
oh yes and by the way - gay friends swear early Heath comes on or off "gay as a goose" -
or maybe m/m sex is the norm. whatever.
hurricane coming.
Ian Thorpe and Michelle
I still wonder where they were exactly and what they were doing there. LOL.
2:01 - Jake really seems to be sucking the lips of his female co-stars. I liked how he kissed Heath, but Heath is a man. ;)
I already mentioned this, Heath was a guy who was on the one hand very feminine, but on the other hand very masculin too. I don't think he was gay, but it is possible he liked guys too.
Heath was a very sensitive guy. Jake said Heath carried his heart on his shoulder. I think his "cool" behaviour was partly to hide this sensitivity. To protect himself.
I remember what Michelle said after his death, that many people probably didn't know how sensitive he was, judging by his physique etc...
For years, probably since his appearance at the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games, many have been speculating, and most gay men have been hoping, that the Thorpedo—gold medal winner Ian Thorpe—was indeed a homo. Well, don’t count on it. This past weekend, in an interview with Australian paper The Sunday Telegraph, Thorpe was again vague about the gender of his new significant other. When asked if there was someone special in his life he said, "There is, but they don’t live in this country." That interview had the web buzzing that Thorpe might finally reveal more details about his private life, which he has famously kept to himself, probably part of the reason for the homospeculation. On Monday, however, all our Thorpe dreams were finally laid to rest. Web site News.AU.com reports that, in an interview with Women’s Day, Thorpe finally revealed the gender of his new love interest. "I am in a new relationship and I am very happy; except she lives on the other side of the world." Thorpe told the magazine.
Heath and Kevin Spacey - funny! same drugged-out half-way to heaven look as Jake.
Huh?
Heath probably liked guys too but no way he was gay IMO.
Colin Farrell: Hero of the Homeless
Last September a homeless alcoholic who goes by the name of Stress was walking past Toronto's InterContinental Hotel after having spent the night on the steps of a church when out popped overly good-looking Irishman Colin Farrell, who was in town to promote In Bruges at the city's annual Film Festival. Next thing Stress knew, he was tooling around town in the back of the actor's limo while Farrell treated him to a $3000 shopping spree and an anti-addiction pep talk.
"You need to get your life together, man, promise me," Farrell told him. "And make sure you go see my new movie."
A year later, the Toronto Sun catches up with Stress to see if he kept his promise: Today, Stress is clean and sober, has a comfy bachelor pad, goes to church and the Y and darts around town on a mountain bike. He's even taken up yoga.
"Colin Farrell saved my life," he says.
http://gawker.com/5043924/colin-farrell-hero-of-the-homeless
Heath probably liked guys too but no way he was gay IMO.
I don't think either.
What I think is that he was a good guy, a good friend and colleague. He was attractive and a very good actor. His sexual orientation doesn't really matter at all in the end.
"huh"
my meaning not clear, I guess. Jake's drugged-out-on-sex look, as in the great reunion scene from BBMt, and in pics where he looks at Heath like he's about to climax.
Heath probably liked guys too but no way he was gay IMO.
okkk, was he bi but like women more? Was he straight and just wanted a little romp with men occasionally? Or was he a gay man hiding behind his many girlfriends who he seem to keep not very long because of his sensitive nature which some have noticed as the feminine side of him. I give up! I know, Let's use these same examples for Jake also.
and in pics where he looks at Heath like he's about to climax.
Nowadays I'm annoyed by these pictures. You know why? Because of his "I don't give a fuck" attitude shortly after "the former object of his affection" died. He went shopping and other things with Reese shortly after and didn't even pay respect to him.
These looks mean nothing, his actions show what he is really like.
I give Jake that much, he is still a good actor and a good looking guy, but his actions put me off.
3:43 PM, I guess we will never know.
guess there's not alot of chemistry between the prince and princess since she is apparently boffing one of the stuntmen.
surprise surprise!
JJ
Kevin Spacey’s Butt Break
Kevin Spacey pretends to be a proctologist while hanging out with a few guy friends at a nightclub in Hvar, Croatia on Friday.
These shocking new photos of the 49-year-old actor show Spacey wearing a newboy cap and pulling a young man’s shorts down. Spacey has been in London the last few years as the artistic director of the Old Vic, one of the city’s oldest theaters.
JJared
I feel their PR *tested the waters* in the beginning announcing them as a "couple" , then there were rumors they had broken up, then back together again in early 2007. as I remember. It was probably at this point where they decided to spin, make Ryan P, out to be the low-down, dirty, cheatng spouse that she could no longer tolerate, and had gotten with Jake , who was "a man who would finally treat her right" Poor little Reesy cup. LOL... then, there was the weird interveiw on Ellen for the Rendition promotion. For one moment though, take away the sexual aspect of Jake's relationships. Really now, What truly straight man loves shopping for purses with his girl that much? Loves Rufus W. concerts, and says they're not "afraid of it" or "uncomfortable with it" if a gay man cruised them. Not to mention, he "eye-fucked" Heath constantly throughout the BBM promotion.
Certainly, growing up in Hollywood, he had much exposure to homosexuality, but most actors tend to go their own way, marry, and have children. Instead, Jake wallows in ambiguity, makes puzzling statements concerning his sexual orientation. If he loves Reese W., what is the problem with just saying that? I've yet to hear him profess his love for her, despite the photos, Rome etc.. other than "were good friends" etc..He smacks of a man who has something to hide. He allows his *private" life to be plastered on every blog site and covers of rag tabloid mags, but he's yet to speak frankly about his love for her and she does likewise. Ted C and others have all but outed him he never really attempts to set the record straight as speculation and rumors fly.( no pun intended). Please, some one tell me, What the hell is the BIG secret??? They both put on a big show, but the the telling is conspicuously absent. Either he's a sellout who's lost his dignity, or he has a huge secret, (protection of a secret lover)and needs Reese for cover. Go figure.
guess there's not alot of chemistry between the prince and princess since she is apparently boffing one of the stuntmen.
surprise surprise!
^^^ Whatever do you mean by this. Please explain. And let's not be cryptic.
Why would shouldn't she be off boffing one of the stuntmen? She isn't married and supposedly Jake is with Reese. Were you expecting rumors of Gemma nad Jake from the set of Pop did you? Why? There were no rumblings of Jake and Nat on Brothers or Reese and Vince on her movie.
...then, there was the weird interveiw on Ellen for the Rendition promotion
The love that dare not speak its name?
is there such a thing as obsessive cock teasing? he never lets up.
my meaning not clear, I guess. Jake's drugged-out-on-sex look, as in the great reunion scene from BBMt, and in pics where he looks at Heath like he's about to climax.
Oh, I see. He did give Heath some orgasmic looks, didn't he? LOL
Is BBM going to be the only gay love story that a major studio make? Why aren't more gay films being made?
BBM budget was $14,000,000 and I think it's an indie movie.
I think it's an indie movie.
It is.
Gay and Gayer
Ewan McGregor and Jim Carrey bring the true story of con man Steven Russell and his former cell mate and lover to the big screen in I Love You Phillip Morris.
Ewan Mcgregor looks pissed. He’s playing the title character, a prisoner, in the new movie I Love You Phillip Morris, and his character has just discovered that a fellow inmate (someone he can’t stand) has been beaten up. He’s upset because everyone is blaming his boyfriend, Steven Russell (Jim Carrey), for the brawl. But when Morris learns that the gossip is true, that Russell really did order the pummeling, he jumps into his boyfriend’s cot and coos, “That’s the most romantic thing anyone’s ever done for me.” The actors kiss on the lips and roll around until Carrey (now out of character) says to McGregor, “You’re getting a little too excited.”
A beat-down as a romantic gesture? The film’s directors -- Glenn Ficarra and John Requa -- love it. Sitting in the steamy warehouse set outside New Orleans, Requa leans back with pleasure after McGregor and Carrey finish the scene, and Ficarra shouts, “That was great!” Still, the make-out session needs to be shot several more times. Sometimes the kiss is more tender, other times more passionate. The one thing that every take makes clear is that I Love You Phillip Morris, which the producers hope to see released this fall, isn’t shying away from showing two men in love.
Romance behind bars may not be remarkable, but the true story the film is based on surely is: Russell was a con artist who posed as a chief financial officer, a Virginia millionaire, and other powerful figures in order to steal hundreds of thousands of dollars. Once a police officer, he was married with children before coming out of the closet. Furtive affairs finally led to a relationship with his first boyfriend (played by Rodrigo Santoro of Che), who later died of AIDS.
After a conviction for insurance fraud, Russell was placed in Houston’s Harris County Jail, where he fell quickly and completely in love with the redheaded and boyish Morris, who was incarcerated for violating probation imposed for failing to return a rental car. Russell was so in love that after Morris was released, he repeatedly broke out of prison (one time literally walking out the front door, dressed as a doctor) to be with his man. “What makes [this movie] different from Catch Me If You Can or any other con-man movie is that it’s a love story,” Requa says. “Some of the more shocking elements of the movie -- the idea of these men trying to snatch love and bliss in the middle of the most awful environment imaginable -- are actually very funny.”
For Carrey, the story presented a break for him as an actor: to tackle one of his most romantic roles yet. “Russell was so misguidedly relentless about love that you’ve got to admire it,” Carrey says. “I always try to figure out what delusion the character is living under. We all kind of have them, whether it’s a feeling of worthlessness or whatever it is,” says Carrey, who shaved back an inch of his hairline to emphasize “the brain” of his character. Russell reportedly has an IQ of 169.
To understand the con man’s motivations, Carrey had to explore the pain of Russell’s childhood. “When your mother gives you up for adoption and then doesn’t want you back when you find her—that definitely leaves a hole in you,” he says. “It’s difficult to trust somebody after that.” Trust -- and a level of comfort -- is something Carrey had to develop with his fellow actors right away. Because of a tight film schedule, the first scenes he shot were the love scenes with each of his romantic partners. He made out with Santoro in a gay bar in Miami on the first day of the shoot, followed quickly by sex scenes with Leslie Mann (who plays Russell’s wife) and then with McGregor.
“It’s a very, very amusing scene,” McGregor says of his and Carrey’s hookup. The two are out on a boat, “and I’m giving Steven a blow job. I look up and there’s this big huge black storm cloud coming toward us. This is true -- Steven turns the boat straight toward the storm because he knows that you can’t outrun a storm. You have to go through the middle,” McGregor says. “But Phillip doesn’t know this, and it’s maybe his queeniest moment, when he has this tiff and screams, ‘What the fuck are you doing?’” Carrey jumps in. “I tell him I read it in a magazine. And he asks, ‘What magazine? If you tell me The Advocate, I’ll fucking kill you.’”
The real Russell is still in a Texas prison (Carrey was not allowed to visit him). But Morris, who has a nonspeaking role in the film as Russell’s lawyer, is a free man. Friendly and charming, the slight 49-year-old Morris seems fit, though he’s recovering from a stroke. These days he lives in Hot Springs, Ark., in the home of a friend, a preacher, and says he’s convinced people in his life today won’t associate him with the Phillip Morris in the movie. (To be fair, he’s not completely tight-lipped about the connection. Occasionally he delights in telling people -- like the waitress at his favorite diner -- to Google the movie title.)
Morris, who says it’s “wonderful” to have McGregor portray him, isn’t dating anyone at the moment. So the question naturally is, “Are you waiting for Russell?” “No,” he says. “But when he gets out, as far as I’m concerned, we’ll probably be together.” And by “gets out,” does he mean parole or otherwise? Morris laughs. “Well, you never know.”
Advocate
Yes, of course the "love that dare not speak it's name" Ha! That tells me that this "love" is somebody who's maybe outside of show biz or some one still "up and coming." Some one not yet big or established in Hollywood who's name must be protected at all costs. I may be wrong, but did'nt Ted C. allude to the point at one time, that it's not the obvious choice...And it's not Reese either. and speaking of Ted,
He and Jake seem to be playing a game of cat and mouse with this TT thing, especially lately with this Baby T business. I think Jake succeeded in pissing Ted C. off just a little ,OR, It's Just juicy gossip about one of the most desirable men in the world. Jake plays along by niether denying nor confirming any of it. The HW machine at it's finest.
Jake plays along by niether denying nor confirming any of it.
The best way. Just gay, gay!
"Yes, of course the "love that dare not speak it's name" Ha!That tells me that this "love" is somebody who's maybe outside of show biz or some one still "up and coming." Some one not yet big or established in Hollywood who's name must be protected at all costs."
Um no, if he really wanted to protect an important relationship or person he would've said nothing (don’t get me started with it being his rebellion against his PR - lol). Instead he did the same old cock-teasing as someone else already said to keep everyone guessing - is he, isn't he?
Yeah I know he's gay but he's been using the sexual ambiguity to his own advantage and it worked to a point, it increased his popularity online, it made him interesting and you bet he knows it. But when his gay fanbase didn't help his movies at the BO and when his popularity didn’t help him get work he chanced tactic, enter the fauxmance and score PoP.
Yeah I know he's gay but he's been using the sexual ambiguity to his own advantage and it worked to a point, it increased his popularity online, it made him interesting and you bet he knows it. But when his gay fanbase didn't help his movies at the BO and when his popularity didn’t help him get work he chanced tactic, enter the fauxmance and score PoP.
ITA.
6:47 p.m., Your are totally accurate but all I'm saying is it's all part of this little game he's playing. Many suspect he's gay and is hiding a lover/lovers out there. He keeps this thing intriguing about his sexuality going (yes, defintly to his advantage.) by keeping mum, not confirming nor denying it. He sold out to snag POP but I get the feeling this film will not be his saving grace either.
*War of the Worlds should have been a huge success for T. Cruise , but his behavior turned alot of fans off. Never underestimate the power of the true fan. We buy the tickets and PR is no substitute for word of mouth among film goers. Give us a great performance and don't insult our intelligence and we're happy campers.
Speaking of Tom Cruise, I did not know that he is in (spoiler alert) Tropic Thunder. He is really great in it and almost steals the movie. Really! At least 2 other major stars who did not get major credit for the movie.
Stupidly funny movie for escapism.
Tom Cruise is an interesting example of making huge PR mistakes. Has the power gone to his head or did he stop taking advices from his PR people?
War of the Worlds should have been a huge success for T. Cruise , but his behavior turned alot of fans off.
True. Even if PoP will be very successful it's not a guarantee that public will be interested to see Jake is other movies.
Has the power gone to his head or did he stop taking advices from his PR people?
Both. Thought he was invincible + fired superpublicist Pat Kingsley, hired his incompetent sister. Subsequent meltdown was such that he will never fully recover, even though he now has a long-term, multi-level crisis PR war plan in motion.
Just goes to show, even if the minivan majority adores you, a few missteps can knock you from the top of the hill in no time.
On that subject...JG is in uncertain waters these days. Object of jokes from some quarters for his relationship with RW, resentment in other places for being a (perceived) silver-spoon baby, no hit movies recently, indie cred slipping. If PoP is not a "cool" hit, could be in trouble. Brothers, meanwhile, has dropped off the PR planet.
... fired superpublicist Pat Kingsley, hired his incompetent sister.
Wow! And I thought that Tom is sly and smart.
Even if PoP will be very successful it's not a guarantee that public will be interested to see Jake is other movies.
Agreed.
Would coming out help Tom? :)
"What do Barney Frank, Elton John and Ellen DeGeneres have in common with Larry Craig, Clay Aiken and Ricky Martin? Well, for one, they’re all obviously gay. Each and every one of them. Gay, gay, gay.
But while the first three came out after years of whispers, the others responded to mounting evidence by burying themselves deep into the sands of denial. Unfortunately, the cozy little burrow they hoped would shield them from further public scrutiny was already occupied by Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Oprah -- and they weren’t budging! Coming out of the closet used to mean career death for politicians and celebrities. But as times slowly change, those bold enough to declare their true sexual orientation have about the same chance of seeing their lives destroyed as they do of getting an image award from GLAAD.
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There’s one more Hollywood option for closet cases who opt not to come out. They can get religion -- a religion so freaky and extreme it that it wraps their sexual orientation in a cloak of comparative invisibility. That brings to mind a certain couch-jumping, psychology-bashing, Top Gun known as Tom Cruise.
"Tom Cruise is in a somewhat different category, because now you have to figure in Scientology." That’s the assessment of Larry Gross, professor and director of the USC School of Communications. The author of "Contested Closets: The Politics and Ethics of Outing," Gross says "There are many who have speculated that the Church of Scientology offers celebrities a particular kind of closet. There are numerous celebrity Scientologists whose sexuality has been the subject of speculation." The religion, well known for its aggressive recruitment of celebrities, "seems to attract people about whom these rumors have been swirling." asserts Gross. Such as? "John Travolta, who certainly was gay at one point; Kirstie Alley, Jada Pinket Smith and possibly Will Smith."
Tom Cruise, who ruined his box office status with endless Scientology-inspired tirades, should really consider coming out. It could be his last best hope for a career renaissance and a return to cultural relevance. Don’t bet on it, however. That’s the sage counsel from Gaulden -- who indicates that even if Cruise is a little lavender, he’s still a walking advertisement for creepy confidence. Gaulden: "Tom Cruise smiles that real shit eating grin. That’s what a narcissist does. He has an automatic thing like a smile to the world that is watching." Cruise may enjoy being fed by the red carpet treatment that celebrity and Scientology both provide. But "When they turn off the camera and he steps in his house, that other side of him takes over."
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Inside the Closet, or the Fine Art of Denial
General Witherspoon at two nightclubs in Brazil (videos and pics from the local Brazilian press)
video dancing and drinking
pic 1
pic 2
She has about as much dancing ability as Jake. At least they have that in common.
video dancing and drinking
LOL
Are you kidding, Jake is an excellent dancer :)
"Jake Gyllenhaal’s 9th-grade yearbook photo has surfaced, along with pictures of certain extracurricular activity, which includes his membership in the disco club. That’s right folks, young Jacob was a big fan of shirtless dance parties, sponsored by the Harvard School for Boys in North Hollywood. WTF!?
I’m afraid this officially keeps him under suspicion for life."
http://www.ninjadude.com/index.php/jake-gyllenhaal-was-in-the-disco-club
So Reese is enjoying night life and drinks? I thought she was so perfect? I read somewhere that she's a secret smoker as well. During a phototshoot in 2007 she supposedly smoked one after another. Apparently she likes to hide the fact.
She knows that fangirls and general public are stupid as mud and will buy all PR crap served by tabloids and other PR shills.
She knows that fangirls and general public are stupid as mud and will buy all PR crap served by tabloids and other PR shills.
Of course she knows that and she's right.
Does anyone else have the impression that Reese doesn't seem to respect Jake that much anymore? I've seen pictures on IHJ where he was walking backwards (to hide from paparazzi) with Reese walking next to him and she was making weird faces, like "this boy is so pathetic". Or the latest pics where she's holding her nose, maybe Jake wasn't smelling too good after working and sweating? She is such a bitch. I wouldn't want to be friends with her. She seems so high maintainance.
Why do you think they ever respected each other? They don't seem like good friends and I bet they don't always feel like pretending to enjoy each other's company.
That’s right folks, young Jacob was a big fan of shirtless dance parties...
D.I.S.C.O
He is disco
He is D desirable
He is I irresistible
He is S super sexy
He is C such a cute
He is O oh, oh, oh
D.I.S.C.O
9:17 AM, I think it's gotten worse to be honest.
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