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How can it be rubbish if Michelle said that? Methinks Michelle doesn't like the Ledger's and the feeling is mutual. Poor Matilda will probably have to learn about her daddy from the media.
Michelle didn't say that. Keep trashing Michelle, it won't work :)
His girlfriend of less than 3 years and baby mama is what she was.
Yes, just most important woman in Heath's life, that's all.
If Michelle didn't say that, why didn't her rep deny it?
Because there is no need for that.
I think Heath's dad seems to be an ok guy (but a bit of a philanderer like Heath), but his new wife looks cheap to me.
Heath's mom doesn't look very nice, but her new hubby seems ok. Did you know that Heath's mom used to date her "now hubby" before Heath's dad? Then she left her "now hubby" for Heath's dad until he cheated on her and she left him to return to her "now hubby". Now they have an own family now.
Heath's dad also has another kid from a relationship after Heath's mom.
Heath was close to all of his siblings, the two half sisters and his sister Kate (who has the same parents).
You can find the info in one of the Heath biographies. There are probably more to come.
Because there is no need for that.
If Kate Ledger addressed it clearly there is.
Ryan Gosling and Michelle Williams (Coyly) Deny They're Dating
They've been knocking down romance rumors for months now, and he's been spotted getting close to Blake Lively recently.
But it seems Ryan Gosling and Michelle Williams still want to keep everyone guessing.
In an interview with ABC News Nightline airing Tuesday, host Cynthia McFadden asks the Blue Valentine costars, both 30, if they're a couple.
As they exchange long glances, Gosling, who also calls her a "sexy cowboy" in the interview, whistles as if to pretend he didn't hear the question and Williams can't stop smiling. Gosling puts his arm around Michelle shakes her head "no" with a broad, mysterious grin.
After a long pause, McFadden is not convinced. "I don't believe that," she says.
Later, Gosling responds to questions of his truthfulness by joking, "I always look like I'm lying. It's just – that's my face."
They appeared equally besotted back in May, when Blue Valentine screened in Cannes and the pair stayed close and held hands for much of the night; before that they got cozy at the Sundance Film Festival in January.
People
Because there is no need for that.
If Kate Ledger addressed it clearly there is.
There isn't BECAUSE Kate Ledger addressed it.
Video of dating question:
http://www.popsugar.com/Video-Ryan-Gosling-Michelle-Williams-Talking-Dating-Rumors-12732989
(can't make it clickable because else stupid blogger swallows it)
There isn't BECAUSE Kate Ledger addressed it.
Michelle's rep didn't issue a denial because Michelle made those comments. Kate Ledger is a PR person so what else was she to say? We'll find out more about the break up and the tensions between them in the years to come.
Michelle's rep didn't issue a denial because Michelle made those comments.
That's your wishful thinking.
Kate Ledger is a PR person so what else was she to say?
True. She was one of Heath's PR people when he was alive.
Kate Ledger is a PR person so what else was she to say?
"No comment", it's not like she works for Michelle as PR person.
6:03 PM - Let's say Michelle did say that in one of her interviews... saying "no comment" would be too ambiguous, saying "it is not true" is much better to shut people's mouths, if you don't want people talk about it...even if the comment were true.
Make up your mind - Heath's family likes or dislikes Michelle? You don't protect people you dislike.
Not protect Michelle, but not cause unwanted rumors. Kate probably doesn't want negative publicity around her family.
Public fights are embarrassing.
Oh boy, it is so easy to trash Michelle.
Heath's family isn't protecting Michelle, they're protection Heath's memory, themselves and Matilda from feud rumors between them and Michelle.
Don't worry, people used to voice their dislike of Michelle on internet blogs while Heath was alive. Calling her sour puss etc. Lainey couldn't stand her either. After Heath's death, she was pitied + her recently great filmography and the Gosling thing, made her quite popular.
She's got a nice career, a healthy child, she's pretty. I think she's doing fine. And doesn't give a rats ass what he say. ;)
Sure. Michelle is a bad person and bad mother and bad ex-girlfriend and everyone else is better than her.
Heath's family isn't protecting Michelle, they're protection Heath's memory, themselves and Matilda from feud rumors between them and Michelle.
That's my opinion too.
Heath's family isn't protecting Michelle, they're protection Heath's memory, themselves and Matilda...
Sure. Michelle is a bad person and bad mother and bad ex-girlfriend and everyone else is better than her.
Sure. Michelle is a bad person and bad mother and bad ex-girlfriend and everyone else is better than her.
Why bad person or mother? Didn't Kate say, they are planning a reunion with Michelle and Matilda? Seems Michelle is ok with that. It's not like Michelle doesn't want contact. Even if there are tensions, she'll probably put up with that for the kid's sake. They probably see each other just once a year, so it's not that much asked of Michelle.
Michelle also supposedly said, she won't be spending Christmas with her mom either, not just the Ledgers. I wonder with whom she and Matilda will spend Christmas with. Busy?
Why bad person or mother?
One more time: Heath's family isn't protecting Michelle, they're protection Heath's memory, themselves and Matilda...
Busy?
Or she's secretly dating someone and will be spending Christmas with him...
Jake shopping solo twitpic.
"Jake G. & Libby from our women's running & fitness dept. For some reason she hasn't stopped smiling!"
Jake, what happened to "no more gym for me, I eat my vegetables"? :)
I changed my mind! ;)
Jake wants to look good in his sex scenes with Julianne Moore :)
Jake wants to look good in his sex scenes with Julianne Moore :)
LOL.
In all honesty? Julianne Moore is one beautiful woman. I mean, she is 50, that's insane. She could be my mother, but doesn't look that much older than me and my girlfriends.
Please 7:00 PM, no LOLs, Jake said that :)
Jake Gyllenhaal has admitted that if he had to have onscreen sex with anyone, he’d pick A Single Man actress Julianne Moore.
“I really think I would do Julianne Moore, kinda hands down. She has great movie sex,” Jake tells us in our video interview.
However, when his Love And Other Drugs co-star Anne Hathaway suggests she’d like to partner up with Viggo Mortensen onscreen, Jake’s having none of it. “I’m kind of jealous,” Jake says to Anne. “I really have just devoted my onscreen sex to you. So it’s weird. I’m fine with it. I just care about you.”
“I care about you too,” Anne says, “I just care about a lot of people.”
Love And Other Drugs is out in cinemas from 29 December.
http://community.livejournal.com/ohnotheydidnt/54520570.html
Please 7:00 PM, no LOLs, Jake said that :)
I know. But I just imagined him working out like crazy to look good in a sex scene with a much older actress. It's funny. But as I've said, she's pretty hot for a 50 year old, so. :)
Viggo Mortensen is a hot piece of man ass.
^^^ Jake, is that you?
Julianne Moore is friggin gorgeous!! I'm surprised he would pick her--she's not exactly the child-like blue-eyed blonde cheerleader types he loves so much.
Well, Jake doesn't like blue-eyed blonde cheerleader types.
^^Not exclusively. He likes brown eyed blondes too. Heath anyone? But it has to be blonde, real or fake blonde, it has to. J/K. ;)
Jake Gyllenhaal eating lunch with his mother at E.A.T. on Madison Avenue . . .
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/sightings_yJotBzRBVsbPtZovypND7O#ixzz18lc0TjbP
"127 Hours" -- What didn't James Franco do in 2010? The recently moustached university student appeared on "General Hospital" and "30 Rock," published a short story collection, played Beat legend Allen Ginsberg in the film "Howl" and agreed to host the Academy Awards. And, oh yes, he also starred in Danny Boyle's gripping "127 Hours," about real-life hiker Aron Ralston, who cut off part of his own arm after it became trapped under a boulder. With its pulsating soundtrack and eye-popping use of colour, Boyle creates an almost unbearable degree of suspense -- a nifty trick given that many viewers already know the film's outcome going in. Though he is barely able to move for most of the movie, Franco is mesmerizing as he grunts, weeps, strategizes and -- perhaps most amazingly --shows a wicked sense of humour during the ghastly ordeal.
"Black Swan" -- After a break with the more conventional drama "The Wrestler," director Darren Aronofsky returned to his auteur filmmaking ways with this stunningly off-kilter tale of a ballerina who is pushed to the emotional and physical brink after winning the lead role in "Swan Lake." Natalie Portman's commitment to the demanding role -- she trained relentlessly for nearly a year to convincingly play an elite ballerina -- has already earned the actress a Golden Globe nomination and it will be a huge surprise if she's overlooked for an Academy Award nod. Aronofsky is also the subject of major awards buzz. Here's hoping the visionary director who brought us "Pi" and "Requiem for a Dream" will finally be rewarded for daring to be different.
"The King's Speech" -- The perfect film to shake off your period-piece phobia or historical-drama disdain. This true story of an unyielding speech therapist (Geoffrey Rush) who helps King George VI (Colin Firth) overcome a crippling stammer amid a looming war is both touching and hilarious and actually makes the royals relatable. Scenes between Firth and Rush are like a master class in acting while Helena Bonham Carter is equally exquisite as the King's wife, Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (the Queen Mother). With members of the Royal Family in the news so much lately, "The King's Speech" is a timely commentary on how the monarchy shapes its image. As George VI says in the film, in the past, all a king had to do was look good on a horse -- but now, they've "become actors."
"The Social Network" -- Is "The Social Network" a true-to-life portrayal of baby-faced Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, or a one-sided character assassination? And does it really matter? Whatever the real-life story, the film stands as a fascinating look at how anti-social geeks are winning over the cool crowd in this digital age and becoming some of the world's most powerful people -- even if they often lack the necessary charisma and personality traits to handle relationships in the non-virtual world. Director David Fincher allows his stellar cast to shine, screenwriter Aaron Sorkin lets scenes go on and on with his characteristically witty, bantering dialogue, and Trent Reznor's prominent, moody score lends just the right edge to the battle over the phenomenally popular site.
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/Entertainment/20101221/top-10-films-canadian-press-101221/
2010-08-18
Maggie Gyllenhaal To Join Peter Sarsgaard In Bill Monroe Biopic
We learned in late June that Sarsgaard would be starring in a biopic about bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, but apparently she'll be joining him-- and bringing her Oscar-winning Crazy Heart collaborator T. Bone Burnett with her:
"Bill Monroe, who invented Blue Grass music had a kind of Sid and Nancy style affair with this woman Bessie Lee Mauldin throughout his life and T-Bone Burnett’s going to do the music and Callie Khouri who wrote Thelma & Louise wrote the script so we’re going to do that together."
This the first we've heard of T. Bone Burnett's involvement, and if a Gyllenhaal-Sarsgaard matchup weren't enough to get me interested, that definitely seals the deal. With Khouri still working on the script it will probably be a while before we see the final product, but isn't this kind of match-up worth the wait? The two said in February of last year that they wouldn't team up again at the movies (they worked together in a production of Uncle Vanya in New York), but I suppose anyone will change their mind if the right project comes along. All the better for us, I'd say.
http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Maggie-Gyllenhaal-To-Join-Peter-Sarsgaard-In-Bill-Monroe-Biopic-20228.html
Great news. Good luck to Maggie and Peter. I know many don't like Maggie, but I think she's fine and her and Peter are a nice couple.
Gee, how convenient is it that Peter and Maggie are doing that bio and Jake has a country singing beard.
Might explain why Maggie and Peter were in Nashville.
Probably explains why Maggie was so willing to whore herself and Ramona out too.
Because blue-grass and pop country are the same how?
IA with destiny. And 10:40, yes blue grass and pop country have a lot in common. Look up the musical roots, my dear.
What Taylor does is considered country music, just as was the case with Monroe in his hey day. He was a regular at the Grand Ole Opry and was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame as well as the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
You can bet the Monroe film will be marketed to country music fans.
Jake spend 100,000 on a woman. Any fool that believes that also believes Swift and he are real. The antique French china script writer is obviously still on the PR payroll.
I find it hard to believe that in these difficult times economically that people really like to read about actors dropping that kind of money on someone they supposedly just started dating.
Because blue-grass and pop country are the same how?
No need for playing stupid, everyone knows that bluegrass and country pop have at least one thing in common - Nashville.
Trolly, you trot out that same old lame line because you have nothing more intelligent to add. It speaks volumes about your 'brain'. LOL!!
2010-08-18
Maggie Gyllenhaal To Join Peter Sarsgaard In Bill Monroe Biopic
And three months later Maggie poses for pics with the country star.
The antique French china script writer is obviously still on the PR payroll.
What other choice do I have? I keep getting reject notices from Harlequin for my romance novels.
:)
@ScottFeinberg: Not impressed by Cynthia McFadden's decision to focus so much on Heath Ledger's death during her interview with Michelle Williams. Sadistic.
7 hours ago
nndesai: Ditto. RT @mikeylikestv: Michelle Williams is talking about Heath Ledger. And I'm crying.
about 4 hours ago
RiChD62604: RT @abc: Michelle Williams on Life After Heath Ledger http://abcn.ws/evMBqQ
about 4 hours ago
ABC News' Cynthia McFadden's interview with Michelle Williams + video:
...
Williams' relationship with Ledger is a subject she has declined to discuss, but said she said she "understood" people's curiosity about how she has coped with his death.
After he died, Williams said she was comforted by reading "The Year of Magical Thinking" by Joan Didion, a book written about Didion's difficulty in letting go of her husband, John Gregory Dunne, in the first year after he died. Williams said she experienced very much the same thing.
"It didn't seem unlikely to me that he could walk through a door, or could appear behind a bush," she said. "In some ways, I am just, I am sad to be moving further and further away from it."
Like Didion who writes about how life can change in an instant, Williams said she, "got kind of obsessed with that for a while, [the] 'before and after."
Now raising 5-year-old Matilda, Williams is a dedicated and enthusiastic mother. She said she wants her daughter to have a normal life, but acknowledged the requirements of her career makes that a "challenge."
"It is of more importance to me than anything else in my life," she said. "I would re-arrange anything to make that possible. If something starts to encroach on that ... it's gonna be removed from the equation.
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/michelle-williams-health-ledgers-death-working-ryan-gosling/story?id=12424318&tqkw=&tqshow=NL
"In some ways, I am just, I am sad to be moving further and further away from it."
In fact she moved on from Heath long before his death. He left her way before it was made official in September 2007. There were already sightings of him with Gemma Ward in October together in various clubs. In one interview Michelle said, she mostly felt sorry for her daughter losing her father so early. I believe her. And probably about a young life lost so unnecessary.
she moved on from Heath long before his death. He left her way before it was made official in September 2007. There were already sightings of him with Gemma Ward
LOL you described Heath moving on.
Besides, anyone knows that just because people may date, go out, screw others, talk about it like it doesn't matter, doesn't mean they are "over" and healed from a previous relationship.
Where is Gossip Cop to tell us if this jewelry story is true or not? All the other stories, Gossip Cop was quick to prove it was BS (not officially PR approved). This story must by PR written if Gossip Cop is leaving it alone. And it's such a lame story. The best part being Jake made his own card. Did he ask Ramona if he could borrow her crayons?
I would put bluegrass music in the folk category, not the general country bin. Country pop is not the same, but it does fall under the general umbrella - just as there are different types of rock 'n' roll, jazz, soul, etc. There's no conspiracy with T-Bone Burnett to get Jake a country-music girlfriend, I don't think anyway.
I would put bluegrass music in the folk category, not the general country bin.
That DOES NOT MATTER - Nashville is the point, not differences between different music types.
There's no conspiracy with T-Bone Burnett to get Jake a country-music girlfriend
Huh??? Who said anything about that? We are talking about Gyllenhaals and their PR business.
As the city's name itself is a metonym for the country music industry, many popular tourist sites involve country music, including the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum, Belcourt Theatre, and Ryman Auditorium.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville,_Tennessee
I'm also still laughing about Jake making his own card for Taylor. What I love the most about the whole Swyll thing is that the babblers can now see how PR works and how phony it all is. That's what I call priceless.
I see what you are "trying" to say, that since TS is a country music singer, that a Gyllenhall being within a 50-mile radius of her will help promote Peter's movie about Bill Monroe. Ok, but that the two musicians are about as different as night and day. Just because they have Nashville in common, that's about it. Real, knowledgable music fans across all genres will want to see the story of Bill Monroe, the founder of an American roots music, not because of Taylor. Their fans would not even be the same. It's faily ignorant to even suggest such a thing.
I'd stay in my own area of expertise if I were you, Manhattan and environs, when obviously you don't know Jack about country music, just stereotypes. Using beligerence to prove a point won't work with everyone.
Normally I just try to ignore the crap that's posted here in favor of the few and far between posts of worth, but sometimes reading the same BS posted by the same ignorant, self-important bigmouths over and over again gets a little tiresome. Rant over.
What I love the most about the whole Swyll thing is that the babblers can now see how PR works and how phony it all is.
Awww, poor babblers - are they doing group hugs with UV? :)
I see what you are "trying" to say, that since TS is a country music singer, that a Gyllenhall being within a 50-mile radius of her will help promote Peter's movie about Bill Monroe. Ok, but that the two musicians are about as different as night and day.
Huh??? So what?
The word is "publicity" - look it up.
You give PR too much clout.
What situation is that, 10:44 AM #2? Jake making birthday cards for the beard? LMAO
Hi trolly, still pissed off? Good!!! :)
Sorry 10:52 AM, trolling and posting nasty insults has NOTHING to do with free speech :)
Bill Monroe may have been considered the Father of Bluegrass, but as someone who grew up in the 1950s, I can definitely tell you that people considered his music Country & Western and that’s where it was filed in music stores. No doubt about it. His songs constantly appeared on the Country Music charts and he played regularly at the Grand Ole Opry, even hosting the show weekly in the 1990s. After thirty years in the industry, he was inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame in 1970 and the following year, into the Nashville Songwriters Association International Hall of Fame. Yes, I definitely can see the connection of why Maggie was so eager to whore herself and her daughter for that T-day spread. Makes perfect sense.
Now, we know why the initial story, about how-did-this-unlikely-couple-meet, pointed to Maggie having introduced Jake and Swifty. No doubt to give the impression that old Park Slope liberal hipster is really just a down home girl who hobnobs with Country superstars. Separate themselves from that gosh darn civil liberties, gay cowboy stuff. When people started making fun that Maggie had supposedly already introduced Jake to Kirsten Dunst (casting doubt on Jake’s manly ability to get his own women), then the story was floated that Jake had a third party transact the hookup. Now, right before Gwyneth Paltrow’s Country Strong movie is going to hit the theaters, she’s getting the free publicity as the real person who was involved in the corn pone love fest. The PR machine probably thinks they are being clever, but this kind of mass market manipulation is pathetic. How about just making a good movie? Oh, that’s right. That might require hard work.
Now, right before Gwyneth Paltrow’s Country Strong movie is going to hit the theaters, she’s getting the free publicity as the real person who was involved in the corn pone love fest.
Hey, fangirls are too stupid to notice such things!
Not that it matters but the problem with comprehending differences in musical styles is that so many here are Europeans - German, Dutch, and really don't have a clue what American "roots music" is. So it's easier to lump all of that which they don't know into the Nashville "sound".
If I thought anyone was even remotely interested I'd break down the differences and similarities. But it's just not worth my time and effort.
Sorry 11:06 AM, Europeans didn't make this up:
"city's name itself is a metonym for the country music industry"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nashville,_Tennessee
Or are you saying that's not true?
They should know it because a lot of what makes up American roots music originated in European countries and was brought here by immigrants. Terming the industry "Nashville" is a generalization and that is true.
11:15: Bluegraas originated in Europe? Most europeans don't know or care about CW/blugrass music.
And the foriegners that post here only care about BBM and slash like the American posters here.
Or are you saying that's not true?
Bluegrass music did not get its start in Nashville. Nashville is where the record companies and recording studios are located and that brought the bluegrass musicians there - from places like the tiny hamlets and hollers of the Appalachian mountains in Kentucky. The Blue Grass state. Where Bill Monroe was from. And the name of his band - The Blue Grass Boys. Nashville also had the largest venue of its kind to showcase this roots, or hillbilly, music in the Grand Ole Opry. Bluegrass musicians often performed on the same bill as country singers and bands at the Opry so it's easy to mistake the two genres as being the same. They are anything but.
But for some little minds, if you're below the Mason-Dixon line, who cares? Lump 'em all in together. BTW, depending upon where TS is from in PA, she could qualify. ;)
As a Southern girl. ;)
Bluegrass roots originated in the UK. Cajun orginates from French-Canada, and ultimately, France. There are many, many types of folk music that are classified under Country.
Who gives a shit, CW and bluegrass sucks moose balls.
Hey, fangirls are too stupid to notice such things!
This is where the modern day PR machine still doesn't get the influence and power of the Internet and social networking. A 24-hour cycle of bad reviews on Twitter can tank a film. The more people call Hollywood out on their bullsh*t and homophobia and, in this particular case, Jake, Maggie and Peter on their hypocrisy and phoniness, the better. As a gay man, I can remember 2005-06 very well. How many of the protestors and critics against Brokeback Mountain were just "plain country folk" and other conservative types who thought that Jake and Heath had subverted the "real" West and the only acceptable image of masculinity. That iconic figure of the rugged Malboro cowboy who rides his horses and his women hard. Being in the closet, yet trying to expand one's fanbase into the Red State, conservative culture that, ironically, works to keep Jake from living a life in the open is hard to swallow. I was surprised when Maggie did that photoshoot, but now I get it. Fame and money is far more important than integrity. I could care less whether fangirls get it, or not. Or, whether some bottom feeding master planner achieves some success. This kind of thing is what keeps Hollywood from moving into the 21st century. Jake, you truly disappoint.
^^It's nothing new. Not all people from the so-called conservative states felt that way about Brokeback, and to be fair it opened and changed a lot of minds. Everyone knows men of the West are not that stereotype, or any stereotype.
11:36 am has it right.
Some here are trying to distract from the point being made. The issue is not about the genre of music that Monroe falls into, but about the audience that is being courted. Red State, conservative, Bible thumpers. That's why the Gyllenhaals are snuggling up with the Swiftster. Jake gets to stay in his deep closeted bliss while the family tries to pivot from their liberal roots to "pass the fried chicken" (Paltrow) and "I don't go the gym anymore" Jakey.
I don't think the Gyllenhaals courting TS has anything to do with the audience of Peter's Monroe film. Bluegrass reaches a lot further than country music. Bluegrass fans are everywhere. Not so with country music fans.
Yes, ITA. All some here know about country music is Taylor, I'm going to say, and that's not all there is. People love bluegrass and folk over in the UK.
It's nothing new. Not all people from the so-called conservative states felt that way about Brokeback, and to be fair it opened and changed a lot of minds. Everyone knows men of the West are not that stereotype, or any stereotype.
The poster didn't say all people, just that many Brokeback protestors came from that "Culture War," Fox News mentality. Whoever found that Bill Monroe connection, "Thank you." I couldn't figure out how everything fit. Now, this ridiculous showmance is revealed for what it is. Another Hollywood scheme to market to the same Middle America/Red State populations that justify the Hollywood closet system in the first place. The Gyllenhaals would be what I call willing facilitators.
Some here are trying to distract from the point being made. The issue is not about the genre of music that Monroe falls into, but about the audience that is being courted.
DUH!!!
No they didn't post that - don't try to spin.
The "Bill Monroe Connection". Is that anything like "The French Connection"?
No they didn't post that - don't try to spin.
Who? Post what?
Some here are trying to distract from the point being made. The issue is not about the genre of music that Monroe falls into, but about the audience that is being courted. Red State, conservative, Bible thumpers.
Exactly! Who cares about whether the music is bluegrass, country & western, hillbilly, or hick music. The point is the audience that is being courted.
Btw: The first Bluegrass Grammy awarded was even until 1989...nearly fifty years after Monroe introduced new instruments and voice modulations into Country Music. Prior to that event, Monroe was considered Country & Western because that was the mainstream term. Modern Country, but "Country" nonetheless.
The only thing I can come up with is that "Monroe" is a character, in BBM; but the same character is called "Bill" in the short story. Does that help?
The point is the audience that is being courted.
It isn't the same audience, at all. That's what some have been trying to say.
12:12 p.m.
^"wasn't even until 1989"
Some of that music is the basis for everything we hear today.
It isn't the same audience, at all.
It is the same audience and it is about publicity, not music.
There are those who don't consider modern, polished country pop music to be real country music at all.
Bluegrass music is a form of American roots music, and is a sub-genre of country music.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluegrass_music
All music is about publicity, get real.
They aren't "courting" Taylor's fans. Her fans are more into the lyrics she writes that they relate to. Bluegrass by and large is mostly instrumentation, especially Bill Monroe's music. I can't see 17, 18 year old girls sitting through a film with mandolin and banjo breakdowns or songs about working in the mines or picking cotton. Even the addition of Maggie to make the film more appealing won't be enough to overcome the "Ewwww bluegrass music? No thank you" reaction it will get from Taylor's fans.
It isn't the same audience, at all. That's what some have been trying to say.
I think the categories the original poster put up are appropriate. Red State, conservative, Bible Belt. It doesn't mean that the genre and audience haven't expanded over the past 2 decades. They have. Just like Country Music is much more fused with Rock than it use to be. Still, the liberal, Jewish, Hollywood/Park Slope hipster image is greatly helped by associating Jake with Swifty. The best-selling darling of Country Music.
They aren't "courting" Taylor's fans.
Geez! They are using the beard to get publicity, just like the beard is using Jake and his family to get publicity.
The BBM movie did not change anybody's mind. It only convinced the ones who were already convinced. In any case, BBM was a long awaited voice in the industry for the always forgotten or hidden gay rights defenders (which is not a small thing,after all). But a change of minds?? I doubt it.
There have always been folk, roots and country music fans, everywhere, even in the "gasp!" north. A lot longer than the past two decades. It's ordinary people's music and speaks of ordinary things. Hard work, spirituality, oppression, love.
Rock evolved from country and folk, it's not fused with it. It evolved from it and over the years has diverged to almost unrecognizable paths. :)
I don't follow TS's music, so I don't know what it's like. But she is in no way country music's darling.
Obama just signed the DADT repeal.
It's interesting that WFT2 posters have been trying to figure out the Taylor Swift connection (Jake and her don't even move in the same circles) and why Maggie would so enthusiastically get involved with this farce with a high profile tabloid shoot(pimping her 4-year old daughter as well), when she stayed as far away from Reeke as possible. Now that a plausible and, I think, very persuasive theory is floated, it's treated as if it's absolutely ridiculous by some. Hmmm.
It's being pushed as fact, not a plausible theory, which is tiresome. There's an entire world out there that doesn't revolve around Jake, his family, and what they are doing. It's not all connected.
It's being pushed as fact
Bullshit.
But she is in no way country music's darling.
Record sales and Awards from the industry would prove otherwise. Oh, and don't think there isn't a marketing tie-in. I just noticed October Sky on my cable directory this week. Prior to this Swyll nonsense, you use to pay to see it. Now, the film is free and guess what channel it's playing on? That's right. Country Music Television.
It's being pushed as fact, not a plausible theory, which is tiresome. There's an entire world out there that doesn't revolve around Jake, his family, and what they are doing. It's not all connected.
It is not being pushed as fact and you know it. But, the PR reimaging of the Gyllenhaals makes a lot of sense and would explain Jake's sudden "connection" with Paltrow since she's shipping her country singer movie as well. Someone here obviously has a problem with the premise that on a Jake fansite, where discussions about *gasp* Jake and his shenanigans take place that this world revolves around Jake. Talk about playing dumb.
I just noticed October Sky on my cable directory this week. Prior to this Swyll nonsense, you use to pay to see it. Now, the film is free and guess what channel it's playing on? That's right. Country Music Television.
That is interesting. You can bet they won't be playing, Brokeback Mountain.
*cough*
The BBM movie did not change anybody's mind. It only convinced the ones who were already convinced. In any case, BBM was a long awaited voice in the industry for the always forgotten or hidden gay rights defenders (which is not a small thing,after all). But a change of minds?? I doubt it.
It was the final nail in the coffin for myself. I think about everyone knows my story going back to when I first started posting on OMG and Wicked was very curious about my background and what changed my thinking/beliefs. We've spent a length of time discussing it away from the blog as well. It's how we learn from one another.
This movie was very powerful and I don't know that some underestimate how powerful of a movie it was.
I call it a classic - it was a courageous movie to do and each of the 4 main characters could never have been more perfectly picked.
I agree, prariegirl. I do think Brokeback Mountain played a pivotal role in the mainstreaming and acceptance of the idea of two men falling in love with one another. Romantic and powerful. And, most importantly, human. I would only add that not only were the four actors perfectly cast, but having Ang Lee's gentle touch at the command center made a good movie into a revolutionary one.
Might be a stretch, but I would even suggest that the repeal of DADT was accelerated due to the impact of Brokeback Mountain. A sea change regarding gay rights and acceptance took place after 2005 and I believe that amazing film played a pretty big part in that shift of consciousness and personal reassessment of what love is.
ITA with 11:00, 11:36, 11:46, 12:22 and the other posts expressing similar views.
Just because I live in NYC doesn't mean I know nothing about country and blue grass. I lived in small towns out west where the only thing you got was country stations, and my dad was a huge country fan so I grew up with that as well as rock.
Saying Monroe and other roots musicians has nothing to do with country is like saying Buddy Holly had nothing to do with rock because he sounds nothing like Muse.
By the way, it's called roots music for a reason--it is a root influence of all kinds of music, including, gasp, country.
I don't deny the artistic and social value of a movie like BBM. But it only made a real impact on the ones who were into the gay rights movement and/or the sympathetic ones. I didn't see or heard about someone who was hostile towards gays and after watching the movie changed its mind.
Prop 8 was annuled as well around this time and I wonder if the lack of volunteers in the Army (needed to keep that insane war going) has something to do with welcoming the gay soldiers all the sudden.
I saw lots of gay men and women very touched by the movie and its sensibility and because, for once, there was a very well made movie portrating the problems and sorrows of what is to be gay in a homophobic society.Gays felt that finally a movie was attending their reality, but it did not make homosexuality more acceptable in certain circles, that is just wishful thinking.
Two more things. Country music sells more cds than any other genre, so to dismiss Swift as just some teeny bopper performer really misses the boat. Yes she has her teen fans, buit a lot of adults liten to her too.
Second, do you really think the makers of the Monroe biopic are looking to make any obscure film that will just be seen by the bluegrass fanatics?
More likely they're hoping to have a big hit like Walk the Line that appeals to a wider audience, including country fans.
I think that BBM helped change things too. Did it convince everyone, of course not. But a lot of people who would have in the past never gone to a movie about two men in love went to it, and were affected by it for the better.
I also think a lot of women for the first time realized what a turn on two men together could be. That is revolutionary too, because a lot of homophobia is based on revulsion over what two men do in bed. And that comes from women as well as men.
Noone said the biopic had "nothing" to do with country, just pointing out the exaggerations some are making about the importance of the film in connection to TS and her fans. I've lived all my life north of the Mason-Dixon line, grew up on country music in my family too. I've traveled around a lot and don't doubt the importance of roots music to people.
^^family came from Canada.
I'm willing to bet TS's fans haven't even heard of Bill Monroe.
So?
Saying Monroe and other roots musicians has nothing to do with country is like saying Buddy Holly had nothing to do with rock because he sounds nothing like Muse.
Totally different comparisons. Not the greatest of examples. Monroe has his own genre - rock musicians freely admit to being heavily influenced by BH, many of them. There's a direct connection to rock there. There are a few country musicians who do cite BM as their influence, but it doesn't appear to be as far reaching as BH. Muse doesn't really have any connection to BH, unless Matt Bellamy has mentioned something that I haven't read? Entirely possible. I'm glad you are now calling it "roots" music, since you had been lumping all country music together, at least that's how it appeared in the posts.
Bluegrass music is a form of American roots music, and is a sub-genre of country music.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluegrass_music
sub-genre.
So?
So you're theory about all her fans flocking to the biopic kinda goes out the window, I would think. :)
Now, who's playing dumb, 2:31 and 2:36? No one is suggesting that Swyll or Maggie's enthusiastic tabloid dance has anything to do with Taylor's fans, individually. It has to do with demographics, both age-wise and culturally. If you've ever taken a marketing course, you would know that's how backroom Hollywood deals are made. Who are we marketing this film to so we can maximize our profit?" Nobody said, "Let's sell the Bill Monroe film to Taylor Swift fans." They said, "How do we expand our market to include an audience who typically does not follow the Gyllenhaals or Saarsgaard. Their image is too left wing." That's when the idea of old Jake (who needs another beard) comes into play. Might as well use/exploit him since he has to have a fake girlfriend, anyway. A Nashville singer would be so much better than another Hollywood pampered starlet.
Guess what? Buddy Holly, (from Lubbock Texas), as early rock, was influenced by and had country roots too. So it's all connected. :)
I don't know anything about the validity of Jake and Taylor's romance, in fact I tend to be as skeptical of it as anyone. But some are letting their own biases influence their opinions. There is not one culture or age to generalize like that.
2:51 PM, start reading comments and stop making up things.
I am about as left-wing as you can get, and I love roots music.
But some are letting their own biases influence their opinions.
What biases?
I am about as left-wing as you can get, and I love roots music.
You love posing for tabloids, too?
If you don't think selling and marketing influences all of music, think again. I'm skeptical about country selling the most cd's; I would think teenage kids are the biggest purchasers across the boards. Got any facts to back that statement up?
I'm glad you are now calling it "roots" music, since you had been lumping all country music together, at least that's how it appeared in the posts.
People can argue about genre classifications all they want. The point is that when I was growing up Bill Monroe was considered Country and Western. No doubt. But, the Nashville music industry is what's key here. That's the city where the bluegrass and hillbilly musicians flocked to. Not Los Angeles. Not New York. Tay Tay lives in Nashville. Paltrow filmed Country Strong in Nashville. No doubt, Peter and Maggie want to now be associated with Nashville because of this project. Little brother Jake can be used to give them a foothold into the Country Music capital city and to expand their mass market appeal beyond their current fanbase, (i.e. ticket buying pubic).
That's the city where the bluegrass and hillbilly musicians (Buddy Holly? ;) ) flocked to.
You give Jake entirely too much credit. Nashville is important to country music of course. But that doesn't mean TS is going to have any influence on how well the movie does.
You are correct; this is a very Jake-centric blog. :)
I don't know anything about the validity of Jake and Taylor's romance, in fact I tend to be as skeptical of it as anyone. But some are letting their own biases influence their opinions. There is not one culture or age to generalize like that.
It's not this blog's biases, it's how Hollywood thinks. Remember, they are the ones who continue to keep A-List actors in the closet because Middle Americans won't accept them in romantic roles with women. They don't have to support their assertions with any statistical validation. It's just accepted. Business as usual.
A lot of Swift's fans support the Jake/Taylor pairing and now "love" Jake and by extension Maggie even though he was mostly known as Reese's boyfriend and the guy from Brokeback Mointain to them before. They're suddenly "big fans".
3:08 PM - it is called PUBLICITY. Do you need help with understanding that term?
But that doesn't mean TS is going to have any influence on how well the movie does.
TS isn't going to influence how well the movie does, it's the free pubility and Nashville centric universe the Gyllenhaals/Saarsgaard will be able to bask in for the next year. That's what it's all about. Perception not reality.
I thought everybody from Babblers on down hated the pairing? When did it change?
Nothing changed, what are you talking about?
Just by the subject matter of the film, is all the publicity the film will ever need. T-Bone Burnett is enough to give it credibility also, as well as the other members of the film's team - director, writer. Again, you give Jake and co. waaaaaay to much credit and influence. TS isn't going to add anything much in the way of publicity.
3:16 PM - that's bullshit and you know it.
3:16 PM #2, what will you say next, that Hollywood actors don't care about publicity? lol
I thought everybody from Babblers on down hated the pairing? When did it change?
Have you heard the broadcast media and read the tabloid stories about this fauxmance? Puhleeeeze. The Gyllenhaals are getting their names in the press constantly, these days. It's a PR wet dream. The rigged-on the payroll entertainment media is playing along and pushing this relationship for all it's worth. Remember, when Jake was not to be seen this summer? Then he tells us how private he wants his life to be. Riiiiight. But, when he emerges suddenly the miraculous, in your face conception of Swyll occurs. People who are aware of Jake's history are not fooled, but there are still tons of unsuspecting folks who have never heard of Toothy Tile. That's who the PR machine is targeting.
Romance Report for Dec. 22: Diamond-Studded Edition
So, did you hear about how Jake Gyllenhaal supposedly bought Taylor Swift an $11,000 Fender guitar to mark her recent 21st birthday? Only he didn't. Now, In Touch has upped the gift-giving ante with another dubious story about his alleged generosity, claiming he shelled out big bucks on a bracelet.
"It's an Oscar-worthy bracelet -- nearly 30 carats of colorless diamonds set in white gold," asserts a source (via Hollywood Life). "It cost Jake about $100,000, but he wanted to do something special for Taylor's birthday."
But wait, there's more. According to the tab, the actor, 30, commemorated his many (many) coffee dates with the sweetie-pie singer by satisfying her caffeine habit with "21 pounds of the best Kona coffee available, along with a coffee grinder and a coffeemaker."
The insider also shares this nugget: "And he made her a birthday card, as opposed to buying a generic one." Can't you just picture Jake with safety scissors, construction paper, glitter and Elmer's glue? Gyllenhaal's rep didn't respond to our request for comment on the spendy bracelet speculation, but we suggest taking this one with about 21 pounds of the best grains of salt available.
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T-Bone Burnett is a roots music historian. He's got way more credibility than TS and her fans ever would. People who like music generally will want to see the biopic. Buddy Holly has more in common with Bill Monroe than Muse or TS. If Destiny knew as much about country music as she just bs'd about, she'd know that. But either she's just looking to stir the pot, or carrying on about why Jake hasn't come out on her timetable yet again.
Life & Style:
Taylor Swift has Jake Gyllenhaal wrapped around her little finger. "He's fallen so hard… that he's the one chasing after her," says a source. "Everything's on her time, her rules." They're spending Christmas together, and the copy reads: "She's in control — and has Jake right where she wants him." What is she, an assassin?
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^^^ LOL!
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Old Reeke story, they just did some copy & paste.
These silly tabloid stories are meant to appeal to certain audiences. They are silly. :( I'm glad that certain actors' names are never in them.
These silly tabloid stories are meant to appeal to certain audiences.
Yes, to females and Taylor's public. Jake is just a tool.
Publicity folks. It's all about the publicity. Keep the Gyllenhaals in the news and associated with the Nashville music industry. A win-win all away around. Who cares if Jake looks like a pathetic, emasculated buffoon. Or, that he slowly looses his fanbase, which each phony attempt to ship his straight image. Sacrifices must be made for the family. Right Naomi?
^Oops! I meant, "with each phony attempt to ship his staight image."
Taylors fans are eating this "romance" up. Jake gets his name out there, Taylor gets to write a song about it (people are already anticipating the song, instant press for her next album). Jake has nothing else lined up...
Her fans don't think anything of the timing, or the similarities to his PR with Reese, or even know there's a Toothy Tile. They just see she's in a relationship with a mature, non-douchebag guy and love it. Mature being the key word as that's been a knock on Taylor for a long time. She needs to shed the Joe Jonas/Disney stigma.
I'm sure theyll be excited about Maggie being in a country related movie as well. Hence the pics with Taylor, Maggie and Ramona.
Her fans don't think anything of the timing...
Please, her fans don't use their brains much.
Haha that's my point 3:41. Theres so many obvious PR ploys in this relationship and her fanbase doesn't think anything of them. The fact that Jake and Taylor were first seen together the week her album dropped, then again the week his movie debuts, goes right past them.
Everyone seems to see through this PR stunt except a chunk of her fanbase.
Last time I looked, Buddy Holly eas called one of the first rock and roll stars. And the fact he has more in common with Monroe than Muse is EXACTLY my point, but I guess that went right over your head in your haste to slam me.
Regarding music sales, I specifically said cd sales. Teenagers do more downloading and or "steal" music rather than pay for it.
Gyllenhaal's rep didn't respond to our request for comment on the spendy bracelet speculation, but we suggest taking this one with about 21 pounds of the best grains of salt available.
We are going to need more salt for bullshit about Jake's Christmas with the beard :)
So, Maggie is hanging out with Swift to further her and Sarsgaard's career? IDK, but to me Maggie seems quite successful w/o publicity help. She has a respectable resumee and I doubt her hubby is someone who'd whore himself out just for attention for his upcoming bio flick. I guess I'm in the minority not thinking that bad of the Gyllenhaals. I don't think everything they do, they do for publicity. But I get I'm in the minority here giving the Gyllenhaals a benefit of a doubt every once in a while.
I noticed special venom towards Jake's mom. That's strange to me.
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