Montgomery Clift rolling cigarette
during shooting of 'Red River', circa 1948
during shooting of 'Red River', circa 1948
The Advocate: There are so many biographies of Montgomery Clift and numerous websites devoted to him. What was the biggest surprise you learned about him while researching your book?
Amy Lawrence: I was most impressed by Clift’s canny understanding of his own image. Many biographers depict him as refusing to participate in the Hollywood star system, but that didn’t mean he was ignorant of it. He understood how an actor’s image was built and maintained. In giving interviews or choosing roles, he knew exactly how to shape a performance to achieve the effect he wanted — and to resist the efforts of others to simplify a character. For instance, he was aware that screenwriters and directors often wanted to make the hero perfect; Clift wanted to make the character human, complicated, and not always admirable.
Q: Clift is often spoken of in context as a “gay actor” or in conjunction with Marlon Brando and James Dean. What do you see as Clift’s singular legacy?
A: Brando and Dean both thought of Clift as singular. Brando saw Clift as his only major competition, and Dean saw him as a model, an ideal to emulate. Unlike those performers, Clift’s best work has not become dated. In Red River, From Here to Eternity, A Place in the Sun, I Confess, and half a dozen others, his performances are impeccable. At his best he is never mannered or predictable. His performances are subtle, intelligent, graceful, and deeply empathetic regardless of the character’s flaws.
Q: How did Clift’s being gay — or bisexual, as some suggest — when it was still taboo affect his drinking, drug taking, and ultimate downward spiral?
A: The homophobia of the time, which intensified nationally just as Clift’s career was beginning in the late 1940s and early ’50s, certainly exerted pressure on Clift. A serious relationship with choreographer Jerome Robbins in the ’40s threatened both their careers when Robbins was blackmailed into testifying before the House Un-American Activities Committee hearings regarding communists and other “subversives” in Washington and the entertainment community. I would be hesitant, though, to cast Clift as a “sad young man,” “self-loathing homosexual,” or fit him into any other category into which gay men were sorted from the 1950s to ’70s. Alcoholism affects everyone, and in the postwar period heavy drinking was routine across the board. By the time Clift’s drinking became full-blown alcoholism, it was impossible to disentangle from his devastating car accident, the prescription painkillers he needed at the time, and his professional fear regarding the damage done to his face. In the latter part of his career, his drinking and drug taking were so dominant in his life that he couldn’t function without them. Paradoxically, at the point when he worked with unsupportive or openly hostile homophobic producers and directors, the drugs and drinking sustained him as much as they destroyed him.
Q: You write about the fan magazines of the 1950s that frequently used sexually suggestive headlines such as “Who Is Monty Kidding?” How well known was the truth about Clift’s sexuality during that era?
A: Clift worked in a period when fan magazines were challenged by scandal magazines, each promising “the truth” about stars’ private lives. Ironically, even the scandal rags did not want any “truth” firmly established because that would rob them of the chance to repeatedly tantalize readers with the next promised exposé. Biographical information suggests that people who worked with Clift always “knew” in exact proportion to what they wanted to know. Fans likewise. Everyone minimized the complexity of Clift’s emotional relationships — with men, older women, young women — in order to maintain the image of the actor that appealed to them most.
Q: A recent article in Newsweek suggests audiences can’t accept gay actors as romantic leading men when we know the truth about their real-life sexuality and uses Rock Hudson as an example. How do you think this applies to Clift, who had such intense chemistry on-screen with Elizabeth Taylor and other actresses?
A: When audiences think they know something about an actor’s personal sexuality it becomes available as a touchstone to spectators watching a performance but is never mandatory. People judging a performance often appreciate it most the more it varies from what we think we know about the performer — casting against type, nice people playing psychos, beautiful actresses playing ugly. If we think of Clift as an actor, then his persuasiveness as a romantic lead opposite Taylor, Olivia de Havilland, or Jennifer Jones increases our appreciation of his skill as he seems to become inseparable from the role.
Another issue is history itself. As new generations are introduced to Clift and Hudson, they often react to the performers without knowing any biographical information about them. They are also less invested in “the truth” than those who experienced a change in their perception through revelations and the exposure of secrets. The freer sexuality of Brando or Dean, for instance, has not come to dominate their images.
Q: How do you think Clift would have fared personally and professionally if he began his career today, with the intrusion of the Internet and paparazzi?
A: The intrusion of the media today is offset by the openness of some gay performers — though not romantic leading men just yet. As Tom Cruise’s career shows, it is possible to withstand rumors and media speculation if you have the power and the will to do so. Because Clift was never as closeted as Rock Hudson, I don’t believe he would fight terribly hard to maintain the illusion of offscreen heterosexuality. He might be more likely to take a Keanu Reeves approach, where the actor neither courts nor tries to dispel the fantasies of any fan. In several roles in the severely repressive 1950s he even courted audiences to read his characters — and maybe himself — as gay in the casually flirtatious scenes in Red River, the rejection of heterosexual relationships in I Confess, Suddenly, Last Summer, and Freud, the material on gay Army life that acts as a subtext throughout From Here to Eternity, and the relationship with Frank Sinatra’s character in the film.
Source: Advocate, The Most Beautiful Man in Film
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If I were to write the words "Ewan McGregor" and "gay movie" in the same sentence, one might naturally assume I'd be referring to the upcoming (and much delayed) release of I Love You Philip Morris starring McGregor and Jim Carrey.
But McGregor actually has a second gay-themed movie currently making the rounds. The less familiar one is called Beginners which just made its debut at the Toronto International Film Festival. But this time McGregor isn't playing gay; it's Christopher Plummer who has that honor.
In Beginners, the 80-year-old Plummer plays Hal, a 75-year-old man who decides to finally come out of the closet after his wife of five decades has died of cancer. Unfortunately for Hal, he too eventually dies from cancer, but only after first having lived five years as an out gay man.
The film is based on what actually happened when Beginners' director Mike Mills lived almost the exact same scenario when his own father came out under the same circumstances. AfterElton.com hasn't yet seen the movie, but based on reports from Toronto, Hal's coming out isn't anguished, and his son, played by McGregor, isn't troubled over the revelation.
Rather it forces him to reevaluate how he has dealt with his own heterosexual love life.
...
After Elton
PoP - Silly hats competition was fierce!
Jerry can't be easily impressed
Happy Birthday, Tom Hardy!
Can't believe no one remember! ;D
Can anyone spot BT?
Happy Birthday, Tom Hardy! Feel free to provide us with more gay rumors!
Ah yes happy birthday, Tom!
Cannot wait to see him as Mad Max!
Tom, want to hang out?
PoP - Silly hats competition was fierce!
LOL
In Beginners, the 80-year-old Plummer plays Hal, a 75-year-old man who decides to finally come out of the closet...
Jake, we are young, but can't wait 45-50 years for your coming out or next gay role. Please keep that in mind. Thanks in advance!
Michelle looks very cute with the short hair but, my.. that girl has the charisma of a brick.
Anne is less pretty but she can invade the screen.
Imagine an actress with Michelle's looks and Anne's intensity.
That would be the perfect co-star for Jake G.! :)
Anne is less pretty but she can invade the screen.
To me she's the new, but more talented Julia Roberts.
Thanks, but no thanks! I will imagine an actor with Ricky Martin looks and Adam Lambert intensity - that would be the perfect co-star for Jake G.! :)
Disagree. Jake said he admired Ryan Gosling. So, to me Ryan would be an actor I'd like Jake to see act with.
Ryan and Jake wouldn't work on screen.
Ryan and Jake wouldn't work on screen.
Why?
Ryan and Jake wouldn't work on screen.
^^
You mean as a couple ala Jack&Ennis or wouldn't work well in a buddy movie?
They are too similar, both look like nice, clean cut mama's boys.
You mean as a couple ala Jack&Ennis or wouldn't work well in a buddy movie?
Both.
Ryan
Jake
I think they'd have good chemistry together. :)
They are too similar, both look like nice, clean cut mama's boys.
So what? I still think they'd work well together.
So that would make them less interesting.
I still think they'd work well together.
I'm talking about movie I would like to watch, not Jake and Ryan cooking on the movie set together :)
hot Ryan
hot (imo) Jake
I think they should play enemies!! :)
I'm talking about movie I would like to watch, not Jake and Ryan cooking on the movie set together :)
Me too. ;)
I think they should play enemies!! :)
Good idea. I like that! :D
Who would be bad guy?
Duh! I'm too beautiful to play a bad guy!
Who would be bad guy?
Ryan...probably.
Both of them!!!
R
J
Hoodies.
And Tom Hardy would play a good guy, male nurse?
Leather jacket:
R
J
Tom Hardy would be the left hand of the bad guy.
OK, OK, Ryan could play my ugly brother!
I think Ryan is manlier, but Jake is so cuddly and cute.
What? A movie without good guys? How would that work?
Isn't Jake the good guy?
Not in this movie! :)
Jake could also play the younger brother of George Clooney in a movie. :)
Good thinking!
Will there be incest in the movie?
Jake said...
Will there be incest in the movie?
Jake if you are lucky, you can hook up with Georgie boy off screen. ;)
Sorry Jake, George has a new boy toy.
boy toys are expensive. Jake would do it for free! ;D
Boy toy is 17.
6:40 PM wins.
LOL :)
Jake, maybe George wouldn't mind sharing? ;)
Ryan and Jake wouldn't work on screen.
They are too similar, both look like nice, clean cut mama's boys.
I agree, and take away his talent Ryan is as bland as they come. Jake should team up with a 'bad boy' kind of actor with opposite looks and onscreen presence. Now THAT would be hot to watch!
*sigh*
hot Ryan
I think you mean bloated ;)
Bad 6:55 PM, lol!
I really don't understand what's so appealing about Gosling. He is not even good looking!
I really don't understand what's so appealing about Gosling. He is not even good looking!
He's sexy and talented = turn on.
Justin Timberlake is gettting Oscar buzz for Fincher's Social Network.
ONTD
Ryan could play Jake's ugly brother (they look somewhat similar only Jake is good looking) and Clooney would be the bad guy who tries to seduce Jake.
What??? Facebook is so 2005.
Ryan could play Jake's ugly brother (they look somewhat similar only Jake is good looking) and Clooney would be the bad guy who tries to seduce Jake.
LOL. You have to promise me to never write movie scripts. ;)
Clooney would be the bad guy who tries to seduce Jake
... and use him to get access to Pentagon secrets, but they fall in love, escape and live happily ever after on Vieques Island, Puerto Rico.
That would be a great script! Although i'd change Clooney for Clive Owen :P
Clooney is softer, tenderer ...
Jake is very pretty so he should be paired up with a hot rugged manly man to balance it out. Sparks would fly! Clive Owen is not a bad suggestion, he's rugged and manly, and has a sexy voice.
There's no reason to tear Ryan down just because he can outact Jake with two hands tied around his back and in a coma.
What about Viggo?
Oh,Yeah! Bring on Vigoo! just don't tell Orlando Bloom... ;)
Softer, tenderer ... we are talking about perfect steak, right? Finally! I'm hungry!
To me she's the new, but more talented Julia Roberts."
Julia was much prettier in her prime (than Anne) and MUCH more charismatic. Anne is a good actor but vastly overhyped.
Oh,Yeah! Bring on Vigoo! just don't tell Orlando Bloom... ;)
LOL!
I used to think that Viggo would make a great older Ennis...he's the only one who could.
Ryan is not bad looking. Here he is in Toronto at the BV premiere, looking good w/o his Michelle.
getty
Michelle is still filming?
Jack is dead, Heath is dead. BBM is a masterpiece and should be left alone. Period.
Tom Hardy: Happy Birthday, Darling! :*
Michelle is still filming?
I don't think she's still filming in Toronto, otherwise she'd be at the premiere. She was in Venice promoting MC a few days ago.
Jack is dead, Heath is dead. BBM is a masterpiece and should be left alone. Period.
I think most would agree with you. I sure do.
Clooney is softer, tenderer ...
You should see him in The American!
I think most would agree with you. I sure do.
Yes, I think I finally agree with this too.
You should see him in The American!
Tough from the outside, but vulnerable and soft inside - who could ask for more!
^^I never expected it. It is a wonderful movie. :) Swoon. He's still got it.
Ryan seems nice but his face is too asymmetrical and average for me to find him attractive. Nothing about his looks stands out.
I always thought Jake should find a hot and nice older man to be with.
7:35 PM, tell that to Lainey if you dare!
I always thought Jake should find a hot and nice older man to be with.
Jake, quit slutting around and start looking for boyfriend/husband material!
Tough from the outside, but vulnerable and soft inside - who could ask for more!
George is tres sexy in The American, and he has one hell of a love scene. The story is great, and the cinematography is amazing.
Just caught up - I've decided that Jake needs to fire all his people and just hang out here and listen to us, lol.
I agree. :)
I like jake and chris together. I think they look a lot alike in many pics, but they are different in many ways too. For a RL couple, i think they have enough contrast to keep things interesting but enough in common to keep it good. I hope we'll get more pics of them together in the upcoming months. In a way, i'm glad Jake has MV to hide out on, but i miss getting to see what he's up to. S.
I agree, MV is the best place to hide out :)
Two-thirds in Ireland now approve of gay marriage: "A huge majority 91 per cent do not think less of a person if they are gay or lesbian, again a huge jump in the numbers. On the question of whether gay couples should adopt children the Irish seem divided with 46 per cent supportive, 38 per cent opposing and the rest unsure."
TORONTO: The Toronto deals are exploding! Anchor Bay Films has just closed all English-speaking rights to Beautiful Boy, the Shawn Ku-directed drama. I'm told the deal was 7-figures, negotiated by Paradigm Motion Picture Finance Group's Ben Weiss with Anchor Bay Films' Kevin Kasha. Deal includes a P&A commitment. Lightning Entertainment is selling foreign. It stars Maria Bello and Michael Sheen as disengaged parents of a college student who discover not only that he has been killed in a campus shooting, but that he was the triggerman who massacred other students. The picture premiered Sunday and has been a topic of buzz, particularly for those strong lead performances and Ku's and Michael Armbruster's script.
http://www.deadline.com/2010/09/breaking-in-toronto-anchor-bay-acquires-beautiful-boy/
OMG it is JG's legs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOcGhmv_avg
What about his legs?
Talking about legs - why is Jake's left leg so thin here?
Ay! :)
I hope we'll get more pics of them together in the upcoming months.
Maybe Chris visiting Jake during winter time? That would be nice + spending time with 'real people' like Chris must be good for Jake.
Poor, mentally ill SK at 5:24 and 6:03, still using FlourescentLamp's name for your shit, you tried it with the Jake is straight blog and lied and said she did it when it was you and now this.
If you actually believed they were his legs you woudn't keep posting that picture over and over again, I hope you are giving Frost $$$ for posting or credit.
Ted won't post the pic after bombarding him with it, LOL!!!
Things are dead for the online Jake fandom, dead due to the shit you have been pulling among other things
BTW, Jake is on MV , Austin is working in NC. I know you hate OTH and hate that Austin has a steady job so you can't create fake sightings.
BTW, you are one sick motherfucker, if I posted the e-mails from former OMG posters online, they would come to Boston and throw a net over your head and drag you away.
8:24 AM, no one is using FlourescentLamp's name and babblers created "Jake is straight" blog - your attempts to change the history are silly.
8:24 AM keeps forgetting that we have DC forum and GB as PROOF that UV, FlourescentLamp and babblers are batshit crazy.
If you actually believed they were his legs you woudn't keep posting that picture over and over again
If you really believed that those aren't Jake's legs around Austin you wouldn't be so pissed off by the picture.
8:24 AM - trolly? Believe it or not, I will agree about one thing with you - taking discussion offline (e-mails) didn't help Jake's fandom.
Whoever posted that picture on Youtube needs help. Those legs around Austin's neck could be any woman's legs, AnY!
I don't blame Jake for getting out of HW. Some fans of Jake really need help and they need a life. Not make a life out of following Jake. So what the f*** if he's gay. He does not deserve immature and derange fans who have nothing to do but rant the he and Austin are together forever and try to tell the world when all obvious and rationale says they are not.
Speculating about the legs being Jake years ago may have been fun then, but to continue this obsessive and childish bullshit years later then post it on Youtube says something about the deranged person who calls themself a fan. They really need a life and need to stop trying to life Jake's life. It's really scary. I hope it's not Special K.
^^ and it's says something that Youtube won't let any comments be made about the pictures. They will probably take it down next.
Those legs around Austin's neck could be any woman's legs, AnY!
Look more like man's legs. After seeing side by side pictures of Jake's legs it is easy to see how similar they are.
I didn't even click on the silly youtube link - best to just ignore that stuff (which is ancient history anyway and has nothing to do with the present). Best not to give it more publicity and more hits. Whoever posted the link is just trying to stir up crap.
Man's legs, Jake's legs, it's clear that after attempts by SK to make the pic more visible after faiing to do so posting on OMG over and over she has gone he youtube route. She is free to do what she wants but it's sleazy to use another blogger name, why not use SK and OMG, what is she ashamed of ? How childish.
Please, stop that bullshit, I know SK wouldn't do anything like that and she has no reason to do it.
ANY TROLL could post a video and use it to trash SK and JiG fans.
I don´t think it was Special K but also definitly not FL - some people are just batshit crazy.
But being there I took the chance watching JGL performing "Bad Romance" again, what a lovable guy....!
Ellen inspired Lynch to 'come out'
Glee actress Jane Lynch vowed to 'come out' after TV host Ellen DeGeneres inspired her by publicly discussing her sexuality.
The TV star, who married her partner Lara Embry in May, spent years hiding the truth about her preferences and was terrified of her secret becoming public.
But when DeGeneres came out after appearing on the cover of Time magazine in 1997, Lynch felt it was time to do the same.
She tells DeGeneres, "I used to lay in bed and go, 'How will I come out or will I come out?'
"You were at the height of your fame and you came out. And that just blazed a trail for me. It really did. It made it so much easier for me, what you did."
Lynch also admits she found coming out easier because she isn't an A-list Hollywood star: "It's because I'm a character actor, I think. If Julia Roberts were gay, I think it would be harder. She's an ingenue."
it's says something that Youtube won't let any comments be made about the pictures. They will probably take it down next.
Posters decide if they want comments or not. Why would YouTube take it down, is there something offensive in the video?
It says "comments are deactivated"....it is not possible to comment.
I've seen that before, nothing unusual, you can deactivate ratings (like / dislike) too.
lol, get off ya moral high horses - a few weeks back someone was posting photoshopped pics of Jake catching a flying penis. Can't recall the pearl clutchers piping up back then!
There is no reason for pearl clutching - the only problem here is fake(?) user name, not video content.
OMG it is JG's legs! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOcGhmv_avg
OMG posters know about better pictures of Jake's legs where you can see this hollow part.
Fake? I didn't realise FL has world-wide exclusive rights for the use of that name. I'll be right back, I'm going out to buy a fluores... errr sorry, light bulb.
"OMG posters know about better pictures of Jake's legs"
Have they posted them??
Yes, those pictures were posted as part of one OMG post and you can see that hollow part (please excuse my bad English).
I don't think it's Jake's legs. They look like women's legs, slender and hair-less. Also, Jake's not the type to do pics like that I think. Yes, he's soft, but also a quite manly, no bullshit kind of man. IDK. Not his style in my opinion. But who knows?
Yes, those pictures were posted as part of one OMG post and you can see that hollow part
Is it possible to repost them here?
Have they posted them??
OMG - Thursday, January 15, 2009 - Jogged Memory
No one from OMG posted a video on YouTube, especially not Special, who says she has never ever posted anything on YouTube.
It was clearly a troll who put it up in the middle of the night, then started bashing Special.
You're sure worked up what you insist is just a pair of women's legs around Austin.
I guess you're also all worked up over the fact that Reeke and POP were disasters for Jake, like most of us predicted. Not our fault that he has bad management and has made bad decisions about his career and image. Not our fault that he's apparently "hiding" from all that.
OMG - Thursday, January 15, 2009 - Jogged Memory
Sorry, I don't see it. The hollow part on the foot with the heel is more protruded than on Jake's foot.
And Jake's thigh appears more muscular than the one on Austin's shoulder. Those just look like women's legs to me.
No one from OMG posted a video on YouTube, especially not Special
lol, in rides the first of the moonbat brigade.
The hollow part on the foot with the heel is more protruded than on Jake's foot.
Different angle + different lighting.
Whose idea was it that it could be Jake's legs in the first place?Some reliable info, or just wishful thinking?
Those just look like women's legs to me.
Those big and ugly feet don't belong to a woman.
E-mail Frost and ask, simple. I assume SK did and got no answer, but I'll try.
10:30 AM, trolly, I bet you posted that video!
Those big and ugly feet don't belong to a woman.
We don't know if the feet are ugly, they are in shoes. And some women have big feet too.
E-mail Frost and ask, simple.
Frost would ever admit that Jake likes to wear woman's clothing???
We don't know if the feet are ugly, they are in shoes.
I've seen man's feet in shoes before.
Frost would ever admit that Jake likes to wear woman's clothing???
Now Jake secretly likes to wear woman's clothing? He has/had a secret relationship with Austin, one or two kids and sleeps with directors to get roles. And I'm curious what will be added.
Most likely scenario is that Jake had a short term fling with Austin which is over now. They probably stayed friends, but not close ones. Most of Ted's stories are bullshit to me.
"Those big and ugly feet don't belong to a woman"
Have you seen Annes feet in the LAOD poster???
Yes, they are beautiful.
Most likely scenario is that Jake had a short term fling with Austin which is over now.
A relationship, not a fling.
10.42 #1, stop playing dumb.
10.42 #1, stop playing dumb.
You better stop believing in BS.
Now Jake secretly likes to wear woman's clothing?
What do you mean by "now"?
We are discussing an old picture again so 'Jake likes to wear woman's clothing' is an old speculation.
You better stop believing in BS.
No one is believing - we have photographs, evidence, proof.
All gay men like to wear woman's clothes and camp it up!
10:55 AM, why are you obsessed with SK? She must be doing something RIGHT to piss you off like this, LOL.
Go back to OMG you batshit crazy nut at 10:55, we do have evidence of your homophobia, your hatred of other women and your insanity.
I hope Frost does'nt ignore my e-mail
10:55 AM, 10:56 AM, Trolly, I know you can't comprehend it, but being gay and wearing woman's clothes is OK!
Not obsessed with SK, but she is OBSESSED, and we are curious to why she does the things she does.
PS: She never does anything right, and what she pulled today is a good example, the paper trail leads to her.
She's batshit crazy
Trolly, I know you can't comprehend it, but being gay and wearing woman's clothes is OK!
It is ok. But not all gay men like to wear women's clothes. We have no evidence that Jake does either.
lol at this entire "conversation." Way too much attention being paid to a stupid picture taken years ago that proves nothing. Nothing at all to signify it's Jake's legs except wishful thinking to fulfill a fantasy. The idea that someone is spending time studying legs, ankles, feet, etc. so closely is pathetic. Please. It's not a freaking CIA document discovered by covert spies, it's a dumb picture. Having said that, although I find 90% of the stuff SK posts on OMG cringeworthy, I don't think SK put it on youtube and I do think it was a troll trying to start trouble.
We have no evidence that Jake does either.
I think we do.
Remember that picture of Frost with long hair wig?
10:59 You are a straight woman, you know zero about gay men. And FYI, gay and straight men wear women's clothing for various reasons but your sterotype of gay men due the fact that you live in a trailer park and get all your info from reading slash and gossip blogs is no surprise.
Is it all right for a straight man to wear woman's clothes or is that not cool by you trolly?
I think we do.
What evidence do we have?
The idea that someone is spending time studying legs, ankles, feet, etc. so closely is pathetic.
You know that isn't so - this picture could be a proof of Jake's gayness.
Have you seen Annes feet in the LAOD poster???
She's not a tiny woman, her feet aren't tiny either. Her feet look alright.
11:04 Sure "we" do SK, now run off to the unemployment center.
Ohhhh, Frost had on a wig for Halloween in that pic, you know what that means!!
LOL!!! The legs are his and Jake took the pic, LOL!!!
The thigh around Austin has a bit of cellulite. At least it looks like it to me.
"You know that isn't so - this picture could be a proof of Jake's gayness."
As long as we see no face the picture proves nothing!
"lol at this entire "conversation." Way too much attention being paid to a stupid picture taken years ago that proves nothing. Nothing at all to signify it's Jake's legs except wishful thinking to fulfill a fantasy. The idea that someone is spending time studying legs, ankles, feet, etc. so closely is pathetic. Please. It's not a freaking CIA document discovered by covert spies, it's a dumb picture. Having said that, although I find 90% of the stuff SK posts on OMG cringeworthy, I don't think SK put it on youtube and I do think it was a troll trying to start trouble."
The first intelligent comment I have read here during the last hour.
What evidence do we have?
The photograph. No one can prove 100% that legs belong to Jake, but those could be Jake's legs, no one can deny that either.
11:06: You have to be from OMG, wearing woman's clothing is not proof of someone's gayness since lots of straight men cross dress
LOL! You already manage to forget that those LEGS ARE AROUND ANOTHER MAN. That's very, very gay.
11:12 AM, projecting much? YOU are the one who sends all kind of shit to Ted and gossip blogs, we didn't forget.
WOW, trolly is very upset by that photo, I wonder why?
Following Jake for years now as a fan, I wouldn't peg him as someone secretly enjoying woman's clothes and shoes.
Sorry 11:23 AM, but that's like saying you have an idea what kind of sex toys Jake likes.
The first intelligent comment I have read here during the last hour.
Thanks, 11:13am :)
You know that isn't so - this picture could be a proof of Jake's gayness.
LOL. I don't even know where to begin with such a ridiculous statement. Please take this embarrassing stuff back to OMG. If you think there is any "proof" of anything in that picture I'm afraid you may have lost touch with reality.
What is ridiculous about the statement that people can be recognized based on photographs of their body parts and that men in dresses with their legs around other men are usualy gay, 11:27 AM?
Please do tell, if you can.
no one can deny that either.
That's not evidence and it's not proof. It's speculation - and wild speculation at best. It's absurd to use "no can deny" as a basis for proof or evidence. I can't deny that there is a possibility that the world will end tomorrow. Just like I can't deny the possibility that Jake will come out tomorrow - I think the odds are the same for both, lol.
11:32 AM - Jake legs are very similar to legs in that picture. The point - it could be his legs, you can't rule him out.
people can be recognized based on photographs of their body parts
Get real. There are no distinguishing characteristics of body parts in that photograph. If you had an ounce of objectivity about any of this you would realize that.
The point - it could be his legs,you can't rule him out.
Sorry, you're the one missing the point. You can't "rule out" millions of people. Big effing deal.
Ok, it's Jake's legs. He and Austin are still together even though it seems they don't spend much time together and are hiding one or two tots somewhere.
Happy now?
I think a sane, halfway intelligent person would think this blog is absolutely ridic.
I admit TT started out intriguing, but the more I read the more ridiculous all the stories sound. I've no idea why I'm still here, I guess I'm used to visit this blog regularly. But some comments are too crazy and childish to bear sometimes.
but the more I read the more ridiculous all the stories sound.
Maybe because there is no TT and fanfic is always over the top.
11:36 AM, please read comments. One more time just for you:
The idea that someone is spending time studying legs, ankles, feet, etc. so closely is pathetic.
You know that isn't so - this picture could be a proof of Jake's gayness.
--> It is reasonable to study the photo because it could be proof of Jake being gay. And I'm sure you know that different men have different feet, no need to work for CSI to know that.
Maybe because there is no TT and fanfic is always over the top.
Of course! There are NO closeted actors in Hollywood!!!
Ok, it's Jake's legs. He and Austin are still together even though it seems they don't spend much time together and are hiding one or two tots somewhere.
Happy now?
Why are you making up that shit???
What Jake and Austin being or not being a couple at this moment has to do with a 3-4 years old picture?
NO ONE said not implied that Jake being in that photo equals 'Jake and Austin are together and have kids'.
I think a sane, halfway intelligent person would think this blog is absolutely ridic.
... But some comments are too crazy and childish to bear sometimes.
I'm sure you can recognize trolly comments. What is crazy and childish about speculating about a photo?
I think a sane, halfway intelligent person would think this blog is absolutely ridic.
Huh??? What is ridiculous? One example, please.
You're sure worked up what you insist is just a pair of women's legs around Austin.
^^ No Destiny, I'm worked up because of the stupidity that gets slug around as facts by some, such as the Legs and Austin picture. Then try and pimp it around the net as a factual picture of a known actor who is hiding in the closet to try and generate discussion about it on a well known entertainment/social site. This may support your agenda of outing in the closet actors even though you don't know "WHO'S" legs they are.
It's "WISHFUL" thinking that they are Jake's legs and anyone who says they are his legs needs help too. This includes YOU.
Of course! There are NO closeted actors in Hollywood!!!
Well sorry to say Jake is not one of them, you will realise that one day and you will go pop titty pop, can't wait.
It's "WISHFUL" thinking that they are Jake's legs
That is your OPINION. Some other people have different OPINIONS.
Well sorry to say Jake is not one of them...
LMAO - thanks for the laugh! :)
Well sorry to say Jake is not one of them
Ignorant Gaydar Free Troll, thanks for revealing yourself.
Thank you 11:56, we know the agenda of some of Jake's "fans".
Then try and pimp it around the net as a factual picture of a known actor who is hiding in the closet to try and generate discussion about it on a well known entertainment/social site.
Which site(s)? Link(s) please!
Maybe because there is no TT and fanfic is always over the top.
But yet you're here, lol.
Then try and pimp it around the net as a factual picture of a known actor who is hiding in the closet to try and generate discussion about it on a well known entertainment/social site.
So?
People are free to discuss Jake's bearding photos, tabloid fiction and PR crap, but no one should discuss anything that could prove Jake's gayness?
to try and generate discussion about it on a well known entertainment/social site.
Wait, what? Are you talking about youtube? I didn't follow the link because the picture is stupid, but I thought someone said the comments were disabled. A discussion can't be generated if the comments are disabled, lol.
there are some straight men who wear women clothes..(watched a show on TLC) and then there are cross dressers..men who really want to become women...on the flip side women wear men clothes also...Big t-shirts and nothing else...I have even ...
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=2006060618.
10:59 You are a straight woman, you know zero about gay men. And FYI, gay and straight men wear women's clothing for various reasons but your sterotype of gay men due the fact that you live in a trailer park and get all your info from reading slash and gossip blogs is no surprise.
Since you obviously didn't bother to look at the picture or just love to play stupid - those LEGS ARE AROUND ANOTHER MAN and that's gay.
there are some straight men who wear women clothes
Straight men don't wrap their legs around other man's necks and shoulders.
Wait, what? Are you talking about youtube? I didn't follow the link because the picture is stupid, but I thought someone said the comments were disabled. A discussion can't be generated if the comments are disabled, lol.
^^ TRy! Try and generate discussion. OK
For the sake of argument/discussion let's say that pic that OMG likes to post over and over is Jake. I don't know if it is or isn't. How exactly does that prove gayness again? We know he's friends with both guys. It's part of a photoshoot. Not a stolen photo from the bedroom.
Straight men don't wrap their legs around other man's necks and shoulders.
LOL you don't spend a lot of time looking at avant garde photos do you.
LOL you don't spend a lot of time looking at avant garde photos do you.
Sorry, that's not even a nice try! lol indeed
For the sake of argument/discussion let's say that pic that OMG likes to post over and over is Jake. I don't know if it is or isn't. How exactly does that prove gayness again? We know he's friends with both guys. It's part of a photoshoot. Not a stolen photo from the bedroom.
Straight men love to shave legs, wear dresses and high heels and sit on their male friends shoulders. Do you agree?
It's part of a photoshoot.
Since when? We have seen just one photo.
12:16: You ignorant, homophobic fang: Eat shit and die already.
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