August 4, 2010 - Proposition 8 ruled unconstitutional
From the ruling: "Proposition 8 fails to advance any rational basis in singling out gay men and lesbians for denial of a marriage license. Indeed the evidence shows Proposition 8 does nothing more than enshrine in the California constitution the notion that opposite sex couples are superior to same sex couples."
Source: Judge Hands Victory to Proposition 8 Opponents, Gay-Marriage Ban Overturned
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Most are much more interested in covering up their homosexuality, not procreating
*cough*
Thanks for the laugh 11:22 - I can just picture them all sweating it out until their break at work to bang out an email to save their TT-GG-BT(+n) Truman Show
But Jake and Austin are exception to the rule, right? Right?
Nah.
While Stephen Moyer and Anna Paquin wear a "sock" and a "patch", respectively, while filming nude scenes for True Blood, Alexander Skarsgard tells Rolling Stone that he won't wear anything: "I don't want a sock around it, that feels ridiculous. If we’re naked in the scene, then I’m naked. I’ve always been that way."
And we'll keep seeing it according to creator Alan Ball: "To me, vampires are sex. I don't get a vampire story about abstinence. I'm 53. I don't care about high school students. I find them irritating and uninformed."
In related news, Pretty on the Outside offers up an alternate three-way male Rolling Stone cover.
Also in related news, I doubt anyone had a sock around it in this scene from Skarsgard's Swedish film The Dog Trick...
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In related news, Pretty on the Outside offers up an alternate three-way male Rolling Stone cover.
Much better ;)
Once again someone here has proved they DON'T KNOW HOW TO READ!
Ted used the word "most". "Most are much more interested in covering up their homosexuality, not procreating,
There is nothing in what he said that can be characterized as his backing off on BT.
By the way, all the carrying on yesterday about Austin and Sophia, a lot of the posts sounded like someone who used to post under the name Passingby on OMG, probably a young girl, who was obssessed with making OMG believe Sophin was real. Someone using that name also posted on JJ's post on Jake and talking the same way about Jake and Aniston.
There is nothing in what he said that can be characterized as his backing off on BT.
Of course there is - this is the first step towards "sorry, no BT".
Not that it matters anyway - there is no BT and no Jake/Austin.
Is she trying to say that she's in favor of gay marriage but it's okay by her if the majority is allowed to vote on, and take away, the rights of a minority?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck Can't Seem to Make Up Her Mind!
The View's Elisabeth Hasselbeck tries to clear up some misconceptions about her in an interview with Fancast:
"I am not ultra-ultra-conservative on every issue. I actually support gay marriage. I think the gay marriage thing would definitely surprise people. I mean, for some people, it will surprise them to the point that they won’t want to hear it. 'No, that can’t be, I really want to have this sort of idea of her in my head,' so I sort of rain on their parade there. I am a person that does believe that life begins at conception, but I also don’t believe that the government should tell women what to do with their bodies. So I’m torn there in terms of supporting laws [for or against abortion]. I always say I would rather change a heart than a law. I think it has to start there. Always trying to mandate, mandate, mandate this or that is not the way that I believe this country should run."
In December 2008, Hasselbeck irked Melissa Etheridge on The View with regard to Prop 8, arguing that the majority should be allowed to vote on the rights of the minority. Hasselbeck also seemed to struggle with the concept of marriage equality in a discussion with Portia de Rossi a year later, asking "Take men and women. Women want all the rights of men, but they're not asking to be called men. Do you think...is the word [marriage] more important than the rights?"
And 1:24, you sound just like SK or PG. Justifying Ted because if you don't believe everything he sells then Houston we have a problem.
Unfortunately, BT believers turned into BT babblers.
Because JGL fans will go awwww...
Watch Joseph Gordon-Levitt Sing '(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman' on Monday night
Awwwww!
Anon 1:24 Is that you Special K lurking as an Anon? Rushing to defend the Jake,Austin,Babytile Love affair fiasco Ted started?
Give a rest. Please
who was obssessed with making OMG believe Sophin was real.
^^ Are you not obssessed with making OMG posters and others believe they are "not" real.
Ted used the word "most". "Most are much more interested in covering up their homosexuality, not procreating,
Jake and Austin are a part of this, "Most".
Can't you see this? Most Can.
PA/EA here. When its good, its the best job in the world. When its bad, its horrific.
In my last job, I enjoyed the perks: limos, flying here and there and top quality hotels when travelling for meetings for my boss.
I did not enjoy, getting yelled at b/c the diet cokes were warm, his limo was 2 mins late, or taking my lunch break going to buy gifts for his 2 spoiled brats. He was definately high-maintenance.
Now, I have a much less stressful job, doing same thing but for someone who hates the limelight. And therefore no limos or private jets. But I have my sanity back and I can sleep without grinding my teeth down.
And yes, JLo is being a cheap skate bitch trying to pay a salary of 55k for someone on call 6 days a week, who may have to cook and change diapers.
^^^^ who is this supposed to be?
Because JGL fans will go awwww...
I heard this. He's just outstanding. This was beautiful, simply done with just a voice and guitar, and he has the most wonderful voice. I'm starting to really adore him, he's extremely talented, and very attractive. Hesher looks great too, I love the character. :)
who is this supposed to be?
Confidential agreements = no names :)
Ryan Reynolds has been cast opposite Denzel Washington in the upcoming thriller Safe House. As we reported last week, Reynolds was the front-runner on a short list of actors jockeying for the highly-contested role. Other stars considered for the part included Sam Worthington, Shia LaBeouf, and Zac Efron. Per Deadline, “The film centers on a young CIA agent (Reynolds) who must transport a dangerous criminal (Washington) to safety after both are attacked at a safe house.” Basically, it sounds like 3:10 to Yuma, but Vulture described it as Three Days of the Condor crossed with Collateral. Daniel Espinosa will direct from a script by David Guggenheim.
Ryan Reynolds Moves into SAFE HOUSE with Denzel Washington
Are you not obssessed with making OMG posters and others believe they are "not" real.
Austin and Sophia aren't real. They both lied about the "relationship" (and were caught lying), and they don't manage to look like a real couple.
Austin and Sophia aren't real. They both lied about the "relationship" (and were caught lying), and they don't manage to look like a real couple.
they lied when, 2006? That was then, it's 2010 now. Different time, different years.
Them not looking like a couple is a matter of yours and some others opinion and, perception. And maybe "wishes", but it does not make it true. That is a Fact.
they lied when, 2006? That was then, it's 2010 now. Different time, different years.
In 2007 and 2010. Lies do not turn into truth after a few years and liars don't turn into honest persons.
Them not looking like a couple is a matter of yours and some others opinion and, perception.
Just like your opinion and perception, no one have hard facts.
But you don't have any argument to support your opinion, do you?
^^^ no one has
Just like your opinion and perception, no one have hard facts.
ahh, an admission of you not having any facts based on your theory. I have not claim to know the truth. Read Again.
But you don't have any argument to support your opinion, do you?
It's the same as yesterday, you still can't comprehend it can you? Now go play on the highway.
It's the same as yesterday, you still can't comprehend it can you?
Zero arguments from yesterday? Repost them if you can! Well?
ahh, an admission of you not having any facts based on your theory.
Ah, it is too complicated for you. Here:
1. YOU have no hard facts
2. I have no hard facts
3. your opinion is JUST an opinion.
5:50 PM, why are you trying to sell "Austin and Sophia are real" nonsense? I'm sure you don't give a shit about them, what is your real point?
Zero arguments from yesterday? Repost them if you can! Well?
Let's try this again. The chances that Austin and Sophia are a "Real" couple lean more to being true since they are around each other very often. They travel together. Who knows, they may even sleep in the same room while on travel, bussines or work. Hey, they may even sleep in the same bed. Ever thought of that? They have been to some HW industry events together. Austin talks about her often and Sophia talks about him often which makes it way into cyberspace often. Most people their age do this.
Most of us know some of the romances are put together by studios and HW in general, but these two are often together even if Austin likes men also or Sophia likes women. I don't care what they do behind closed doors. Austin and Sophia have stated themselves recently as being a couple. Austin tweeting about his girlfriends mother.
I will repeat, the chances they are a couple is much greater than them "not" being a couple simply because they are together so often. These types of conclusions are drawn all the times with the stars and everyday people in general. See people together often, somethings going on. And since I don't "really know", just like nobody else posting here "really knows" the truth if they are a couple or not, it's all speculative. And from what has been presented or, what little I have seen and read, my conclusion is that they are a couple unless I see more. And I most likely will not see more since they don't interest me at all. Maybe since there is a strong interest with some of the posters on these site, pro Jake, Austin or Jake and Austin kaput, too much is invested in one theory or the other. I also have drawn my conclusion that He and Jake are not together anymore if they were together in the beginning, and are just good friends now.. I don't know for sure and nobody here does. But some seem to act as if they have some inside scoop on these people and they don't. This includes you.
Don't ask me again about my "Argument" Who cares if they are a couple, I just happen to feel they are. And, Austin seems to want everyone to know also.
why are you trying to sell "Austin and Sophia are real" nonsense? I'm sure you don't give a shit about them, what is your real point?
I just posted my opinion some post ago "yesterday" and it was not the main topic of my posts. I'm not selling anything.
Are you trying to sell Austin and Sophia are not a couple to everyone? Sure sounds like it.
I don't know for sure and nobody here does.
I know for sure that Jake and Austin aren't a couple, they provided more than enough proof for that.
Who knows, they may even sleep in the same room while on travel, bussines or work. Hey, they may even sleep in the same bed. Ever thought of that?
You are joking, right? You can't be serious.
Are you trying to sell Austin and Sophia are not a couple to everyone? Sure sounds like it.
LOL, everyone here already knows that Austin and Sophia are fakers.
Ryan Reynolds has been cast opposite Denzel Washington in the upcoming thriller Safe House.
Can't believe that someone so bland can have good career in Hollywood.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck Can't Seem to Make Up Her Mind!
Take men and women. Women want all the rights of men, but they're not asking to be called men. Do you think...is the word [marriage] more important than the rights?
Oh boy.
Former S Club 7 member Jon Lee has officially come out. On why he didn't come out during his group's heyday, he says “If someone had said ’are you gay?’ I would have said yes, but no one ever did." I vaguely remember their lone U.S. hit "Never Had A Dream Come True," but I know they were huge in the UK. Jon is still performing, and has moved on to acting, most recently on Casualty.
^^^ just ask! :)
I agree, someone here and at OMG is trying so desperately to convince everyone that (any combination of the four) 1.Sophia and Austin are real, 2.BT does not exist, 3.Austin is straight, 4.Jake is straight. It must be really boring at DCF and Babble these days.
5. Jake and Austin are not together.
ONTD - At Home with John Barrowman (And Scott)
Forget John. I'm in love with Scott. He has model looks. Can you believe he's older but looks younger that John?!
A gay man and a straight woman can be co-workers as well as best friends. That's not unusual. So it's not odd that best friends want to spend a lot of time together and genuinely enjoy the time they do spend together. A gay man's female best friend (who not so incidentally would benefit from the publicity of an offscreen "romance" to match their onscreen romance) makes an ideal beard. It's a win-win! :)
LOL at the recent "discussion" on the Lasher's thread at DC. UV's superior, know-it-all attitude usually manages to make others cower (the people who are left at DC anyway), so good for Sienna for standing up for herself and not backing down. The funniest thing, though, was this part of LG's mod comment about "the forbidden topic":
The reason for this rule is not because there's anything wrong with being gay, or because the mods and administration have a particular opinion about Jake's sexual orientation.
To be honest, most of the mods aren't very interested in the question. LMAO.
What did Sienna do, what did they discuss?
ONTD - At Home with John Barrowman (And Scott)
Comment: Oh the things those dogs must have seen!
Alexander Skarsgard on staying mysterious: “I don’t want people to know too much about me. It’s easier for people to suspend disbelief that way. There’s a risk when people see you in a part and they’re watching Alexander Skarsgard. Also, I learned from my father to keep your integrity and protect your family – there are certain things that you can talk about and certain things you shouldn’t talk about.”
source
That's why I talk about merkins and fake tattoos!
I agree, someone here and at OMG is trying so desperately to convince everyone that (any combination of the four) 1.Sophia and Austin are real, 2.BT does not exist, 3.Austin is straight, 4.Jake is straight. It must be really boring at DCF and Babble these days.
At least 2 of those are true IMO.
Who are you to suggest that any of it is false?
A gay man and a straight woman can be co-workers as well as best friends. That's not unusual. So it's not odd that best friends want to spend a lot of time together and genuinely enjoy the time they do spend together. A gay man's female best friend (who not so incidentally would benefit from the publicity of an offscreen "romance" to match their onscreen romance) makes an ideal beard. It's a win-win! :)
Please, Not this again. Smell the coffee. The earth won't stop rotating if Austin and Sophia are having a fling. And this is if he and Jake "did" do the nasty. Whewww, some people. What are you people so afraid of?
So-called straight bi-lezzy female stars do this all the time with men. Why not any male star? gezzzz
Exceptance people, Exceptance!
Jake and Austin are not together.
You can stick a fork in that one. It's a done deal. Let's be glad they are still friends
Who are you to suggest that any of it is false?
Don't project your issues onto my simple list.
10:46 why don't you go back to your OTH and DCF and Babble sites. Thanks.
The earth won't stop rotating if Austin and Sophia are having a fling. And this is if he and Jake "did" do the nasty.
IF?! Another joker in the house.
The earth won't stop rotating if Austin and Sophia are having a fling.
Fling??? Didn't you hear Sophia? They are "dating" for 4 years! LMAO
LOL at Skarsgard talking about privacy and mystery after thousands of photos with Kate Bosworth.
And LOL that someone is going on at such length here about Sophin, Jaustin and BT and how delusional and obsessed people are when nobody has even been really talking about those topics lately.
Destiny, what do you think about BT(s) at the moment?
I used to run hot and cold on the subject, one minute believing it and getting mad about the hiding, one minute not believing it. But after all that discussion awhile back with the photos and video of Jake in Paris, the footprint, etc., I strongly lean towards believing BT exists. I don't think there is more than one.
I don't know what to think of J&A's relationship anymore. It's sure not my idea of a relationship, but it doesn't mean they don't still have one. All the arguments thrown out above are not reasons to believe they're not still together. All it is is a description of any actor who is in the closet. You get two actors together, it's just double the bearding/closeting behavior.
All the pushing and preaching just makes me think the poster really does think Sophin are fake, Jaustin real, BT together, but somehow think it is their mission to "convert" people. It's the only reason I can think of that someone so obsessed with trying to change. You're not just expressing your opinion, you're berating people who think differently.
Makes me think just the opposite of what you're trying to sell.
That should read obsessed with trying to change people's opinions.
All the arguments thrown out above are not reasons to believe they're not still together.
Jake cares more about spending time with Chris than Austin, and we should believe that they are together and have a kid? Sorry, but that is insane.
destiny, whoever it is, they keep watch on WFT 24/7! Write something like you did and they respond with argument and berating less than 20 minutes later.
So true LOL. Do you suppose they have a bell set up on their computer that alerts them?
Whewww, some people. What are you people so afraid of?
So-called straight bi-lezzy female stars do this all the time with men. Why not any male star? gezzzz
Exceptance people, Exceptance!
Please don't preach exceptance to some posters here. They see Jake and Austin only as gay and no way possible of anything else. Don't even think of it. And this is why they keep preaching gay, beard, fauxmance, fake anytime they can or when Jake or Austin's name is mentioned. It helps with their fantasys. You can't ruin the Jake, Austin BabyTiles romantic lovefest.
Posters who are supposed to be open minded and excepting of others varied sexuality no matter what.
They are nothing but HiPPO-CRiTs!
^^ Like Destiny is the voice of Reason. Give me a break.
She's Gay but in the closet as Bi.
Talk about Jake and Austin Confussion.
Austin and Sophia are as real as Jake and Reese were. He and Jake are just taking turns bearding to give Jake a break. There is nothing in Ted's statement that implies there is no baby tile or that Ted is backing away from it. That is just wishful thinking on the part of the one obsessed with trying to prove that Jake is straight. Its coming up on a year now since the bearding with Reese ended and Jake has yet to go on a single date with a woman. Yeah hes straight alright. The JIS crowd needs to acknowledge the elephant in the room.
Over on OMG, someone posted the E story with Teds comments about closeted actors and babies and all the regulars ignored it, LOL!!!
Heads in the sand, even SK couldn't spin it!
Lastly, Kaycoff-Manos tells me, it's typical, in these types of situations, for the couple to know who the surrogate is, but not the egg donor. "We haven't had any of our high-profile clients ask for a totally anonymous surrogate," she says.
And what happens when all the egg donor/surrogate babies when they grow up and want to find their donor/surrogate mothers and if they have any other half-siblings? This is clearly going to be the hell that sealed adoption records created for millions of people. IMO all info needs to be open to the child. If someone has the audacity to donate their eggs/carry and birth a child, especially if they are getting paid to do it, the child has every frigging right to know who it is and every detail.
Colfer said he was gay in December in response to a question from late night talk show host Chelsea Handler. He joked that before he came out, he used to say he was "as straight as every other actor in Hollywood." Colfer has not spoken at length on the subject in the media, and says he's still adapting to the pressure to be a role model.
"Sometimes the stories people want from me, I just don't have them," he says. "They want me to tell inspirational stories about being gay in high school, but I don't have those. I was an outcast because I was weird, not because of sexual orientation... I think how I carry myself and how I behave from now on will speak for itself."
Chris Colfer's Journey From "Social Llama" to Glee
pretty much
maybe there are a few
not so much
Most are much more interested
Most gay couples
From Queerty: at least one Hollywood surrogacy agency (only one agency was interviewed)
2:40 #1 do you know how to read? Do you know what "absolute" "inclusion" and "exclusion" mean? What did you expect Ted to say, "Yes there's one gay couple I know who have a secret kid but I crossed my heart and promised not to tell who" ?
Maybe the OMG people didn't discuss it because it was at the end of yesterday's blog and it wasn't headline news. Of course to you it was though, because you ignored the qualifiers.
Btw the only one who thinks your comments are clever and funny is you. "LOL!"
Thurs 8:00 pm - The Locator "Sold to the Stars" Children of celebrities seek their egg donor and surrogate mothers.
Exceptance people, Exceptance!
Please don't preach exceptance to some posters here.
Can we at least get one thing straight? It's ACCEPTANCE, not "exceptance". Get a dictionary you boobs.
The arguments over whether Austin and Sophia are "real" - who gives a flying fuckity fuck? He's a tool with little talent and she's an average actress with no sense - she actually married that asshole of assholes, Chad Michael Murray. Jake is better off staying far away from these two lame famewhores.
Chris Nolan's Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) sits down and talks career, working with David O Russell, that annoying gravelly voice he had in TDK, and the next Batman.
location - the Ridge off Santa Monica Pier
date - 08/17/2010
[cut]
Benson: Okay, before we go on to that I want to get your thoughts on what it was like working with Heath Ledger and the impact of his performance.
Bale: There really isn't a single word to describe what it was like to work with Heath. What Heath brought to the set everyday was innovative and new and made working on the film almost like a journey. He'd show up and incorporate new things that he made up either on the spot or had in his pocket for some time. I'll never forget this but Heath actually delayed a day of the shoot for some hours because he was doing a scene that was incredibly out there that everyone on set was laughing hard for a long time. I was in one of the business suits that they custom made for me and I split the bottoms because I was constantly doubled over in pain from laughing so hard. It was a scene that was taken out but it involved Jonathan Crane going to the Joker for help and tries to trick him with the fear gas only for Heath to say "nope" and proceed to beat the tar out of Cillian (Murphy). I wish it stayed on but Chris and Lee Smith the editor didn't think it fit with the rest of the film. I know Heath got the attention he deserved for his performance but the moment I really felt happiness and satisfaction was when Heath got the oscar win for his performance and seeing his family accept the award it really set my worries that his legacy would be forgotten to rest you know?
There is nothing in Ted's statement that implies there is no baby tile or that Ted is backing away from it. That is just wishful thinking on the part of the one obsessed with trying to prove that Jake is straight.
Do you know how dumb you sound? Wishful thinking is believing every word that Ted says about BT.
Grow a brain cell, your one and only neuron is lonely.
^ Why isn't this scene on the TDK bluray DVD? *damn you, Warner Bros.*
link for those interested: Interview With Christian Bale
I know Heath got the attention he deserved for his performance but the moment I really felt happiness and satisfaction was when Heath got the oscar win for his performance and seeing his family accept the award it really set my worries that his legacy would be forgotten to rest you know?
How sweet is this? :)
Something that's been bothering me for a while, the posters who aren't interested please scroll by - remember soon after Heath died Insider wanted to air a tape that supposedly showed Heath doing drugs (in reality he was only talking about smoking pot)? Natalie Portman and other big HW players (Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, SJP, Ellen Page, etc) put pressure on CBS to nix the airing of the video. Don't you find it strange that Jake was not among the stars who stopped the tape from being publicized when his good friend Nat, with who Jake was working at the time in Brothers, was? Do you suppose Jake didn't want to get involved because of the drugs?
Thurs 8:00 pm - The Locator "Sold to the Stars" Children of celebrities seek their egg donor and surrogate mothers.
Help me, Mommy! I've been locked in a basement for three years!
6:28 AM, good question. I read Natalie was a party at Heath's place so I think they knew each other fairly well/were maybe friends, too.
6:28 AM, good question. I read Natalie was at a party at Heath's place so I think they knew each other fairly well/were maybe friends, too.
Do you suppose Jake didn't want to get involved because of the drugs?
No. Getting involved had nothing to do with drugs, no one thinks Natalie or Brolin are drug users because they spoke up.
Getting involved had nothing to do with drugs, no one thinks Natalie or Brolin are drug users because they spoke up.
True, but then why do you think Jake didn't get involved when a close friend of his did? Isn't it natural to assume Jake and Natalie talked about it since they were working together and the drug tape thing was making headlines? The only reason I can think of is Jake didn't want to be part of it because of the drugs.
That reason makes no sense. I can't imagine Jake reading about Heath during those days, maybe he did't know? Maybe Natalie did it without talking to Jake?
Maybe Jake didn't know about it right away, but you bet his handlers did.
Yesterday, I posted that conservative WorldNet Daily founder Joseph Farah had dumped Ann Coulter as keynote speaker at its "Taking America Back National Conference" because Coulter had agreed to speak at gay Republican group GOProud's 'Homocon' event in September.
Now Coulter is swinging back.
Capitol Hill Blue reports:
"The homophobic Farah blasted Coulter, saying 'there is simply no room (at his conference) for compromisers or for people who accept money from those determined to destroy the moral fabric required for self-governance and liberty.' Coulter fired back at Farah, calling him a 'publicity whore' and a 'swine' for publishing an email exchange between the two. Farah, Coulter said in Tweets and emails, 'could give less than two shits about the conservative movement as demonstrated by his promotion of the birther nonsense. He’s the only allegedly serious conservative pushing the birther thing and for one reason — to get hits on his web site.' ... Coulter added that she isn’t losing any money over Farah’s decision to drop her from his conference because he couldn’t afford to pay her anyway."
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Maybe Jake didn't know about it right away, but you bet his handlers did.
So?
So they probably advised him to stay out of it.
There was no reason to advise that.
I can't imagine PR, or any other people working for Jake, offering him advices on how to handle Heath's death. That would be beyond rude and inappropriate.
There was no reason to advise that.
There's one reason called "drugs". But seeing that you don't believe that's it, do you mind if I ask you why do you think Jake didn't join his friend Natalie and the others?
I can't imagine PR, or any other people working for Jake, offering him advices on how to handle Heath's death. That would be beyond rude and inappropriate.
Well, not how to privately handle it but how to publicly handle it. Cold as it may sound, that’s why he pays them, to take care of his image, to issue statements and denials etc. I think either they advised him to stay out of all things connected to Heath’s death, including the tape scandal, and he listened or for some reason Jake himself refused to get involved. FYI I'm not judging Jake, I'm just curious.
There's one reason called "drugs".
What are you talking about?
NO ONE associated drugs with Natalie Portman, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, SJP or Ellen Page, but public would associate drugs with Jake????? Is that what you're saying?
Cold as it may sound, that’s why he pays them, to take care of his image, to issue statements and denials etc.
Not true. Jake doesn't pay them to tell him how to grieve after someone close to him dies.
At this point in time, does it really matter whether Jake got on board with that? Or is this just another ploy to hate on Jake? Because it sure sounds like it.
Is that what you're saying?
I'm talking from Jake's camp's perspective, maybe they didn't want Jake's image associated with drugs. You didn't answer my question.
NO ONE associated drugs with Natalie Portman, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, SJP or Ellen Page, but public would associate drugs with Jake????? Are you serious?
At this point in time, does it really matter whether Jake got on board with that? Or is this just another ploy to hate on Jake? Because it sure sounds like it.
Don’t be so paranoid, no way I hate Jake. With no current news about Jake what is there to talk about anyway, Austin and Sophia? So I’m still curios about this, shoot me.
But seeing that you don't believe that's it, do you mind if I ask you why do you think Jake didn't join his friend Natalie and the others?
Heath was dead. Good publicity was the last thing on Jake's mind.
Good publicity was the last thing on Jake's mind.
Who said anything about good publicity, it's about helping out a dead friend. Sean Penn and Josh Brolin seem famehwores to you?
"NO ONE associated drugs with Natalie Portman, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, SJP or Ellen Page, but public would associate drugs with Jake????? "
None of the above had a close relationship with Heath. But Jake was his co-star and an intimate friend. They shared a work place and probably they used to see each other socially.
Rememmber how Heath's friends were suspected of giving him the drugs at the time he OD? Mary Kate, that model from the Wicked Games video, Josh Harnet, Naomi Campbell... all of them went to parties with Heath and the media pointed out how they liked drugs too. I know it was a stupid and probably an erroneous presumption but that's the way they presented to the public.
"Jake doesn't pay them to tell him how to grieve after someone close to him dies"
True. Jake decides how to grieve in his private life.
It is his PUBLIC image what he pays to be managed by PR agents.
Jake avoided anything gay during Reeke. Heath would remind people Jake was in BBM and went down on all fours for him.
Austin and Sophia are as real as Jake and Reese were. He and Jake are just taking turns bearding to give Jake a break. There is nothing in Ted's statement that implies there is no baby tile or that Ted is backing away from it. That is just wishful thinking on the part of the one obsessed with trying to prove that Jake is straight. Its coming up on a year now since the bearding with Reese ended and Jake has yet to go on a single date with a woman. Yeah hes straight alright. The JIS crowd needs to acknowledge the elephant in the room.
OK babytile was supposed to be born in Sept 07. It's almost Sept. 10. Will there be some big coming out surprise with the so-called 3 year old child of J/A?
nobody is saying Jake or Austin is straight, just there is no baby, no surrogate mother, no Jake and Austin couple. Ted is full of shit and his wayward fans who hang onto his every word have egg on their face. They know it. They just won't accept it. So they keep making up "damb" theories.
So the keep hoping and a wishing.
Some just have mush brains for a romantic slash story. That's all.
Who said anything about good publicity, it's about helping out a dead friend. Sean Penn and Josh Brolin seem famehwores to you?
Heath was dead, nothing and no one could help him. Jake is a person with his own mind, what Penn and Brolin have to do with Jake's feelings and actions?
It was a scene that was taken out but it involved Jonathan Crane going to the Joker for help and tries to trick him with the fear gas only for Heath to say "nope" and proceed to beat the tar out of Cillian (Murphy).
I wish we'd seen this in the film or in a deleted scenes on the DVD. Who knows, we may get lucky and it could be worked into the new film in some way. It's so perfectly Heath's Joker. Yay!!!!
Great interview with Christian, thank you for the link! :)
Lots of possibilities for the new film mentioned - maybe being filmed partly in NOLA, the Riddler, Catwoman and Batman. :)
nobody is saying Jake or Austin is straight,
Someone is pretty insistent that Austin and Sophia are a real couple having sex which is something a straight guy would do.
I don't know why it's so hard for people to separate the different issues. Just because I believe that Sophia and Austin's romance is fake doesn't mean I believe he and Jake are a "couple" and it certainly doesn't mean I believe there is a BT. I don't believe either one of those things. Why is that such a hard concept to grasp?
Ann Coulter Calls WorldNet Daily Founder Joseph Farah 'Swine' and 'Publicity Whore' After He Dumps Her Over Gay Event said
LOL. It's great to sit back and watch all the in-fighting between these hateful nutjobs.
You really think anyone cares what someone who talks about "damb" theories and "mush brains" has to say?
ROFLMA!!!!!!!
But keep spinning, it obviously floats your boat to attack other people.
Heath was dead, nothing and no one could help him.
Friends and colleagues did help Heath out by preventing that tape to go on air and make him look even more like a huge, good for nothing junkie. The tape was edited to make it look like Heath was taking drugs on it when in fact he wasn’t.
It was a way of protecting his memory. Everyone was slinging dirt at Heath’s name, if no one stepped forward to say good things about him because "Heath was dead, nothing and no one could help him" then fans and public would think today he was the scum of the earth cause that’s how he was presented by the media after he died.
It's sure not my idea of a relationship, but it doesn't mean they don't still have one. All the arguments thrown out above are not reasons to believe they're not still together. All it is is a description of any actor who is in the closet.
But, destiny, it really isn't a "description of any actor who is in the closet." Once you throw the belief that there is a child into the equation the relationship becomes very different from any other closeted actor or any other closeted couple. There really is no comparison. I don't personally believe there is a BT, but if you do, don't you think it sets their relationship apart from other closeted couples? Even individually, it sets them apart from other closeted actors.
10:00 AM, you are wrong. River Phoenix died of a drug overdose, but fans and public love him like they loved him while he was alive.
Warner Bros. Fights Against "Harry Popper" Condoms
You'd think it would be a major mojo boost for Daniel Radcliffe to get a condom company named after his Harry Potter character, but sadly Warner Bros. disagrees.
The Swiss condom brand "Harry Popper" is reportedly being sued for copyright infringement by the studio.
Gawker.com details the hubbub with a broken-English quote from the Swiss newspaper Bote: "For Warner Bros. is obvious: The sorcerer Harry Potter have a 'very positive image.' Condoms have no business there. Especially not now. According to Warner Bros. in November to plan the launch of the new Potter movie. Also a new video game is in preparation. The lawyer for Warner Bros. bluntly: 'The image of my client is in danger.' "
There is no denying the correlation between the latex protectors and the ever-so-popular wizard movie. If the name didn't do it for you, the illustration of a condom swinging a wand and wearing round-frame glasses will.
But more importantly, is it smart to market condoms with "popper" in the name, anyway?
Bullshit. Heath was not presented as scum when he died. If any, he was portraited as the typical *young Hollywood actor who couldn't stand fame because he was so down to earth and sensitive so that's why he got trapped on drugs*
Hardly the worst thing that can be said about a celebrity.
The media made him look better than he rally was,IMO. A suffering "artist" caught in the middle of the HW jungle.... bah, he was a fine actor and surely a descent guy who made a mistake with his drug of choice, and that's it.
In that party he wasn't doing anything that anybody (famous or not) do at any kind of party. He was chatting and maybe drinking and MAYBE, using some kind of drug. There are no reports that he had to go to an hospital or that he got into a fight or scandal after that. He went to a party, had some fun,met some people and talked to them and then he went to his room with his family. Where is the big deal on that?
IMO, celebrities making a tantrum to avoid the video made the whole situation worst than it was in reality. Maybe that's what Jake thought as well, therefore he didn't want to make a big fuzz about it
Jake avoided anything gay during Reeke. Heath would remind people Jake was in BBM and went down on all fours for him.
Good point. I wonder if Reese insisted that Jake publicly stay away from Heath’s death because of the gay and the drugs. I always felt she didn't let him grieve properly either, she probably saw Heath's death as a nuisance Jake had to get over fast so Reeke could continue their bearding plans in peace (no pun).
I wonder if Reese insisted that Jake publicly stay away from Heath’s death because of the gay and the drugs.
LMAO!
Reese couldn't influence Jake to open the car door for her, who was she to influence anything else?
Dear Ted:
Have you ever confirmed that someone has been a B.V. when they haven't actually been one?
—Chaz
Dear Blindness:
Nope. As awful as you think I am, I ain't that bad, sweets.
Dear Ted:
So, Toothy Tile and Crotch Uh-Lastic. My two favorite gays. Ever bumped uglies or had the same beard?
—Poopsie
Dear Beard and Weird:
What a pretty pic, but no. And Crotch doesn't do the beard thing, remember.
Bitch Back
Crotch Uh-Lastic isn't James Franco? Oops!
Crotch Uh-Lastic isn't James Franco? Oops!
Yeah, that was my first thought, too. To make things more confusing, a few questions before this one, Ted answers another question which makes Franco a good fit the "weird" part of "Dear Beard and Weird" (Toothy being the beard part of course). But Franco does have a girlfriend, so how could she not be a beard if he really is Crotch? idk, Ted's good at playing word games:
"Dear Ted:
I have to admit, I'm going through a James Franco obsession right now. He seems just flat-out crazy. So crazy it's really hot. What's your take on him? Is he for real, or just really good at effing with everyone, including the media? Pretentious moron or ahead of his time?
—In Need of a Cold Shower
Dear Hot and Bothered:
Can't it be just a little bit of both?"
Seed Productions partners Hugh Jackman and John Palermo are splitting up. Jackman has decided to focus on his acting career, while Palermo has made a new deal at 20th Century Fox, where Seed was based. The new deal will run through end of 2011. Allan Mandelbaum will stay with Palermo as development veep.
Palermo was Jackman’s assistant for two years before they formed the company and set it at Fox four years ago. They produced X-Men: The Last Stand, Deception and X-Men Origins: Wolverine. The company is also producing Avon Man, the Kevin Lima-directed film that Jackman dropped out of early this week, and Drive, a drama that Odd Lot Entertainment is financing. Jackman once planned to star in that film, an adaptation of the James Sallis novel. Ryan Gosling is now starring as a Hollywood stunt driver who moonlights as a wheelman and discovers there is a contract on his head. Nicholas Winding Refn is directing. Production begins in September, with Palermo and Marc Platt producing.
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Reese couldn't influence Jake to open the car door for her, who was she to influence anything else?
Reese was the other half of the bearding partnership, of course she could "influence" him on things that could affect Reeke's image. Heath was one of those things.
There were rumors on DL a month or so back about Jackman and his boyfriend splitting, guess they made it permanent and split the company too. According to DL gossip, Jackman was mad at Palermo for fooling around on the side, and Palermo was fed up with the closet and only getting to see Jackman when he could work him in what with his career, "wife", etc.
Plus now that he's a successful producer he probably doesn't need Jackman anymore.
No, she couldn't.
Reese had a bearding contract / arrangement, she did not own Jake.
Reese was the other half of the bearding partnership, of course she could "influence" him on things that could affect Reeke's image. Heath was one of those things.
No, she couldn't.
Reese had a bearding contract / arrangement, she did not own Jake.
Reese was the other half of the bearding partnership, of course she could "influence" him on things that could affect Reeke's image.
Is that how Reese made Jake talk about his wonderful "girlfriend"? Oh, wait ... lol
No, she couldn't.
Oh really? So Jake volunteered to do the hiking photo op? He looks like he doesn't want to be there at all.
11:52 AM - One more time for you: Jake had bearding obligations and photo ops were part of bearding obligations.
Jake had bearding obligations and photo ops were part of bearding obligations.
Consulting with his bearding partner on issues that could affect Reeke's image (like druggie Heath who effed Jake in a movie) was also part of Jake's bearding obligations no doubt (Reese is many things but stupid she's not) therefore the logical conclusion is that Reese could influence him.
1. Heath could not influence Jake's public image. Please stop making up things, Heath's drug use was HEATH'S drug use, not Jake's, not Michelle's, not Natalie's, not Penn's.
2. Reese Witherspoon is not the Master of the Universe, she never owned Jake, she never was in position to make Jake's decisions.
Natalie Portman and other big HW players (Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, SJP, Ellen Page, etc) put pressure on CBS to nix the airing of the video. Don't you find it strange that Jake was not among the stars
The pressure that killed the video was applied through Heath's pr firm I/D Public Relations, which represents a slew of A-list talent, including Jake and Ellen Page.
I/D (Heath's former publicist Mara Buxbaum is CEO), sent an email to PR companies, talent agencies, management firms and studio execs, to rally Hollywood against the airing of the footage. Then I/D essentially told Paramount/ET/The Insider, "If you dump on Heath in this incredibly unsavoury way, our dozens of high profile clients will be boycotting your show." Jake was one of those clients.
The Natalie and SJP and other stars spoke out, or were reported to have made a phone call, while Jake was never cited in a single news report as having done anything, means there was a deliberate decision by I/D to keep Jake's name out of it.
Heath could not influence Jake's public image.
Obviously you don't know if Jake, his PR and yes, Reese looked at it the same way you do. The fact that Jake touched the topic of Heath for the first time after Reeke ended, Heath won an Oscar, his death was declared an accident and no illegal drugs were involved rather indicate that they were afraid the association with Heath at the time could affect Jake's image.
Reese Witherspoon is not the Master of the Universe, she never owned Jake, she never was in position to make Jake's decisions.
I never said she owned Jake but she was in a position to influence him. You're naive if you think she wasn't. She was the one calling the shots in their little alliance.
Obviously you don't know if Jake, his PR and yes, Reese looked at it the same way you do.
You obviously keep ignoring FACT that Natalie Portman, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, SJP, Ellen Page and others have PR and work in Hollywood. Why do you keep insisting that only Jake would get negative publicity??????????
Did any of you SEE the Heath "drug" vid? I did, and Idk why PR and his so-called friends were against showing it to the public. Well actually I think I do know: to prevent less-savory vids about other celebs, i.e. PR's clients and the named celebs, from coming out.
It's amazing how people jump to conclusions when they hear "Heath drug vid" LOL. In the vid, Heath is offered drugs and HE TURNS THEM DOWN. He pointed to his Matilda tattoo and says because of her, he doesn't do stuff like that. Oh and he drinks a beer, big deal. So what was the REAL reason for Natalie Portman, Sean Penn, Josh Brolin, SJP and Ellen Page to forbid showing of the vid? Was it because they jumped to conclusions and assumed that Heath was doing drugs at that party? Or is it because they don't want that "celeb videos can be seen by the public/fans" door opened because it'll eventually hit them in their own faces? I think the latter.
I never said she owned Jake but she was in a position to influence him.
She wasn't. Reese wanted that showmance and press and tabloid bullshit and magazine covers more than Jake.
Isn't Crotch friendly with Toothy? They were pictured together after the Oscars the year BBM lost to Crash.
I heard they even hung out together. Crotch REALLY seems like Toothy's type physically but he may be WAY too cerebral for the slightly dense Toothy.
In the vid, Heath is offered drugs and HE TURNS THEM DOWN. He pointed to his Matilda tattoo and says because of her, he doesn't do stuff like that.
I know, right? I could never figure out how it came to be called the "drug video" - it should've been called the "no drug video." A guy turning down drugs because of his baby daughter - how is that scandalous? But the entertainment type shows kept labelling it like that and everyone else just mindlessly picked up on it. No scandal, no ratings.
12:57 PM - Crotch isn't James Franco or Ted fucked up clues today.
12:57 PM - Crotch isn't James Franco or Ted fucked up clues today.
I'm not 12:57 and idk if Franco is Crotch, but it wouldn't be the first (and won't be the last) time Ted fucks up clues, lol.
Why do you keep insisting that only Jake would get negative publicity??????????
Wth are you talking about, when did I say that? For the last time, you don’t know how Jake and his people looked at things then, maybe they thought association with druggie Heath would hurt his image and said "okay, we’re staying out of it". It has nothing to do with what the public actually thinks, it has to do with what THEY THOUGHT the public could think. Not the same thing.
((((((((In the vid, Heath is offered drugs and HE TURNS THEM DOWN. He pointed to his Matilda tattoo and says because of her, he doesn't do stuff like that.))))))
I thought the way the press handled this was terribly cruel. I'm glad certain actors stepped up and put a stop to it, freedom of the press be damned.
((((Heath))))
The Natalie and SJP and other stars spoke out, or were reported to have made a phone call, while Jake was never cited in a single news report as having done anything, means there was a deliberate decision by I/D to keep Jake's name out of it.
If Jake really joined the others in stopping the video from being aired why would he want his name out of it? Something's off, unless I'm right and it's because of the drugs. ;)
"In the vid, Heath is offered drugs and HE TURNS THEM DOWN. "
Not true. The only thing drugs related in that video is Heath talking about how much he used to smoke pot.
He mentions his daughter when the topic about his tatoos is running and he also says he shouldn't be there because he has a new born baby to take care of.
Again, the over the top defenders of Heath Ledger want to help but they end up turning things worst.
Heath WAS at that party when there was people doing drugs, he KNEW AND ADMITTED he shouldn't be there and HE SPOKE about being an adict at least in the past.
He was at a party and he was just having some fun and doing all the things that normal people do at a party. IF he took some drugs or drank some alcohol during that time, SO FREAKING WHAT??? IT WAS A PARTY!!!! Sure, after he OD, every move or situation the guy made in his life was suspected to be drugs related, but the truth is Heath was doing what any other celebrity do in an industry private party, and it MAYBE involved some coke and booze. Again: Not a big issue,Heathens, don't freak out with the infamous video, is not worth it.
HE SPOKE about being an adict at least in the past.
He never said that.
Why do you keep insisting that only Jake would get negative publicity??????????
Wth are you talking about, when did I say that?
You have said it 100 times, read your posts.
You are the one who keeps talking about "association with druggie Heath would hurt his image" bullshit after you were proven wrong over and over again.
HE SPOKE about being an adict at least in the past.
He never said that.
^^^
Didn't he say something like he used to smoke 10 joints a day during 20 years? As if a 6 years old kid would smoke all that pot.
He was being very inconsistent now that i think about it. His words had no sense ... maybe he was drugged after all!
There are rumors going around Neil Patrick Harris wants to quit the biz and become a full-time dad and leave LA and move to NYC and get out of the industry he's known since he was a kid. And while such gossip should always be taken with a truckload of salt, if the rumors do pan out, please, Neil, give up your sitcom and your movie roles, just don't say goodbye to award show hosting gigs forever.
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Didn't he say something like he used to smoke 10 joints a day during 20 years? As if a 6 years old kid would smoke all that pot.
Oh, ffs, he was exaggerating to make a point that he used to smoke a lot of dope but didn't anymore. No one took that literally. Give me break with the "his words made no sense" stuff, lol.
There are rumors going around Neil Patrick Harris wants to quit the biz and become a full-time dad
Yeah, right, kids aren't expensive.
I think NPH already denied that rumor days ago in a tweet??
True:
Rumor Watch 2010: I'm absolutely not leaving LA or the business. Errant reporting, Popeater. Total bunk. Oh, and good morning everyone!
5:44 PM Aug 17th via web
http://twitter.com/actuallynph
I love NPH's tweets. He's witty, wry and to the point :)
Pfft!
NPH likes attention a little too much. I'm already tired of him.
What is NPH doing to get attention? Selling DVDs to fans like Austin and Sophia?
British designer Andy Bates fashioned leather and a (brass?) bell into the most phallic handbag I've ever seen. And if you thought the front was bad, wait until you see the rosebud on the reverse. What's worse: This, or the penis pants?
That Dick and Balls Goes So Great With Your New Top
NPH likes attention a little too much. I'm already tired of him.
Bitter, Babbler?
Buzzfoto Blind Item #374
This B list comedian/actor didn’t leave patrons laughing when he left a restaurant several nights ago. The poor guy who has been struggling with sobriety showed up to dinner already half plastered and continued to drink throughout the night. He was escorted out before dessert for pulling down his pants and rubbing up against a waiter.
http://www.blinditemsexposed.com/2010/08/buzzfoto-blind-item-374.html
LOL it could be anyone, celebrity or not.
Did he leave a generous tip? lol
Dessert sounds good! I'm hungry!
Countdown until UV starts hating on Black Swan which comes out a week after LAOD, she's already bitching about the buzz the trailer generated. Geez, she's SO predictable.
LOL she'll probably love the former beard's movie and wax on about how they made a great couple and should have been in a romcom together.
Nah, she doesn't like the beard ever since she took those shots at Jake via her PR bs. Now it's all about what a stunning couple Jake and Anne make blahblahblah.
I hope Black Swan will be good, it certainly has a lot going for it. Ballet is fascinating and beautiful, all the hard work and sweat that goes into that ultimate graceful look, and the subject of obsession and drive. Natalie looks amazing in it.
^^and the cutthroat rivalry and competition. I'm looking forward to it.
There were rumors on DL a month or so back about Jackman and his boyfriend splitting, guess they made it permanent and split the company too.
DL was right.
andersoncooper tonight at 10pmET: President Obama is a Christian but nearly 1 in 5 Americans think he's a Muslim. Much more on #AC360
28 minutes ago
i find it annoying that someone had to go back years to complain about Jake not complaining about a video. Is that all you have? Really? It’s been years and you are stuck on that.
By the way, I remember hearing about the video on some local NYC newscast and they mentioned Jake being one of the people against the release of it. I’m not looking for it and I don’t remember which channel, but I saw it.
That being said, some of you will complain about anything and everything. I have no idea what the man is really like, but I do know that bashing him over every stupid thing is sad.
If you are going to complain about him, I beg you, get new material.
Star Magazine is reporting that country star Kenny Chesney is cheating on his girlfriend with ESPN reporter Jenn Brown.
The magazine has what it says are photos of the pair on the beach together in Mexico.
"They were touching and rubbing each other the whole time," an eyewitness told Star. "They definitely looked like lovers, like they didn't have a care in the world."
Huffington Post
...Jake being one of the people against the release of it.
I seem to remember something about this too - I thought of it this morning when someone brought the subject up.
Of course Jake would support our darlin' Heathcliff. :)
Kenny Chesney is cheating on his girlfriend with ESPN reporter Jenn Brown
Double bearding! I had no idea that Kenny Chesney is so ambitious.
Adam Lambert is giving both female and male audience members an extra thrill these days.
Towleroad
Oh my . . .
No, no, no, that's too much.
Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Adam ... behaving like a whore is in these days.
It's never really been out.
Then that means I'm in style!
Check out Ted's last AT blog from yesterday about Rob and Kristen's house in LA/Bel Air. Look how isolated it is. And people believe that Jake and Austin can't hide themselves, BT and a nanny from the public, paps, and nosy neighbors?!
Rob and Kristen's house in LA/Bel Air
LOL If anyone thinks they live together as a couple, they are delusional. At the very least Tom Sturridge was living there and probably some of their other 'Brit Pack' friends.
BTW that house is for rent, so their 'love nest' didn't last long.
Rob and Kristen's house in LA? Yeah, right, LOL
And people believe that Jake and Austin can't hide themselves, BT and a nanny from the public, paps, and nosy neighbors?!
Of course they could hide, they aren't selling a relationship for PR like "Rob and Kristen".
1:45, you're grasping. How "isolated" you think a house is has nothing to do with anything. Exactly when is it that J, A are supposedly cohabiting along with BT(s) and Nanny in this fantasy house. Poor BT - hidden in some "isolated" house somewhere while "Daddy" Jake takes his niece to birthday parties.
1. Yes I read the house was being rented (duh). Does not make any difference.
2. The R&K notation was from an E! article. Whether you decide to believe R&K or not is not the point.
3. The point is the isolation of the home despite being in the LA area.
4. Ever hear of bicoastal couples, people whose partners work away from home for weeks, even months? People in the military or management employees temporarily relocated to foreign countries for a year at a time?
5. There's 21 meals in a week. So what if you see pics/twitters of Jake out at a restaurant 5 times a week. Where is he at the other 16?
destiny, this is for you. (and me!)
Dear Ted:
Have Toothy Tile and Crotch Uh-Lastic ever starred in a movie together? Wouldn't that be dreamy? Do you think they'd have the chops to do a remake of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid? I'm sure we'll never see them in a Making Love, but damn wouldn't that be hot?
—M
Dear Closeted Costars:
When we first introduced good old Crotchy, he hadn't starred alongside T2 and, sadly, that's still the case. Both actors are über-talented and have the chops to remake pretty much anything. And, M, if it makes you feel better, Crotch would be so down for a Making Love remake. Not over Toothy's dead body would he agree to it though.
Dear Ted:
You've said that sometimes gays and their beards are friends, and sometimes they even enjoy the on-the-job "benefits" that come with the gig. Often in life, "benefits" lead to unexpected "blessings." Do you think any of the beards ever liked the position, status, money that comes with the relationship that they arranged for the "unexpected blessing" on purpose to make their position permanent? Do the players ever get played?
—Single
Dear Good One:
Yes, your imagined scenario has come to pass. But it's truly rare.
Dear Ted:
You mentioned at one point that Shafterella was entertaining the ladies, but then more recently, in a Shafty update, you said that the person she is with now was who she was with all along—even when the initial bearding began. So was that tidbit true? Or was that part written (or given out) to lead us astray?
—Gets the Shaft
Dear Shave Off Shafty:
Let me clarify: She wasn't with her current fellow the entire time she was in her PR setup. Shafterella met this guy while she was smiling for photos with her closeted "BF"; then kicked her arranged guy out on his ass without thinking of what her actions would do for his public image. As for the ladies, well, she's never been shy in that arena, just not her main drive.
Bitch Back!
When Neil Patrick Harris tweeted out the news that he and partner David Burtka had twin buns rising in a surrogate oven somewhere, I realized right away they had entered a new zone of gay male couple celebritydom: Official Ambassadors of Gay Normalcy and Proof Gay Relationships Work! Reaching this level requires being incredibly high profile and/or either getting married in a big splashy wedding and/or having children.
While there haven't been any previous gay male ambassadors at this level before in the U.S., the lesbians have long led the way with Melissa Etheridge and Julie Cypher, Anne Heche and Ellen DeGeneres, Melissa Etheridge and Tammy Lynn Michaels, Rosie O'Donnell and Kellie Carpenter, Cherry Jones and Sarah Paulson, and Ellen DeGeneres and Portia de Rossi.
(Ellen and Anne didn't get married or have kids, but were so high profile that I'm counting them. A case could be made that Paulson and Jones don't qualify, but they were still a big deal.)
Can anyone guess the point I'm going to make?
I know we live in the Age of Celebrity when the lives of Brangelina and pretty much every other celebrity couple are fodder for countless websites and TV shows. And I know that having gay celebrities be treated the same way as their heterosexual counterparts is a mostly good and inevitable thing as it normalizes gay couples in the eyes of more traditional Americans.
And it certainly makes us as gay and bi men feel validated to see couples like John Barrowman and Scott Gill and Neil and David so present in the media.
But there is a downside to all of this: Live by the gay celebrity couple, die by the celebrity gay couple.
If seeing Rosie and Kellie as loving parents does help sway some folks that GLBT relationships are good and positive things, then watching them split up must surely (if wildly unfairly) reinforce the idea that gay relationships are somehow inferior and less stable to those of heterosexuals. And that's not even mentioning the wacky blow up that was Anne Heche's "yes, I am, no, I'm not" adventures in lesbianland.
That only one of those six relationships I listed above is still currently active, only reinforces my point.
As I said before, that isn't fair to the GLBT community or these couples as the revolving relationship doors of many straight celebrities put Melissa's marital troubles to shame. But Britney Spears already has full equality, so her shenanigans really don't affect anyone but herself. And there are plenty of celebrity gay relationships that are doing just fine including George Takei and Brad Altman, Elton John and David Furnish, Cheyenne Jackson and Monte Lapka, David Hyde Pierce and Brian Hargrove, Grant Shaffer and Alan Cumming, and Nate Berkus and Brian Atwood.
But let's face it, with the exception of Elton and David (who aren't exactly without controversy themselves), none of these couples are nearly as high profile as are Neil and David, and as far as I know, none are having kids.
And I'm not the only who thinks Neil and David are something new. The blogosphere pretty much went nuts when Neil announced the baby news (Google currently shows 621 articles on the subject) and that includes Popeater's Why Neil Patrick Harris is So Important to the Gay Community.The article quotes Jarrett Barrios, president of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance of Defamation (GLAAD) as saying:
For over two decades, Americans have followed Neil Patrick Harris' journey from child star to popular leading man. Now, many will look on as he and his partner build a family together. As more and more loving and committed gay and lesbian couples start families together, it is important to see stories like Neil's that reflect what most fair-minded Americans already know: gay people and our families are no different than them. For many, Neil is the first gay person they've seen come out, fall in love and become a dad, and his story is helping Americans understand that gay people deserve the same opportunity to take care of our families and loved ones.
No, pressure there, Neil and David. (The article also quotes Out editor-in-chief Aaron Hicklin as saying Neil paved the way for actors like "Jesse Tyler Ferguson and Cheyenne Jackson." Um, Cheyenne was out way before Neil so I think that is actually the other way around, Aaron.)
And it can't be easy for Neil and David having this kind of pressure on them. One has to wonder if all the media attention on the lesbian couples above didn't have some impact on their relationship, and given that Neil and David are the first such high profile gay couple to go this route, you know the scrutiny on them is going to be extra heavy.
And that just leads me to think that for the good of all of us — including David and Neil — it might be healthier if we celebrate their good news and, yes, follow what happens with their twins, but from a distance. And without the intensity of feeling that they are representing all of us instead of just being two guys trying to live their lives and raise a family.
After Elton
And that just leads me to think that for the good of all of us — including David and Neil — it might be healthier if we celebrate their good news and, yes, follow what happens with their twins, but from a distance. And without the intensity of feeling that they are representing all of us instead of just being two guys trying to live their lives and raise a family.
^^
ITA.
Finally! Someone had to say it.
3. The point is the isolation of the home despite being in the LA area.
Isolation of the home is NOT the point. As you KNOW, the point is that BT can't be seen in ANY public place with Jake, Austin or member of their families.
4. Ever hear of bicoastal couples, people whose partners work away from home for weeks, even months? People in the military or management employees temporarily relocated to foreign countries for a year at a time?
Still playing stupid and insulting everyone's intelligence? Jake prefers to spend his free time away from Austin, few thousand miles away from Austin - what is your explanation for that? Well?
Just finished my work on LOL. Great cast. Great crew. Thank you detroit!!! Back to OTH. OMG
about 17 hours ago
4. Ever hear of bicoastal couples, people whose partners work away from home for weeks, even months? People in the military or management employees temporarily relocated to foreign countries for a year at a time?
Still grasping and make comparisons where none exist. Bi-coastal couples spend their FREE TIME together and not on different coasts. Military couples, sadly, don't have the money or resources to fly back and forth at will and spend time together even when they do have some down time - but they would if they were able. Neither one of these scenarios fit J&A.
And it can't be easy for Neil and David having this kind of pressure on them.
Good article, and I agree with this point, too. I think it's good to celebrate that they are breaking down some walls, it shouldn't be ignored - but they're just human beings.
boner said...
destiny, this is for you. (and me!)
What? Trying to keep Boner all to yourself?
Both actors are über-talented and have the chops to remake pretty much anything.
What?! Ted is delusional.
What? Trying to keep Boner all to yourself?
LOL. Really. He's too gorgeous not to share :) "Genetic lottery winner" for sure.
5. There's 21 meals in a week. So what if you see pics/twitters of Jake out at a restaurant 5 times a week. Where is he at the other 16?
You think he's flying back and forth between coasts for his meals?
IHJ - Gala (France)scan - Anyone speaks French?
Thanks Boner! I have to say I especially enjoyed the episode this week.
And lol this line from the post: genetic lottery winner Matt Bomer.
Surprised Queerty didn't weigh in on it this week.
The article on NPH is interesting, but once again I can't help thinking typical kind of downer AE article. And comparing gay couples to Britney??? I think it's hard for any couple to stay together in HW, and then you throw in issues related to being gay more so.
Poor BT - hidden in some "isolated" house somewhere while "Daddy" Jake takes his niece to birthday parties.
^^Jake sporting his niece for the paps "and in public" but not his hidden baby? What the f***. LMAO.
I really wish the BabyTile babblers would just give it a rest already. There are not enough straws to grasp for, but they're still looking.
LOL how someone here just can't stand the thought that it's possible that Jake and Austin may be a couple and for BT to exist. Talk about who's playing stupid - the person who is constantly arguing and belittling people is not only stupid but resentful.
My truth is stranger than your fiction.
LOL how someone here just can't stand the thought that it's possible that Jake and Austin may be a couple and for BT to exist. Talk about who's playing stupid - the person who is constantly arguing and belittling people is not only stupid but resentful.
I think the above comment reeks of someone who lives in a fantasy world and my be slightly delusinal.
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