Thursday 12 November 2009

In or Out?

KNOCK, KNOCK. WHO'S THERE? THE CLOSET. YOU'RE STILL AROUND? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!

There's been a great deal of discussion on the site [After Elton] over the past couple of weeks about gay celebrities, the closet and what constitutes being "out." And even though we've discussed the issue numerous times before, it seems like it is once again time to revisit the topic. And it's a subject that is as tricky as ever and that can have real consequences for the celebrities involved.

Perez kicked the latest round of debate off when he posted an item about White Collar's Matthew Bomer. Without citing a source or saying how he knew, Perez simply claimed Matt was an out gay man. If true, we were certainly interested in writing about Matt and his show, but as we aren't a gossip site, I wasn't going to simply repeat Perez's claims — for lots of reasons.

But I did call up Matthew's publicist and request an interview if, in fact, Perez's information was correct. Through his publicist, Matthew passed on doing the interview and the publicist told me they don't comment on their client's personal lives. And that post set off a heated discussion about outing, the closet and all the other related issues.

The issue of the closet is something we deal with at AfterElton.com a lot and we are constantly evaluating how we cover celebrities that may or may not be gay. First and foremost, we do not out people. It's our firm belief that despite the undeniably greater gay acceptance in society today, coming out still has serious ramifications for many people and is a decision to be made only by the individual in question (excluding closeted politician's, but that's another conversation for another site).

That being said, we also don't believe there is anything wrong with treating everyone the same and the questions asked of a straight celebrity are perfectly fine to ask of a gay celebrity when appropriate. Are you married? Single? What was your childhood like? How does being straight influence the way you play a gay character? Does your husband get jealous when you kiss another man? And so forth.

Here are some general observations and thoughts about where we stand today.

1) For our readers: Just because "everyone" in West Hollywood or New York "knows" Celebrity X is gay because you've seen him around town with another guy does not make it true or mean that the person is out publicly. First of all, New York and Los Angeles are not the entire world and secondly, being seen out in public with another man is not being out in any practical way.

2) For gay celebrities: Just because your family and friends know you are gay does not make you publicly out.

3) For representatives of gay celebrities: If your client is gay and your response is "no comment" because "we don't ever comment on our client's personal lives" all I have to say is "Poppycock." I may understand why you are hiding the info, but I'm not an idiot and neither are our readers. If your client discusses raising funds for Alzheimer's because their dad had it or working to fight testicular cancer because they have it or anything else not specifically about a particular role, then they do discuss their private lives.

4) There are legal issues involved. Like it or not, claiming a person is gay still has legal ramifications and you can be sued for defamation in almost half of the states in the U.S. Yes, the celebrity has to prove you are wrong, but the fact of the matter is not every celebrity rumored to be gay is gay, and I'm not about to risk my job on Perez Hilton's say so.

BTW, publicists? Please don't tell me information "off the record" and then hint you don't care what I say as long as it's without any attribution at all. Again, that could end with your client suing me and I don't traffic in gossip. Thanks, but no thanks.

5) Dear fellow journalists, please don't treat gay celebrities differently than straight ones. If you regularly ask straight actors about their spouses, children and how they personally relate to playing an ad executive from the 1950s, a starship captain or a serial killer, but avoid similar questions with those you suspect to be gay, you aren't doing your job. And given how quick you usually are to ask officially out actors about the same things you do straight ones, you know I'm right.

I can honestly say that after the success of Neil Patrick Harris has had after coming out publicly (apparently everyone in New York knew he was gay all along) I really thought things would be different and more actors would follow the Luke Macfarlane model and simply acknowledge the fact of their sexuality and move on. But I can tell you from personal experience that we still aren't there no matter how much I'd like us to be.

Which isn't to say I don't understand and appreciate the issues gay celebrities face. But the only reason things ever get better is because some people have the courage to care enough to make things better for all of us.

Source: Best. Gay. Week. Ever. (November 06, 2009), After Elton

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Anonymous said...

^^...Jake and Kiki were lobbying hard for Jake to replace....

Anonymous said...

That was a fair game and no reason for Tobey to be pissed with Kirsten or Jake - they are all actors looking for good, high profile movies.

Anonymous said...

Look, I said it was my opinion. Not claiming it is the case.

Anonymous said...

^^But since Kiki dated Tobey briefly before she started dating Jake, Tobey may have been a tad pissed. Again JMO.

Anonymous said...

But from Jake's Freudian slip someone might conclude that Jake is pissed with Tobey :)

LAOD said...

DreHorn: @tallcathy psst...jake gyllenhal and anne hathaway filming at magee right now. I can confirm sighting
41 minutes ago

Anonymous said...

But from Jake's Freudian slip someone might conclude that Jake is pissed with Tobey :)

Maybe both aren't too fond of each other? This monologe about his co stars who were most successful in the films with him implies that all their previous performances weren't all that and that includes Tobey. A disguised kick in the nuts, or what? ;)

Anonymous said...

Ha, I didn't thought of that, lol!

Anonymous said...

^^;)

Anonymous said...

Tobey and Jake - fighting over some movie set boy? ;)

Anonymous said...

Our Jakey Poo seems to be a little on the arrogant side of life. And some still wonder "how can he associate himself with Reese Witherspoon?".

1:30 said...

Reeke might be more similar than we think. Like Ted said, they use each other. Don't make Jake into a victim, he's not.

Anonymous said...

Reeke might be more similar than we think.

Jake and Reese have very little in common.

Anonymous said...

Wow, people will twist and turn anything Jake says to make him look like an ass, eh? I didn't get any sense of arrogance or entitlement or whatever from that interview. It sounded like Jake was happy on behalf of his costars that they were able to make critics take notice.

He's so evil that Jake Gyllenhaal.

Anonymous said...

I remember when Jake said when BBM came out that he didn't think Heath could do it (playing Ennis) and that he was surprised when he saw the end result. I was quite irritated by it at the time. I really wonder why Heath liked him so much? But I feel he wasn't too good in judging people (friends, partners).

Anonymous said...

^^^ I'm sure Jake said that as the compliment, not trashing Heath's previous roles.

Anonymous said...

Wow, people will twist and turn anything Jake says to make him look like an ass, eh? I didn't get any sense of arrogance or entitlement or whatever from that interview. It sounded like Jake was happy on behalf of his costars that they were able to make critics take notice.

He's so evil that Jake Gyllenhaal.


Give me a break! Some people will interprete what he said differently then you do and they have a right to voice their opinion.

Anonymous said...

I'm sure Jake said that as the compliment, not trashing Heath's previous roles.

Only Jake knows what he meant.

Anonymous said...

OK, what Jake said about Heath sounds like the praise of his BBMt acting.

Anonymous said...

OK, what Jake said about Heath sounds like the praise of his BBMt acting.

But previously Jake said he didn't think Heath could do it. That's not a compliment. Jake sounds like the Babble posters who say Heath only got all the praise because critics were surprised.
I'll stop beating the dead horse before the anti Heath crowd arrives and starts a fight.

Anonymous said...

YOU sound like the babblers who always try to turn Jake and Heath agaist each other.

Anonymous said...

^^I can assure you, I'm not a babbler.

Anonymous said...

QUESTION: JIM, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW YOU WENT ABOUT CREATING THIS AND HOW CLOSE YOU STAYED TO THE ORIGINAL AND ALSO CASTING THE YOUNG ACTRESS WHO PLAYED ISABELLE?

SHERIDAN: Yeah. Bailee Madison. She’s a sweet kid and I liked Taylor [Geare who plays the other daughter], too. Natalie stole her and put her in her next movie. She’s the lead in her next movie[Portman’s short film in “New York I Love You” which has already been released]. So the kids were great. It’s hard to know what you do to be original because David Benioff wrote the script and then we all got together and kept changing it and reworking it. You have to get into imagining that you’re doing something original otherwise you’d go nuts, I think. There used to be things in Ireland called ‘Show Bands’ and they used to imitate American songs. They’d always record the hits again. So I didn’t want to try and do the show band version, do you know what I mean? I think in watching the movie over and over a kind of thing reveals itself. My daughter is always saying that I don’t understand the movie she’s writing because it’s a woman’s movie and my other daughter goes to college here. So at the end I got afraid and I said, ‘Why don’t you do an analysis of both movies,’ because at times we do a few re-shoots, not many, and she did an analysis of what the difference was and it was something like Susanne’s [Bier] movie is more romantic and is more about, I suppose, the love relationship and ours was more about a family. I think the thing that I do is put families together. I think what she’s [Bier’s] doing is telling stories about inappropriate love. They’re just different approaches. It doesn’t feel like a remake to me anymore.

QUESTION: IT FEELS LIKE AN ORIGINAL?

SHERIDAN: Well, it’s not so much that. I was really in this position like a doctor where you don’t want to do any more damage than you can. I had a joke about this movie. I said it made about $200,000 or $300,000 at the American box office and if the critics would’ve ever paid in it would’ve made a $500 million. Like every critic saw it.

awwwww said...

GYLLENHAAL: I can say that in researching the character that I played Jim and I went to a lot of different jails all over L.A. County and to juvenile halls and what happened totally, separately from the movie, I met these kids in this writing program at this juvenile hall and they were extraordinary kids. I mean if you want to get into politics we can talk about the kids that I met in this juvi. One of them that we met was this incredible storyteller that Jim ended up putting in the movie as one of the guys in the helicopter with Tobey. I have never been to the prison system, particularly in California or any place really, to see young men. This is a whole other type of young men being put in jail and to see how extraordinary many of them were and how many of them would never get out, that was an amazing thing. It was terrifying. Fourteen year olds to 18 year olds. I still go back to visit them. I still go back to that writing program because they’re pretty extraordinary kids and many of them have moved on, but they’re still coming in. We should think about that, too.

Anonymous said...

1:41, Didn't Jake throw a tantrum when Heath started getting most of the praise and attention? (I remember Lainey writing about it and calling Jake a spoiled, egotistical brat). Also when he arrived at the Toronto Film Festival for the BBM screening, he was upset that someone else was in his "suite" and demanded that this person be removed so his highness can move in there. The hotel refused and Jake threw yet another tantrum. People saw this.

Anonymous said...

Never heard anything about those "tantrums".

Anonymous said...

I can say that in researching the character that I played Jim and I went to a lot of different jails all over L.A.

The only part of "Brothers" that really interests me - Jake in jail :)

Anonymous said...

1:41, Didn't Jake throw a tantrum when Heath started getting most of the praise and attention? (I remember Lainey writing about it and calling Jake a spoiled, egotistical brat).

Yes that's true. But Lainey lurves Jake again since "Gyllenspoon" started. LOL.

Anonymous said...

Yes that's true.

We should believe something happened just because Lainey said so?!

Anonymous said...

We should believe something happened just because Lainey said so?!

The same could be asked about what Ted saw.

Anonymous said...

"But previously Jake said he didn't think Heath could do it. That's not a compliment."


Jake praises heath for his acting, he even said BBM was his movie.

Anonymous said...

The same could be asked about what Ted saw.

Hi babbler!

Anonymous said...

Ted and Lainey do the same job : make up bullshit. I just notice a lot here believe them when it's convenient.

Anonymous said...

^^Yes, after most of the critics said it. LOL. W/e I'm moving on.

Anonymous said...

Jake praises heath for his acting, he even said BBM was his movie.

Yes, after most of the critics said it. LOL. W/e I'm moving on.

Anonymous said...

Hi babbler!

Yawn!

Anonymous said...

The same could be asked about what Ted saw.

Unlike Lainey , Ted is a gay man who lives in LA and attends a lot of events and parties.

Anonymous said...

Since Jake is filming in Pittsburgh, it's safe to assume he won't attend the Brothers premiere.

Anonymous said...

2:34 PM, Jake also said it during the filming of BBM. There's a video interview, maybe someone else knows what I'm talking about and has a link to it.

Anonymous said...

"Ted is a gay man who lives in LA and attends a lot of events and parties."

and so?

Irritated said...

Some of you who see Jake as this wonderful, poor misunderstood and used victim have to realize Jake has a huge ego thanks I believe to his dear old mother. Yes Reese is using Jake and Jake is using Reese. I have no doubt Jake threw tantrums. While I loathe Lainey because she can be bought and has been bought by Reeke, that is probably the only true piece of information she has said about Jake. I mean come on she calls him a spoiled brat back then and now she thinks that he can change Reese's bitch fact? Jake is not what he seems, in that press conference Jake sounded like someone who was trying to sound smart but couldn't. He came off as an ass yet again. I think he was trying to irritate Toby with those backhanded comments.

Anonymous said...

Jake was the one who was thrown out of his hotel room in Toronto.

Anonymous said...

While I loathe Lainey because she can be bought and has been bought by Reeke, that is probably the only true piece of information she has said about Jake.

That "piece of information" is bullshit.

Jake throws a tantrum every time another actor gets more praise, gets some award or big box office? Give me a break.

Anonymous said...

"Ted is a gay man who lives in LA and attends a lot of events and parties."
and so?


And so his gay actors sources are 10 times better than Lainey's.

Anonymous said...

That "piece of information" is bullshit.

You say bullshit, because you want to believe it's bullshit.

Jake throws a tantrum every time another actor gets more praise, gets some award or big box office? Give me a break.

Not every actor, but maybe some actors who star with him in the same movie and get more praise for their performances?

Anonymous said...

The fangirls had a fit when Lainey made those comments back in Jan. 2006. I do believe her in this case because it would go alnong with his other bratty behavior like cancelling his NY appearences to promote BBM in DEc. '05 because the critics were praising Heath not him. He was also pissed that Jarhead didn't do well.

It was only when his peoplke told him to stop acting like a brat because it may cost him a nom, then he showed up on Leno, Oprah and did the awards shows with Heath.

And he was tossed out of his hotel in Toronto in 9/05, I rememer reading about it then.

Jake is a spoiled brat and I didn't care for his tone in that presse conference.

Good thing he had to be back on set today.

Anonymous said...

"Jake is not what he seems, in that press conference Jake sounded like someone who was trying to sound smart but couldn't. He came off as an ass yet again. I think he was trying to irritate Toby with those backhanded comments."

Yesterday he hated Heath and now he wants to irritate Tobey and tomorrow.....

GIVE ME A BREAK

Anonymous said...

Yesterday he hated Heath and now he wants to irritate Tobey and tomorrow.....

GIVE ME A BREAK


Oh you give me a break! No one ever said he hated Heath. He was just sour that he wasn't praised as much. He eventually got over it when he got his Bafta and the Oscar nom.

Anonymous said...

Jake hates Heath..it all makes sense now..

Anonymous said...

Jake is saying only nice things about Tobey:

...and then we had a Christmas break inbetween and then he had another week and when he came back he was another person and he was another person than what he was in the first couple of weeks that we started shooting. That was an extraordinary transformation, not only to watch as an actor but as a person and as an audience member. And now watching the movie I feel that way, too.

Anonymous said...

^^This "being sour" happened when Heath got the Globe nom and Jake not. Finally when the Bafta and Oscar nod. came, he got over it.

Anonymous said...

"Jake is a spoiled brat and I didn't care for his tone in that presse conference."

Jake is the worst human in this planet! We know that!

Anonymous said...

Jake is the worst human in this planet! We know that!

LOL. Don't be such a drama queen. ;)

Anonymous said...

There was talk of rivalry on the Brothers set between Tobey and Jake. Remember they both wanted their own hair person but had to share. They vied for the affection of the crew by buying them with gifts trying to one up each other. They are competitors after all, similar looks, almost the same age, similar styles, up for the same parts. To be expected really.

Anonymous said...

"Reported" by Star magazine.

Anonymous said...

First Lainey, now star magazine LOL

Anonymous said...

First Lainey, now star magazine LOL

You can add Ted C. ;)

Some things they say have truth in them some don't.

Anonymous said...

GYLLENHAAL: I can say that in researching the character that I played Jim and I went to a lot of different jails all over L.A. ... I have never been to the prison system, particularly in California or any place really, to see young men.

I'm bad, this made me laugh.

Anonymous said...

Didn't Heath die during the filming of Brothers and the shoot got postponed as a result for several days so Jake could go on bereavement leave? I wonder how much of Heath's death informed what we see with Jake's performance onscreen.

Anonymous said...

Yes, but we don't know which Brothers scenes were filmed after Heath's death.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Jake will give that muany interviews for Brothers anymore and he certainly won't mention neither Reese nor Heath.

Anonymous said...

Jake can still attend the premiere tonight even though he's filming today. PIT to NYC is about 2 to 2 1/2 hour flight. They can get him a private plane to fly him in. They must have done that yesterday because he was filming on Fri. and was back on set today.

Anonymous said...

Jake wasn't filming yesterday.

Brothers said...

2 hours to the premiere!!!!!! http://pic.gd/06b13f
about 1 hour ago

http://twitter.com/RossiPR

Anonymous said...

Trying to figure out what the hell Jake is talking about is not easy. I agrree he tries to talk like he is smart but I do not believe he is ready to perform brain surgery. He needs to keep doing his crossword puzzles until the lights go on.

Just Saying said...

"Jake is the worst human in this planet! We know that!"

Not exactly but he dates the worst human on this planet.

Anonymous said...

4:37 We know he wasn't filming yesterday, he was at the news conference.

He is filming today, don't know if he will make it to the screening tonight but there is a nother screening tomorrow in Ny and he is not listed.

Jake said...

What?! Austin is a good guy!

Jake said...

4:55 PM

What?! Austin is a good guy!

Just saying said...

" Jake said...
What?! Austin is a good guy!"

See how dumb you are, you're not supposed to admit that.

Anonymous said...

4:37 We know he wasn't filming yesterday, he was at the news conference.

And he didn't need a private plane to get there on time.

Jake said...

I'm smart and hilariously funny!

Anonymous said...

From Brothers, pressconference;


"SHERIDAN: looking. . It takes a bit of getting used to and it took me a few weeks to get used to Jake’s approach which is very unique in my experience. He just thinks he’s in real life — and he’s up on the screen. Jake is just the same now as on the thing, up with the kid, up with his sister’s kid. He keeps joking even when I get serious and all, don’t you?

I find it rather peculiar/odd that at first Sheridan says "the kid" and then corrects himself to "his sister's kid". Does he know anything we don't, was it a slip of the tounge or am I just reading way too much into it?

Just saying said...

"Remember they both wanted their own hair person but had to share."

I believe not all was freindly between the two men and that Natalie had to be the peacemaker. Usually if everyone gets along, actors will comment about how great it was on set. But I have to comment on the above if its true and please no one get offended because that is so gay diva. Toby you had no hair most of the movie.

Jake said...

Always joking - best big mouth damage control!

Brothers said...

My girls, leaving to the premiere!
http://pic.gd/28ba6a
11 minutes ago

Bio Publicist/Producer
http://twitter.com/RossiPR

Jake said...

Toby you had no hair most of the movie.

EXACTLY! He had no use for a private hair stylist!

Anonymous said...

It was about make up, not hairstylists as far as I remember.

Anonymous said...

^^The visagists. Both wanted their own and not to share one.

Anonymous said...

"SHERIDAN: looking. . It takes a bit of getting used to and it took me a few weeks to get used to Jake’s approach which is very unique in my experience. He just thinks he’s in real life — and he’s up on the screen. Jake is just the same now as on the thing, up with the kid, up with his sister’s kid. He keeps joking even when I get serious and all, don’t you?

Ok, I understood everything up until "and he's up on the screen".
Can someone "translate"?

Jake and Tobey said...

“[Tobey and Jake] each want their own retoucher, but the producers don’t think it’s necessary and don’t see why they can’t share,” a source tells Star. “Tobey is holding out for his own person, while Jake said he needs his artist so badly he’ll let her stay with him during the shoot.”

[From Star Magazine, print edition, December 10, 2007]

“[Tobey and Jake] are competing over who gets along better with castmates and crew!” an insider tells Star. The actors are also showering them with gifts! While Tobey gave crewmembers new 8GB iPod Nanos, Jake gave out gift certificates to tony Koi restaurant! Adds the source, “It’s getting uncomfortable.”

[From Star Magazine, print edition, January 14, 2008]

Celebitchy

Just saying said...

Well the comment said hair, but even bickering over having your own makeup person. It seems to me that Toby's character would be more dramatic without makeup due to the character he's playing. And Jake has a beard (not Reese) during the movie.

Anonymous said...

For the record, I will take the ipod. It stays with you longer than the food.

Anonymous said...

Jim sounds a like Jake there, not making a lot of sense IMO. I think he means that up pn the screen: the kid: one of the girls that plays his daughter, in real life: his niece . The rest sounds like he's drunk.

Anonymous said...

Jim and Jake smoked the same weed ;)

Anonymous said...

5:38 PM, I see.

Anonymous said...

"Jim and Jake smoked the same weed ;)"

Would explain their interview skills. LOL.

Brothers said...

AlisonKessler: Red carpet premiere of Brothers down the street from my apartment - how do I weasel my way into this one?
1 minute ago

Anonymous said...

Brothers Press Conference - ONTD comments

Anonymous said...

ONTD comment: "That first pick made me lol way more that it should of because it hoenstly to me looked like Jake and Toby are eye fucking each other with Natalie being caught smack bang in the middle !"

Brothers said...

ScottFeinberg: Just walked into the BROTHERS premiere behind Jessica Lange and Sam Shepard. Cool.

Anonymous said...

Brothers should do well because they all have different fanbases or should have. Jake also has Reese's fanbase who will go see the movie because they want to say I quote "Jake is much more intersting now that he's with Reese and a much better actor". And yes Reese fans do think that way.

Anonymous said...

Reese has fans?

Anonymous said...

Bad IHJ fan - ONTD comment by jsrocks: "I love Jake, but he talks tl;dr."

simple! said...

QUESTION: WAS IT HARD TO GET THIS FILM MADE, GIVEN THAT IT’S A WAR MOVIE AND DID IT TAKE A LONG TIME?

GYLLENHAAL: Can I say something real quick? It’s funny that people are saying that this is a war movie and I’ve been involved in a movie where people have said that to me in press conferences over and over again. I think as a result of obviously trying to sell the movie there’s an inclination – to just talk about your question – to not talk about that. I think you’re going to back into a corner but I don’t think that anyone is trying to pretend that we’re in some corner. We’re not in a corner. I think the movie is a journey and how they’re selling the movie is fascinating because the most extraordinary part of the movie is not given away at all in any of these ads or how they’re selling it. It’s the journey that Tobey’s character makes to get back home. I think that is kind of being…personally, that’s your job to say that that’s what the movie is about because that’s what it’s about. It is intertwined with a lot of other complications but mostly it’s about what this man does to get back to the people that he loves and to his life.

Anonymous said...

"I love Jake, but he talks tl;dr."

What does this mean?

Anonymous said...

In BBM Jake often mentioned that he thought Michelle did the best job.

tl;dr said...

Literally, "Too long; didn't read"

Said whenever a nerd makes a post that is too long to bother reading.

Anonymous said...

Jake obviously has a future in politics. He has the gift for answering a question that was not asked. Or he could be on the same mental breakdown road as his Dad.

Anonymous said...

Natalie at the premiere:

Twitpic

Anonymous said...

Jake obviously has a future in politics. He has the gift for answering a question that was not asked. Or he could be on the same mental breakdown road as his Dad.

Jake isn't very eloquent, I think it's that simple. He has always been like that. Though he's not dumb, just not very articulate.

Anonymous said...

Natalie at the premiere

Very nice :)

Anonymous said...

Tobey's on Ellen next week and Natalie is doing the View. I'm surprised Jake is not doing Ellen. Of course his character is not technically the star and he has the movie shoot. But I just get the feeling if Jakey isn't the star he doesn't play nicely during promo time. That's why I don't understand Reeke, he's clearly second billing there. Maybe its real love.

Anonymous said...

"Jake isn't very eloquent, I think it's that simple. He has always been like that. Though he's not dumb, just not very articulate."

Well sometimes keeping it short and simple is the only eloquence needed. He should have stayed in school or watched more Sesame Street.

Anonymous said...

That's why I don't understand Reeke, he's clearly second billing there. Maybe its real love.

LMAO!

Anonymous said...

8:24 PM

Avon lady was lucky to find such high profile PR boyfriend.

Anonymous said...

Jake isn't very eloquent, I think it's that simple. He has always been like that.

I don't agree, I remember tons of good interviews.

Anonymous said...

I don't agree, I remember tons of good interviews.

There have been better interviews sure, but many with his "gyllenbabble" as well.

Anonymous said...

Gyllenbabble (NOT blog!) is fun!

Anonymous said...

^^Jake is s babbler sometimes (or often?). ;)

Anonymous said...

Another Brothers rave:

review

Anonymous said...

^^^^ ... it ends right where the story gets especially interesting. Though it shouldn’t be a three-hour epic, there’s a good chance you’ll feel like the spontaneous ending didn’t do the genius beginning justice.

Huh?!

Anonymous said...

Another Brothers rave

Movie critic babble:)

In an era when overwrought tales of shimmering vampires dominate the big screen, “Brothers” — a remake of the 2004 Danish film, “Brødre” — is a refreshing deviation from the typical, which is a major part of its appeal.

Anonymous said...

It's nice to read good reviews about Jake's acting after 2-3 years of waiting :)

Anonymous said...

First Departed, now Brothers. I think it's actually a good idea to remake good foreign films. Jake joked about that every actor should star in remakes. I think he's right. ;)

Anonymous said...

is a refreshing deviation from the typical, which is a major part of its appeal.

This sentence makes sense to me.

Anonymous said...

Getty Images: The Cinema Society Screening Of "Brothers" - Arrivals

Anonymous said...

It's nice that after almost 3 years without a movie being released, Jake's first one is getting good reviews. However, he is probably patting himself on the back that he made the right decision to beard. He picked Zodiac and Rendition pre-bearding. He picked Brothers while bearding. Maybe he's thinking that the bearding is helping his career. If that's the case, he'll be with the Chin forever.

Anonymous said...

^^They all look good. Tobey seems to be good with the kids, probably because he has a couple of his own. Natalie's face looks nice, but not the body and dress. Shame Jake didn't attend.

Anonymous said...

he'll be with the Chin forever.

If that's the case, I'm sure we all still won't have sleepless nights over it. ;)

Anonymous said...

This sentence makes sense to me.

"A major part of its appeal" can be good acting, great script or gripping story, not the fact that "Brothers" isn't typical popcorn movie.

Anonymous said...

However, he is probably patting himself on the back that he made the right decision to beard.

WHAT BEARDING HAS TO DO WITH JAKE'S ACTING AND QUALITY OF HIS MOVIES???

Jake said...

I can't miss any filming time. I have a schedule to keep. Reese said I have to be back in LA by Wednesday. If I'm not, I have to do a day of double photo ops and whisper in her ear while walking and holding her hand! My God, the woman is a slave driver.

Anonymous said...

"WHAT BEARDING HAS TO DO WITH JAKE'S ACTING AND QUALITY OF HIS MOVIES???"

Bearding has nothing to do with Jake's acting or the quality of his acting. The point of bearding was to have Jake appear to be Mr. Straight and get offered a stready stream better, high profile, higher paying roles with high profile directors.

9:23 PM said...

sorry for shouting

Anonymous said...

Brothers is a cheap movie: "Saturday at New York’s Four Seasons Hotel the actors, Sheridan and producer Ryan Kavanaugh held a press conference. A beaming Kavanaugh could not conceal his utter delight at how this $25 million movie has become the genuine sleeper of the season."

Anonymous said...

I predict best picture, best director and best actor (Tobey) noms.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Natalie for best actress? Just when people were doubting her as an actress she reemerges with a presumably great, maybe Oscar-worthy, performance. There you go, you just need to trash actors and they come out stronger out of it. lol

Anonymous said...

2 good, not great reviews + 2,5 great reviews = we'll see.

Anonymous said...

Sheridan is shorter than Tobey. Tobey seems in good spirits.

Anonymous said...

Ah Jakey you should have asked for Monday off to attend the premire tonight. I know you have to get back to your other job in LA but Reese would have not past up a chance to shine for you. I know you need your beauty sleep but actors should support their movies.

Jake said...

I'm not missing the most important movie premiere. The one in LA is on Dec.1 and Reese said that depending on how the reviews are after this weekend. If there is enough Oscar buzz, she may walk the red carpet with me. She said the best way to look like a tight couple is to share the attention the Oscar race gives you.

Anonymous said...

"Jake said...
I'm not missing the most important movie premiere. The one in LA is on Dec.1"

Sadly I think this is how that relationship really functions beard or no beard.

Anonymous said...

"WHAT BEARDING HAS TO DO WITH JAKE'S ACTING AND QUALITY OF HIS MOVIES???""

There are certain Oscar-worthy directors who *will not* work with Jake while he beards with sociopathic Witherspoon.

Period. Trust.

Whether he likes it or not, Brothers is the last dramatic Oscar-worthy film that Jake will be attached to for a long time.

Bearding giveth and bearding taketh away.

Anonymous said...

You are the one that is a sociopath, a word you use all the time. HW doesn't give a fuck about bearding, oscar worthy or not. If true than people like George, Leo, Travolta , Will Smith, Cruise, McBongo wouldn't be working either.

They don't give a shit about Jake but you do and what appears to be good reviews for Brothers nad maybe awards consideration, all this from bearding with more to come!!!

you need to stop with the fan fic. Period.Trust.

Anonymous said...

I am a sociopath, a HW insider and i eat my own excrement.

Scatting taketh and scatting taketh away

Anonymous said...

Let me repeat for the hearing disabled among us.

There are certain Oscar-worthy directors who *will not* work with Jake while he beards with sociopathic, nut-job Witherspoon. Period.

This is about Witherspoon specifically, not about bearding generally.

It's going to be second-rate rom-coms, action flicks and weird financing deals for the foreseeable future for Jakey.

And there is *nothing* that CAA or Disney can do about it. Nothing. They've tried and it hasn't worked. Jake's people are fighting tooth and nail for every deal. Nothing is handed to him any more.

The disparaging, disgruntled whisper campaign that followed him all over Martha's Vineyard like a shadow is still with him now.

If he wants to beard with nutty, sociopathic Reese, then let him live with the professional consequences.

Anyone who thinks that there are no downsides to bearding with creepy, nutty Witherspoon is crazy. There are no free lunches in HW. Bearding giveth and bearding taketh away.

Live with it, Babblers.

Anonymous said...

Oh chut up.

Anonymous said...

What whispering campaign are you referring to pray tell?

Anonymous said...

Sounds credible 11:51. Reese is not well liked. She has passed her prime but does not realize it yet. She could wield power at one time, but now she is just a liability.

Anonymous said...

Clint Eastwood wouldn't even meet with her. Reese desperately wanted that Angelina Jolie role.

It won't matter if Brothers gets a few critics awards--it's not going to win a Best Picture Oscar (although it could get nominated being that there are ten slots this year) and Jake is absolutely not going to get an Oscar nod and it's doubtful Natalie will either (very tough year for women). Sheridan could get one but again it's a tough, competitive year--Tobey could get one for Best Supporting Oscar (Best Actor will be impossible because again VERY competitive and crowded) and U2 for Best Song. That's it.

Anonymous said...

There are no free lunches in HW. Bearding giveth and bearding taketh away. "

Well, I don't know about that. Everybody beards in some way in Hollyweird.

Anonymous said...

Please. In Hollywood, it doesn't matter if you're Charles Manson or his sister, as long as your movies make money that's all that matters.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Jake doesn't get good projects because he beards, I think it's because he can't act. Not sure what happened to him since BBM but his acting has been pretty mediocre since then. Or maybe he's only good at acting troubled teenagers (when he was one) and acting a gay man (which he is) Awww poor Jakey..

Jake said...

There are certain Oscar-worthy directors who *will not* work with Jake while he beards with sociopathic Witherspoon.

No one can have it all! At least Jerry LOVES me! Jerry?

Anonymous said...

Getty Images: The Cinema Society Screening Of "Brothers" - Arrivals

Everyone is looking good, Nat is very pretty :)

Variety review said...

...
The names of Tobey Maguire, Natalie Portman and Jake Gyllenhaal should lure a respectable arthouse/mainstream contingent to this solidly accessible, admirably serious yet not entirely realized picture.
...
Still, that cast largely impresses. Portman has rarely been more movingly subdued as a wife and mother who refuses to let grief overpower her sense of responsibility, while Gyllenhaal is effortlessly believable as a drifter who finds, to his delight and ours, that fatherhood suits him well. Sheridan's empathetic touch with tyke actresses, so evident in 2003's "In America," pays off beautifully in his work with young Madison, who's heartbreaking as the older and wiser of the two Cahill girls.

With his crew cut and stiff posture (in contrast to Gyllenhaal's looser stance), Maguire is downright scary as a guy who seems to be headed the way of Pvt. Pyle in "Full Metal Jacket." But he still looks a tad boyish for the part (Ulrich Thomsen was in his 40s when he played the role for Bier), and his decision to go explosively over-the-top at moments only exposes Sam as a psychological construct -- more walking antiwar statement than full-blooded human being.
...
http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117941650.html?categoryid=31&cs=1

Hollywood Reporter said...

Bottom Line: A remake of a Danish film has much to admire but never comes together with the impact of the original.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/brothers-film-review-1004044986.story

Anonymous said...

It was extremely interesting for me to read the blog. Thanks for it. I like such themes and everything connected to this matter. I would like to read more soon.

Anonymous said...

11:51: You have been peddling this for Awhile, take it to your LJ.

The only thing HW cares about is $$$ and the last 2 movies Reese was attached to made $$$$. HW supports bearding and they support nuts as long as they make $$$.

Jake is just an ok actor, and he and his handlers have finally wised up.

You sound like a b brokie that was obsessed with Chris and is pissed that he moved on, whispering campaign in MV my ass, you need to brush up on your fanfic skills.

Bottom line: You are pissed that Brothers is geting good reviews and Pop is going to be a hit, deal with that brokie.

Anonymous said...

^^ Calm down, babbler! lol

Anonymous said...

Chris ... moved on

Moved on where? He's Jake's friend as he was all those years.

Anonymous said...

11:08 Used to post about how HW has shunned Jake and he was alone and celibate, seperated from his family and Reese was his only HW pal and that Chris was the only sane/solid person in his life and kept him grounded.

Posted as an "insider" with info from HW and MV. Changed the fanfic when Chris stopped updating his blog and seem to have vanish from MV and only resurface with another Jake.

Time to revise the fanfic!!

HW doesn't give a fuck who bubble boy beards with.

Anonymous said...

The Oscar talk at this point is just a way to sell the film. It's difficult to get an audience for war films so they are trying to get Oscar hype.

And like it or not Jake Brothers IS a war film. Home front - front line, makes no difference.

Reading the press conference made my head ache. Jake makes no sense. What the hell is he talking about? It's mindless rambling. And once again a director mentions how difficult he is to work with. He sounds like an annoying character.

I wonder who the other potential beard they contacted was...

Anonymous said...

6:37: Chris moved on to the "sweet life" with the other Jake, keep up!!! Jake and Chris are long time friends, that's it but some thought otherwise.

When they read that Chris is in business with his other Jake friend on MV, it rattled their cage.

Anonymous said...

I could see alot of what 11:51pm is saying as truth. Reese is known as a bitch but she is also known as being totatlly professional and serious on set. It's pretty reasonable to imagine directors who don't want to work with her or deal with her through her set visits to Jake. But if Jake and his team (who advised him to beard) know that, why does he continue to still beard? Jake has proved his point-to the PR consuming public he is Jake-straight man, Reese's boyfriend. The majority of gossip blogs have stopped the Jake is gay hinting and the rag mags always refer to him as Reese's boyfriend. Reeke breaking up would give each one of them at least 1 year worth of sympathy PR stories. If Jake is so ambitious and greedy about his career, why stay with someone who is slowly poisoning it?

Anonymous said...

Reese probably knows how to play by the rules and play hard. She may burn some bridges doing it but is able to bring in the cash so doesn't need to change her style.

Anonymous said...

Legally Blonde director said that he doesn't want to work with Witherspoon again. Vince Vaughn didn't even try to pretend he can stand her.

Anonymous said...

If Jake is so ambitious and greedy about his career, why stay with someone who is slowly poisoning it?

You can bet that Reese didn't sign the fauxmance contract which allows Jake to dump her when that suits him.

Anonymous said...

When they read that Chris is in business with his other Jake friend on MV, it rattled their cage.

Why? Chris can have only one friend?

Anonymous said...

Posted on WDW

Brothers video interviews with Jake, Natalie, Tobey, Jim, ... (on the right)

Anonymous said...

Yes, to some he is only allowed to be friends with people we see him with in pap shots on IHJ!

Chris said...

Fuck!

Anonymous said...

Chris and other Jake (Cake) are cute :)

GettyImages said...

Brothers premiere - Ang Lee and Matthew Bomer were there :)

The Cinema Society Screening Of "Brothers" - Arrivals

Anonymous said...

Awww, poor Jake, he missed a chance to meet Matt :)

Anonymous said...

Did Ang work with Tobey before too or I'm wrong?

Anonymous said...

10:23 AM

A.Lee directed Tobey in "The perfect Storm", he shared scenes with Katie Holmes, if i'm remembering correctly

Anonymous said...

^^ thanks

Anonymous said...

Ang also directed Tobey in "Ride with the Devil." How wonderful he was there!!

Anonymous said...

Reading the press conference made my head ache. Jake makes no sense. What the hell is he talking about? It's mindless rambling.

He goes off the point even on the simplest subjects. Anyone that inarticulate does not have clarity in the brain. Natalie's thought processes aren't too coherent, either. She's more educated and articulate than Jake, but she says and believes dumb things - veg/rape/polanski.

Anonymous said...

Watched the interviews. Is is just me or do they all look bored as hell.

Anonymous said...

9:20 - Good questions. Why continue in spite of the downsides? Because it's better than what he had before (ie. he has his franchise and a running buddy nearby who can pay her own way). Before, he was respectable, lonely (as all closeted ambitious gay men in HW tend to be, especially when their family is far away), and quite possibly semi-broke. He doesn't want to go back to that.

Anonymous said...

I thought Tobey made sense at the press conference.

Anonymous said...

Watched the interviews. Is is just me or do they all look bored as hell.

Can't watch the interviews right now - are the questions interesting?

Anonymous said...

Before, he was respectable, lonely (as all closeted ambitious gay men in HW tend to be, especially when their family is far away), and quite possibly semi-broke.

How much millions ONE guy needs to make a good living in LA?
I bet Jake was never semi-broke and he certainly didn't needed a beard to keep him company.

Anonymous said...

^^^ How many millions ...

Jake said...

He goes off the point even on the simplest subjects. Anyone that inarticulate does not have clarity in the brain.

I'm an artiste!

Anonymous said...

I agree with the person who said that Brothers will likely be ok, but probably not many award chances. But that's a ton better than the completely bomb that was Redition. Maybe that's a good sign that it slowly goes uphill with his movie career again?

Is Supporting Actor the Charm? said...

At the dawning of the decade, Jude Law and Colin Farrell seemed to be the actors to beat for every leading-man role. Their ubiquity and overexposure were so extreme that Chris Rock memorably mocked them at the 2005 Oscars: “You want Tom Cruise and all you can get is Jude Law? Wait! You want Russell Crowe and all you can get is Colin Farrell? Wait! Alexander is not Gladiator.”

True enough, each actor flamed out in his own way: Farrell with Alexander, Miami Vice, and Daredevil onscreen, and a sex tape, weight gain, and a rehab stint off. Law released five movies in 2004 (including the dreadful Alfie), but more memorable was the 2005 news of his affair with a nanny, which broke up his relationship with Sienna Miller. In December, both actors seek to restore their credibility with humble turns as supporting men: Farrell as the country-singing protégé to an old coot (Jeff Bridges) in Crazy Heart; Law as Dr. Watson to Robert Downey Jr.’s Sherlock Holmes. Then they pay tribute to their lost peer, Heath Ledger, by playing looking-glass iterations of Ledger’s suave con artist in Terry Gilliam’s The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus.

NY Magazine

Anonymous said...

Maybe that's a good sign that it slowly goes uphill with his movie career again?

I think that working on the interesting projects is the most important for Jake's career right now - movies like "Source Code".

Anonymous said...

^^IA.

Anonymous said...

ONTD Brothers premiere

Miss Portman is beautiful, I must admit, but she seems so stuck up.

Anonymous said...

Facebook video

Natalie Portman about kissing Jake & Tobey!

Anonymous said...

"There are certain Oscar-worthy directors who *will not* work with Jake while he beards with sociopathic Witherspoon"

really who?

Anonymous said...

"There are certain Oscar-worthy directors who *will not* work with Jake while he beards with sociopathic Witherspoon"

This is BS.

Anonymous said...

1:16PM: Alfred Hitchcock, Stanley Kubrick, John Ford, William Wellman, and Frank Capra.

Anonymous said...

LOL

Anonymous said...

Miss. Portman looks like a stuck up anorexic.
All hollywood female starlets are, I'm sure guys are like this too but in a less obvious way,i think.

Jake said...

Brothers premiere - Ang Lee and Matthew Bomer were there

*throws a tantrum*

Anonymous said...

Don't know if that was already posted but here is a great review

"http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/brothers/5008438.article"

Anonymous said...

and an other review of anne thompson. She didn't like the movie that Review of someone who didn't like the movie so much but liked Jake.

"http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2009/11/23/brothers_vs._brothers/ :

It’s hard to put your finger on why something no longer rings true: why the tough-as-nails military Dad (Sam Shepard), skinny, stressed-out veteran (Maguire) and bewildered wife (Portman) veer toward cliche. For his part, Gyllenhaal gives one of the most subtle and nuanced performances of his career."

Anonymous said...

A not so good review:

“Brothers,” Jim Sheridan’s new film, falls short of its ambitious goal to be an emotionally powerful family drama, perhaps because it’s trying too hard to do too much but in very conventional and familiar ways.

http://www.emanuellevy.com/reviews/details.cfm?id=14828

Anonymous said...

Don't know if that was already posted but here is a great review
http://www.screendaily.com/reviews/brothers/5008438.article


"Delivering career-best work" sounds like bullshit:
The film’s profile will be fuelled by the high powered cast of young Hollywood A-listers led by Tobey Maguire, Jake Gyllenhaal and Natalie Portman, each arguably delivering career-best work.

I would love to read more about the performances:
If Gyllenhaal is perhaps too genteel for the part of Tommy, Maguire conveys Sam’s internal battles skilfully, and Portman has never been this unaffected as former cheerleader Grace.

Interesting comment:
Sheridan’s only failing is in a weak and abrupt “Hollywood” ending. He offers hope and possible redemption, where Bier chose to take a more sceptical approach.

Anonymous said...

and an other review of anne thompson
http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/2009/11/23/brothers_vs._brothers/


I think Jake is the best in highly emotional roles:
For his part, Gyllenhaal gives one of the most subtle and nuanced performances of his career.

Anonymous said...

http://www.emanuellevy.com/reviews/details.cfm?id=14828

Not a word about the performances!

For “Brothers” to be emotionally powerful and dramatically compelling, it needed to be more complex, subtle, and ambiguous.

Anonymous said...

All hollywood female starlets are

I think Kate Winslet, Rachel Weisz, Zooey Deschanel all look cute and healthy and there are some other actresses too.

I like Anne, but in the last event she attended she looked as if she lost weight again. It doesn't suit her. As for Natalie, I think the problem with her is not so much her weight, but her head is too big for her body.

Anonymous said...

I remember Emmanuel Levy LOVED BBM--gave it an A

Anonymous said...

Anne looked better in those photos of her with Jake/Heath at Venice-she was very slim but slightly curvy and sexy. Now--she looks like she's suffering from starvation--no curves and looks asexual as a result.

Anonymous said...

Natalie's head size is just right :)

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