Thursday, 12 November 2009

In or Out?

KNOCK, KNOCK. WHO'S THERE? THE CLOSET. YOU'RE STILL AROUND? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!

There's been a great deal of discussion on the site [After Elton] over the past couple of weeks about gay celebrities, the closet and what constitutes being "out." And even though we've discussed the issue numerous times before, it seems like it is once again time to revisit the topic. And it's a subject that is as tricky as ever and that can have real consequences for the celebrities involved.

Perez kicked the latest round of debate off when he posted an item about White Collar's Matthew Bomer. Without citing a source or saying how he knew, Perez simply claimed Matt was an out gay man. If true, we were certainly interested in writing about Matt and his show, but as we aren't a gossip site, I wasn't going to simply repeat Perez's claims — for lots of reasons.

But I did call up Matthew's publicist and request an interview if, in fact, Perez's information was correct. Through his publicist, Matthew passed on doing the interview and the publicist told me they don't comment on their client's personal lives. And that post set off a heated discussion about outing, the closet and all the other related issues.

The issue of the closet is something we deal with at AfterElton.com a lot and we are constantly evaluating how we cover celebrities that may or may not be gay. First and foremost, we do not out people. It's our firm belief that despite the undeniably greater gay acceptance in society today, coming out still has serious ramifications for many people and is a decision to be made only by the individual in question (excluding closeted politician's, but that's another conversation for another site).

That being said, we also don't believe there is anything wrong with treating everyone the same and the questions asked of a straight celebrity are perfectly fine to ask of a gay celebrity when appropriate. Are you married? Single? What was your childhood like? How does being straight influence the way you play a gay character? Does your husband get jealous when you kiss another man? And so forth.

Here are some general observations and thoughts about where we stand today.

1) For our readers: Just because "everyone" in West Hollywood or New York "knows" Celebrity X is gay because you've seen him around town with another guy does not make it true or mean that the person is out publicly. First of all, New York and Los Angeles are not the entire world and secondly, being seen out in public with another man is not being out in any practical way.

2) For gay celebrities: Just because your family and friends know you are gay does not make you publicly out.

3) For representatives of gay celebrities: If your client is gay and your response is "no comment" because "we don't ever comment on our client's personal lives" all I have to say is "Poppycock." I may understand why you are hiding the info, but I'm not an idiot and neither are our readers. If your client discusses raising funds for Alzheimer's because their dad had it or working to fight testicular cancer because they have it or anything else not specifically about a particular role, then they do discuss their private lives.

4) There are legal issues involved. Like it or not, claiming a person is gay still has legal ramifications and you can be sued for defamation in almost half of the states in the U.S. Yes, the celebrity has to prove you are wrong, but the fact of the matter is not every celebrity rumored to be gay is gay, and I'm not about to risk my job on Perez Hilton's say so.

BTW, publicists? Please don't tell me information "off the record" and then hint you don't care what I say as long as it's without any attribution at all. Again, that could end with your client suing me and I don't traffic in gossip. Thanks, but no thanks.

5) Dear fellow journalists, please don't treat gay celebrities differently than straight ones. If you regularly ask straight actors about their spouses, children and how they personally relate to playing an ad executive from the 1950s, a starship captain or a serial killer, but avoid similar questions with those you suspect to be gay, you aren't doing your job. And given how quick you usually are to ask officially out actors about the same things you do straight ones, you know I'm right.

I can honestly say that after the success of Neil Patrick Harris has had after coming out publicly (apparently everyone in New York knew he was gay all along) I really thought things would be different and more actors would follow the Luke Macfarlane model and simply acknowledge the fact of their sexuality and move on. But I can tell you from personal experience that we still aren't there no matter how much I'd like us to be.

Which isn't to say I don't understand and appreciate the issues gay celebrities face. But the only reason things ever get better is because some people have the courage to care enough to make things better for all of us.

Source: Best. Gay. Week. Ever. (November 06, 2009), After Elton

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DL gossip said...

Cheyenne Jackson joins the cast of 30 Rock tonight.

On the show, Jane [Krakowski] will be bearding for Franco (as Ausiello reports) because it's Franco and Cheyenne whose characters are dating on the show.

by: Inside 30 ROCK

Anonymous said...

Jake is going to have a difficult time extricating himself from Reese's twisted vines IMO.

Remember yogurt pictures? Reese can't do a thing when Jake doesn't want to cooperate.

charitybuzz said...

Posted on WDW

Fly me to the Moon — Doug Liman will invite you and a guest onto the set of his upcoming action adventure movie starring Jake Gyllenhaal about a private expedition to the moon. Join us abroad in Eastern Europe or stay closer to home with U.S. filming (location and dates TBD).

DOUG LIMAN (Director/Producer) has become acknowledged as one of the most vibrant and original young voices in American film with his critically acclaimed features Swingers,Go, The Bourne Identity series, Mr. and Mrs. Smith and many more. Spend a day on the set of his new action adventure starring the one and only Jake Gyllenhaal!

Donated by: Doug Liman
Terms: Valid for 2 people in Eastern Europe or in the US. Dates and location TBD.

Donations to this auction will benefit Robert F. Kennedy Center's domestic and international human rights programs.

Visit the Set of "Trip of a Lifetime" Starring Jake Gyllenhall...a New Film From Director/Producer Doug Liman!

Anonymous said...

Another Ted and Lisa report?

real life story said...

When you find out your Prince Charming is gay

Anonymous said...

lulz, 8:17 I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how much $$ this one will sell for.

Anonymous said...

More empty bluster from Liman. Yawn. I'll believe it when I see it.

Anonymous said...

his voice come over the intercom very husky "Come up my sweet sweet lover" and he buzzed me up. I assumed he must have seen me from the street. A man behind me walked in too.

LOL

Anonymous said...

Visit the Set of "Trip of a Lifetime" Starring Jake Gyllenhall

LOL

lol said...

"Fly me to the Moon"

If it's like all the other auctions, airfare's not included!

Anonymous said...

You have to provide your own space shuttle.

Anonymous said...

A ten year-old boy with far more balls than Jake has refused to stand up for the Pledge of Allegiance until gays get full rights.

Link

LOL said...

"Mommy, mommy! Jake from 'Donnie Darko,' 'Brokeback Mountain,' and 'Jarhead' is singing! I can't wait to see him in 'Brothers!'"



The guy's a good actor, but seriously, if your Kindergartner is even aware of Gyllenhaal's existence, you may very well be something of a slack ass parent. I'm just saying.

Anonymous said...

Jake's singing to kids that, if they know who he is, it means they're neglected and abused. LOL

Anonymous said...

Donated by: Doug Liman

Jake for sale! :)

Anonymous said...

A ten year-old boy with far more balls than Jake has refused to stand up for the Pledge of Allegiance until gays get full rights.

:)

Will Phillips isn't like other boys his age.

For one thing, he's smart. Scary smart. A student in the West Fork School District in Washington County, he skipped a grade this year, going directly from the third to the fifth. When his family goes for a drive, discussions are much more apt to be about Teddy Roosevelt and terraforming Mars than they are about Spongebob Squarepants and what's playing on Radio Disney.

It was during one of those drives that the discussion turned to the pledge of allegiance and what it means. Laura Phillips is Will's mother. “Yes, my son is 10,” she said. “But he's probably more aware of the meaning of the pledge than a lot of adults. He's not just doing it rote recitation. We raised him to be aware of what's right, what's wrong, and what's fair.”

Will's family has a number of gay friends. In recent years, Laura Phillips said, they've been trying to be a straight ally to the gay community, going to the pride parades and standing up for the rights of their gay and lesbian neighbors. They've been especially dismayed by the effort to take away the rights of homosexuals – the right to marry, and the right to adopt. Given that, Will immediately saw a problem with the pledge of allegiance.

“I've always tried to analyze things because I want to be lawyer,” Will said. “I really don't feel that there's currently liberty and justice for all.”
...

Jake said...

Thanks Will!

Brothers said...

Posted on OMG by Special K

Brotherly Love Inspires Oscar Campaign

Do we have another surprise late contender ready to join “Crazy Heart” in some major Oscar races? The next couple of weeks will tell the tale, but at the moment director Jim Sheridan’s “Brothers” is starting to look as if it may become a legitimate player.

On Sunday night, the military-themed film, which is based on Danish director Susanne Bier’s award-winning 2004 movie “Brodre,” screened for members of the Directors Guild at the DGA Theater on Sunset Boulevard. The next day, the Envelope’s Pete Hammond (who moderated the post-screening discussion with Sheridan) posted an item wondering why no Oscar bloggers were talking about the film -- whereupon Hollywood Elsewhere’s Jeffrey Wells quickly pointed out that Lionsgate hadn’t screened the film for the folks Hammond was chiding.

(For a film that hasn’t been finished yet, like “Nine” or “Avatar,” a scarcity of screenings isn’t necessarily a warning sign; for a film that’s been in the can for a year, as “Brothers” has been, it can be a red flag.)

But the DGA screening has apparently set in motion a string of events that will culminate in next week’s launch of a full-fledged best-picture campaign for the film, and a best-actor push for star Tobey Maguire, who plays a soldier presumed missing in Afghanistan until he returns home to his wife (Natalie Portman) and younger brother (Jake Gyllenhaal).

To hear producer Ryan Kavanaugh tell it, the filmmakers proceeded cautiously because of uncertainty about the new landscape for Oscar campaigning. “With the change in Academy policy, we really wanted to let the film speak for itself before we made the decision whether or not to campaign,” he says. “If it got the momentum it needed once we showed it, we would do everything we could to support it as much as we can. And it certainly seemed to get that momentum.”

Others at the Sunday screening say that the film was followed by a standing ovation, a rarity for the DGA, and an enthusiastically-received 45-minute Q&A session in which a common theme was questioners wondering why the film didn’t have a higher profile in the awards race.

Between the raves from the DGA (as a group, a fairly accurate Oscar precursor) and positive comments from a few critics who’d seen the film, Sheridan’s camp reportedly decided a full campaign was in order. Lionsgate was in the thick of its campaign for Oscar frontrunner “Precious,” and was said to be surprised that the “Brothers” filmmakers suddenly wanted to shift into Oscar mode as well – but the company quickly agreed to do so.

A full slate of screenings begins next week, with Academy-geared television spots to follow. Lionsgate’s awards website now promotes the film in a wide range of categories including best picture, best director, best actor, supporting actor and actress, screenplay, and song for U2’s “Winter.” The song certainly sounds apt (“The broken and the bruised/The young and the used/The sure and confused/All here”) -- and while Kris Tapley speculates that the track may run afoul of the music branch’s strict rules because it was recorded during the band's "No Line on the Horizon" sessions, Kavanaugh says that it was "without question" written specifically for the film.

The film opens December 4.

link

Anonymous said...

Lionsgate’s awards website now promotes the film in a wide range of categories including best picture, best director, best actor, supporting actor and actress, screenplay, and song for U2’s “Winter.”

That's very optimistic and ambitious.

Anonymous said...

^^Not really. It's a common practice for Oscar-baiting films.

Anonymous said...

Between the raves from the DGA (as a group, a fairly accurate Oscar precursor) and positive comments from a few critics who’d seen the film

Which critics?

Simply Divine said...

"Amanda Peet has revealed that she asked Jake Gyllenhaal what director Roland Emmerich was like before agreeing to star in 2012. The actress told Parade that she wanted to make sure that the director was good to work with.

Peet said: "I emailed Jake Gyllenhaal, who was in Day After Tomorrow, before I signed on.

"I said, 'Is Roland Emmerich great or is he a nightmare? Tell me the truth because life is short and I need to know what's up'. And Jake replied, 'He is the most divine, great person to work for ever and you should run and do it'."

Digital Spy UK

Austin Nichols Journal said...

Governor Bev Perdue groped by Austin! :)

Anonymous said...

Austin, stop hugging random women! lol

Brothers said...

i saw the film at a preshow, before i'd seen the trailer. having seen the trailer now, i do not think it represents the film well. without going into the plot, i'll say this film is about family relationships, and it deals with them in a very realistic way. that is hard to sell in a short trailer. i suspect a re-cut trailer will emerge once the movie is released and reviews come out, and they will probably try to point out critics talking about the strong performances. they are strong performances, and i came away with an even greater respect for military families.

IMDb

Anonymous said...

But the DGA screening has apparently set in motion a string of events that will culminate in next week’s launch of a full-fledged best-picture campaign for the film, and a best-actor push for star Tobey Maguire

Oscars campaign without good reviews to back it up? It is a good way to promote the movie because people will presume that there are good reviews!

Anonymous said...

Well if Brothers really does do well and get nominated, not only will this mean that Reeke will go on for a couple of more years (because I'm betting that Jake will view this as a reward of bearding), but Reese will be stuck to Jake's side. As PR desperate as she is, she would probably try to fuck him on a red carpet so that she could get some of that Oscar attention for herself and be part of all the Award season hoopla. Bet she will have no problem talking about their "great love" or walking red carpets with Jake.

Anonymous said...

3 weeks till Brothers release date - no magazine covers for Jake or Tobey?

OT LOL said...

My Owner Is An Idiot!

Anonymous said...

the film was followed by a standing ovation

The audience was trying to run out of the theater!

Anonymous said...

If Jake DOES do press for "Brothers," even if it's a few interviews on TV shows, this will be the gist: "Jake, is it true that while you were making 'Brothers," your friend and co-star Heath Ledger died? Did you draw upon this during your emotional scenes? (They may not ask this last question but they will DEFINITELY DEFINITELY bring up the former-count on it).

And if Jake doesn't want to speak about Heath, it will be EXPRESSLY stated in the intro or stand-up after the interview that Heath died during the middle of the Brothers filming. Sorry Jake. You will not be able to run away from it.

Anonymous said...

9:02 ITA. And I hope they show a pic of him walking in the park a few days after and ask him if he was comforted by having his fiancee and his stepkids-to-be at his side during that difficult time.

Anonymous said...

"...and i came away with an even greater respect for military families"


Here we go. Military playing victims in movies to justify themselves.
They did this after Vietman and they are doing it again with Irak war.

Boring.

Anonymous said...

Come on, TV interviewers aren't going to ask Heath questions, TV movie promotion is about the movie and the actor from the movie.

Anonymous said...

9:15, you're living in moron land if you think they won't mention it before the interview. THey may not ask him that during the interview but that will ONLY be because his PR people requested it. They will absolutely refer to it--no question about it. Stop being a fool. I'm not talking about E or Entertainment Tonight or Access Hollywood. I'm talking about the Today Show or Good Morning America. HELLO.

Brothers and politics said...

Due out December 4th, “Brothers“ is a remake of a 2004 film called “Brodre,” which is summarized in part on IMDB with the following nugget:

Then Michael comes home with a full-blown case of post-traumatic stress disorder because of what he had to do to survive in captivity.

Leftist Hollywood loathes everything the American Military stands for: Honor, patriotism, selflessness and masculinity. Openly trashing the troops backfired decades ago, so the tactics had to change. Today, “support” for the troops is reflected in film after film after film stereotyping America’s best and brightest as victims, dupes, head cases and monsters.
...
‘Brothers’: Another Hollywood Slam on the Military?

Anonymous said...

9:17 ITA. And not just TV but publication journals as well - especially non-American ones.

Anonymous said...

9:15, you're living in moron land if you think they won't mention it before the interview.

There is no reason to mention Heath in the connection to the Brothers movie. Jake will be there to promote the movie, not to poor his heart out.

Anonymous said...

Leftist and Rightest Hollywood also loathes everything gay.

LOL said...

9:22 #1, you haven't seen or read very many interviews have you.

9:22 AM said...

What do you mean, 9:23 AM?

I've seen a lot of TV movie promotion interviews and they never disscussed serious private matter.

Anonymous said...

During Rendition interviews Jake was asked about/talked about his dog, cilantro, Ramona, snap-on bracelets, you name it. Actors do HUNDREDS of 5-10 minute press interviews in 1-2 days during promo time.

Anonymous said...

An emotional movie like Brothers will certainly generate personal-emotional experience questions towards the actors/director involved IMO. We'll just have to wait and see.

Anonymous said...

Yes, and it will be up to actors/director to decide how to answer such questions.

Anonymous said...

I hope they ask Jake about his upcoming nuptials. LOL!

Anonymous said...

Maybe (I hope) some of the questions to Jake will be phrased in the POV of a husband/father, like if he thought what Tommy did was ethical, now that he's getting married and has his soon-to-be stepkids Ava and Deacon to consider.

Anonymous said...

Jake is just "dating", engagement / marriage questions would be too personal and inappropriate.

lol said...

9:53 you really are naive.

9:53 AM said...

Correction - Jake is "living with the chin", but marriage questions would still be too personal and inappropriate.

Anonymous said...

9:53 you really are naive.

Naive?! You think that someone will ask Jake about his engagement plans?

Anonymous said...

now that he's getting married

Huh? Why would anyone presume / suggest that Jake is getting married?!

Jake the Fake said...

9:53 can you be my interviewer for all my movies and interviews? I like how you follow all the rules, don't ask any personal questions, don't want to be inappropriate at all, and won't try to bait me. Your interviews will be boring as hell but PR-safe and approved!

Evilyn said...

Yes I love 9:53!

Anonymous said...

They will ask personal questions, but won't ask too personal questions.

Anonymous said...

Why would anyone ask marriage questions after 2 or 3 official engagement denials?

Truth Bait said...

So Jake from what we gather Reese has finally said "yes" after your many many marriage proposals. Do you have the same great stepfather relationship with Ava and Deacon that Tommy had with Grace's children?

Anonymous said...

So Jake from what we gather Reese has finally said "yes" after your many many marriage proposals.

No one would lie like that.

no personal questions! said...

Hello, very nice to meet you, Jake! Before we get started with the official Brothers questions I just want to say congratulations to you and Reese! You've been together 2 years now, already. Wow! You make a wonderful couple! Okay let's get started with questions about the movie....

Anonymous said...

No one would lie like that.

LOLOLOL What turnip truck did you pop out of?!

Anonymous said...

I would love to see Jake's face at 10:19. LOL!

Anonymous said...

Methinks Jake is going to be hospitalized with mono or have a bad case of laryngitis at Brothers promo and press interview time.

Jake said...

Family emergency!

*wonders what story is better - Dad having a nervous breakdown, Mom in rehab, Maggie getting beaten by Peter*

Jake said...

I know! Atticus is sick!

Jake said...

Or maybe I can be upset about his sudden death...

Atticus said...

FUCK!

Anonymous said...

9:22 AM #1, if you believe that, I have some swamp land in Florida to sell you. There was an interview with Maggie a couple of months ago and she was asked about Heath. She wasn't promoting anything that had to do with him.

Anonymous said...

Why would questions about Reese's kids be important? What do you expect to hear from Jake?

Anonymous said...

Stop trying to peddle that engagement story. No one is buying it. If anything it is a sly attempt by Reese to hijack Jakes publicity. Just like she hijacks Ryans every chance she gets.

Jake said...

Duh!

Anonymous said...

11:32 AM

I got to tell you, I don't think engagement stories are part of Reese's PR plants. Coffe runs suure, living together suuure, Great bf/great stepdad Jake suuure. But the continued menace of marriage that never happens is playing against them.
Of course they can make rags write about how romantic their relationship is but,also, being famous means to get bad press sometimes and I don't think they can do anything about it.

Anonymous said...

Reeke are lucky - they are so boring that rags aren't interested in bad press about them!

Anonymous said...

If it's a so called serious or more newsy outlet, they might ask Jake about Reese--I said might--but they will absolutely, absolutely, most definitely ask about Heath or refer to him or something--even if Jake doesn't want to talk about Heath. They will then explain after the interview is over and Jake is out of the studio that Jake didn't want to speak about Heath. Like it or not, that is how and with whom Jake is associated in the public's mind. Most people didn't know who he was until he did Brokeback Mountain--and with the late Heath, who even though they were very very different, is being turned into the James Dean of his generation. Someone who is becoming a legend by virtue of his talent, his Oscar and his premature death.

Ted said...

[photo of Lance, Jake and Matthew]

Dear Ted:
What ever happened to the Lance Armstrong, Jake Gyllenhaal and Matthew McConaughey bicycling group? Was one of the trio not manly enough?
—Poga

Dear The Three Amigos:
Which one, babe? Jake and Matt's time right now is clearly all taken up by their gals and kids. They're both on tight leashes. Not to worry, though, they still bike 'n' sweat together, just not as often as we'd like to see. And Lance gets in on the buddy action, too, just not as much now that he's rethinking running for political office.

Bitch-Back! Are the Muscle Buddies Dunzo?

Anonymous said...

but they will absolutely, absolutely, most definitely ask about Heath or refer to him or something

Easy to fix if Jake really doesn't want to talk about Heath - PR will provide list of no-no questions and that's it.

Michael K said...

Johnny Depp Will Save Nicolas Cage

ATMs everywhere give Nicolas Cage the side-eye whenever he strolls up, because they know he's on his way to the poor house. Nicolas' checking account is coming up short thanks to buying stupid ass crap like real shrunken heads, a $500,000 car and two King Cobras. Nicolas Cage is a walking E! True Hollywood Story: MC Hammer. Since Nicolas needs a check I was waiting for him to announce that he's the new Cash4Gold spokeswhore, but he doesn't have to do that now. With a friend like Johnny Depp, Nicolas doesn't have to peddle that ass to the highest bidder.

A source told The Daily Express that when Johnny Depp learned that Nicolas owed almost $7 million in unpaid taxes, he stuck his hand out for his old friend. You know, if Johnny Depp offered me a hand, my ass lips would be kissing his palm faster than you could scream, "CALL 911!" I digress.

Johnny feels that he owes Nicolas everything since he's the reason why he got Nightmare on Elm Street. Nicolas introduced Johnny to his agent and the rest history.

The source went on to say, “Johnny called Nic and basically told him not to worry and he’d help him and sort everything out. Johnny feels he owes his career to Nic and now wants to repay him – if Nic agrees. Johnny has never forgotten what Nic did for him.”

Johnny Depp is a wonderful man with a penis of gold, but he needs to put his checkbook away. Nicolas Cage did this shit to himself by buying useless crap like King Tut's nutsack and Cleopatra's clit. It's called EBAY, Nicolas! Shit, I'm sure Nicolas' own son, Kal-El Coppola Cage, would give him a few million dollars to legally change his name to something that doesn't make people shake their heads out of pity.

Dlisted

Anonymous said...

There was an interview with Maggie a couple of months ago and she was asked about Heath. She wasn't promoting anything that had to do with him.

Magazine or TV interview?

Anonymous said...

12:30. That's right, because all interviewers follow the rules and would never even think of approaching a "no-no" question directly, backhandedly or sideways.

Anonymous said...

Why would they? What would be the point?

Anonymous said...

Stop trying to peddle that engagement story.

Peddle it?! I'm making fun of it.

Tbh I really would like an interviewer to mention it to Jake, to see his reaction. Or should I say, see his lying thieving bearding ass get caught.

12:54 said...

12:54 = sarcasm.

Anonymous said...

Why would Jake's pr not want him to talk about Heath (I’m not saying it isn’t so, I’m just wondering)?!

12:18 said it, he's becoming our generation's James Dean, a legend. Association with Heath would bring Jake better press than any association with the beard.

Anonymous said...

Why would Jake's pr not want him to talk about Heath

Not PR, Jake.

Anonymous said...

What is the drama? Jake only has to smile politely and say: "I rather not to talk about my private life"

..or could also start the kickings and the spittings, whatever he likes the most ;)

Anonymous said...

LOL :)

Anonymous said...

With POP early next year and PR trying to push Jake to the HW top of the heap I bet they'll buy him the People magazine's Sexiest Man Alive title for 2010, depending on how POP does.

Jake said...

I'm very polite! And cute! And sexy!

Anonymous said...

..or could also start the kickings and the spittings, whatever he likes the most ;)

Or run out the back door into his car, put the pedal to the metal and run over anyone in his path.

Interviewer said...

List for Jake Gyllenhaal

questions
shin guards
towel
rainboots

Anonymous said...

Towel in rainboots?

Anonymous said...

"Dear The Three Amigos:
Which one, babe? Jake and Matt's time right now is clearly all taken up by their gals and kids. They're both on tight leashes."

Why kidS, in plural?? As far as we know, Matthew has got a son and that is it? (well, don't get me wrong here....) Sure, another one on the way but not born yet, right?
Could Ted be refering to BT possibly, because Reese´s kids are not his, biologically?

Anonymous said...

Could Ted be refering to BT

Yes :)

hair said...

CelebratedMissK: Jake Gyllenhaal, what is this? http://bit.ly/13sr6T (expand)
3 minutes ago

Ted said...

One Daringly Domesticated Blind Vice

Poor Judas Jack-Off. He now has it as bad as permanently closeted movie star Toothy Tile. Only, I fear Judas is not even pretending to be happy, quite unlike Toothy.

Remember, our very handsome and very unkind Judas is still trying to get the ditched BF to have sex, all the while out prancing to the gullible world with his gorgeous girlfriend—whenever there's an available photo op, that is.

But whereas Toothy actually likes hanging with the beard at home and out with the kids, Judas doesn't, at least not as much.

Maybe that's the reason Judas has suggested to the GF, whom he glumly now lives with, that they should both take up...

...flying. As in, in a plane. As in 37,000 feet in the air. These two beauties are supposed to take their lives in their own hands, all 2012-like, and fly over Los Angeles like it's a damn movie set, or something?

Now, either this is a true effort on Judas' part to make their prearranged living arrangement genuinely more exciting (i.e., bearable), or Mr. J.J. is planning on using one of those parachutes that go up with these schooling planes and jumping off with his after the dimpled girlfriend's chute suddenly disappears, or better, yet, malfunctions?

It's all just too weird, too much. The sudden interest in having a hobby together (and a life-threatening one, at that), after getting shacked up in a living sitch Judas has never wanted to be in the first place. What's up, Judey?

But then, some guys are just p--sies when their managers and their agents tell them to stay put and figure out how to make it look real. Know what I mean, Toothy?

Don't go up in that plane with Judas whatever you do, girlfriend!

And It Ain't: Jake Gyllenhaal, Lance Armstrong, Matthew McConaughey

The Awful Truth

Ted said...

"Toothy actually likes hanging with the beard at home and out with the kids..."

"Jake and Matt's time right now is clearly all taken up by their gals and kids."

Anonymous said...

So is Ted implying that Jake is actually living with Reese. And WTF. Last time he wrote about Toothy he talked about how miserable he was and how he was threatening to come out. Now he says Toothy is happy with the beard.

And boy, if Jake really is happy with such a smug, fame-whoring bitch, then I think Jake has completely gone over to the dark side.

Anonymous said...

Could Ted be refering to BT

Yes :)


If there is BT, when does Jake see the kid? According to Ted he likes hanging out with RW and her kids, he is shooting movies and spends a time with Maggie and her family. To call him neglective would be an understatement.

BT is make up, I'm pretty certain.

Anonymous said...

"And It Ain't: Jake Gyllenhaal, Lance Armstrong, Matthew McConaughey"

For once!

:D

BT said...

If there is BT...

Duh!

Anonymous said...

Now he says Toothy is happy with the beard.

"Actually likes hanging with the beard"

Jake sure has a strange way to show it, LOL! BTW, I've noticed that Jake looks happier when he and the beard have company, someone else he can talk to.

Anonymous said...

I really don't care and don't feel like looking it up, but I wonder if Judas Jackoff and Dashed Dingle Dream are George Eads and Erik Szmanda, not Jared and Jensen.
November 12, 2009 1:20 PM


Looks like Jared and Jensen don't fit this latest BV.
I don't remember reading about George Eads and Erik Szmanda as guesses for Judas Jackoff and Dashed Dingle Dream BI.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Naomi love Sprinkles Cupcakes

Anonymous said...

"Toothy actually likes hanging with the beard at home and out with the kids..."

So is Ted implying that Jake is actually living with Reese


Idk. Ted never said Reeke lived together, and hanging out at home - that could mean visiting. Also I don't know if it means anything but notice the difference in "hanging with the beard at home and out with the kids" - as if he's not around the kids at home. Which he would be if he lived there. Sounds more like he's spending time visiting Reese while the kids are at school.

Anonymous said...

Well then, Jake probably likes Reese, otherwise he woulnd't like spending time with her and they seem to spend a lot of time together.

Anonymous said...

Photos don't lie, Jake doesn't like hanging with the beard. Nor opening doors for her, lol.

Anonymous said...

She's Aries, he Sagattiarius, it's a good astrological match. It's very possible they like each others company.

Anonymous said...

Photos don't lie, Jake doesn't like hanging with the beard. Nor opening doors for her, lol.

It depends. Looking at the pics where he hugged her and she wrapped her arms around him suggests that she's someone who can & does offer him comfort when he needs it.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Matt's time right now is clearly all taken up by their gals and kids.

"their gals and kids" - sure they both have "gals" Reese the beard for Jake, and Camila (whatever she is, idk) for Matt. But "kids" ? Matt has a 2-3 year old and another on the way. Jake (publicly) has no children. Even if people want to link him with the beard's kids in this case, 1) They aren't legally his 2) We hardly see him with them 3) The kids have their father, Ryan. It's not as though Jake has to fill in as their dad - they have a dad who has 50% custody and who is active in their life.

This clearly IMO points to BT. There's no other kids that Jake is having all his time taken up with. It certainly isn't Deacon and Ava, or Ramona who lives on the other side of the US.

Anonymous said...

"Jake probably likes Reese, otherwise he woulnd't like spending time with her and they seem to spend a lot of time together."

She's his best fag hag!

Anonymous said...

moronic babbler who believes in astrology is always on patrol here have you ever noticed that? also always on JJ and elsewhere...be gone babbler

Anonymous said...

Looking at the pics where he hugged her and she wrapped her arms around him suggests that she's someone who can & does offer him comfort when he needs it.

Bullshit.
Reese was using the opportunity to hug him for nice paparazzi pictures - Jake had to hug her back, but he didn't look at her.

Anonymous said...

I'm 100% sure Jake would never hide his own flesh and blood and/or neglect it. No way he has a secred baby. One day Jake will probably become a father and he will be a good, doting and proud father. He's not a psycho and this BT bullshit makes him look like a weird psycho. No way that's true.

IMO Ted either exaggerates or downright makes up stories, one of them being BT.

Anonymous said...

she's someone who can & does offer him comfort when he needs it.

Well she should. It's the least she can do when he moans about how his fans have dropped off, his charisma and sex appeal are nearly non-existent, and his movies are jokes - when she was the one who caused it. What's pathetic is that Jake doesn't even see the irony.

Anonymous said...

she's someone who can & does offer him comfort when he needs it

LMAO!!!

Anonymous said...

Jake had to hug her back, but he didn't look at her.

It's actually him who first "grabbed" her. Take a look at the pics.

Anonymous said...

Take a look at the pics.

I did, Reese was leaning in and Jake knew what is his role in that photo op, with the public looking at them.

Anonymous said...

Scorpios and Aquarius get along too. Like Charles Manson (Scorpio) and Sharon Tate (Aquarius).


Astrology might be fun but it doesn't mean shit.

Anonymous said...

5:36 IA. You also don't see Reese's other arm. Could be she was commencing the hug, not Jake. Also to consider: Jake may have had to have some chemical help to get him thru that day.

Anonymous said...

Scorpios and Aquarius get along too. Like Charles Manson (Scorpio) and Sharon Tate (Aquarius).



FUCKING LOL!!! 5:36 PM, I don't know if you are a girl or a guy but please MARRY ME!

Anonymous said...

The ass poke. LOL! I know my guys and my gays - and what that was, was Jake incredulous that Reese was wearing her bathing suit bottom under her dress.

Anonymous said...

Jake may have had to have some chemical help to get him thru that day.

If it is so hard being with Reese, why is Jake spending time with her in her house? He doesn't have to if he doesn't want to.
Even Ted says he likes spending time with her. Why is that so hard to believe for some here?

Anonymous said...

Scorpios and Aquarius get along too. Like Charles Manson (Scorpio) and Sharon Tate (Aquarius).

That's tasteless.

Anonymous said...

Remember that video of Reeke having a dinner for paparazzi (Jake's birthday?) when Reese was eating and crying crocodile tears and Jake looked midly annoyed and did nothing to "comfort" her?

5:36 said...

5:42, Okay but I want to see the ring first! (2 carat, minimum)

Anonymous said...

Even Ted says he likes spending time with her. Why is that so hard to believe for some here?

Because what we can see tells VERY different story. Yogurt pictures?

Anonymous said...

Sorry, baby.No ring :(

But I promise to actually marry you, and don't go all Reeke on you and plant fake engagements in the media

Jake said...

I like spending time with Reese because she gives me tons of career advice!

5:36 said...

Okay, sounds good!













P.S. Will we be having any sex?

Anonymous said...

Because what we can see tells VERY different story. Yogurt pictures?

Looking bored and running to the plane at the end of Reese's Euro promo tour? LOL, I ALMOST felt sorry for Jake.

Anonymous said...

Because what we can see tells VERY different story. Yogurt pictures?

We don't know the context of it. I strongly believe he doesn't want the kids pictured. I think he's quite protective of them.

Anonymous said...

Jake did Philly concert and MV photo ops with her kids, he doesn't care.

Anonymous said...

Jake did Philly concert and MV photo ops with her kids, he doesn't care.

The MV photographer got fired after his pics appeared.

Anonymous said...

We don't know the context of it. I strongly believe he doesn't want the kids pictured. I think he's quite protective of them.

^^^

Well, too late for that now.

Anonymous said...

We don't know the context of it.

We know that Jake didn't want to be there with Reese and her kids.

Anonymous said...

The MV photographer got fired after his pics appeared.

So what?

Anonymous said...

So what?

He got fired because Jake complained that the pics appeared in rags.

Anonymous said...

"The MV photographer got fired after his pics appeared."

Not because of Jake/kids. It was because he was selling pics on the side that technically were property of the MV race group, since he had been hired by them to do the race pics.

Anonymous said...

^^ I guess the photographer sold them to the rags.

Anonymous said...

"He got fired because Jake complained that the pics appeared in rags."

Please provide a link.

Anonymous said...

Not because of Jake/kids. It was because he was selling pics on the side that technically were property of the MV race group, since he had been hired by them to do the race pics.

It also had to do with Jake, because he apologized to Jake or Jake's management.

Anonymous said...

No, Jake didn't complain - people of MV think that Jake isn't just another publicity whore and they weren't happy about those pictures.

Anonymous said...

Please provide a link.

It was a facebook entry that was posted here a few months ago. I don't have the link anymore, but I think others on WFT2 read the entry as well.

Anonymous said...

he apologized to Jake or Jake's management

And Jake management said "No problem, you did us a favour!" lol

Anonymous said...

I think others on WFT2 read the entry as well

We did, Jake didn't complain.

Anonymous said...

We did, Jake didn't complain.

The photographer still apologized to him, so there must have been something. If Jake was ok with it, there wouldn't have been a need to apologize.

Anonymous said...

Babbler, Jake did numerous photo ops with the beard's kids. If he was against using them and protective of them as you say, he wouldn't have gone along with the photo ops.

Anonymous said...

"If Jake was ok with it, there wouldn't have been a need to apologize."

Not necessarily.

Anonymous said...

The photographer still apologized to him, so there must have been something

Did you expect Jake to tell him the truth about MV photo op and thank him for the extra publicity? LOL

Anonymous said...

Jake is a self-loathing closeted, ballness momma's boy. Of course he would hide his own child.

Anonymous said...

Most of the photo-ops with the bears's kids turned out to shit. The children always looked bored/annoyed/confused.

I think putting a stop to that is a good idea for now.

Anonymous said...

^^Maybe not all pics with the kids were planned ops?

In the end, I don't care about Reeke and the kids. I have people I prefer (and prefered) him to be with. I'm hopefull Reeke will end soon.

Anonymous said...

Forgot to add he clearly cares more about money and crappy franchise movies and becoming a STAR than anything else .

Anonymous said...

^^

Ha ha, it's "beard's kids"

Anonymous said...

Forgot to add he clearly cares more about money and crappy franchise movies and becoming a STAR than anything else .

That's a good thing, bitchy beard doesn't give a shit about Jake either.

Anonymous said...

That's a good thing, bitchy beard doesn't give a shit about Jake either.

No one here knows how they are to each other or how they feel for each other.

Before you call me a babbler, I repeat I prefer him with other people. I'm not a fan of Reese at all.

Anonymous said...

No one here knows how they are to each other or how they feel for each other.

Yes, we do know - they bore each other.

Anonymous said...

Yes, we do know - Reese cares only about herself.

Jake said...

Duh!

Anonymous said...

permanently closeted movie star Toothy Tile

I wonder what Ted means by "permanently closeted" - seems like he goes back and forth on it. Does "permanently closeted" mean Jake will be getting married to a beard or be a 'confirmed bachelor'?

Anonymous said...

I think it just means that Jake won't come out of the closet.

Anonymous said...

permanently closeted

Man makes plans...and God laughs.

LOL said...

MollyDelane: Jake Gyllenhaal playing the Prince of Persia? and the video game was so good. Oh well. Ill just keep my hopes up for Mortal Kombat 2010.

Anonymous said...

I think it just means that Jake won't come out of the closet.

Perhaps he won't come out because he's not gay? Perhaps he's either a straight guy who experimented with men in the past or he's bi.

Anonymous said...

Ted said Jake is gay, closeted and bearding - with that I agree 100%.

Anonymous said...

As far as I remember in some of Ted's first BI's he said Jake was bi. I think Ted doesn't know either. What I believe 100% is that Jake's no stranger to homo loving.

Anonymous said...

Ted believes Jake is gay, he said that more than once.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe after all this time and proof to the contrary that someone actually said this:

"We don't know the context of it. I strongly believe he doesn't want the kids pictured. I think he's quite protective of them."

GAG ME! The one person who seem very protective of the kids is their father. Their mother and her "boyfriend" use them like props. They do know how to look disgusted by the the paps but that's nothin but acting.

Anonymous said...

I thought that Jake is bi for one day - until I saw all Rome photos.

As far as I'm concerned, bearding with Reese confirms that Jake is gay.

Anonymous said...

The Rome thing was tacky. No matter if it was to promote their flick or the supposed fauxmance. :(

Anonymous said...

Ted: "But then, some guys are just p--sies when their managers and their agents tell them to stay put and figure out how to make it look real. Know what I mean, Toothy?"

Jake said...

*cough*

Anonymous said...

p--sies

pansies or pussies?!!

Anonymous said...

Someone at Blind Gossip pointed out that Jared Padalecki was in Friday the 13th, which is today's date for today's BV about Judas Jack Off.

Anonymous said...

Re the ass grab. Hate to be crude, but straight guys go for the buns. Don't gay guys go for the hole? That is where it looked like he was headed.

Like any working relationship, I think sometimes Jake likes his coworker and sometimes he doesn't.

Anonymous said...

IA 12:39. A straight guy would put his flat hand on the butt, feeling the edges of the undergarment and the sides and say,"You're going to wear a bathing suit bottom all day?" A gay guy would poke his finger in the crack towards the anus while saying the same thing.

Anonymous said...

I missed the beginning of Conan with the beard. Idk if she talked or was asked about Jake. This is what I caught:

"I have a dog at home"
"I have a farm"
"I have a pig"
"I have chickens"

^^ Then she would talk about something related to it and use "we" like "we feed the chickens"

Hawked her Avon perfume and the 4C and MvA dvds that are coming out. The "I have a ____ " is funny since it's in the singular. Don't couples say "we" or at least include the other in the story/convo?!!

Anonymous said...

She said she threw all the candy that didn't get handed out at Halloween in the trash. ??

She also talked (AGAIN) about throwing her garbage in her neighbor's bins, and wearing rubber boots to smash it down. Didn't she tell the same thing on Ellen last year or the year before?

She didn't say anything about her gay bf.

Here's the Tonight Show link to watch episodes in case anyone feels masochistic.

Ugh those high heels she wears. What I really noticed is how vigorously she swings her arms when she walks. It's a sign of low class. (really)

Anonymous said...

Someday something unexpected will happen and Jake's fake little life will come crashing down.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait, 4:41.

Anonymous said...

Man plans...God laughs.

Anonymous said...

I can't wait either. I just hope when it happens we won't all fall dead out of our chairs in the Rec room at the Senior Center.

Anonymous said...

Reese says her daughter is completely embarrassed by her. Duh! I would be too if my Mom was involved in a bearding contract and the whole world knew!
What a stupid faker. I agree she swings her arms in a odd way, I think she's scared she'll fall off those high, high heels. LOL

Anonymous said...

Cultured gentleman and ladies don't swing their arms like monkeys while they're walking.

Anonymous said...

I was shocked when she said that, after all the trick and treaters were gone, she had a huge amount of candy left so she went and threw it in the garbage. WTF? I mean you don't have to keep it for yourself if you're tempted, donate it to something. What a waste. She sounds like she's so obsessed with getting rid of stuff that she's throwing good things away. I wouldn't be surprised if she throws out any canned goods that have been in the cupboard for more than 2 weeks. She said she spends about 6 hours a day "organizing." She sounds like a freakin nut case.

Anonymous said...

IMO the older she gets, Reese becomes more fake and phony. Come to think of it, she actually comes off as psycho and unbalanced. After seeing the Conan interview, I really think there's something seriously wrong with her. What I don't get is how Jake can stand being around her. He must be a mental case himself.

Anonymous said...

"She said she spends about 6 hours a day "organizing." She sounds like a freakin nut case."

Wtf? 6 hours a day organizing?? When you do 1 crappy movie a year and the rest of the year you have nothing, you spend 6 hours a day organizing what?!

Anonymous said...

Jake's around her only for photo ops and for the publicity he can get out of it, the stupid mama's boy idiot.

Anonymous said...

Photo ops or PR, he still has to go places with her, socialize with her, drive with her in the car, listen to her at meals, etc. Seriously, they both are a piece of work.

Anonymous said...

7:56 AM

Huh??? Do you think that Reese beards for Jake because she likes him?!

Anonymous said...

Here's the Tonight Show link to watch episodes in case anyone feels masochistic.

Thanks for posting and for the report so others wouldn't have to suffer :)

Anonymous said...

She said she spends about 6 hours a day "organizing." She sounds like a freakin nut case.

6 hours a day? How dumb is that bitch?

Brothers said...

I would have thought Brothers would be in the conversation by now. You know the conversation, the end-of-the-year talk where movies come out of nowhere to gain the indie world's rapt attention. But so far, it's kind of flying under the radar.

Natalie Portman, Jake Gyllenhaal, Tobey Maguire, and six-time Oscar nominee Jim Sheridan are a pretty good foursome. Seriously, Jim Sheridan has six Academy Award nominations, so maybe Brothers being under the radar is par for the course. (No more golf references, I promise.) The lone trouble spot - unless it's just terribly maudlin - is that this has a war undertone. That won't diminish the quality of the film, but it could stand in its way when it comes to finding an audience.

get the big picture

Brothers said...

BROTHERS Trivia Friday: What is the name of the award Jake Gyllenhaal won at the 2005 Hollywood Film Festival?

Hollywood Breakthrough Award

http://twitter.com/lionsgatemovies

Anonymous said...

She also made the same comment about how she tells her rapist brother about her garbage habits and his says "sister meee tooo". I think that part of the story is an opportunity to use her thick Southern accent.

She is such a sociopath. I can't stand the way she imitates Ava. It must driver that kid crazy.

Anonymous said...

Reese Witherspoon is incredibly dull.

Anonymous said...

The arms swinging is an attempt to be cutesy and "dance" to the great band. She's so incredibly fake.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Naomi love Sprinkles Cupcakes

Awwww, how cute is that? :)

Batali tidbit said...

Michelle Obama’s vegetable garden is about to become a culinary battlefield.
The Food Network announced Wednesday that an episode of “Iron Chef America” will be taped at the White House featuring Mario Batali, Bobby Flay and Emeril Lagasse. The three chefs, joined by White House chef Cristeta Comerford, will be welcomed by the first lady and allowed to use anything found in the garden to help create their meals.

bad boy! said...

"Harry Potter" star Daniel Radcliffe has denied he's a pothead after he was photographed smoking what looked like a joint at a London party.

The boy-wizard actor insists he was puffing on a hand-rolled cigarette. Radcliffe was pictured on a newspaper front page smoking with a bizarre, comic-looking beard etched on his face. His rep said, "Daniel does smoke the occasional roll-up cigarette, but he was not doing anything more than this." "Potter" fans have already been rocked by the clean-cut star's nude turn on Broadway in "Equus," and his admission that he likes cougars. But enjoying the magical weed apparently would have been a step too far. The incident comes months after Radcliffe's "Potter" co-star, Jamie Waylett, who plays Vincent Crabbe, admitted that he grew cannabis plants and was ordered to do 120 hours of community service.

Anonymous said...

Who cares about that fat, smelly slob Mario? He cheats on his wife with skanky waitreses.

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