Friday 20 February 2009

The Loneliest Places


30 October 2005

'My experience on Jarhead was lifechanging,' says Jake Gyllenhaal. 'Because I've worked with directors a lot who thought I was a certain thing and fit me into that box, you know. And Sam wasn't like that at all. And Ang is, though I hate the word, an auteur. The last two movies I shot, though I didn't know it at the time, were really about loneliness - and what you find in the loneliest of places. Plains and mountains that go on forever, deserts that are hot and dry with nothing growing ... and go on forever. That's why I gravitated toward them, I suppose.

'Some movies you fall a step behind,' he adds, 'and some you stay in the same place, make the same choices. And then sometimes there are people who know more than you but show you, and that's the maximum you can hope for - doing that with someone who says, "I like you for what you are, and I want you to be in my picture." I didn't have to fake it or put on a mask - all the resources I had inside me were more than adequate. I don't want to pretend to be something ... I'm not pretending any more to fit somebody's mould. That's a longwinded statement but - why not do what you really think, even if it's a mistake?'

Source: Jake's progress, guardian.co.uk

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Anonymous said...

1:24, Austin doesn't have any choice. He's a nobody. If you don't think he wouldn't want to be in a room with the movers and shakers in his chosen profession, you are delusional.

Austin stay in the shadows in shame because its what he has to do if he wants to hang on to his higher profile (actor with an actual career) boyfriend.

Let me more fully explain. Austin is a spineless nobody who hangs on because he's got nothing else. He's useful to Jake because Jake knows he will provide the sex and keep his mouth shut. Jake may have loved in the beginning, but not anymore (which is why I believe its so easy to disregard him) but Austin will be good enough until the real deal comes along.

Anonymous said...

Why such bile?

Anonymous said...

1:57, Personally, I don't think they're "together" anymore--at least not on a permanent, regular basis. I think Jake is going the casual hookup basis until he finds his next steady guy.

Anonymous said...

Higher profile (actor with an actual career) boyfriend.

This remains to be seen. Nailed is meh, Brothers who knows, and he'd better hope PoP doesn't flop! All he really has is an outstanding performance in Brokeback Mountain (and, of course, the walk through fauxmance).

Anonymous said...

Donnie Darko, Moonlight Mile, Rendition. Regardless of the commercial success of any of these films, that fact that they were commercial releases in which he's had lead roles gives him a profile in Hollywood that Austin wishes he had.

Naile probably will go straight to DVD, but Brothers has a good cast and director so I am sure it will do fine especially if it does well during the festival circuit. With POP, alot will depend on how its marketed. I remember the people who didn't think Heath could pull off the Joker. Jake may just surprise us. A number of my friends think he is underrated.

1:57 was hard, but no harder than any of the other stuff that gets posted about Jake and Reese. It's just that someone aimed at Austin.

And as far I can see, told the truth.

Anonymous said...

It's all speculation. Heath is a better actor than Jake, so of course he could pull it off, and got an Academy Award for it.

Anonymous said...

Bearding, awards ceremonies, parties, it's WORK, a JOB. Sure its a bitch now but planning and saving for the future is never easy.

Anonymous said...

^^Exactly.

Anonymous said...

I mean, let's face it, Jake's a good actor, and I know it's heresy to say this, but there are better actors in the world than he is. His career is still young. I wonder if he is very competitive and ambitious, and if he saw Heath as a rival. It's a competitive business.

Anonymous said...

I hope Austin is saving all of his notes for his tell-all book because he's going to need it once Jake kicks him to the curb.

I hate it, but Jake's made his decision, and he's going to play the game. If Austin is sanctioning this because he thinks he is going to benefit somehow, then, he's even more despicable than Jake. He's an enabler and just as much of a prostitute as Jake.

But his karma will come once Jake acheive his goals and then dumps him.

Anonymous said...

Jake will have his own karma when Pop flops.

Anonymous said...

1:57 was hard, but no harder than any of the other stuff that gets posted about Jake and Reese.

Reese and Jake ask for it. Repeatedly.
Austin is working and staying under the radar.

Anonymous said...

^^ITA.

Anonymous said...

1:57 pm, you are saying that being more successful professionally means being superior as a person. So by your reasoning Reese is superior to Jake and Jake is superior to Austin, just because they earn more money and have higher profile jobs. That is nasty and only shows you are judging Austin on a very superficial basis. Just because you don’t like him, doesn’t mean Jake might feel the same. Just say you don't personally like him for Jake, but don't give ridiculous arguments about his worth as a person based on your judgement of his career.

Anonymous said...

Totally agree 3:06. I'll also add that they're not joined at the hip. Austin is not bearding and works steadily, something 95% of people who call themselves actors can't claim. I'm not going to attack Austin for staying with someone who is making stupid career choices. And that's what we're talking about, because I think most of us here think that Reeke is pretty much limited to photo opps and other work, they're not living together.

Finally, I just know that if Austin was out there with Jake going to these parties, etc. then you'd all be telling us what a user Austin is. You don't like Austin, we get it. Not going to change my mind about him no matter how much hate you spew.

Anonymous said...

You notice that no matter what happens, Jake has still not spoken of his undying love firsthand in the media - and Reese is still hemming and hawing - ah, er, um, oh, no, no, um, we had to kiss, he's so supportive, etc. The media has filled in the blanks. So until I hear otherwise, the possibility certainly exists that it's a fauxmance.

Anonymous said...

Look at his face, not at hers. He doesn't look happy at all. He looks like mommy just gave him a spanking for saying he didn't want to go to the party.


Ok, the picture of them hand in hand is interesting. Her hand clasps his but his hand is totally flat, open palm, open fingered.

http://i41.tinypic.com/208vc08.jpg

The other major thing is...has anyone noticed how in the post-Halperin Oscar dress and Jake looks sad/she has gothic eyeliner on her shebang Reese's magical mystery pregnancy has suddenly vanished (at least, for this week).

Anonymous said...

Ok, the picture of them hand in hand is interesting. Her hand clasps his but his hand is totally flat, open palm, open fingered.

"hand in hand"

Anonymous said...

Caricature drawing of Reese on the Red Carpet PS read Stabby McGee's comment..LOL

Anonymous said...

^^^ The chin! LMAO

"Reese Witherspoon really set the cat amongst the Oscar red carpet fashion pigeons with this avant-garde Rodarte frock, which looked so much like this picture that it’s scary."

Anonymous said...

Lainey had one thing right - it looks like a figure skater's costume with those sheer panels. Avant garde my a$$.

Anonymous said...

Stabby McGee Says:
February 24th, 2009 at 2:26 pm

Was the penis Reese Witherspoon appears to be clutching drawn intentionally, or is it just a genius coincidence?

Anonymous said...

Thanks 3:34, I always fuck up with the URL posting! ;)

Anonymous said...

Ok, the picture of them hand in hand is interesting. Her hand clasps his but his hand is totally flat, open palm, open fingered.

There's a cashier's check in there somewhere.

Anonymous said...

I'm not going to attack Austin for staying with someone who is making stupid career choices.

^^ You don't have to, Jake dumped his ass some time ago. Jake's boinking Reese occasionally and she serves a good bearding purpose and Clooney is on the side.
Jake finnally caught on, stopped fighting Clooney's advice and he's all smiles again. Man, what visuals I'm getting.
Jake, Mr. Clooney, I wanna watch!

Anonymous said...

So you say if Jake goes down by being Outed, it's gonna be worth his while with a mature, confident, socially aware beautiful man who beards also???
And he damn sure can work a room.
Jake is learning.

Anonymous said...

George should run for office. :)

Anonymous said...

"Jake's boinking Reese occasionally"


LMAO

Anonymous said...

Jake and Reese don't"ask for it." You make a choice to get upset and "give it to them." Austin isn't "staying under the radar." He working where he can. OTH is the best he's got. He doesn't have to worry about bearding because no body cares about him. If he ever reaches Jake's level, he will do whatever he's told. Just like now.

The fact that this bearding has his blessing says alot about his worth as a person. And yes, by whatever measure you chose Jake and Reese are alot more sucessful than Austin so it's in his interest to hang onto Jake.

I am sure Jake likes Austin, he puts up with whatever Jake does.

I don't like Reese or Austin. They are deadwood, and Jake needs to be rid of them. He needs a fresh start.

Anonymous said...

I guess 3.56 thinks I'm "deadwood" too.

Anonymous said...

As expected, the predictable highs of awards season quickly recede, and all that we're left with is a guy with three postponed films, a nervous Bruckheimer crossing his fingers about PoP, an unfinished movie script that has been passed around for 2 years, a pathetic fauxmance, no new confirmed movie roles in the future, on-going gay rumors and the unshakable feeling that if PoP hadn't gone through, someone would be in a world of professional trouble. In other words, it's just another day in JG's neighborhood.

Anonymous said...

NO Baby Tile, Austin didn't tell you? You belong to the Octuplet MoM. She'll take time with you.

Anonymous said...

anon 4:07 Give it a REST will you. You just gave a description of 85% of the male, (and some leading male) actors in Hollywood.
It's OLD.

Anonymous said...

^^Her docs were extremely irresponsible - she already has six kids, no partner and no job - now with eight more the other six get negelected. Way to go docs! More care is taken for plastic surgery - a psychological assessemtn is done. Shows where priorities are.

Anonymous said...

Sorry, it was for anon 4:06, not 4:07.

Anonymous said...

Way to go docs! More care is taken for plastic surgery - a psychological assessemtn is done. Shows where priorities are.

^^ This could also be said for the (BABY TILE) donors / carrier!!

Anonymous said...

Not at all, if she's doing it for someone else.

Anonymous said...

I am sure when Jake dumps Austin, he'll be sure to send him out the door with a check for Baby Tile ( I cannot believe anyone would buy into that nonsense).

Thank you 4:10 for that refeshing dose of reality.

Jake and George. Now there's a beautiful pairing.

It must be disheartening to fantasize about such great men (Heath, George), men in the same profession as yourself and then you look at what you've got. Jake can do better, and he should.

At least Austin will do as he's told and keep his mouth shut.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Reese don't"ask for it." You make a choice to get upset and "give it to them." Austin isn't "staying under the radar."

Yes, Jake and Reese ask for it. Reeke is using PR and paparazzi to promote and market the fauxmance. They are planning tabloid covers, they are asking for attention, they want to be noticed. We took notice and Reeke PR should be pleased.

Austin is working and does a bit of promotion from time to time (interviews, blogging), but there is no other PR. I think that's staying under the radar.

Anonymous said...

"anon 4:07 Give it a REST will you. You just gave a description of 85% of the male, (and some leading male) actors in Hollywood.
It's OLD."

Exactly what planet are you living on? Is your success threshood for Jake so low that you're only interested in Oscar gossip?

How many actors are affiliated with huge Disney pictures, AND have years of unfinished scripts AND have gay rumors AND are engaged in a fauxmance AND have three postponed films? You name just one of that 85% that you clearly pulled out of your ass, and maybe I'll take you seriously. Until then, stop wasting bandwidth.

Everything I just said is absolutely true, and I suspect that there are VERY few if any actors in Hollywood, A-List or otherwise, who satisfy ALL of my criteria.

If you, probably another pro-Reeke Babbler determined to ignore the fact that Jake career has been stagnating *for years*, can't handle the truth, then go back to creaming over Reese's gown pics in Hello! and US Weekly. Leave the serious discussion to the adults.

Anonymous said...

3:45 PM

Jake doesn't fuck The Chin.
Jake is bearding with Reese because he wants sex with men.

Anonymous said...

His thing doesnt fit into her thing.

Anonymous said...

Exactly what planet are you living on? Is your success threshood for Jake so low that you're only interested in Oscar gossip?

^^ No. But you seem to be just that dense to believe that the example you gave only applies to Jake and Jake only. You're wrong! Where have you been or are you just that obsessed with Jake that you can't see beyond the J/A, toothytile, babytile rumors? If so, you need help.

Anonymous said...

If I'm not mistaken, Jarhead and Brokeback came out in 2005. Rendition came out in 2007. Brothers will come out this year, 2009. POP will come out in 2010.

That's averaging about a picture per year. I'd say that's not too bad.

4:45, you really don't think other actors have plenty of scripts of movies that never get made? I must say I admire your ability to pull together as many unrelated things as possible to make Jake's career look totally stagnant.

Even if I agree with your reasoning, no big deal. Everyone goes through stagnant periods. Although, you are talking about a man who just made three movies back to back. That's alot of work in a relatively short period of time.

Jake is not in these movies by himself. Their rescheduling or postponment doesn't reflect any more on him than it does on his costars or the directors.

The man's only 28. I think he has a long career ahead of him if he choses to remain in this profession.

Anonymous said...

*Shit, that child already has a dirty mind!*

Anonymous said...

The person writing all the Austin hate posts sounds a lot like the same person who is always telling us that Jake is bi and with Reese and that we should just basically suck it.

New day, new tactics.

Anonymous said...

Talk about obsessed and needing help! lol

Anonymous said...

Name just one member of the other 85%, a male actor who satisfies ALL of my criteria. Unless you can, you're wasting time. You're also implicitly excusing Jake's career stall by suggesting that other actors are going through the exact same thing. I can't think of anyone in exactly the same situation as Jake, and even if I could, that would not excuse the pathology of his career arc.

So, once again, name another male actor in Hollywood who satisfies ALL of my criteria. Or go back to watching the E! Channel. And I will return to JG life during the 360 days of the year when he *isn't* walking down someone's red carpet.

Anonymous said...

If you, probably another pro-Reeke Babbler determined to ignore the fact that Jake career has been stagnating *for years*, can't handle the truth, then go back to creaming over Reese's gown pics in Hello! and US Weekly. Leave the serious discussion to the adults.

What? Handle the truth? If YOU don't like what Jake and Reese are doing, why the hell are YOU still here bitching about bearding? Surely you should be fed up by now that your A list star is bearding and has not come out. Kettle / PoT / BLACK ??? WOW
And you can't handle the fact that (IF) Jake is bearding, it's (HIS LIFE) and his business, NOT YOURS?
Where do you fit in this equation???

Anonymous said...

The person writing all the Austin hate posts sounds a lot like the same person who is always telling us that Jake is bi and with Reese and that we should just basically suck it.

And that person sounds like the person who says that Baby Tile is fake, and that person sounds like the person who says that Austin and Jake broke up, and that person sounds like the person who said Jake was with Chris...

Oh my Goddess, there aren't lots of people with different opinions, there's just ONE person who disagrees with everything! Mystery solved, no need to debate them anymore, let's all just ignore them and drool over Jake and Austin and knit mittens for Baby T!

Anonymous said...

"Where do you fit in this equation???"

With all the other fangirls on this board. Shit, are you new here? This is where all the creepy slash fans in their 30s and 40s come to bitch and moan like a bunch of mothers-in-law about their "son's" girlfriend. "she's evil, she's ugly, she's just not good enough for my boy! She makes him unhappy, why doesn't he get rid of her like I want him to? Why won't he listen to meeeeeeeee??????"

Just kick back and laugh at them like the rest of us lurkers.

Anonymous said...

***Oh my Goddess, there aren't lots of people with different opinions, there's just ONE person who disagrees with everything! Mystery solved, no need to debate them anymore, let's all just ignore them and drool over Jake and Austin and knit mittens for Baby T!***

LMAO some here are delusional. And it would be in their best interst to believe this.
It helps their cause!

Anonymous said...

Jake finnally caught on, stopped fighting Clooney's advice and he's all smiles again. Man, what visuals I'm getting.
Jake, Mr. Clooney, I wanna watch!"

Even though I know this is nothing more than a fan spouting fanfic, boy would I LOVE FLOVE (should I say) for this to be true. Talk about 500 watt hotness!!

Anonymous said...

anon 5:16, best laugh I've had all day.

Anonymous said...

My gawd who's talking to who and answering themselves? Looks like its almost time for the kiddies to be fed, washed and put to bed.

Anonymous said...

My gawd who's talking to who and answering themselves?

Duh, I just solved this one already: everyone who disagrees with you is just one person talking to themselves. Try to keep up.

Anonymous said...

(let's all just ignore them and drool over Jake and Austin and knit mittens for Baby T!)

Come on, it's not fair. I wanted to knit booties for babytile.

Anonymous said...

Nope sorry 5:35, you got it all wrong. I just came in and saw all the nonsense posts. Odd convos, nothing makes any sense or has a point. Like they were written by a bunch of tweens trolling the boards. but of course you'll disagree.. don't bother answering cos I already know what you and your 2 "buddies" will say.. Remember to do your book report homework.

Anonymous said...

George and Jake

Anonymous said...

baby tile said...

His thing doesnt fit into her thing.

:-\ Er, um, thank you Baby Tile that is very helpful to know. :D

Anonymous said...

Mittens? Booties? That shit is for babies. I need big leather boots not some knit crap.

Anonymous said...

Kettle / PoT / BLACK ??? WOW
And you can't handle the fact that (IF) Jake is bearding, it's (HIS LIFE) and his business, NOT YOURS?


Remember, we know who you are. :P

Anonymous said...

Interesting. 5:07 basically ignored the points in 5:02, #1's post. That post brought up the ways in which 5:07's original post doesn't quite add up if you step back and look at JG's movie timeline. 5:07 wants Jake to look like a failure and so strung together unrelated items to make it appear so.

So how does having almost a movie per year come out fit into that?

Every career has highs and lows.
Jake is 28. He's got a long road ahead of him. I am sure he will be fine.

I realize some of you need for him to fail because you somehow think that it will justify/reward your anger. You might want to get over that; you might not get your wish.

5:16 #1 and 2. Thank you. Reality is hard for some, ain't it.

Anonymous said...

Jake is bearding.

His bearding (1) reveals that things are much worse than I'd like to think, and (2) is making things worse.

He is free to do what he wants, and I am free to talk with people about how I feel about it.

I wish him all the best, but I do think he's making a mistake.

Anonymous said...

need for him to fail

need him to be gay

What's next?

Anonymous said...

(let's all just ignore them and drool over Jake and Austin and knit mittens for Baby T!)

You do know Jake and Reese's people know who you are. They approve of the promoting.

Anonymous said...

Forget the Giraffe and the Midget. Jake and George all the way!

Now, that's a hot couple. C'mon Jake. Dump those two, and get yourself the real deal.

Anonymous said...

Remember to do your book report homework.

..otherwise you'll go through life thinking that "cos" is an acceptable contraction of "because".

Anonymous said...

I see Reeke at the Vanity Fair party only kept the babblers and trolls happy for less than 48 hours. But now that that've told each other how beautiful Reese was and how sooooo in love Jake is I guess they couldn't stand it anymore and had to come bother us again.

Anonymous said...

I think Clooney is one of the hottest actors there is, but somehow I just don't find the idea of him with Jake hot. Too similar in the kind of looks they have for my taste I guess.

Anonymous said...

Baby Tile said: His thing doesnt fit into her thing.

Well yes, normally I'd say it's because he's too big and she's too tiny but in Jake's case it's because he's too small and she's too female.

Anonymous said...

Fuck! I thought Penelope, Mia and Salma would keep babblers happy for another 48 hours.

Anonymous said...

"You do know Jake and Reese's people know who you are."

I didn't know that. How do they know who I am? In fact, how do you know that they know who I am? Wait, does that mean YOU are one of Jake and Reese's people? So the one person who disagrees with everyone also works for Jake and Reese! I should have known.

Anonymous said...

he's too small BECAUSE she's too female.

Anonymous said...

I know where you all live!

Anonymous said...

Well yes, normally I'd say it's because he's too big and she's too tiny but in Jake's case it's because he's too small and she's too female.

^^ Some have to stoop real low. All because he has ruined the fantasy.
If he was out, he'd be called big daddy Jake!

Anonymous said...

*uh oh*

Anonymous said...

All because he has ruined the fantasy.

You've spent too much time with the JiS fangirls.

Anonymous said...

You'll all be getting letters!

Anonymous said...

6:08

doesn't fit = no hardon (too small)

Anonymous said...

6:08

Reese = no hardon

Anonymous said...

That's right. We "trolls" and "babblers" will keep right on posting here.

Like anyone is going to put off by your juvenile name calling.

Or is posting something of interest just too difficult for you? Discourse and disagreement too taxing for you?

Anonymous said...

Disney CEO, my guess is a delicious red apple will be in with each letter?

Anonymous said...

"That's right. We "trolls" and "babblers" will keep right on posting here.

Like anyone is going to put off by your juvenile name calling.

Or is posting something of interest just too difficult for you? Discourse and disagreement too taxing for you?"



Who the hell are you talking to?

LOL

Anonymous said...

We "trolls" and "babblers" will keep right on posting here.

Why?

Anonymous said...

Why?

For the lolz

Anonymous said...

That's right. We "trolls" and "babblers" will keep right on posting here.

Welcome to our humble abode Queen Beruthiel. Here's a goblet in which to spit your venom.

Anonymous said...

Just proves my point, UV and FL don't allow them to have any fun for fear that something that could be interpreted as a slight of Reeke would somehow be seen by Jake, thereby ruining their chances at sainthood.

Anonymous said...

For the lolz

When are you going to post something even remotely lol-worthy?

Anonymous said...

Yet another screw up.

Anonymous said...

UV and FL don't allow them to have any fun for fear that something that could be interpreted as a slight of Reeke would somehow be seen by Jake, thereby ruining their chances at sainthood.

I thought it was the WFT brigade that had delusions about Jake reading their board? Are the babblers as stupid as that too? Maybe there is something about Jake that attracts the sad and mentally unbalanced to his fandom. I blame Donnie Darko, because the message you seem to have gotten from that film is that listening to the voices in your head is a GOOD thing.

Anonymous said...

It's also Lola from "Canada", not only QB spilling their venom here.

Anonymous said...

From 5:07 - "So, once again, name another male actor in Hollywood who satisfies ALL of my criteria."

"5:07 basically ignored the points in 5:02, #1's post."

5:52 - Until 5:07's concerns are answered in full, 5:07 has a point. Name another actor who satisfies all of the criteria, and then you can lecture us about how normal Jake's career problems are. until then, you're just enabling Jake's mediocrity and Reeke's ineffectiveness.

Anonymous said...

Lola = bubba

Anonymous said...

Lola has had alot of lousy sex. she's very bitter about this.

Anonymous said...

"When are you going to post something even remotely lol-worthy?"

One Tree Hill has been renewed for another season.

Anonymous said...

Lola is also obsessive about cleanliness and never uses public toilets.

Anonymous said...

Thanks 6:46 PM, I hope Austin will be back too.

Anonymous said...

UV
FL/felicia
Queen Beruthiel
Logoddess/Barbara
Lola/bubba

= Babblers
= majority posting in DC eyelashes
= all bitter boring old women

Anonymous said...

If some of them ^^^ visit OMG and WFT2 then they must like JiG posts and trashing Reese. That's a good sign!

Anonymous said...

"UV
FL/felicia
Queen Beruthiel
Logoddess/Barbara
Lola/bubba"

^^^ far from HW, prob never been to Cali/LA, wouldn't know what to do with Jake if he fell in their laps (as if, LOL) but they're experts on him, Reese and HW. yeah riiiight.

Anonymous said...

It's sad that some of you have to believe that you're under some kind of attack from "trolls' and "Babblers" just because people post opinions that don't agree with yours. Don't you have any faith in what you believe?

Or is it possible that some of you are just as shaky in your beliefs as you claim the Babblers are. you have to attack to keep your own doubts at bay.

My beliefs. Jake is bi. He is in a fake relationship with Reese. I am not sure if he is with Austin, but if he is, that relationship is just as pathetic as Reeke.

Jake will eventually tire of both of them.

Since I could never have Heath, I would love to see him with Clooney or an equally suitable woman.

There is no Baby Tile.

Anonymous said...

Or is it possible that some of you are just as shaky in your beliefs as you claim the Babblers are.

Huh? Do we post on DCF or GB?

Anonymous said...

^^Could you really have any respect for an actor who would beard to get ahead in HW, thinks he can sail through his faux pas with a wink and a smile, and not stand up for a colleague in what will most likely be his most memorable film, supposed friend who made him godfather of his only child in an entire year, and probably not ever?

Anonymous said...

Could openly gay Jake expect the same treatment and career opportunities as his straight and closeted colleagues?

Anonymous said...

Having a different opinion doesn't get you called a troll or babbler, it's being nasty on top of that. For example, rather than just expressing an interest in seeing Jake with someone else, one of the recent posters keeps slagging on Austin, and on top of it implying or outright telling us we're all dumb to like Austin. Troll tactic # 5.

Anonymous said...

7:10, how was Jake supposed to stand up for Heath in TDK? Just how many interviews has Jake given in the past year? What major press has he done where the subject of Heath would have come up? Were you expecting him to hold a press conference?

Just what does "standing up" mean?
If you are actually talking about him making some statement regarding Heath's death, then I hope he never says anything. That's his personal grief to handle as he sees fit.

As for the bearding, if Jake is Bi, then the relationship could be real.

Lots of people beard. If it bothers you that much, you better stop paying attention to these actors' lives and put that energy to more productive use.

Anonymous said...

7:10, how was Jake supposed to stand up for Heath in TDK? Just how many interviews has Jake given in the past year? What major press has he done where the subject of Heath would have come up? Were you expecting him to hold a press conference?

Just what does "standing up" mean?
If you are actually talking about him making some statement regarding Heath's death, then I hope he never says anything. That's his personal grief to handle as he sees fit.

As for the bearding, if Jake is Bi, then the relationship could be real.

Lots of people beard. If it bothers you that much, you better stop paying attention to these actors' lives and put that energy to more productive use.

Anonymous said...

Maybe he could have attended the Oscar award ceremony itself, instead of just the parties? And I don't need you to tell me how to put my time to productive use, I'll do as I see fit.

Anonymous said...

If some of them ^^^ visit OMG and WFT2

FL and UV say on Babble they NEVER go to those awful sites with all the haters who bash Jake every day. Uh huh right. *rolls eyes* You fucking know they still do, just more careful not to leave their blogger name LOL.

Earlier someone said about Logoddest, her post on DC how she was being sarcastic about how people said Jake looked unhappy at VF. How would she know, she swears she only reads DC and Babble!

Anonymous said...

As for the bearding, if Jake is Bi, then the relationship could be real.

I bet you don't believe in that "BI & Reeke is real" option.

Anonymous said...

Just what does "standing up" mean?
If you are actually talking about him making some statement regarding Heath's death, then I hope he never says anything. That's his personal grief to handle as he sees fit.


No, I wasn't talking about his making a statement about Heath's death. I was talking about being happy for him that he won his Oscar. I don't think Jake is mature enough to handle grief.

Anonymous said...

Nothing Jake does is private lately, so I find the concept of his "private grief" a little doubtful.

Anonymous said...

Earlier someone said about Logoddest, her post on DC how she was being sarcastic about how people said Jake looked unhappy at VF. How would she know, she swears she only reads DC and Babble!

Really? I thought she was one of the Babble hardliners!

Anonymous said...

Why are all the OMGers trolling this board under anon names trying to keep the Austin love alive? Why can't you contain yourself to your own blog? This blog is for us venom-spewing Reeke haters. Now go away.

Anonymous said...

Hi Lola. Your crack is showing.;)

Anonymous said...

Aww, don't be like that 7:29 PM, we all love Austin.

All together now!

Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya
Oh lord, kumbaya!

Anonymous said...

Logoddest = Barbara, Babble supporter and brownnoser

Anonymous said...

"Why are all the OMGers trolling this board under anon names"

Everyones under anon names. Or don't you wnt to use your Queen beruthial blogger id?

Anonymous said...

Lainey says Reese is pregnant (again!) - and that Reeke believes in being "traditional"; that is, marriage before babies. If she's already pregnant, I don't see the logic here. The Babblers are always raving about what a feminist Reese is, isn't this how she snagged her first husband? Setting back the course of feminism about 50 years. It's a good thing Lainey's credibility is rock-bottom after all of her talk of award acceptances! That awful prom dress she wore to the Oscars disguise that unfortunate middle she has. Jake looked like her prom date. ;)

Anonymous said...

Jake looked like she took her younger brother to the prom.

Anonymous said...

"Reeke believes in being "traditional"" part of the Lainey's crap = "Jake was overheard saying that he and Reese were both “traditional that way” prompting many to assume that he meant marriage before babies".

Lainey's Reeke fiction is as bad as tabloid junk.

Anonymous said...

Laniey didn't say that Reese is pregnant.

7:25, what makes you think Jake wasn't happy that Heath won? Did he tell you this? And just how does one handle grief? Please tell, I didn't get the book.

Another grief nazi.

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Anonymous said...

7:49, please, I know its heresy to say anything negative against your precious idol.

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prairiegirl said...

Man, 19:29, that's not necessary. For gosh sakes, we're all on the same side, are we not? How unfriendly is that?

Actually, I would beg to differ about Austin being a nobody as professed by 13:57 and you yourself just helped my case. Just the fact that he's mentioned in comments seems to suggest that he's been noticed. Used to be that no one ever mentioned the guy except on OMG. Seems to me, maybe he's made somewhat of a name for himself if he's worthy of even being mentioned in a comment.

Seems like a low blow to criticize someone just because they do a TV series. Work is work. Doesn't matter if you're a fry cook, a movie theatre usher, a lawyer, a surgeon, a minister, a grocery sacker, or a street crossing guard. Everyone serves a niche in this world. And that applies to makeup artists, wardrobe people, actors, directors, personal assistants, camerapeople, gameshow hosts, and lunch wagon drivers as well. There is no shame for anyone who gets up everyday and punches in to do their 8+ hours of work and puts forth an honest effort.

Lest we also forget those people in the U.S. who have been laid off, told to retire early, let go, or lost their job due to their place of employement going under. Those who were working and want to be working, but there are not enough open jobs to go around for them right now.

Sorry for the rant, but that kind of comment that someone is a "nobody" is just plain callous and not thought through before being spoken.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, PG.

Anonymous said...

Seems like a low blow to criticize someone just because they do a TV series. Work is work.

Why do you always come here acting so holier than thou PG? If you really mean what you just said, I expect you never to criticise another film that Reese or Jake makes, or that would make you a gigantic hypocrite. I'll be sure to quote this line back at you when you do.

Anonymous said...

8:34 PM, I think you missed the point.

Anonymous said...

No, I got the point, but you can't say "Work is work, stop being mean" and then bitch and moan about the work other people do. If PG's point is valid then it applies to everyone, not just Austin.

Anonymous said...

Criticizing a film is different, it's a matter of personal taste, not attacking someone's character.

prairiegirl said...

Criticizing a movie is different from calling somebody a nobody.
And I'm not saying One Tree Hill is a masterpiece either.

Heck, I can't even follow the storylines. I just watch to see Austin, who happens to have become quite the hot guy as far as my tastes are concerned.

I'm not saying you or anyone has to like Austin, either. To each his or her own taste.

And it is not my intention to come on here with a holier than thou attitude. Heck, I'm probably one of the biggest sinners here, lol.

But I just wonder why the extraordinarily hostile attitude toward Austin? There's something to that, I'm just not sure what.

I expected a quick rebuttal, anyways. Doesn't hurt my feelings at all. You go right on ahead & throw one of my comments right back at me. Hey. 4 Christmas's looks like it wasn't a good movie at all.
There. Now throw it right back at me. It'll be like water off a duck's back.

Anonymous said...

Austin Nichols is a C-list actor on a D-list show. That is what makes him a nobody in Hollywood. This has nothing to do with his character. And in Hollywood, tv work is still considered beneath film work( even in tv, there are levels of programming and a show like OTH would be considered bottom of the barrel). That is why you will see people trying to get away from television and into film.

Austin went from starring on his own show on HBO to becoming just another cast member on a bottom feeder like OTH. His status may change, but I see nothing to indicate that it will happen anytime soon.

So, Austin's a nobody with a somebody for a boyfriend (which I guess would explain why he hangs on).

Anonymous said...

Who knows - Jake may be doing a TV series sooner than we think! ;)

Anonymous said...

And Reese - WTL to 4Cs to voiceovers - maybe the downward spiral looming! ;)

Anonymous said...

Anyone remember Falconer? He's a big movie star now!

prairiegirl said...

Dangit, another double post.

I think I hear what you're saying,
20:50. But if I criticize a movie, I'm not criticizing the fact that the person is working. I'm criticizing the movie itself. There's a difference.

And what is this "Why are you always coming here"? I bet I've posted on here 10-12 times and that's just in the past couple of months. I've only started blogging in the past year and only on OMG or LJ until I got up the nerve to get on here. Truth is, I respect alot of the people here because of their sharp & quick wits and unflappability. I've always admired it and knew I could never keep up. And you can rest assured. My home is OMG but I would like to feel that it's still okay to insert an opinion here & there on WFT2. After all, you're just as welcome over on OMG.

You know, Jake's fans are getting fewer and far between. Let alone active blogsites for him. OMG and WFT2 are unique because of what they believe. It seems to me it doesn't serve us well or say much for us if we turn on each other. Don't you know that PR likes nothing better than to see innercircle squabbling?

And now just having read your last post, I'll let it rest. It would've helped if you would've said that in the original post instead it sounded like you were attacking his personal character. Like Jake was too good for him.
It still sounds to me like there's some kind of personal account against Austin but it's not for me to criticize. You're entitled to that opinion and I mine.

Nice to chat with you and no hard feelings.
See you all.

prairiegirl said...

Oops - correction. Not in the past year. Time gets away. Started blogging last April.

Anonymous said...

PG, some of us will not wear blinders, or make excuses, where Austin is concerned. He's no more sacred than Jake or Reese.

He is an enabler to the bearding. Neither he nor Reese have anything to offer Jake.

As far as I am concerned, the sooner Jake gets rid of both of them, the better. He needs to find someone who can challenge and inspire him.

I wish George was available.

Anonymous said...

"Don't you know that PR likes nothing better than to see innercircle squabbling?"

You poor, deluded fangirl.

Anonymous said...

Heath might have inspired him. :(

Anonymous said...

You just contradicted yourself 9:37. You want to blame Austin for going along withe the bearding, but then say Jake would somehow change overnight if he was rid of Austin. Seems to me it's Austin that would be better off without Jake, by your reasoning. And you are really delusional if you think Jake would stop the bearding if Austin wasn't around. Look at Ted's latest Blind Vice. I think if Austin wasn't around Jake would be marching down the aisle with Reese, just the way Hayden is now engaged now that he's dumped his boyfriend.

Anonymous said...

Relationships are not happily ever after fairy tales, there are no guarantees. All you can do if they don't is be a good parent to your children. It can't be helped if a relationship doesn't work out. Look at Reese and Ryan. And you are forgetting TDK, quite a few people saw that. Heath was more of an artist, and indpendent of HW.

Anonymous said...

9:52, Heath won the Oscar--which Jake (judging by the shit he's doing) will never win. Jake will NEVER be a third of the actor Heath was. NEVER. Heath has an Oscar. Jake doesn't. Jake can only get near Oscar by fucking Oscar winners.

I'm Not There was a better film that piece of shit Rendition. It got great reviews and was very entertaining. Rendition was horrible--Peter S was the only good thing about. Jake was wretched and Reese beyond bad. (Michelle Williams would have been good in that part).

Anonymous said...

"Could openly gay Jake expect the same treatment and career opportunities as his straight and closeted colleagues?"

Absolutely not.

prairiegirl said...

Okay, I'm not done.

For cryin' out loud, I'm not saying Austin is a saint! And I for one have been one of the biggest comedowners on Jake these past 4 months or so, have you not seen my comments on OMG?! Have you not seen Rattler point his tail at me & others for "criticizing" Jake at all?

I HATE the bearding! I don't like either that Austin puts up with it. Who would do that? I certainly wouldn't. And I don't have blinders on. And I'm not a fangirl. If I'm deluded, then so be it, I guess. I've been called alot worse and being deluded won't be my ticket into Hell.

And what makes you think that if Jake & George Clooney hooked up, that it wouldn't be underwraps? You think they'd both come out of the closet so that they could be together? I don't think Jake is as saintly as you seem to believe he is. Sure it sounds like he was talked into going into the closet, but right now? I think he's rather enjoying the bearding. And that is what hacks me off.

Okay. Still no hard feelings. I just was not going to take being called a fangirl sitting down.

Anonymous said...

The DC asshole who's in here trashing Heath-Heath was in a movie that just hit the billion mark and is the second highest grossing movie in history. I doubt the fruity POP-which I'm sure will pull in some people because it's a summer tentpole will have that type of seismic impact--although I'm sure Jake's performance will go down in camp history.

Anonymous said...

I own I'm Not There, and I thought it was great.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Heath broke anything off. And perhaps if he had friends who cared about him instead of hangers on, he wouldn't have been tumbling out of bars, and I don't know that he was anyway. All I know that someone as beautiful, talented and famous should have had bloody somebody there with him.

Anonymous said...

Age is negligible - a couple of years. And I'm willing to bet that will be the one and only nom he gets - he's catering to much to mainstream tastes now, those never get nominated.

Anonymous said...

Lightning doesn't usually strike twice - you won't find that combination of talent like there was in Brokeback very often. Heath was also nominated for Best Actor. I liked Zodiac and Rendition, but his roles in those were a far cry from Jack Twist. I did think he was great in Moonlight Mile, and I'm not a huge Darko fan.

Anonymous said...

"Age is negligible - a couple of years. And I'm willing to bet that will be the one and only nom he gets - he's catering to much to mainstream tastes now, those never get nominated."

Heath won an Academy Award for playing the Joker in a Batman film! Could your post be any more stupidly ironic? It only has two sentences and yet each one of them is packed full of dumb. Good going anonymous!

Anonymous said...

This Batman film was a cut above, as we all know. Not just your ordinary Batman film.

Anonymous said...

He will always be connected to Jake.

Anonymous said...

It's so funny how opinions change. Go back a few years and all the posters on WFT were talking Heath down, moaning about how his performance in Brokeback Mountain was just a reprise of his work in Monsters Ball, that it was stilted and somewhat dull and that it was Jake who had done the better work in that film, and that Heath was playing Hollywood by distancing himself from the film and quickly getting a wife and daughter whilst Jake was out at gay functions supporting the wider message of the film. Funny how opinions on people's work can change when you don't like who they're being seen with.

Anonymous said...

"Nobody cares what you do or think."

Then scroll on by and don't bother to project your fangirlish delusions on me.

Anonymous said...

I don't recall any of that. And I think Jake has changed, not just who he's seen with lately.

Anonymous said...

I think it's you who comes here uninvited to project your delusions, we're not going to you. I'll say what I want, if you don't like it, scroll on by yourself, or don't come to this blog.

Anonymous said...

We like to laugh at your inane commentary as well - so suit yourself. But rest assured you'll get it back in spades, so I hope you have the energy for it.

Anonymous said...

I personally always respected Heath as an actor. And I was thankful that thanks to his and Jake's performance, but mostly Heath's, the movie got so much attention.

Btw, Heath never was married and the kid wasn't planned, at least not on his part. He supposedly split from Naomi Watts because he wasn't ready for kids. Just FYI.

Anonymous said...

You need to take the blinders off when it comes to Heath. He was a man, not a god, and he had plenty of faults. This was man who was hanging out with an Olsen twin. And Heath probably wouldn't have even won an Oscar for Batman if he was still alive.

Anonymous said...

Well, that we'll never know. But he was a better actor than Jake, I think that is fairly widely accepted.

Anonymous said...

I'm not scrolling past any comments. Like I said, I'm here to laugh at the fangirls. I have no delusions; I'm not the one crying because the actor who doesn't know I exist might be bearding with the actress who doesn't know I exist whilst hiding a baby who doesn't exist.

Anonymous said...

^^I agree, Heath wasn't a god or w/o fault, but he's dead now. What do you want? Should we just mention his faults?

Yes, maybe he wouldn't have won the Oscar, but I think he would have been nominated still, there was buzz even when he was still alive after the first trailer and 6minutes preview in IMAX came out.
But even if he would not have won if he were alive, he would still have deserved to win IMO.

Anonymous said...

Heath created two iconic roles in Brokeback Moutain and TDK. The fact that he could do this with such vastly different characters attests to his brilliance as an actor.

Yes he would have been a great inspiration to Jake in terms of how to take control of your career and make your own way.

Of course Heath was wild; artist often are. He was also a very creative man with a vast array of interests. It is also apparant that whatever his personal problems he had gotten those under control when he died. That's just one of the reasons it was so tragic.

Thousands of people die every year from accidental mixes of presciption drugs. We don't always realise how long a drug actually stays in your system. Heath didn't take those drugs at the same time. But they lingered in his system and the eventual combination stopped his heart.

Anonymous said...

^^Beautifully said.

Anonymous said...

Wake me up when people stop talking about god.

prairiegirl said...

22:12, you've got to be kidding me.
For one thing, you are making two contradicting statements. On one hand, you are accusing me of being a fangirl or Babbler, which is absolutely hysterical to say the least. And yet, on the other hand, you're criticizing me for criticizing Reese. What the heck? Which is it? Am I a babbler or a Toothybeliever? Which are you? And don't say neither, if you're on this blog, you're one or the other. There's no inbetween. If you were inbetween, you wouldn't be on here getting all passionate & bolding your alleged description of myself. You'd just be lurking and curling your lip into a smile.

This really beats all. I think I've seen everything. Me. A Babbler. snicker. You have no idea. I've got to take that one home with me.

22:31, ah, I see you've lurked over at homebase. Yeah, I'm running out of steam, tho. Long past the ol' bedtime. 4:45 comes pretty early.

I've got nothing else to add. 22:12just about split my gut with that half cracked call, anyway.

And 22:12, it's so easy to hide behind Anon when you make blunt statements like that, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

I hope that Jake hasn't given up being an artist for churning out crap on a yearly basis. That's all I hope. But I am a Brokeback fan anyway. :)

Anonymous said...

10:26 is right. The types of comments mentioned were a regular type of post on WFT #1. Everyone was in love with Jake then.

So people do have short memories. I doubt Jake has changed. People didn't know him then; they don't know him now, and they won't know him later. But we all like to project. And we will find (or create) the evidence we need to support whatever belief we have (and discard whatever may contradict it).

10:41, I second everything you said about Heath.

Anonymous said...

PG, that comment at 22:12 wasn't directed at you.

Anonymous said...

^^sorry, I meant the comment at 22:31 wasn't directed at you, PG. I don't know about 22:12. :)

Anonymous said...

10:54, he's no longer as open as he once was. That has changed.

Anonymous said...

I think it's pretty obvious we don't now and never will know him, but his persona has changed.

Anonymous said...

Public persona, how he chooses to present himself to the public. Not too bright, are you, 10:54.

Anonymous said...

PG you're ok. This poster going on and on doesn't have any topic or point except wanting to criticize, criticize anything, get peoples hackles up. What a sad state to be in. The writing is very reminiscent of a Queen Beruthial FL/felicia type, on that alone I would disregard anything they have to spew.

Anonymous said...

Or maybe Jake just grew up?
I think he's a solid actor. But I think he's one of the actors who wants to become a super star. He likes high profile girlfriends and attention. That's how he strikes me. Nothing wrong with it. Most actors in Hollywood are like that.

Anonymous said...

Possibly. And if people don't like it, they can move on to other things.

prairiegirl said...

^^sorry, I meant the comment at 22:31 wasn't directed at you, PG. I don't know about 22:12. :)


Lol! Okay, it's just funny because I had just said on OMG that you guys do let me make my inane comments over here.

I know 22:12 was. That's okay, tho. I can take it tonight. Heck, I got an excellent reading on my blood pressure today at the doctor's. 106 over 65. Unbelievable. So they can rant at me all they want; the bp can take it, lol. But just don't call me a fangirl! I'll have to get tough and defend my territory.

I'm toast. Thanks for putting up with me and I'll leave y'all alone now. Now if we could figure out what has got the scoffer (s) all wound up, we'd be geniuses.

Anonymous said...

Purely coincidence PG! Glad to hear about your PB, PG. Good nite. We're not good soldiers, following that party line 100%. :)

Anonymous said...

"On one hand, you are accusing me of being a fangirl or Babbler, which is absolutely hysterical to say the least. And yet, on the other hand, you're criticizing me for criticizing Reese. What the heck? Which is it? Am I a babbler or a Toothybeliever?"

You're a Toothybeliever, which is a type of fangirl, just as Babblers are a type of fangirl. How is that difficult to understand? And I'm neither, I'm just someone who likes to laugh at fangirls. And the fact that you stupidly think that calling you a fangirl is the same as calling you a babbler makes you even more amusing to me. Hope your guts feel better now that I've dumbed things down enough for you to understand.

Anonymous said...

I give you points for being able to discern a Babbler from a TB, and a troll. We don't see that too often around here. I'm more of a TT/BabyT agnostic myself.

Anonymous said...

"The writing is very reminiscent of a Queen Beruthial FL/felicia type, on that alone I would disregard anything they have to spew."


And that person sounds like the person who says that Baby Tile is fake, and that person sounds like the person who says that Austin and Jake broke up, and that person sounds like the person who said Jake was with Chris...

Oh my Goddess, there aren't lots of people with different opinions, there's just ONE person who disagrees with everything! Mystery solved, no need to debate them anymore, let's all just ignore them and drool over Jake and Austin and knit mittens for Baby T!


That anon nailed it. So funny, and so true.

Anonymous said...

Seems like a low blow to criticize someone just because they do a TV series. Work is work.

Why do you always come here acting so holier than thou PG? If you really mean what you just said, I expect you never to criticise another film that Reese or Jake makes, or that would make you a gigantic hypocrite. I'll be sure to quote this line back at you when you do.

^^ Well Said. ^^

8:34 PM, I think you missed the point.

No. 8:34pm is right and did not miss any point.
PG presents this good guy image but wavers quite often as not to ruffle the feathers of the Jake/Austin love affair = babytile fanatic / gurus and then picks and takes stabs at Jake, his choices, and career whenever the wind blows, but now Austin is off limits. Get real. Reminds me of the school girl who wants to be liked and hang with the in crowd..

Anonymous said...

^^ OMG she's still talking. LOL

Anonymous said...

9:52, Heath won the Oscar--which Jake (judging by the shit he's doing) will never win. Jake will NEVER be a third of the actor Heath was. NEVER. Heath has an Oscar. Jake doesn't. Jake can only get near Oscar by fucking Oscar winners.

I'm Not There was a better film that piece of shit Rendition. It got great reviews and was very entertaining. Rendition was horrible--Peter S was the only good thing about. Jake was wretched and Reese beyond bad. (Michelle Williams would have been good in that part).

^^ You are really CHILDISH. PLEASE GROW UP and Stop with this grade school Attitude because Jake has not come out. If Jake came out today you would forget all the insane jibberish you post daily.

Suggestion: Take Jake's pictures off your wall and be done with him already, fair enough?

Anonymous said...

Well the post bashing Heath wasn't mature either. If you don't like him, stop mention him. It's a Jake blog after all.

Anonymous said...

It's so funny how opinions change. Go back a few years and all the posters on WFT were talking Heath down, moaning about how his performance in Brokeback Mountain was just a reprise of his work in Monsters Ball, that it was stilted and somewhat dull and that it was Jake who had done the better work in that film, and that Heath was playing Hollywood by distancing himself from the film and quickly getting a wife and daughter whilst Jake was out at gay functions supporting the wider message of the film. Funny how opinions on people's work can change when you don't like who they're being seen with.

^^ So True. I remember. But the fanbois here don't and they are mad at Jake because he has not come out as fortold. They are upset at him so now he can't act, he's ugly, and his career is now over. And the newer posters have followed right behind the upset fanboys. Anger is the cause of the change. nothing more, nothing less.

Anonymous said...

(And Heath probably wouldn't have even won an Oscar for Batman if he was still alive.)

I am sorry and sad to say I BELIEVE THIS ALSO.

Anonymous said...

Toothybelievers are not atype of fangirl. Just STFU if you can't make a logical comment.

"He is an enabler to the bearding. Neither he nor Reese have anything to offer Jake."

OK 9.37 PM, How the hell do you know what Jake needs or what Austin & Reese have to offer him?
Let's have a straight answer, right?

Anonymous said...

If this is true and all the changed opinions are because of the disappointment Jake didn't come out (if he's gay), it's even worse dragging Heath into all this. It's tastless.

My opinion is that Heath was one of the most talented actors of his generation. Jake is good too and maybe can become one of the best of his generation too. He's still young and can become better and better.

Heath doesn't need WFT2 posters to say he was a great actor, most people I know think so and the praise he got from his peers make me think they thought so too.

Anonymous said...

Jake Gyllenhaal is one of the most over rated actors in HW. People say that he's only 28, but considering the age he first started in films, the family he comes from the number of respected Directors he has worked with not to mention the well known co stars, his career is shit.

Anonymous said...

(And Heath probably wouldn't have even won an Oscar for Batman if he was still alive.)

I am sorry and sad to say I BELIEVE THIS ALSO.


And who do you think would have won?

Jealous Jake fans are pathetic. Hiding here and bashing deceased Heath Ledger. Sad.

Anonymous said...

Heath is a fantastic actor. You cannot compare Jake to him. Posters here talk crap most of the time even tho' sometimes they are really smart and funny.

Anonymous said...

(Heath doesn't need WFT2 posters to say he was a great actor, most people I know think so and the praise he got from his peers make me think they thought so too.)

You are right, No Heath did not need a mention from WFT1 or 2 to mention him. But again, it's amunition for the " I hate Jake becaue he's bearding and has not come out crowd" Noting more, nothing less. Heath is used here for amunition against Jake.

Anonymous said...

How the hell can anyone say that Heath would not have won if he was alive? Jeez, some here seem to have enormous crystal balls or what?!

Anonymous said...

Oh, and Heath didn't come from a HW family either. He made it all on his own. No blond beards more famous than him to help! Heh!

Anonymous said...

Heath is used here for amunition against Jake.

Ain't that nice? (sarcasm)

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