KNOCK, KNOCK. WHO'S THERE? THE CLOSET. YOU'RE STILL AROUND? YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT!
There's been a great deal of discussion on the site [After Elton] over the past couple of weeks about gay celebrities, the closet and what constitutes being "out." And even though we've discussed the issue numerous times before, it seems like it is once again time to revisit the topic. And it's a subject that is as tricky as ever and that can have real consequences for the celebrities involved.
Perez kicked the latest round of debate off when he posted an item about White Collar's Matthew Bomer. Without citing a source or saying how he knew, Perez simply claimed Matt was an out gay man. If true, we were certainly interested in writing about Matt and his show, but as we aren't a gossip site, I wasn't going to simply repeat Perez's claims — for lots of reasons.
But I did call up Matthew's publicist and request an interview if, in fact, Perez's information was correct. Through his publicist, Matthew passed on doing the interview and the publicist told me they don't comment on their client's personal lives. And that post set off a heated discussion about outing, the closet and all the other related issues.
The issue of the closet is something we deal with at AfterElton.com a lot and we are constantly evaluating how we cover celebrities that may or may not be gay. First and foremost, we do not out people. It's our firm belief that despite the undeniably greater gay acceptance in society today, coming out still has serious ramifications for many people and is a decision to be made only by the individual in question (excluding closeted politician's, but that's another conversation for another site).
That being said, we also don't believe there is anything wrong with treating everyone the same and the questions asked of a straight celebrity are perfectly fine to ask of a gay celebrity when appropriate. Are you married? Single? What was your childhood like? How does being straight influence the way you play a gay character? Does your husband get jealous when you kiss another man? And so forth.
Here are some general observations and thoughts about where we stand today.
1) For our readers: Just because "everyone" in West Hollywood or New York "knows" Celebrity X is gay because you've seen him around town with another guy does not make it true or mean that the person is out publicly. First of all, New York and Los Angeles are not the entire world and secondly, being seen out in public with another man is not being out in any practical way.
2) For gay celebrities: Just because your family and friends know you are gay does not make you publicly out.
3) For representatives of gay celebrities: If your client is gay and your response is "no comment" because "we don't ever comment on our client's personal lives" all I have to say is "Poppycock." I may understand why you are hiding the info, but I'm not an idiot and neither are our readers. If your client discusses raising funds for Alzheimer's because their dad had it or working to fight testicular cancer because they have it or anything else not specifically about a particular role, then they do discuss their private lives.
4) There are legal issues involved. Like it or not, claiming a person is gay still has legal ramifications and you can be sued for defamation in almost half of the states in the U.S. Yes, the celebrity has to prove you are wrong, but the fact of the matter is not every celebrity rumored to be gay is gay, and I'm not about to risk my job on Perez Hilton's say so.
BTW, publicists? Please don't tell me information "off the record" and then hint you don't care what I say as long as it's without any attribution at all. Again, that could end with your client suing me and I don't traffic in gossip. Thanks, but no thanks.
5) Dear fellow journalists, please don't treat gay celebrities differently than straight ones. If you regularly ask straight actors about their spouses, children and how they personally relate to playing an ad executive from the 1950s, a starship captain or a serial killer, but avoid similar questions with those you suspect to be gay, you aren't doing your job. And given how quick you usually are to ask officially out actors about the same things you do straight ones, you know I'm right.
I can honestly say that after the success of Neil Patrick Harris has had after coming out publicly (apparently everyone in New York knew he was gay all along) I really thought things would be different and more actors would follow the Luke Macfarlane model and simply acknowledge the fact of their sexuality and move on. But I can tell you from personal experience that we still aren't there no matter how much I'd like us to be.
Which isn't to say I don't understand and appreciate the issues gay celebrities face. But the only reason things ever get better is because some people have the courage to care enough to make things better for all of us.
Source: Best. Gay. Week. Ever. (November 06, 2009), After Elton
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^^^^
I have another theory. Maybe Jake is rebuilding his fan base, so that's why he is showing himself in places he wouldn't attend normaly. Is like he is "starting over".
I don't think he is so scared about saying a couple of dumb things about the beard, he is an actor and he wants to be a major star. If he can't handle a few questions about his private life then I don't know how he thinks he is going to make it big in Hollywood.
Two years of a hot romance with Reese Witherspoon, acting like a stepdaddy and perhaps an impending marriage?! C'mon there's no way Letterman or Conan can't mention it, ask about Reese, refer to the relationship, joke about it or use it as a topic. IMO they got a gag order when he was on 2 years ago, and this time they aren't putting up with that shit.
It'll be interesting to see what he and JK talk about.
PS Before I get criticized about the "hot romance" part - YES I know he's bearding. I was referring to how the public sees Reeke.
RW shopping
She seems to be shopping 24/7.
"Reeke is old and boring news, I don't think anyone would insist on Reeke questions."
I disagree. The TV public loves to hear about romances and with all the proposal/wedding rumors surrounding Reeke, hell yeah they want details.
Maybe Jake is rebuilding his fan base
Jimmy Kimmel public is wrong for a movie like Brothers.
RW shopping
^^
I would have thought that celebrities and other millionaires have personal shoppers. I'd never imagined that they just go out with thie wallets to do the shoppings.
Maybe this is just another of Chin's photo-ops. She looks kinda good in this pics, and by good I mean not entirely vomiting. That's a lot to say about her...
"Maybe Jake is rebuilding his fan base, so that's why he is showing himself in places he wouldn't attend normaly."
That doesn't make sense. People know who he is. And if he wanted more/new fans why would he go on a show that gets low ratings?
The TV public loves to hear about romances and with all the proposal/wedding rumors surrounding Reeke, hell yeah they want details.
No one cared about latest "marriage by the end of the year" fiction.
with all the proposal/wedding rumors surrounding Reeke, hell yeah they want details
Details about what?
C'mon there's no way Letterman or Conan can't mention it, ask about Reese, refer to the relationship, joke about it or use it as a topic.
Reeke is old news, no engagement, no drama, nothing interesting.
"I have another theory..."
Work on it until it makes sense.
"And if he wanted more/new fans why would he go on a show that gets low ratings?"
maybe he wants to start from the bottom...
And talking about soemthing else, I wonder why the fake wedding story never got to the magz and blogs. I didn't hear or read anything about it besides on this site...
If PR planted that nonsense to taste waters about the fauxmance then I don't even want to imagine their awfull disappointment!!! :(
I wonder why the fake wedding story never got to the magz and blogs
That was Reeke wedding bullshit story #5 and no one gives a shit in the first place.
I guess no one wants to hear the Gyllenbabble and go huh?? at the end of his interview!
oh,no.. My theory was ripped to pieces!
You people can be cruel sometimes
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Awwwww (((((6:07 PM)))))
Aspiring A lister looks for A list marketing, and that includes only the best and most popular talk shows :)
"She looks kinda good in this pics"
Blech. WTF is that belt on the outside of a sweater. WTF is that spot stain on the sweater's upper left side. And WTF are those colors. A pink/rose sweater with gray/blue top, dark brown belt, taupe suede boots and dark blue jeans?!
"I wonder why the fake wedding story never got to the magz and blogs."
It did on blogs and websites. And for the posters here who say Reeke is old and no one cares to hear about it.....bullshit.
It did on blogs and websites.
Few unimportant blogs/websites.
People do like to hear celebrities talk about their private life, but there is nothing intriguing or particularly interesting about Reeke.
IMO Reese has really painted Jake into a corner. Portraying her rebound guy and escort after her divorce so she could seem relevant was easy because he got the side benefit of being perceived as straight. But after her proclamations of "Reese Loves Jake" and verbally positioning him as a bf in interviews and behaving like he's her other half, it's become a lot more complicated for him.
IMO he does NOT want to lie about it but for now he has to go along with the image Monster Reese created until he can figure out a solution. That's why he's avoiding interviews, so he doesn't have to lie. IF there's a BT, it could be that BT is the reason he doesn't want to lie; for his own self-respect right now and for BT's respect of him down the line.
I don't see how Jake can avoid lying about Reeke in a long run - after all that reeking and "I'm so straight" public image bullshit it would be very strange to refuse to answer Reeke questions.
"People do like to hear celebrities talk about their private life, but there is nothing intriguing or particularly interesting about Reeke."
It's not like Jake has to spill a story or a secret about Reeke. Sheesh. But after 2 years you'd think a talk show host could and would say "So I heard you and your gf Reese went to Italy. How is the food there?" or something like that. IMO IF JK brings up Reese/gf/coupledom to Jake his answer will be cagey and vague. I honestly think he is avoiding being faced with anything even slightly Reeke-related in interviews.
You people can be cruel sometimes
Sorry!
Awww
I honestly think he is avoiding being faced with anything even slightly Reeke-related in interviews.
He should! Jake should use this time to promote himself and his movies, and he doesn't need the beard for that.
"You people can be cruel sometimes
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Waah, want me to go get mommy for you?
He should! Jake should use this time to promote himself and his movies, and he doesn't need the beard for that.
So you think he should never ever bring up Reese or confirm/deny a romantic relationship (i.e. bearding)? You aren't the least bit curious as to his part in the charade other than showing up and holding hands for photo ops?
it would be very strange to refuse to answer Reeke questions.
ITA. IMO he either has to lie or say nothing. And let's face it; saying nothing and avoiding any references remotely related to being a couple, will practically be confirmation that all he is, is Reese's imaginary bf.
How is it for a group of people who know how Hollywood works, who know how bearding works, who know how PR works, don't know the first thing about how chat shows work?
He doesn't want to lie? He lies all the time. JK is "hip" Jake is trying to be hip and did you all catch Reese on Conan? He could not have kissed her ass any more than he did. The talk shows just want to keep these a listers happy. Only Letterman would dare piss one of them off and only if he truly has a personal issue with them.
8:06pm, ITA. The only reason a celeb goes on a talk show is to promote something. So why would the show's host want to piss off celebs? If enough celebs get pissed off they won't go on that show and that host is unemployed then. I also do agree with the previous posters, Jake won't mention anything about Reese. He will tell some funny stories about peacocks (next movie coming out), filming prison scenes (current movie promo) and something about him that makes him look like an adorable dork. That's pretty much every Jake interview. Besides, Jake being in LA on 12/3 means he will probably go to LA for Thanksgiving and stay there. That means that we'll be treated to a long weekend of Reeke. After Reese's InStyle comments about Ojai, guarenteed we'll get the dynamic duo out holding hands that weekend shopping at the Ojai Farmer's Market.
She'll have the kids for Tgiving this year because Ryan and Abbie had them last year and got their picture in US Weekly in the airport.
"So why would the show's host want to piss off celebs?"
Maybe that's why Jake isn't going on Conan and Letterman. So they won't piss him off by mentioning anything Reeke/Reese related.
If Reeke has been a "couple" for 2 or 3 years why shouldn't Reese's name get brought up in the convo. How do you guys not know how people chat on talk shows?! Real couples mention each other even in passing i.e. "my wife told me" "my husband noticed that...." "my gf said" They also name the other partner like "Bob and I went to...." Chris and I were at.." Sure the appearance is to promote something but there's always a personal side too. Reese has talked about Jake, on Ellen about them celebrating her birthday and in magazines when she was doing movie publicity and hawking Avon.
Why is it that you guys are saying it's ok for Reese to talk about Jake but it's not expected of Jake to talk about her? This is his chance to take an active role in the bearding. If he doesn't, then it pretty much indicates that the "relationship" is all Reese's imagination and lies. If he does go along with the bearding and talk about her, well then I want to see him lie.
There is a 3rd option: tell the truth. I would love it if Jake said "People think me and Reese are a couple - we aren't, we're just good close friends and I enjoy spending time with her kids." LOL it would flatten Reese and make her look like a total fool. Maybe it's about time she gets caught in her lies and phony PR image. So what if she gets mad - she isn't the most powerful in HW. Far from it. I'd be willing to bet that she's hated in HW and that a lot of people would like to see her fall. Seeing her humiliated by having to sell Avon on Conan proves to me that she's on her way to the bottom.
Jake better watch out. Matthew Bomer is older, fresher and sexier. *sigh*
Reese does not talk about Jake. Mentioning that he likes to cook and hes very supportive twice in 3 years does not count. I am starting to wonder if they are even still bearding. No pictures have surfaced for quite some time now. Just a few sporadic and unverified sightings.
Reese does not talk about Jake.
Bullshit. She talked about him on Ellen and so far in at least 3 major magazines. Magazines where his name was on the cover, included as one of her topics in her featured interview. She and her PR signed off on those, they weren't accidents. Neither was the "Reese Loves Jake" on one of the magazine covers. She's said waaay more than Jake has said about her; that one word "Hilarious" when he was asked, about 3 years ago.
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Reese does not talk about Jake. Mentioning that he likes to cook and hes very supportive twice in 3 years does not count.
Her "supportive" and "he cooks" quotes and the content approved by her and her PR, as well as others (in one early interview she said they left their European hotel room at midnight and threw coins in a fountain) are clearly meant to imply a romantic relationship. They count.
None of the magazines that had Reese's interviews ever retracted anything that might have been wrongly implied. She can't ever say that the magazines took creative license with her quotes and made a romance out of nothing. She and her PR never complained about what any of those magazines printed.
Brothers - Since Tobey seems to be getting all the buzz for Brothers, maybe he'll be nominated for some awards? If so, I doubt Jake will attend any award shows. Actually I'm pretty sure it will be like that.
@karafort yeah! but from what i hear, jake won't be doing interviews.. just natalie and tobey.
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I just got a text from DH, it was a picture of him with Jake Gyllenhal! OMFG. then he sent me a video fro his phone. He's eating lunch with him and Anne Hathaway (who has her black lab there) and he said they're so nice! I said GIVE HIM A KISS FROM ME. ugh.
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^^It should be Jake and Anne...
Awwww! :)
Reese does not talk about Jake. Mentioning that he likes to cook and hes very supportive twice in 3 years does not count.
She does talk, but makes sure it's noncommittal because:
1. it's a fauxmance
2. she needs Jake to get publicity and sell fake public image. It's always about her, Jake is just marketing tool.
Jake & Anne said...
^^Jeeze why the hell can't blogger allow " & " in a name?! You'd think after all this time they'd get a fucking clue.
"I would have thought that celebrities and other millionaires have personal shoppers."
She has to try on the clothes to see if they suite her and fit.
OK why did it correct it in a post?! Fuck. Should be "Jake & Anne said..."
Well whatever.. & amp;
makes sure it's noncommittal
Noncommittal but obviously and severely implied - which makes it awkward for Jake. She's really a conniving bitch isn't she.
LOL Jake has to either break up with Reese or marry the beard before he has to do any interviews.
How the fuck do I get out of this mess?
Marry me.
Jake don't say anything until we figure this shit out. Until then just dance and sing and do ostrich impressions.
*Fuck, Evelyn is #666!*
Noncommittal but obviously and severely implied - which makes it awkward for Jake.
Just to make sure we are taliking about the same thing - implied that she's dating Jake?
Reeke are selling "romance", why would Reese imply anything else?
Reese has talked about Jake, on Ellen about them celebrating her birthday ...
Reese was caught lying about them celebrating her birthday.
Until then just dance and sing and do ostrich impressions.
YES!
JOHNNY DEPP
From a sexy swashbuckler in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise to quirkier roles like Edward Scissorhands, the 46-year-old star has had women swooning since his days as a teen detective on 21 Jump Street. Yet it's his devotion to his family that really makes the actor so endearing. "I could sit there all day and do nothing but watch them grow," he's said of children Lily-Rose, 10, and Jack, 7. "I'm totally inspired by them."
RYAN REYNOLDS
They may have sparred onscreen in The Proposal, but costar Sandra Bullock has nothing but admiration for the actor, 33. "Ryan is a really good man. He's really loyal, very trustworthy, and he can keep a secret," she says. "And he's got the sickest mind. His mind is a dark, scary place."
JAKE GYLLENHAAL
"Jake is the kind of guy who can do a spot-on impression of someone you work with that will make you giggle," raves Brothers costar Natalie Portman about the 28-year-old. "He plays guitar and has a great voice. Kids and dogs love him. He loves his mom and sister and girlfriend. He's perfect. Too bad he's ugly."
BRADLEY COOPER
The Hangover star, 34, has already won over a fan in his costar Heather Graham. "Obviously he's very great looking, but he also has a great personality," she says. "He manages to be manly while still being sensitive. As a woman, he makes you feel very attractive. When you're around him, he's always like, 'I love your dress.'"
ROBERT DOWNEY JR.
"Robert has a way of making everyone around him feel very special and comfortable," Michelle Monaghan, his costar in the upcoming Due Date, raves about the 44-year-old. "Whenever I see him, I walk away smiling. Those beautiful brown eyes may have something to do with it."
Sexiest Man Alive 2009
He loves his mom and sister and girlfriend.
Natalie or People magazine?
All quotes from Natty.
Jake - He loves his mom and sister and girlfriend.
Bradley Cooper - As a woman, he makes you feel very attractive. When you're around him, he's always like, 'I love your dress.'
Geez.
Rob Pattinson People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive For 2009
What?! Bruckheimer didn't buy that title for his Prince? Cheap bitch!
Not so cheap after all, Jerry bought no 3.
Thanks Jerry! Thanks Nat!
He loves his mom and sister and girlfriend.
WTF?! Can't believe that Natalie said that.
Oh, I see...
Toothy is going to make OTHERS talk about his "girlfriend".
I wish he'd realize soon that
a half-liar is still a liar :(
Jake knows he's a liar and sometimes is even embarrassed about it (old, Rome Vanity Fair interview).
Nat - "He loves his mom and sister and girlfriend"
What..? No daddy?
This is our SEXIEST Man Alive list where all men (OK, all men except Adam Lambert) ADORE women and are as straight as arrows!
Daddy G is a loony tune.
There's nothing wrong with Daddy G :)
Tell that to the rest of the family.
He must be on mid-life crisis #12, broke, and tries to pick up girls young enough to be his daughters , blech.
movieScope: Saw Brothers today.. Jake Gyllenhaal, Tobey Maguire & Natalie Portman: what a dream team! Full review in next issue of movieScope!
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Tell that to the rest of the family.
What do you mean, who has a problem with Stephen?
KaufmanAstoria: Grover: I can't WAIT to meet Maggie Gyllenhaal when she visits Sesame Street tomorrow on set at Kaufman Astoria Studio! (via @sesamestreet)
12 minutes ago
He must be on mid-life crisis #12, broke, and tries to pick up girls young enough to be his daughters , blech.
DUH!!!
SEXIEST MAN ALIVE is..... - ONTD comments
^This list of #sexiestmenalive isn't in order, save for our cover star - just a preview of who is in the issue
What? They expect us to BUY People magazine?!? lol
This list of #sexiestmenalive isn't in order, save for our cover star - just a preview of who is in the issue http://ow.ly/Dnl6
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I don't understand why they used such an old picture. And why a quote from Natalie and not the beard. This is the first I ever heard of him playing guitar.
^^^
everything about Jake is starting to sound/look fake
Let's not forget - that's People magazine, just a bit better than Star tabloid.
@kristapley Are you allowed to briefly share your reaction to Brothers?
@thekingbulletin Yeah I am, I'll get around to it. Good not great. Impressed by Gyllenhaal more than Maguire.
Wow Jake is no 3 at the sexiest men alive? Boy didn't have a hit since BBM, 4 years ago. Hats off to still manage to make it so high. Natalie is obviously a fangirl. ;)
Wow Jake is no 3 at the sexiest men alive?
We don't know yet - This list of #sexiestmenalive isn't in order, save for our cover star - just a preview of who is in the issue.
Congrats to Adam Lambert. But where is Ryan Gosling? Jeez it's just the classically pretty boys who make it high. Gosling is sexier than most of them.
Natalie is obviously a fangirl.
Natalie is a longtime (10-12 years?) friend.
We don't know yet - This list of #sexiestmenalive isn't in order, save for our cover star - just a preview of who is in the issue.
Oh, I see.
But where is Ryan Gosling?
Be patient, it's a 100 men list :)
Be patient, it's a 100 men list :)
And he better be on that list, or else... ;)
... you'll kick some butts! :)
Posters like 12:38 PM and 12:44 PM should get a clue. Lists like this have little to do with sexiness, it's about PR!!
... you'll kick some butts! :)
Damn right!
@thekingbulletin Yeah I am, I'll get around to it. Good not great. Impressed by Gyllenhaal more than Maguire.
Kristopher Tapley posts on incontention.com and loves ‘Crazy Heart’ trailer.
12:50 PM - what about Depp? He doesn't really need PR, but he's still on top.
12:50 PM - what about Depp?
'Alice In Wonderland'
Production Budget: $250,000,000 (Estimated)
Distributor: Walt Disney Pictures
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'Alice In Wonderland'
Production Budget: $250,000,000 (Estimated)
Distributor: Walt Disney Pictures
I forgot about AIW.
Who said anything about Depp? He had movies out this year and he's one of the biggest and hottest stars in the world. It's actors like Jake who get on these lists with the help of their publicists. What has he been in in the last two years?
^.....other than Reeke...
11:54: The same reason why Sandra Bullock comments on Ryan Reynolds instead of his wife Scarlett, etc: They want fangir;l/boy gushing and it would soound even lamer coming from a spouse/GF/
I heard twice about Jake playing the guitar. Once back in Jan. 2006 when he appeared on Oprah to promote BBM with the cast. Someone posted on some fan board that after the show they saw Jake leaving the studio with a guitar slung over his shoulder.
The other time was a few months later when he was linked to that snowboarding chick. Someone posted on IMDB that they had no idea what the deal was but she did invite him to her b-day party in Denver and he brought his guitar . I think they said thah it was folk/rock or something like that.
^^^ Sorry, those two guitar stories are less believable than Reeke tabloid fiction.
I know Jake was in a band as a teen. He even bragged about stealing the drummer's girlfriend (you can read that on ihj faq). But why would he carry around a guitar when promoting BBM on Oprah?
Thousands pictures of Jake and zero pictures of Jake with a guitar.
Babbler's back!
Just because you don't dead about or see crap on IHJ on any other of the Jake sites, doesn't make it false.
Doesn't make it true just because it's published by a PR friendly tabloid.
BTW, if he knows how to play the piano, the harmonica and sing, why not the guitar???
I'm not saying I don't believe he can play guitar. He was interested in it and learned it. But that he can play harmonca and piano I didn't know either. And I think I've read almost every interview with him and many things about him, but never heard about it.
NEVER heard about piano and guitar.
Jake "played" harmonica for Ellen's birthday, over telephone.
Why are you having a fit over a comment that Natalie made in that rag? I think that you are more pissed about her comment the girlfriend.
Never saw him play the piano but he does according to his co-stars on BBM and Zodiac.
Link please.
Never saw him play the piano but he does according to his co-stars on BBM and Zodiac.
Who was mentioning it and what did they say? I never read a thing about it.
The person that mentioned the Oprah sighting said that he didn't take the guitar to the taping but was staying at a hotel with the other cast and saw him with the guitar going into the hotel.
Doesn't make sense at all.
Jake needed a guitar in Chicago?!?
I think that you are more pissed about her comment the girlfriend.
Yes, I'm pissed about Natalie's / PR's / People magazine's (?) comment about the "girlfriend".
So, he is playing drums, piano, harmonica and guitar. I'm a bad fan cause I didn't know that at all. LOL.
I heard twice about Jake playing the guitar.
Bullshit.
Oh,c'mon people! Almost everybody "play" guitar in their youth, specially the grunge generation.It's a "cool" thing to do (fuck,i sound so old)
After 25 years old, all the band-music-playing instrument fades away in exchange of other interest...like bearding,in Jake's case.
Yes to all of the above. He was in a band in HS so I would think that guitar and drums would be 2 instruments that he would learn to play.
Have no idea why Jake took his guitar with him to Chicago, why don't you ask him?
Jake said he "stole" the drummers girlfriend. That's why he probably wasn't the drummer or played drumms. He probably played guitar.
^^in the HS band that is.
why don't you ask him?
Because that never happened.
He probably played guitar.
Singers don't need musical instruments.
9.) Was Jake ever in a band?
Yes he was. He was in a band called Holeshot when he was in his late teens. There are no recordings or tracks that we know of and Jake himself said that it was just a "jam band". He got kicked out of the band because he had a relationship with the drummers girlfriend. *thats our Jakey *haha!
Source: IHM FAQ
^^IHJ FAQ
The truth probably is that he plays a little guitar for fun. He probably learned it in the band or for the band in High School.
Yeah right, Jake has a guitar-players fingers. The thicker tips and small calluses, a few cuts here and there. Uh huh. Dead giveaway he plays guitar all the time. /sarcasm
^^Oh please, he's probably not a great player, but he's probaby alright and does it for fun. Besides, why would Natalie lie? She probably knows him since their late teens and maybe watched his band perform. ;)
All of those co-star quotes sound--and most certainly were--written by pr.
2:08 PM #2
But you believe she lied about Jake loving his girlfriend aka Reese, right?
Natalie is fucking nuts IMO. She's a brown-noser - signing the Polanski petition proved that she will do anything to stay in the good graces of the almighty dollar. She's a double-talking, holier-than-thou pseudo-intellectual i.e. her "Eating meat is worse than rape" crap. Rape apologists and Carvel ice cream cakes anyone? Natalie is full of shit.
I hate Natalie too!!!
I don't hate Natalie. She's an actress I don't care for. I like Anne H., Michelle W. and Zooey Deschanel right now. Zooey was adorable in 500 Days Of Summer. Cute girl.
^^I love the pics of Zooey chatting with Michelle at the Indie Spirit Awards 2008. They should do a movie together. :D
Natalie is just one of many of Hollywood PR's spawn, no better or worse than Reese.
ok, maybe not worse than Reese.
Supporting Polanski wasn't a wise PR move.
He loves his girlfriend.
Which one? The girl from 10 years ago before he found out he preferred men, the guy in his life who's a big girly girl, or the imaginary tabloid one who's supposed to make his bank account bigger?
I think Nat should have said "he loves his parents, sister..."
Not only mom and sister. I thought he's on good terms with daddy G?
Which one? The girl from 10 years ago before he found out he preferred men, the guy in his life who's a big girly girl, or the imaginary tabloid one who's supposed to make his bank account bigger?
She meant that one, I supppose. LOL.
LOL Natalie said gf not Reese. And IA why leave out his dad? His friends? ~ probably none are left. For all we know Jake has a cardboard figure of a female that he calls his Girlfriend and kisses every night.
What if all that Natalie said was true? What if what Ted saw (Jake & Austin) were just two close friends and he misread or exaggeraed the situation, but because of the popularity of TT he contnued to add tales? What if the looks he gave Mr. Ledger was "just" admiration for a very talented guy? What if he is indeed dating Reese? Maybe Jake is being attacked for nothing?
Maybe his hand is his girlfriend.
LOL Natalie said gf not Reese.
Yes, but she said mother not Naomi or sister and not Maggie. Everyone knows whom she means when she says girlfriend.
IMO on Kimmel Jake will mention Reese in passing, casually but noncommittally. Like he would with a buddy, friend, boyfriend - so that no one will be able to define exactly what his relationship with her is.
Yes, but she said mother not Naomi or sister and not Maggie. Everyone knows whom she means when she says girlfriend.
Mmm no. Jake has only 1 mother and 1 sister (that he knows of, lol) in the world. "girlfriend" can be anyone. It was included to imply he's straight (lol), that he has a gf. The specifics like the gf's name isn't important - it's that he has one!
Jake has only 1 mother and 1 sister
But publically he has 1 gf that the public knows of.
2:43 puh-leese. A million pics of Reeke in 3 years, vague and odd mentions of Jake by Reese, proves these 2 are phony. If they are real they are the most sexless, chemistry devoid, physically non-communicative couple I have ever witnessed.
HillaryMosca: Making movies is funnn. And involves early mornings! Jake Gyllenhaal addressed me as Shannon Doherty today. And, I saw Anne Hathaway. Happy!
5 minutes ago
Jake I hope you're working on that ostrich impression.
Thanks Nat! Haha if people only knew that Austy and I say Hey Girlfriend! to each other.
Hey Girlfriend!
Maybe Jake is being attacked for nothing?
Use YOUR head, don't listen to others. Check out few hundred pre-reeking Jake pictures, Reeke Rome 2007 pictures and then tell me that those two fakers are dating.
If Natalie, like Rufus, wants to remain in Jake's life, she better stick to the official story. And she's a much better liar than Jake anyway.
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Jakey needs a couple hits (critically and/or commercially) than his spot will be legit. :)
I'am a JiG believer, but I don't mind doing the little exercise of thinking for a moment that Reeke might be real.
IF that's the case, then I still would find them to be phony and conceited as shit!
The way they are managing their relationship to the press screams PR publicity all over the world!!
Those ridiculous Rome pics seemed like a Visa advertising and I can't believe that celebrities still think coffe runs make excellent photo-ops.
But,hey, like some poster here always say: It's HIS life!
And I agree with that, but I also admit that I love make fun about reeke in this site and I don't see Jake being "punished" as it was said in a post above. People commenting on blogs hardly make a difference in actors' lives or careers.
So, as long Chin keeps paying for for showing up in magz & blogs, I'm going to keep talking about her fuglyness and horrible personality because.. is there something funnier than an ageing,pretentios has-been trying to be relevant??
I think not.
Kiki on Michelle Williams:
1999: WITH MICHELLE WILLIAMS IN DICK
"Michelle and I have remained friends. We played Deep Throat in the Watergate scandal. It's a really clever film. It's funny for kids, but also good for adults."
There's also a pic of the two girls.
fashion spot
Interesting!
^^There's also her quote (and a pic with) about Jake.
Kirsten Dunst sat down with Allure to discuss her most memorable looks over the years—and the one she'd like to forget (see slide #5). For more of our exclusive interview with the actress, pick up the December issue of Allure, on newsstands November 24.
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2004: WITH THEN BOYFRIEND JAKE GYLLENHAAL AT THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW PREMIERE IN NEW YORK CITY
"I'm wearing a Chanel blazer, and all my hair is chopped off. I think that's fake snow. We were at the Museum of Natural History. If I saw him, it'd be nice to see him, but we're not good friends."
Huh?!
She was decribing the picture they showed to her.
So, as long Chin keeps paying for for showing up in magz & blogs, I'm going to keep talking about her fuglyness and horrible personality because.. is there something funnier than an ageing,pretentios has-been trying to be relevant??
Or trying to be amusing by repeating retarded story about her trash management, LOL.
She was decribing the picture they showed to her.
But what is she saying?
Kirsten doesn't know that it was fake snow?!
What does "If I saw him, it'd be nice to see him, but we're not good friends" mean?
Kiki & Michelle Williams
^^^^
I wonder who the fuck cares about those two...
The person who posted that.
What does "If I saw him, it'd be nice to see him, but we're not good friends" mean?
^^
It means exactly what she is saying, she would like to see him but they are not in good terms......maybe because of Mrs.Beard??
Kirsten doesn't know that it was fake snow?!
What does "If I saw him, it'd be nice to see him, but we're not good friends" mean?
Judging by the pics, it was fake snow. As for Jake, I think she was asked "what if you saw him" and she continued "if I saw him etc..."
At least that's my interpretation.
Or she's just not very eloquent. LOL.
Kiki & Michelle Williams
^^^^
I wonder who the fuck cares about those two...
Most here suppose Michelle is so anti drugs, but is still pals with a druggie party girl?
I don't think she's so perfect like some seem to think here.
maybe because of Mrs.Beard??
I wouldn't be surprised.
Those chiks reminded friends??!!!
I guess Michelle never found out Kiki did the nasty with Heath...
Or maybe Kiki is so wasted that she thinks she is having a tea party in her house with Michelle, when she is actually talking with the radiator
:(
Austin was at that TDAT premiere. In all the pics he's looking at Jake. Kiki probably has bad memories of it because of the deception that was going on, that she found out about later.
Portman is a bit of a loon, and I agree that she is a much better liar than jake. That's assuming, of course, that she actually recognizes he's bearding. She's done a little bearding herself, so she's familiar with the practice, but I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't know from Jake's lips directly.
It is a clear as a bell that Jake does not trust any of his colleagues and very few, if any, of his friends. That's why we see rarely see him with people outside of the beard and his family. When you have so many secrets to hide (your homosexuality being the most important secret of all), so many contractual obligations and a complete obsession with one all-encompassing goal (getting a franchise at all costs), you tend to push people away. He turned his libido off a long time ago (the meditation helps).
Jake is muzzled, contractually bound to the teeth, professionally insecure, transient and emotionally dependent upon a few people (including a truly sociopathic, manipulative, controlling beard). At this point, Natalie is not a member of the inner circle.
The person who posted that.
Of course I care. To me it's one more proof that HL was a drug user but probably not an addict and that it was HIM who dumped HER clingy little ass.
It saddens me but I honestly believe Jake will act as though Reese is his gf/love of his life on the talk shows.
4:52 PM
What are you bullshiting about?? Care to elaborate your strange theory, si vous plé?
Who says that Kirsten is an addict? Maybe she's also an occasionl user who likes to get drunk when going out? Maybe she doesn't need rehab, but growing up?
maybe because of Mrs.Beard??
What Mrs.Beard has to do with Kirsten?
Kirsten I'll Never Date An Actor Again Dunst and Jake broke up 4 years ago and it obviously wasn't a friendly break up.
"Or maybe Kiki is so wasted that she thinks she is having a tea party in her house with Michelle, when she is actually talking with the radiator"
:(
Kirsten must be lying because saint Michelle could never be friends with someone like her. lol, you still believe in Santa don’t you??
4:52 many if not most people in their 20's/30's try/do recreational drugs, especially in the creative fields. No big deal.
Kirsten Dunst: "Michelle and I have remained friends."
That is nice. Kirsten is a person, not just alcohol and drug user.
4:52 PM
What are you bullshiting about?? Care to elaborate your strange theory, si vous plé?
Strange? I don't think so! She obviously has no problem dating or being friends with drug users. HL most likely used drugs when they started dating. She knew about it. Seems she had no problem with it.
Michelle also dated Spike Jonze, a know cokehead.
^^Exactly.
People, non of the actors we discuss here are saints. They all probably had bi-, drug experiences etc... at some point.
Kirsten Dunst: "Michelle and I have remained friends."
^^^^
Oh,yes. A former star wasted on drungs up to the head and a vindictive fuss who can't keep a man without threats.
Theirs must be the friendship of the century!
not to mention Kiki fucked Michelle's fiancee...
That's what is called a great friend,people!
5:01 PM
One thing is to co-star a movie or hang out a few times with a druggie aquantaince, to be engaged and having a baby is a very different matter.
not to mention Kiki fucked Michelle's fiancee...
So what?
As messed up as Kiki is she's probably the only woman who fucked both Jake AND Heath. Not bad.
IMO Jake dumped Kirsten for image reasons and maybe because he started dating Austin. Reese, he probably thought, is much better company then a party girl.
Reese had just won her Oscar and was widely a popular actress. He probably thought she was a good catch.
As messed up as Kiki is she's probably the only woman who fucked both Jake AND Heath. Not bad.
Nope, not at all. ;)
not to mention Kiki fucked Michelle's fiancee...
So what?
^^
SO WHAT???!!!!! People shouldn't go to bed with their friend's fiancee, for Christ sake!!
What are you, a hippie? ;D
Heath probably fucked Kiki before he started dating Michelle and before Kiki started dating Jake. I'm not saying Heath was faithful to Michelle, but I don't think he had something with Kiki while he was with Michelle.
Heath and Kirsten were shortly together YEARS BEFORE Heath and Michelle met. Why would Michelle care?!?
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