Tuesday, 19 May 2009
Playing gay, being gay
24 November 2005
This well might be the Year of the Gay at the Oscars. Not the year of the gay actor - heavens forbid - but the year when actors are rewarded for playing gay parts. Philip Seymour Hoffman has produced what is said to be a virtuoso account of Truman Capote's mincing style in Capote. Felicity Huffman, the put-upon one in Desperate Housewives, has been persuaded to play a male-to-female transvestite in Transamerica. And Annie Proulx's great short story, Brokeback Mountain, about an extended and tragic love affair between two cowboys, has been filmed by Ang Lee with Heath Ledger and Jake Gyllenhaal in the leads.
Oscars surely await some of these. There are half a dozen other big name actors playing gay roles this season, and it's evidently now a safe career move. It's worth noting, however, that none of these actors themselves is gay, and indeed most of them have been at some pains to distance themselves from any such suggestion. Michelle Williams, the mother of Ledger's child, appears in Brokeback Mountain as his character's betrayed wife. That, one must assume, could only happen when there was no possibility whatever of it being, for instance, a sardonic joke on a real-life gay affair. The casting of Williams is a spectacular example of the sexual alibi; for anyone who cares to wonder, we are reassured that this could only be a piece of "let's pretend", and the actor's real interests are nervously displayed on screen.
As if that wasn't enough, the actors in these films are always at pains to stress the incredible trauma involved in having to pretend to kiss a person of the same sex in front of cameras. To be fair, this is always a subject that unhealthily obsesses interviewers, but actors' responses are often highly amusing. Jake Gyllenhaal has said: "Heath and I were both saying, 'Let's get the love scenes over as fast as we can - all right, cool. Let's get to the important stuff.'"
We are left in no doubt at all. The actors in these films are so extraordinarily heterosexual that playing gay presents them with incredible challenges. Personally, I've spent a day down a working coal mine, and think that, as jobs go, being asked to snog Heath Ledger is not among the world's more demanding professional tasks.
But Hollywood, evidently, agrees with the actors. When you look at recent Oscars, the tendency is fairly clear. Tom Hanks - famously uxorious - won for playing a gay man in Philadelphia. Hilary Swank's burlesque turn as a transsexual teen in Boys Don't Cry followed, and then Charlize Theron won for the fat, ugly, lesbian serial killer in Monster. Of course, as is customary, some of the Oscar-winning credit goes to the make-up artist here - golly, look at Charlize, she's made herself all ugly - but most of it is surely down to the incredible fact that an artist was prepared to demean herself enough to play a lesbian.
When you look at the history of Oscar-winning performances, Hollywood's new enthusiasm for embracing minorities seems less than profound. Notoriously, the easiest way to win an Oscar is to play somebody bravely fighting against a physical condition or a mental handicap. The easiest route of all, in fact, is to play a gifted artist suddenly struck down by disability - the early years of the Academy awards are littered with long-forgotten tales of deaf sopranos and ballerinas with gout. As the "Kate Winslet" character in Ricky Gervais's series Extras scabrously observed, "Daniel Day-Lewis in My Left Foot? Oscar. Dustin Hoffman, Rain Man? Oscar. Seriously, you are guaranteed an Oscar if you play a mental."
The way Hollywood is rushing to reward heterosexual actors playing gay roles does not, really, reflect very well on its engagement. It is just too much like its fairly disgraceful engagement with mental and physical disability, and too much like rewarding a variety turn. Hollywood, so admiring of an actor's ability to project a sexuality not his own in these cases, has never been in a hurry to reward those far more common examples of gay actors convincingly playing heterosexual roles. In most cases, that involves rather more than the requirement of kissing this year's starlet in front of the cameras - a requirement no less or more demanding for a gay actor than Mr Gyllenhaal being asked to kiss Mr Ledger, surely. It may involve an actor's whole life.
One of the very striking things about this whole curious fashion is that not one of the actors involved is gay themselves. Moreover, it seems fairly likely, in view of the tone of the attendant publicity, that a studio just wouldn't cast a gay actor in one of these roles. It is quite impossible to imagine Heat magazine asking a gay actor how they enjoyed kissing their straight co-star, or indeed, their gay co-star. It would raise questions of enthusiasm which the world of publicity is not quite ready for and we can only, it seems, watch such kisses with the assurance, as swift as can be arranged, that nobody involved could possibly have derived pleasure from it.
But there's another, rather bigger reason why the studios wouldn't cast a gay actor in such a role. In America, evidently, there aren't any gay actors. One may grow rather satirical on the subject, but the truth is that whereas in every other country in the world it is widely accepted that theatre and film offer a congenial and sympathetic area in which gay men and women can work, this is simply not true in America. There are no gay actors - or at least, there weren't until Nathan Lane, to everyone's utter incredulity, came out. Of course, there were gay actors in America's past - James Dean, Cary Grant, Dirk Bogarde, Rock Hudson, Danny Kaye. Plenty of them, in fact. But, for whatever reason, there's hardly a single gay actor of recognisable stature working in Hollywood. An incredible fact.
Sooner or later, one of those non-existent gay actors will take a role as a gay character, and tell us all subsequently how difficult they found kissing their co-star, to general derisive hilarity. In fact, it's not hard to think of a recent film where exactly that situation arose, starring one of those gentlemen with a boyfriend on the payroll and a lady hired for the purpose of premieres. But Hollywood will only seem truly tolerant when it allows gay actors to play gay roles, kissing included, and no whining about it in the publicity afterwards. Until then there's - how should one put it - a slight air of Al Jolson about the whole business.
Source: Gay for today by Philip Hensher, The Guardian
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1855 Newer› Newest»"But I am also pretty sure Jake is gay and was in lust, and if Heath were gay, Jake would have gone for it. Austin who?"
Im glad you're not the only deluded person posting today, but that doesnt mean you know what the fuck you're talking about.
This is not about Austin, you ass. Why do you need (haha) for it to be about Austin.
It's his total jerk-off screwed-up father that was the kiss of death for a happy and healthy gay sex life for his boy. /
What could I do? I couldn't let him prance around dressed up like Liberace!
So 3:53, what is it about?
Heath was a player. Jake would never have been able to hold him.
If Heath was gay which he wasn't.
Stephen, honey, all of your Swedenborgian prayers cannot stop yr kid from bursting into show tunes at the first musical bar -
Let it go, man.
Once a fanboy always a fanboy. Jake is a fan. Wonder whom he's crushing on, now.
"Heath was a player. Jake would never have been able to hold him."
duh!!
"But I am also pretty sure Jake is gay and was in lust, and if Heath were gay, Jake would have gone for it. Austin who?"
It takes more than lust to build a relationship. And in my experience most people never get involved with their crushes, and if they do, they usually don't move beyond the lust stage.
That may be true 4;24, but I am sure Jake would have enjoyed every minute of trying to find out.
Since the poor kid is dead, what is what people would be waiting for? x
I think some of you are waiting for him to come back from the dead. You really do need therapists. Obsessing over things that happened 3 years ago!
Nonsense.
Go look up your definitions, and then come back to discuss. :)
4:32 PM, that's sick. What's wrong with you?
Boy Heath really stirs this board. Maybe as much as Reese. We get all excited about the fake girlfriend. We get all excited about the fake(fantasy) boyfriend. But we don't seem to be nearly as interested in the real boyfriend. Is that because most of the Jaustinites are over at OMG. Or is there some other reason?
No drama.
"4:32 PM, that's sick. What's wrong with you?"
Nothing wrong with ME, Im just calling it as I see it.
4:50, LOL.
4:32 PM, 4:51 PM
N-word - no need to be disgusting and disrespectful.
"No drama."
There's a lot of drama at home. Daddy Austin wants daddy Jake to stop bearding with aunt Reese.
There's no Heath fetish. That's silly. We've discussed Kiki plenty on this board. She is certainly part of Jake's past.
Besides, we didn't tell Jake to lust after the man.
"N-word - no need to be disgusting and disrespectful."
You forgot hateful.
People who believe in Jaustin are secure in their beliefs, they don't need to get bogged down in all of this speculation about whether Jake might have ended up with Heath if Heath (i) wasn't straight, or mostly straight, (2) wasn't with Michelle for a period of time, (3) wasn't the father of Jake's goddaughter, (4) wasn't a player who, after breaking up with Michelle, was rumored to mostly be picking up women in bars for hookups, and (5)dead.
"There's no Heath fetish. That's silly. We've discussed Kiki plenty on this board. She is certainly part of Jake's past.
Besides, we didn't tell Jake to lust after the man."
blah blah blah blah blah.
tell it to the marines. & yr psychiatrist.
"People who believe in Jaustin are secure in their beliefs"
Based on what exactly?
^^Ted.
I'm kind of a Jaustin agnostic, I'm not as certain as some about the gospel according to St. Theodore, but would love for it to be true! I don't mind discussing the what ifs either. :)
"^^Ted."
Solid proof, you sure convinced me. Listen, I don't need Ted to tell me Jake is gay as a three dollar bill and bearding with Reese, that's clear as day. As for the rest i.e. TT&GG lovestory, people who buy it are just as delusional as the babblers and the J/H shippers. BT, committed relationship? Uh huh. Dream on.
The only thing that makes Austin really interesting is his relationship with Jake. Just look at the fact that when someone does bring up something new regarding Austin, the discussion doesn't last for very long.
Sorry Jaustinites. He really is just one more actor.
(((Austin)))
Hate to say this, but better to be a happy and healthy z-lister than a dead a-lister.
Confidential sources close to San Francisco City Hall told Towleroad's Corey Johnson that the California Supreme Court was prepared to release its opinion on Proposition 8 tomorrow, but decided to delay the ruling after a call from Mayor Gavin Newsom.
"Newsom reached out to the Supreme Court and asked them to hold off releasing their decision so it did not coincide with the White Night riots," said our source.
As mentioned earlier, a ruling Thursday would have fallen on the 30th anniversary of the San Francisco riots, which were set off when the court handed down the most lenient decision possible (voluntary manslaughter) against Dan White for the murders of supervisor Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone. The ensuing riots in San Francisco on May 21, 1979 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage.
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"Hate to say this, but better to be a happy and healthy z-lister than a dead a-lister."
No need to get nasty, Heath wasn't even mentioned.
All of this only proves that Heath, dead, is more interesting than Austin, alive.
Only interesting to you and whoever else has been babbling on about Heath, plenty of people are interested in Austin, you just have to look at the comments on JJ and ONTD after the biking pictures, more comments about Austin than Jake.
Yikes, nastiness galore on WFT2. I guess Jackie is on vacation?
Hearts and Roses
Really? Well how come nobody even discusses The Informers, which I thought was a better movie than it was given credit for. Did anyone even see it?
Why would anyone on this blog care about the comments on JJ or ONTD? The comment was about the lack of interest on this blog.
And no, few saw the "Informers." Once the word got out about how bad it was, that killed general interest. And I suspect most here don't care enough about Austin to be willing to cough up ten bucks.
I'll get interested in Austin when he becomes interesting.
I don't have anything in particular against Austin. I just don't find him particularly interesting. Face it, if he wasn't hooked up with Jake, how many people would really care about him?
I know that this is mean, but I am so disgusted by the bearding that I hope that Brothers flops and that POP flops big time. If POP flops I would be $1 million that the Chin will dump Jake as fast as possible. We won't have to be subjected to Reeke anymore. She won't have a need for Jake anymore. Reeke is all about making the Chin look good and how could she look good if her pussy whipped boyfriend had no career left. She wouldn't want to do photo ops with Jake the has been actor.Bullshit. If POP flops Jake will be even more fragile and vulnerable than he already is and the Chin will exert even more control over him. Remember that Ryan Phillipe was and has always been "beneath" her in terms of salary and fame, a situation I'm sure an alpha woman like Witherspoon will always been looking for in a partner - even a fake partner like Toothy.
Maybe if PoP and Brothers fail Jake will come to his senses and realize nobody wants to support a lying Reese-whipped ball-less man.
I'll get interested in Austin when he becomes interesting.
I'd rather he have a happy long life than be considered "interesting" by a bunch of strangers.
Who are you? His mother?
Come to his senses 11:15? What senses? The man's only goal is to be papped and be a true HW celebrity, not a serious actor. If his movies flop, the only "salvation" for a man like that is to stick to the beard.
You know, on second thought I really think Toothy is stuck with his beard no matter which way the wind blows: if his movies tank he'll want to stick by her side to stay in the limelight; and if his movies become blockbusters he will have to stay with the Chin anyway for if he dumps the General after hitting big, Reese's harpy fans will tear him apart mercilessly - and what Ryan had to endure will be like a week-end trip to country in comparison.
"All of this only proves that Heath, dead, is more interesting than Austin, alive."
that statement, for obvious reasons, isn't true to the individuals involved.
Omg, look at that pointy thing
Chinormica
Ewww! lol
Kris Allen scored a stunning, dark-horse victory over Adam Lambert on the star-studded season finale of "American Idol" Wednesday night. Read on for the new champ's shocked reaction and the full recap!
When host Ryan Seacrest revealed that the nearly one-hundred million votes cast favored Kris, the overjoyed 23-year-old from Arkansas said, "It feels good, man, but Adam deserved this. … I don't know what to feel right now, this is crazy!"
"I thought you were both brilliant, unusually incredibly nice people," Simon Cowell told the top two shortly before the result was announced, "and I think the both of you should be very proud of what you achieved last night. And the future's all yours."
I hope Adam isn't very disappointed.
What did you feel in those last moments when they announced the winner?
Well, you know, I knew it was going to be a close race. Kris is incredibly talented, and he's a good person. For me it was like, okay, we know it's going to be close. Whatever happens, happens. We made it this far. We got to do a really cool finale, and we're both gonna get to do great things in the future. For me, it's not really about what happens tonight. It's about tomorrow.
What's immediately next?
We're going start working on some music right way. That's what I can't wait to do: to collaborate, to write, to cowrite, to create visuals that go along with the music, too. That's gonna be really exciting.
Have you received any offers yet?
A couple. Just a few here and there.
What did the judges say to you after the show tonight?
Paula from the get-go has been super-supportive. I walked into the room and she just had the warmest, most positive energy. She just said she's proud of me. It's been a very encouraging environment. I never felt like, Well, you can't do that or you can't sing that and you can't say that and you can't wear that. It was like: Adam, do your thing. Which was really cool. When I was younger, it was scarier to take risks and I kept pushing myself throughout my early 20s to where it wasn't scary anymore.
Will you collaborate with Allison Iraheta?
I love Allison; we'll see. That'll be really cool.
Blogs are going to say, 'If he wins it's because he's gay, or if he loses it's because he's gay.' What do you think of that?
Is that what they're gonna say? [Laughs] Those blogs have a lot of opinions, don't they? [Laughs] I think that Kris won because he's a great artist and I was happy to be a runner-up to that.
What's your goal now?
My dream now is to make a really dope record. Do something new. Push the boundaries a little bit. Push people's buttons. Open people's minds up a little bit. If there's anything that can come from this experience I hope that all the fans out there can pick up that even if you're really different there's a way to get along with each other. We did the Queen duet and we made it work because we found a common ground with each other.
What was your strategy on the show this season?
My strategy was to show all different sides. There's a very fine line between giving the audience what they wanted and then also me trying to give them stuff that maybe they didn't know they wanted.
Tell us about your style.
I like things that make you look. I don't like to blend in. I like to stand out. This is a Cavalli jacket that I'm really, really into.
Are you happy with your new Ford Fusion Hybrid?
The Fusion is beautiful. It's so whisper quiet. Hybrid all the way. Let's protect the environment.
Reese and Jake making out at sofball game:
Yawn
Aww, Jake likes his fugly beard. lol
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72 Former Presidents, Prime Ministers Write to UN
The Club of Madrid has sent a letter, signed by 72 former presidents and prime ministers, to the United Nations urging Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to go to Burma to seek the release of Aung San Suu Kyi.
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Meanwhile, in advance of the trial of Suu Kyi more than 40 global celebrities on Sunday urged the countries of the world and the UN to speak in one voice and to demand that the Burmese democracy leader be freed immediately.
“We must not stand by as she is silenced once again. Now is the time for the United Nations and the entire international community to speak clearly and with one voice: Free Aung San Suu Kyi,” global celebrities said in a statement on Sunday.
Prominent signers included David Beckham, Meryl Streep, Nicole Kidman, Anderson Cooper, Madonna, John McCain, Sarah Jessica Parker, Brad Pitt, Julia Roberts, Salman Rushdie, Meg Ryan and Steven Spielberg.
“Nineteen years ago, the Burmese people chose Aung San Suu Kyi to be their next leader. And for most of those 19 years she has been kept under house arrest by the military junta that now runs the country. She is the world’s only incarcerated Nobel Peace Prize laureate,” the statement said. “Last week Suu Kyi was taken to Burma’s Insein Prison to face criminal charges as part of a concerted plan to deny her freedom.”
Among other signatories to the “Free Aung San Suu Kyi” statement were George Clooney, Madeleine Albright, Wes Anderson, Drew Barrymore, Matthew Broderick, Sandra Bullock, James Carville, Michael Chabon, Daniel Craig, John Cusack, Matt Damon, Robert De Niro, Dave Eggers, Jake Gyllenhaal, Václav Havel, Helen Hunt, Anjelica Huston, Scarlett Johansson, Nicole Kidman, Ashton Kutcher, Norman Lear, Mary Matalin, Cindy McCain, Rose McGowan, Orhan Pamuk, Paulo Sérgio Pinheiro, Robert Rodriguez, Meg Ryan, Liev Schreiber, George Soros, Meryl Streep, Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Naomi Watts, Prof Elie Wiesel and Owen Wilson.
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"Among other signatories to the “Free Aung San Suu Kyi” statement..."
Wow, Jake did something else besides reeking!
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answerbitch: @theawfultruth Don't you have a Toothy Tile blind item to write up, or is he retired? Haven't you been writing about him since the '60s?
theawfultruth: @answerbitch you must be looking in the mirror, it's your hair and glasses that are from the 60s, Toothy's fresh as your mouth
Brad Pitt says he doesn't remember why he agreed to do Quentin Tarantino's Inglorious Basterds. Pitty says: "Quentin came to visit some time at the end of the summer, we talked about backstory, we talked about movies - I get up the next morning and see five empty bottles of wine right on the floor, five, and something that resembles a smoking apparatus - I don't know what that was about - and apparently I had agreed to do this film." [Mirror]
Here's a first review of Brad Pitt's latest, Inglorious Basterds. Derek Malcolm calls it "absurd, overlong and mostly cardboard version of World War II." The script "places its actors in the unenviable position of appearing either melodramatic, farcical or just plain dull." And "there are some decent moments but they are few and far between." [This Is London]
Page Six
RYAN PHILLIPPE'S WANDERING EYE
RYAN Phillippe's wandering eye should come as no surprise to Abbie Cornish. Phillippe, who left his wife, Reese Witherspoon, for Cornish in 2006, was spotted partying with some blondes at VIP nightclub in Cannes, a spy reports. Though Phillippe and Cornish went to the film festival together, the actor was later spotted at 3 a.m. partying with Ne-Yo at Nikki Beach. He went back with the singer for lunch the next day, and Cornish was not with them, according to a source. Phillippe's rep had no comment.
"I'm doing a speech about the situation with AIDS in America basically, and how we need to address what's going on. We seem to be falling a little behind in America. I find this disease very cyclical. Every 10 years or so, after we spend a lot of money trying to educate people — a new generation of people — and we tell them to have safe sex and to abstain sometimes but have safe sex, wear condoms, we find that after 10 years another whole group of people come along. And we have to start all over again, which is really, really frustrating because it takes money for education. And we find that if we could get into the schools at a grass-roots levels, which we do in places like Africa where we get to kids at a young age and we tell them about preventive measures for not getting HIV, we find the success rate is tremendous." — Elton John. [CNN]
As mentioned earlier, a ruling Thursday would have fallen on the 30th anniversary of the San Francisco riots, which were set off when the court handed down the most lenient decision possible (voluntary manslaughter) against Dan White for the murders of supervisor Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone. The ensuing riots in San Francisco on May 21, 1979 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage.So the ruling is against same-sex marriage?
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"I know that this is mean, but I am so disgusted by the bearding that I hope that Brothers flops and that POP flops big time. If POP flops I would be $1 million that the Chin will dump Jake as fast as possible. We won't have to be subjected to Reeke anymore. She won't have a need for Jake anymore. Reeke is all about making the Chin look good and how could she look good if her pussy whipped boyfriend had no career left. She wouldn't want to do photo ops with Jake the has been actor."
Just one advice: go to the therapist.
"But we don't seem to be nearly as interested in the real boyfriend. Is that because most of the Jaustinites are over at OMG. Or is there some other reason?"
Please stop with your "real boyfriend" , there is no real boyfriend, Austin is in the same level than heath in "the cool fantasy lover" category.
Except that Austin isn't cool. Poor dear.
"So the ruling is against same-sex marriage?"
I think Supreme Court wouldn't leak the info, I hope it's just a precaution.
"Just one advice: go to the therapist."
Come on, that's silly :)
A couple of days after Ryan and Abbie in Cannes, we get Reeke joining lips.
When do they do that? Almost never!!
I think that's because smooch pics are saved as heavy artillery
Am i right,or i need therapy too?
You are right :)
^^But there are rumors about Ryan's wandering eye. Reese must be laughing her ass off. Abbie will dump his cheating ass in no time.
I'm not worry about Abbie, she can find a new hot man in a second.
Guys must be forming a line waiting to date her and i'm sure she won't need to pay a gay dude with carrer issues to be her bf.
"Reese must be laughing her ass off."
I don't think so. Ryan and Abbie are getting media attention and Reese doesn't like that. Remember her Ojai house Us Reekly cover for Ryan's Stop-Loss release?
News of Ryan cheating Abbie makes people remember he was unfaithful to Chin too.
It's like: "Oh,yes.He cheats the new gf,because he used to cheat his wife as well"
I don't think that kind of comments are making Chin very happy, i'm sure she is so pissed that she won't take a shower for the rest of the week :(
LOL
SF Mayor Gavin Newsom Asked Court to Delay Prop 8 Ruling
UPDATE: Towleroad received this tip from a highly credible source who did the interview on the condition that they remain anonymous. We have been working to get additional sources.
Gavin Newsom's office has issued a release denying the story.
San Francisco Supervisor Bevan Dufty spoke with Towleroad late this afternoon, saying he doubted the claims. Said Dufty: "It is implausible if not impossible to imagine that the Mayor could reach out to the California Supreme Court. Any thinking person would know that he would be radioactive to the justices given his leadership on the issue. His father is a retired federal judge. The Mayor's courage on this issue is unimpeachable. He would not intrude in what we've been waiting for."
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I am pretty sure Reese is laughing her ass off. I sure as hell would be. What better payback than for Abbie to experience the same douche behavior as Reese?
If it's true, you can be sure Reese's people will make sure everyone knows what an ass Ryan still is and how much better off Reese is.
And Abbie needs to dump that loser.
"What better payback than for Abbie to experience the same douche behavior as Reese?"
Nah, I don't think Reese feels like laughing about her seven years of bad marriage.
And the answer is "no" — to ending the speculation, that is:
EW: I want to just get this question out of the way first, something that's been dangling a bit over you for the whole season: Would you like to put to rest all the speculation about your sexuality?
LAMBERT: It's not dangling over my head. [Laughing] It may be dangling over yours, but it's not over mine. Yeah, I think speculation keeps things really interesting.
EW: So you don't want to say anything one way or the other?
LAMBERT: Like I said, I think speculation keeps things very, very interesting. [Laughs]
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If this with Jake and Reese was real, I'd call her lucky bitch, but there's something so off about them. I know all think it's most likely because she's a beard and maybe that's it.
I just looked at pictues of Michelle and Ryan Gosling kissing for a movie and compared their pics with the ones from J/R kissing at the softball training and let's say J/R date for real, then the staged kiss from Michelle and Ryan was 100% hotter than Jake's and Reese's "real" one. As I've said, I don't "feel" Jake and Reese and yeah it's probably because they are not real. Yeah. :)
I wonder if this Ryan bit over in Cannes is made up, to make him look like the bad guy. Just like clockwork. ;)
^^^ Wouldn't surprise me.
Look how she enjoyed kissing her stupid ex.
Reese and Ryan
Ryan "eating" Reese's face
I'll always believe there's more than meets the eye to their breakup.
You can all me crazy, but maybe Reese isn't completely over her babydaddy yet?
It takes time, even if the guy was a jerk. Plus, if you had kids with them, they'll always be a part of your life. ;)
Jake and Drunkst, totally different than Reeke:
Jake and Drunkst
"It takes time, even if the guy was a jerk. Plus, if you had kids with them, they'll always be a part of your life. ;)"
That's true.
Ya gotta admit that Reeke is brilliant choice - no chance he's gonna want to fuck her and vice versa.
She looks kinda like Jackie Coogan in The Kid, or somebody out of the Our Gang cast.
Now that's what I call bedhead, Kiki and Jake - look at them, just rolled out of bed. Jake's hair looks adorable, and Kiki can't stop kissing him. :)
"Now that's what I call bedhead, Kiki and Jake - look at them, just rolled out of bed. Jake's hair looks adorable, and Kiki can't stop kissing him. :)"
Exactly. Never saw that with Reeke. Though I believe Jake might swing both ways, I think Reeke is likely just a convenience matter and maybe both have other sex parnters on the side like Jake maybe still has his "little goose" on the side. Just a thought.
Likely just a convenience matter?!
Fauxmance for sure.
The stories about Ryan in Cannes over the weekend are true, would explain why a glum faced Ryan and Abby returned to the US on Monday, pics of them at LAX and a sighting of Ryan in NY on Tuesday.
Why would Abby leave Cannes before the awards were handed out, her film and her performance have been getting raves and is in contention.
Ryan is a douche.
BTW: When Ryan was promoting Stop Loss, he sure sounded like someone who hasn't gotten over his ex by saying things like I still care about Reese, she is a sweatheart, etc.
Talk is cheap - Ryan cheated on Reese and finally left her for Abbie.
Seriously, after dating for 3 years and everything's so great, why the hell would she refuse to marry him? Doesn't make sense. A good looking, nice fellow who is good with your kids wants to marry you, what good reason must one have not to marry that dude? This all doesn't make sense and points to fauxmance.
Now that's what I call bedhead, Kiki and Jake - look at them, just rolled out of bed. Jake's hair looks adorable, and Kiki can't stop kissing him. :)
^^^
Please!! They look like "Will&Grace drank too much and started touching each other like a pair of horny/lonely teenagers"
like I still care about Reese, she is a sweatheart, etc./
She's still the mother of his children (whom he probably loves most in the world). I'm sure if he came in a situation (as absurd as it sounds) and has to save either Reese or one of his affairs like Abbie, he'd save Reese for sure. ;)
"Please!! They look like "Will&Grace drank too much and started touching each other like a pair of horny/lonely teenagers"
I don't agree. I think they were very in love with each other.
Love? Just fuck buddies.
Seriously, after dating for 3 years and everything's so great, why the hell would she refuse to marry him? Doesn't make sense. A good looking, nice fellow who is good with your kids wants to marry you, what good reason must one have not to marry that dude? This all doesn't make sense and points to fauxmance.
^^^
It is a fauxmance,no doubt. But even if it wasn't , things are more complicated than that
A good looking, nice fellow who is good with your kids wants to marry you, what good reason must one have not to marry that dude?Once burned -
"This all doesn't make sense and points to fauxmance."
127 Reeke photo ops, with Reeke looking off, without chemistry and bored with each other, proves it's a fauxmance. Over the years Reeke got better at faking it, but they are still off.
I don't agree. I think they were very in love with each other
^^
Just like W&G!
Once burned -/
If that's true then she should change her mind quckly. Jake might want children and he'd probably have no problems to find a pretty, young lady to have his baby.
Jake/Kiki - I think they very in love at first and definitely fucked. Her immaturity and drug use and maybe Jake's supposed affair with Austin broke them up.
^^ITA, and if they act young it's because they were young at the time. :)
I believe Jake and Kirsten were real as well, but there are people who have convinced themselves that Jake is strictly gay, so they will never admit to anything that may point to the contrary. We all, in the end, see what we want to see.
It's kind of like the people who believe Brad and Angie are fake and someone else birthed their kids. It doesn't matter how much PDA they see, they always see it as fake.
"Once burned -"
LOL, you are talking about media whore who started the "who could resist Reese Witherspoon" "romance" rumors 10 days after her divorce was announced.
You'd have to be blind not to see it with Jake and Kiki in those pics, they can't keep their lips off each other. :)
Jake and Kiki - Jake is so NEEDY he's like a lil boy. He WAS a lil boy. Still has not matured. He'll be fun to watch in Damn Yankees. With a good director, there's a lot of ambiguity and wierdness in Jake.
Luv between Jake and Kiki? Oh c'mon gimme a break! I will not bore you with what I was like in my 20s.
Actors/artists arent SUPPOSED to be homebodies/breeders.
All of this oh how Jake loves kids and etcetc is total bullshit.
Wake up America!
Jeeeeze!
"I believe Jake and Kirsten were real as well, but there are people who have convinced themselves that Jake is strictly gay, so they will never admit to anything that may point to the contrary."
Jake fucking Kiki doesn't make him straight nor bi - just closeted gay.
"It's kind of like the people who believe Brad and Angie are fake and someone else birthed their kids."
LOL, that's ridic. I think Brange love each other, but for sure have lots of problems as well. I hope for the kid's sake they stay together.
Jake fucking Kiki in his youth doesn't make him less gay.
I still feel a Will&Grace vibe between them,
although i'm not sure wich one is Grace and wich is Will....
In my twenties I was happily married, or so I thought. Married my high school sweetheart at 21 who I had been dating since I was 16, my only bf. We were madly, fiery in love, literally made me weak in the knees from my first kiss. So it is possible. Alas, he cheated on me and in my late twenties, we divorced. :(
(((1:55 PM)))
"Alas, he cheated on me and in my late twenties, we divorced. :("
Sorry to hear. :(
"although i'm not sure wich one is Grace and wich is Will...."
LOL
High school sweethearts always bite the dust at the end...
:(
Thanks 1:56 - the guy's a jerk! lol
Cheating isn't such a terrible thing,
domestic violence, that's something i would never endure,but i think i could forgive a one time cheater
True, but it wasn't in the cards for us. We married too young.
Regarding cheating: If the partner makes sure he uses condoms while cheating and tests himself afterwards and regrets the cheating, I think I'd forgive. But if he doesn't use condoms and gets a dangerous disease and contracts me, I'd kill him.
Fair enough! lol
The lying is worse than the actual doing it, I thought. You'd try to forget, but it would keep cropping up. Word to the wise - don't marry the guy who takes you to heaven in bed. Base it on something more substantial. ;)
"Fair enough! lol"
I know. ;)
"Word to the wise - don't marry the guy who takes you to heaven in bed. Base it on something more substantial. ;)"
Thanks for the advise. ;)
You people have something against good sex?
Noooooooooooo :)
Word to the wise - don't marry the guy who takes you to heaven in bed. /
I'll think about it.
A San Diego-area sixth-grader's report on slain gay rights leader Harvey Milk was not welcomed by the school's principal, the L.A. Times reports:
"Instead, the principal sent letters to parents giving them the option of not allowing their child to listen to the presentation by classmate Natalie Jones. Officials cited the district policy requiring that parents be notified before any classroom instruction about sex, AIDS or 'family life.' About half the class received permission and listened to the report, which was given during lunch hour rather than regular classroom time like other students' reports, the ACLU said...The ACLU of San Diego and Imperial counties asserts that officials misinterpreted the district's policy on sex education and, in the process, violated Natalie's free speech rights. The group has given the Ramona Unified School District five days to respond or face a possible lawsuit."
Said Jones' mother: “This whole thing is unbelievable – first my daughter got called into the principal’s office as if she were in some kind of trouble, and then they treated her presentation like it was something icky. Harvey Milk was an elected official in this state and an important person in history. To say my daughter’s presentation is ‘sex education’ because Harvey Milk happened to be gay is completely wrong.”
The Mt. Woodson Elementary School student reportedly learned of Milk after seeing the Gus van Sant-directed film.
Towleroad
:( Terrible.
"Word to the wise - don't marry the guy who takes you to heaven in bed. /
I'll think about it."
O god Im getting so hawt thinking about it!
LOL - well that can't be the only thing. :) He was brilliant, an experienced lover and looked like, let's call him a poor woman's Heath Ledger. ;) But only Heath is Heath.
But only Heath is Heath. /
True that. I bet Heath was very good "down under". ;)
^^No wonder Heath's women looked at him like "you were so good to me last night". Begs the question why Jake looked at him like that. LOL. ;)
:)
You can all me crazy, but maybe Reese isn't completely over her babydaddy yet?x
She's not.
Who agrees that Michelle seems to have amazing chemistry with Ryan Gosling?
making out
^^She and Ryan supposedly had a little thing going after she and Heath broke up. If you believe tabloids that is. ;) I think they'd make a cute couple. Sorry Spike Jonze!
I think Ryan Gosling is a very good actor but ugly.
^^I think he's sexy. :D
She and Ryan supposedly had a little thing going after she and Heath broke up. If you believe tabloids that is. ;) I think they'd make a cute couple. Sorry Spike Jonze!
^^
It was just a lunch to discuss this movie that was filmed later because Heath died shortly after the meeting. She did date that Morrison guy, an indie director i think, when she split w/ Heath.
And Ryan is not very good looking but at least he is not as uly as Spike.
i'm sorry too,Spikey ;)
It was just a lunch to discuss this movie that was filmed later because Heath died shortly after the meeting. /
Seems tabloids made more out of it than it was. Not surprised.
"And Ryan is not very good looking but at least he is not as uly as Spike."
I think they're both ugly but I agree that Ryan is less so than Spike.
Shoot me. I'd like her to dump Spike (yawn) for Ryan. I did squee when I heard rumors they were dating (before Spike). Oh well...
^^ Actually most of, or all, of Michelle's boyfriends, except for Heath, weren't good looking at all or plain ugly. At least she's not superficial.
Shoot me. I'd like her to dump Spike (yawn) for Ryan. I did squee when I heard rumors they were dating (before Spike). Oh well... /
Who knows what will happen after the shooting... ;)
Ryan has a certain something; you need that, I would imagine, in HW, to set you above the pack of run-of-the mill good looking actors. ;)
I think Michelle goes for serious actors, and you can't get much better than Heath. I've heard Ryan is that way too, but I haven't seen anything of his, yet.
"Actually most of, or all, of Michelle's boyfriends, except for Heath, weren't good looking at all or plain ugly."
Maybe that’s why she looked so desperately in love with Heath. At least she got good genes for her kid.
"Ryan has a certain something; you need that, I would imagine, in HW, to set you above the pack of run-of-the mill good looking actors. ;)"
IA.
Matilda gets more beautiful every day. :)
Maybe that’s why she looked so desperately in love with Heath./
It crossed my mind too. ;)
At least she got good genes for her kid./
Matilda is too adorable for words. :)
Seems tabloids made more out of it than it was. Not surprised.
^^
Actually, they didn't. There were pic of her leaving the restaurant and the news was that she and Ryan were having a runion with the director of the movie. The title suggested it was a date just to catch the attention of the reader.
Media has been very nice towards Michelle, and now that Heath died, nobody dares to write nasty stories about her.
Spike won't last, i bet.
But,for now, she seems happy :)
Isn't it interesting that Reese, who I don't find that pretty, only had hot bf's like Marky Mark, Chris O'Donnell, Ryan and now (maybe, maybe not) Jake?
Chris O'Donnell??!!! When??!!!
That guy is cute, but such a bland actor!
Chris O'Donnell needed / wanted a beard, Marky Mark is yuck, Jake needed / wanted a beard, Ryan prefered other girls during his marriage.
And all boys who've had their share of gay rumours.
"Chris O'Donnell??!!! When??!!!"
Some time before Ryan:
pic
Chris is married since 1997 and has 5 kids now.
His gayness is cured! lol
Gay rumors were probably because Chris played Robin in Batman.
No, probably because Chris had sex with guys.
Oh, yeah, it's her! I would recognize that chin everywhere!
Thanks x the pic, 5:28
"No, probably because Chris had sex with guys."
Either they were false rumors, or he's bi or a closeted gay man (like there are many unfortunately). We can't know for sure.
don't even know how chris o'donnell is, will need to check on imdb before i even think about commenting.
Just to clarify Reese's first became a beard in the mid 90's. I went to Stanford with her and she found her then boyfriend getting a blowjob from another guy in a hollywood night club. She was devasted but stayed with him because she was just trying to get into acting. Her famous boyfriend was huge in the 90's. Now he is "happily" married and has 5 kids. She was a nightmare back then. Very cruel and condescending. She had only been in "Man on the Moon" but she acted like such a diva. Regardless, she cared so much about her image then I have no doubt that she is doing the same thing now.
http://www.gossiprocks.com/forum/blind-items/legend-toothy-tile-page56-3635.html
Well, he certainly "disappeared" from the industry.
The last thing i remember he did was the Hu-Ha movie of Al Pacino
"I went to Stanford with her and she found her then boyfriend getting a blowjob from another guy in a hollywood night club. She was devasted but stayed with him because she was just trying to get into acting."
If that's true, it must have been a shock for her to see that. But she still stayed with him, because he was big in the 90ies and maybe expected help.
Still there's no way to know if Chris experimented, liked both sexes or is gay as a goose. He seems to be a cheating dog though. His poor wife, if the story is true.
Just going to say, have now checked on old Chris on imdb and yes, his career has really hit the shitter (a little pointer, if your imdb bo hasn't been updated since 2004, count yourself as a has been). Not saying its anything to do with Reese, but doesn't Jake's recent career path have similar attributes.
Marky Mark: I guess his carrer is doing fine, for now.Let's not forget HW is a very competitive business. Isn't he married and has like 500 children too?
Chris O'Donnel: Indeed he is in the shitter, i find hard to believe he was "big" in the 90ies.
What an infamous decade...
Ryan's carrer: A few good parts but overshadowed by Chin,always
Jake's: Still too soon to know
"Isn't he married and has like 500 children too?"
I don't know if he's married, but he has a girl and 2 kids with her, a girl and a boy.
The Zachary and Adam Factor
Zachary Quinto and Adam Lambert are two of the country's hottest, most alive, most talented young men rising in the arts right now: Quinto as a young Spock in J.J. Abrams' Star Trek, and Lambert, in case you've been hiding under a rock the size of Paul Abdul's pill collection, as the most fiery contestant on American Idol in ages.
Indeed, Lambert very well may take the Idol crown from corn-fed dude Kris Allen tonight. Here's hoping! But look, here's the rub, as it were: Much has been whispered and gossiped and talked about regarding Quinto's and Lambert's sexualities. Are they gay or not? Do they have girlfriends or boyfriends? A money-paying public has the right to know, right?
Yes...and no.
I get Quinto's and Lambert's reticence completely. They want a damn chance to get their names out there, talent-wise, before hate-spewing Bill O'Reilly and his ilk start questioning whether or not guys like this should even be in the public eye. Jeez, it's no wonder folks don't want to come out, what with half of Fox News' viewership ready to tar and feather anybody they even half suspect of being gay! Thanks a lot, intolerant America.
AT
Reese - if she is dating Jake for real, maybe the reason she's waiting to tie the knot is because she's maybe not sure after all if her man is as straight or faithful as she thinks? Maybe she fears she'll catch him getting a bj from a man like with Chris O'Donnell (supposedly) or cheat on her with either boys or girls like Ryan (although I think Ryan just cheated with girls). Maybe she doesn't trust Jake enough?
Ryan knows Jake for a very long time, and Reese knew Jake is gay years before the showmance.
Was Jake really so open about being gay that everyone who knows him knows?
No, but the word gets around.
For example, one of the OMG posters said that he/she (can't remember) heard about Jake being gay from the friend who's paparazzi (and a lesbian):)
"Was Jake really so open about being gay that everyone who knows him knows?"
Jake's and Ryan's parents are/were friends, Jake said so in some entertainment show.
Jake and Ryan were in Stephen's movie Homegrown, 1997.
That Reeke kissing pic is the most unpassionate kiss I have ever seen. They don't even touch each other. Since none of the usual gossip sites have splashed the pic all over, we can be sure that it will be in next weeks US Reekely. The paps have been invited to every one of Reese's training sessions, so they knew full well the paps were there.
Of course they knew - the show was for the paps / tabloids / gossip sites :)
Johnny Depp To Be In Cannes Friday For Dr. Parnassus Premier
He will be present on the Croistte for out-of-competition presentation of the last film by Terry Gilliam, The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus.
I can almost understand how Reeke came to be. Jake wanting to distance the constant gay rumors away from him, Reese not wanting to look like Jennifer Anniston and get the constant pity. But, 2 years later, does Jake really think that being with Reese makes other guys envious of him? Because who would want to bang the Chin? All it does is make Jake look like a pussy whipped, mama's boy. Does he not realize this or is he totally oblivious? I do think though that by upping the PDA, that Jake is definitely committed to Reeke for the long run and that's to bad.
Johnny Depp Talks about The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
"Zachary Quinto and Adam Lambert are two of the country's hottest, most alive, most talented young men rising in the arts right now:"
Awww Jakey, wouldn't you love someone to say that about you? But never mind, you can go watch your beard play ball since you have nothing else to do!
I think Jake knows the bearding is not working but what else is he to do? If he breaks up with Reese he will have to find another beard because no one is interested in out of work Jake all on his lonesome. At least with a beard they can promote the 'romance'. The more famous the beard, the more publicity he gets.
ITA 7:47. Also, like one poster said before Jake would have to face the fury of Reese's fans and Ryan's fate (the bad! the douche! the loser! the cheating asshole!). Jake has no choice right now but to stay with his beard.
Anyone knows, Jake can dance?
Parody on male lingerie models and classical ballet
You Tube 1==
Some boy on boy action in the most unlikely classical ballet (ignore the silly song, imagine tchaikovsky)
You Tube 2
Hang on, before you write the poor lad off too soon, looks like Jakey was on a 'man-date' last night.
take me to the lakers without the chin
Lakers pic is from the last night?
Yes.
Who's the guy with Jake?
No idea :)
When I thought Jake was straight, I wanted him to be with Anne Hathaway. Now I think he's either gay or bi. If he's bearding with Reese, it is very disappointing after being in BBM. Ah Jake.
Hey, business is business, I can't change Hollywood rules.
Shut up, Jake.
"Imaginarium of Dr Parnassus" is getting pretty mixed reviews.
Mr. Terry Gilliam didn't have a hit since "12 Monkeys" in 1994, I was hoping Imaginarium brought back the good old Terry.
Doesn't matter, Heath was in some good movies and had some amazing performances. Imaginarium wasn't that important. :)
More Photos from Gilliam's The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
^^ Thanks for the link 7:18.
What is it with Gilliam, why don't critics like his movies?
We saw it this morning at Cannes and, it’s nice to say, the movie is a whimsical treat, a lot of fun, and probably makes just as much sense now as it would have if Ledger had been around to finish it.
It’s a sensational visual romp, recalling Gilliam’s best Monty Python work as well as his most successful movies.
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