Saturday 4 April 2009
Heath's Birthday
I remember a conversation with Robert Richardson, the Director of Photography on "Four Feathers": "Just make sure that the audience are able to look into Heath's eyes. They tell a story of ancient wisdom and all of humanity." Not an easy job for a DP when Heath would so easily break into an Australian crinkle and narrow his eyes, so that the point of light so carefully placed by the DP would search desperately for its subject! I used to tell Heath that he was an ancient soul in a youthful body and mind. That his struggle was between the ancient wisdom he carried in his soul and coming to terms with his youth.
That struggle showed and I - the 'brother from another mother' as he called me - embraced him at those moments.
I wish I was there to embrace him when he passed away. I was so close. But then, it was not meant to be.
Shekhar Kapur
Source: A friend remembers Heath Ledger on the one-year anniversary of his death, New York Daily News
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Happy Birthday, Darling!
Heath, Michelle and Matilda
black and white smiles
I can never decide if I think he was/is the most beautiful in Brokeback Mountain or Cassanova.
Happy smile
Happy Birthday, dear Heath.
Shakhar Kapur remembers Heath so well. I really love his comments. Yes, it still hurst, and the the emptiness now that he's gone still glares as much as ever, as well as his talent when I watch his films, and even tho we've come to terms with it, I still ask myself why. What a gorgeous picture of him. Thanks, Jackie! :)
BBMt smiles
^^Oh that's one of my favorite BBMt scenes - Jack is so happy that Ennis is free, when he gets to him it's like he wants to take him into the house and kiss and make love to him right then and there! But then his hopes are dashed, and his expression changes to one of such disappointment. Jake was gorgeous in that scene too, the expectation in those beautiful eyes, and licking his lips slightly. :)
Really not trying to open a can of worms here, but I just had a thought.
What would you think if you found out years later that Jake's pr wanted to put out a statement when Heath died but Jake wouldn't give permission? Is is possible that Jake's feelings went deeper than friendship, but were never expressed and now any possible chance of being able to express them was closed forever. He can't say what he really feels, but if he just puts out a more generic statement it would be a disservice to the depth of his feeling. So better to not say anything? Is it possible he was just a mess and really didn't want to deal with it?
I know people will bring up the photo op with the beard. But heres another thought concerning that too. Heath died on a Tuesday. Jake was on set, got the news and left that same day. From Tuesday until the pictures surfaced (was it Friday or Saturday?), I remember reading news reports asking where he was because nobody seemed to know. Tributes and new reports were coming from everwhere and nobody knew where he was. It seems melodramatic now, but I was reading through people's thoughts at the DC forum, and some were expressing genuine concern because no one seemed to know where Jake was.
Then the pictures surfaced. So if nothing else you knew he was still alive. Now I am also wondering if his team was being bombarded with questions regarding his whereabouts and since he wasn't going to talk this would be a way to signal that he was still around ( and of course show that he was getting support from the girlfriend). Or is it possible the chin arranged this because pr told her that his silence wasn't looking good, and she and they suggested the park walk with Jake just going along because he didn't really care at that moment. I just remember the man looking beat down in those photos.
Then a few weeks later, I recall a small blurb in the back of the National Enquirer saying that friends of Jake were urging him to get grief counseling.
So anyway, I am just wondering if Heath's life and death may not have messed up Jake's head and heart in ways we may never know.
Good observation/theory, 9:06. I would agree 100% with the last part EXCEPT for the fact that solo Jake was also papped, before the park outing the same day, getting coffee. And he looked a little surprised but his face reflected business as usual, absolutely fine, not sad or devastated at all. So what would explain that?
That "theory" sounds like on on press release. It is too late, Jake and pr can't change history.
I would agree 100% with the last part EXCEPT for the fact that solo Jake was also papped, before the park outing the same day...
No, it was a day after the park phot op. To me Jake does look sad.
Jan 2008
9:30, pics are not dated the exact day they are taken. If you look closely you'll see Jake is wearing the same clothes, hat, etc as the park pics. They were taken the same day.
"Jan 2008"
his nose and the area around it are visibly red...
What would you think if you found out years later that Jake's pr wanted to put out a statement when Heath died but Jake wouldn't give permission?
I'm sure Jake wouldn't let PR prepare and make a statement on his behalf. That would be the worst.
He can't say what he really feels, but if he just puts out a more generic statement it would be a disservice to the depth of his feeling. So better to not say anything? Is it possible he was just a mess and really didn't want to deal with it?
This is entirely possible.
Those pap pics four days later; I'm not sure what to think about them. There's a time to step back - Reeke doesn't seem to know how to stay out of the spotlight. If you are going to step back, step back entirely - it just made me think it was set up by their people to make us see Reese as his "supportive" gf in his grief, kinda opportunistic, but maybe I interpreted it wrong.
You are right.
Even if Jake appears to be wearing the same clothes in both the coffee run and the park pics they may not have been taken the same day. I remeber them as being on different days. He does look as if he was surprised in the coffee pic. I think he was caught by surprise. But he still looks sad to me. I remember seeing a pic of Naomi Watts from that Saturday at a grocery store, and she looked so sad.
I have always wondered if she was still in love with Heath even though she had moved on.
"I'm sure Jake wouldn't let PR prepare and make a statement on his behalf."
Whut? That's what PR is for, what they get paid to do. And if Jake was so grief-stricken, then he wasn't in the mode to prepare and make a statement, period. It was a time for PR's clear heads to prevail but they didn't. Someone fucked up, majorly.
Well 10:00 if you want to believe those pics were on 2 separate days then that's your prerogative. I guess you also believe all the dates of the pics from last week too.
I agree that's pr's job. But, pr could make up all the statements they want, they still need permission to release them. If Jake said no, they couldn't.
I don't think they would have tried to put something out there without his permission.
I don't know if someone fucked up. I think it all comes back to Jake, and he couldn't deal with it for whatever reason.
I have always wondered if she was still in love with Heath even though she had moved on.
I don't know, but sometimes when someone who was extremely important to you dies, it brings it all back, all the good memories, not so much the bad. Plus, he was probably still a friend, was a fellow actor, and an Australian compatriot. I'm sure it was difficult for her, even tho she had moved on. I think a partner has to understand this, and take a back seat.
Heath and skateboarding friends
"they still need permission to release them"
Where in PR doctrine does it state this, what is your source, are you going by information/mis-information/assumptions that you heard somewhere? A person pays PR to represent them and to take care of matters, not to run to them every time something needs to be done and ask for permission.
Jake's PR people work for Jake. They can suggest, but can't issue any statement on Jake's behalf without his permission.
10:47 is correct. They cannot issue a statement without Jake's permission. Remember it was several days before a statement was issued on Michelle's behalf. Again, they had to wait until she was ready to make a statement.
A person pays PR to represent them and to take care of matters, not to run to them every time something needs to be done and ask for permission.
Heath's death wasn't just a little matter or just another rumor that needs addressing. I don’t know where you got your info from, but his PR can't issue a statement on Jake’s behalf without his permission, especially for something like this.
Happy Birthday! :)
Sunny day
^^ Sexy. :)
BBMt movie set
^ that's seriously cute. Awwww, Jakey ;)
A person pays PR to represent them and to take care of matters, not to run to them every time something needs to be done and ask for permission.
For making statements that "every day" is a very rare occasion.
As far as I remember, there was "Jake doesn't date Austin" denial, and one or two Reeke denials. Anything else?
What exactly is jake looking at in that set pic at 11:45? He doesn't seem to be looking at Heath's face. Or is it just the angle that makes it look off?
Heath's lap.
Isn't that pic from the Brokeback DVD? Is that the one where Jake said he relied on Heath to not let him look foolish or get hurt? I think too Heath said something about how easy Jake was on the set and there was no competition in him which I thought was odd because I had heard about his behavior on the Jarhead set where suppossedly got into it with one of the other actors on set. And Jake saying something about being very aggressive and competitive.
Have I gotten all of this wrong or was he just more submissive with Heath ( more beta to Heath's alpha)?
I'm a lover, not a fighter.
Isn't that pic from the Brokeback DVD?
Must be, it's a screen capture, not a photo.
All of that pent up sexual frustration must have been tough especially since Jake was stuck in Canada. At least if Austin was nearby, he would have at least gotten the benefit of that.
I've never seen that pic before. Jake had it bad.
P.S. Smoked deer prepared by Chris ;)
Oops!
How's your ass?
Aww, poor Jake, he didn't have anyone to kiss it better!
Kiss my ass!
Have I gotten all of this wrong or was he just more submissive with Heath ( more beta to Heath's alpha)?
I don't think you've got it wrong at all. I think it's normal behavior when you’re crushing hard on someone.
This is how CNN covered the events:
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What does this say to you?
I don't know CNN's thinking on the day, whether those clips and stills were readily available, whether they wanted to present a Heath who looked normal versus the Heath from Venice while promoting INT who looked a little disheveled and quite frankly, not quite there.
What does it say to YOU, 1:41?
"What does this say to you?"
That Jake and his PR fucked up. Let's face it, if they hadn't, we would not be having this discussion.
It's a lot of Jake in that CNN coverage! They treated it as if Jake were Heath's widow or something.
Look what the pictures they choose to use in their coverage. Big blue eyes as if crying. Jake was probably upset by being so closely linked with Heath.
So he disappeared for a while.
I think Jake felt like his secret was out for everybody to see.
Jake was probably upset by being so closely linked with Heath.
So he disappeared for a while.
Oh, please.
The only reason there was such an interest in Jake was because he was Heath's co-star in his most important film at that time, and because he is Matilda's godfather (real or not, the media believed it). If Heath had died, say after TDK came out, I'm sure Christian Bale would've been linked to Heath, not Jake. That’s the way of the media, always looking for drama and sensationalism.
I bet Jake's extremely poor and shabby public handling (no statement issued) of Heath's death is the top reason why he is on the outside of Hollywood right now, it's not the bearding so much as it was his avoidance to issue a diplomatic statement and the way he treated the matter, in a park walk photo op with his beard and looky here, he wore stripes as an homage to Heath! (as if that was enough) that caused his peers to lose respect for him. You can see the confidence he's lost, and the way people ignored him when he started talking, in his Golden Globe presentation.
Kiss my ass!
What, again? God, you are insatiable!
Chris is a moron. Roadkill deer and squirrels indeed. God, how gross.
Thank you for beautiful picture on Heath's birthday - April tears -
This is how CNN covered the events
Thanks for the CNN screen captures, I had no idea.
""What does this say to you?"
That Jake and his PR fucked up. Let's face it, if they hadn't, we would not be having this discussion."
It says to me that thanks-be-to-PR nobody's having this discussion but us.
It was the only move that could have been made that would have un-linked Jake to Heath - for the sake of his so-called career -
Do we really expect celebs not to protect their careers?
"What does this say to you?"
I was not aware of the CNN coverage. what does it say to me? that it was reported JG was "devastated" -
Why must more be said? Are we as fans hungry hungry hippos or what?
In all due respect (not really) to those who keep harping on this.
2:28 PM,
Did you see 1:41 PM screen caps?
Jake and PR can not un-link Jake's career from BBMt and Heath.
"Did you see 1:41 PM screen caps?
Jake and PR can not un-link Jake's career from BBMt and Heath."
Sorry, but it's already happened; we're the only ones who are the least interested. And we're presently being bored to death by Life and Career of Jake G and so we won't be caring much longer about his career, past present and future.
"Chris is a moron. Roadkill deer and squirrels indeed. God, how gross."
"The Sheep" speakin', I take it. You girls sure got spooked by Chris showing up on Brokeback.
Sorry, but it's already happened; we're the only ones who are the least interested.
Those are two different things - Jake losing fans, and media and public linking Jake and his career to BBMt and Heath.
We like a little scrambled brokeback oysters alongside our elk jerky.
*pisses in the cilantro"
My puptent smells like sheep piss!
Shit!
Remembah don't be gettin near dat road when them boys be drivin crazy in dat truck, one at the wheel with eyez rolled up back o'hiz head and de other one bobbin hiz face up and down in hiss lap, dat's how our poor bambi got runned ovah and fried up by dat nice boy Chris, got it?
No more beans! We need pancetta, porcini mushrooms, Yukon Gold potatoes, organic eggs, extra virgin olive oil, gruyere cheese, ...
Poor Bambi.
Don't drive and blow!
BBMt movie set - Heath, Jake(?) and dogs
The dog in back is planning the other one's demise.
"Jake said...
No more beans! We need pancetta, porcini mushrooms, etc."
Calm down, Hollywood. We cook local in the mountains: - one sheep nose-to-tail delivers legs, chops, stew, tripe, liver, heart, brains, ovaries. . . ummm - flavor with columbine. . . (sheep pissed in the cilantro)
FUCK!
Wut the hel is Astroglide?
Just another word for "salsa aoili", amigo.
Yes, they were indelibly linked by the press for life. And Jake felt exposed for his secret crush.
"Yes, they were indelibly linked by the press for life."
Linked for life in the minds of some fans.
4:21, evelyn is that you? You should have been fired long time ago.
"And Jake felt exposed for his secret crush."
And it's all Heath's fault because he died and Jake's 2005/2006 pics with him in BBM and BBM promos were seen all over the world. Damn Heath, the nerve of the guy to die and have people see those pics again.
Linked for life in the minds of some fans.
No, linked for life by the press, media, general public.
Nothing to do with our "what really went on between Jake and Heath" speculations.
What about me?
I want a piece of that publicity.
^^^ Don't. Keep the bitch out.
They will always be indelibly linked. If Heath had died after TDK, then the crew of TDK would have been as well, not that they aren't, and they sure stepped up to the plate, didn't they. Even Maggie did, and was quite good, being there for Michelle and Matilda (although I did read the account of that in the rags, so you never know). I never saw the CNN reports; what it tells me is that Jake was devasted, of course he would be. It's only natural, whether he and Heath were lovers, whether it was an unrequited crush on Jake's part, or if they were good friends, which I think was the case. Who cares why? It doesn't hurt any less, I don't think. Beautiful pictures, Anon. 1:41. That first one is one of my favorites of Jake as Jack. :)
You thought it was enough of publicity statement that you wore a striped shirt for our Reeke park photo op a week after Heath died, NOW you decide you want more?
What about me?
The pic is hilarious. Reese looks way older in the pic than she is.
If Heath had died after TDK, then the crew of TDK would have been as well, not that they aren't, and they sure stepped up to the plate, didn't they.
Don't get me wrong, The Dark Night is a great movie, Heath was incredible in it, but TDN can't be compared with BBMt.
BBMt isn't just a great movie, BBMt touched people's hearts.
^^^ The Dark Knight ^ TDK
This doesn't change a thing. There was no clean statement coming from Jake or his publicist, CNN only repeated what was editorialized by "people.com".
We know the way people dot com reports the stories, i.e. "a friend says", "an acquiantance suggested" etc.
Reeke & Company was probably waiting for the cause of death before deciding whether to release a statement on Heath. You know, in case it was from heroin or sexual asphyxiation or something unspeakably awful that would reflect badly on Jake (note: Reese) and his affiliation with Heath. I'm sure Reese didn't want to risk tarnishing the Reeke brand with a drugged-up, sexually perverted lowlife scumbag (even if it was the case with Heath, can't say I see Reese as ever being sympathetic, publicly or privately). So when the toxicology report took too long, by the time it came out and the COD was determined to be an accidental lethal combination of legally prescribed medications, it was too late (and too obvious, duh) for Jake (i.e. Reeke) to make a statement.
^^I totally agree with you - I always suspected it might have less to do with a relationship with Jake and Heath, and more to do with the circumstances surrounding his death and Miss Squeaky Clean's image. But now it must be ok, because she's befriended RDJ. :(
"This doesn't change a thing. There was no clean statement coming from Jake or his publicist"
Exactly. Three simple sentences: "I am shocked and saddened by Heath Ledger's sudden and untimely death. He was a great actor, a great man, a doting father and a wonderful, dear friend. My thoughts and prayers are with his family, his daughter Matilda and his loved ones." THREE SIMPLE SENTENCES, so simple I could (and did) write them, in 2 minutes, me a non-PR person. What the fuck was so complicated for Jake to "approve" from his PR?
Don't get me wrong, The Dark Night is a great movie, Heath was incredible in it, but TDN can't be compared with BBMt.
BBMt isn't just a great movie, BBMt touched people's hearts.
I agree, BBMt is an entirely different movie. But Heath's performance is so effing incredible in it, it really takes my breath away. The things he does with it, the way he modulates it and makes Joker so expressive ("This town deserves a better class of criminal, and I'm gonna give it to 'em & "When they don't need you anymore, they'll cast you out, like a leper"), just blows me away every time I see it. Everyone was incredible in it, CB, GO, MG, MC, MF, everyone brought out the best in each others' performances. I could just cry that we won't see Heath as The Joker again, the best and sexiest I've ever seen. I don't know whose idea it was to make him a bit reptilian in looks, and the makeup and dress, and the way Heath carried himself, was outrageously good. The voice most of all.
^^Sorry, that should read: "But Heath's performance is so effing incredible in TDK, it really takes my breath away. The things he does with his voice, the way he modulates it and makes Joker so expressive. Not only reptilian in looks, but in his cold-blooded heart too. I love him! :)
What the fuck was so complicated for Jake to "approve" from his PR?
That would be very disrespectful. Tell it from the heart or keep silent.
Now I'm changing my mind a bit; if you can't even talk about it, it must be extremely painful. At the time, I just didn't believe that. I wanted to know that everyone loved Heath, everyone possible.
Pretty Boys And The Puppies Who Love Them
Thanks to the tipster who directed us to the tumblr "Cute and Cuter." Pictures of "cute boys with other cute stuff" is exactly what we need to end this week.
Cute and Cuter, April 1 - Heath
Cute and Cuter, April 2 - Jake
jezebel.com
Awwwww . . . so, so sweet! ;)
[I]n the Magic Kingdom, it’s always about them. A guy dies and they need publicists to fend off reporters because they are in their trailers coping or because they might say the wrong thing. The whole publicity apparatus kicked in as if this were an event to manage.
The [author] made more than 20 calls, and in every case the response was some version of “tut-tut, much too raw, there-will-be-statements-in-the-future.” Maybe other reporters had better luck, but the firm no’s the [author] got told him plenty. This young man of 28, had one shot at a textured story about his humanity and his gifts. As it is, he will show up in the papers as a guy in bed with pills strewn about. (Jan.23, 2008, NYT)
link
^^^
To say that Ledger was not one for press is a major understatement, but he was consistently polite and gracious. And he could be funny, as when he and his co-star Jake Gyllenhaal joked their way through the nomination of Ang Lee, “Brokeback’s” director, at the Golden Globes.
Thank you for that link 6:55.
after a death it is incumbent upon us to bring the dead to life, however briefly. And [I] can think of no other industry that would avoid the death of one of its own in quite the same way as this incessantly self-seeking, self-involved community that really is not one. Everyone will wait for the televised tribute when they can read off the prompter.
And Jake, guess what, you're one of them.
This young man of 28, had one shot at a textured story about his humanity and his gifts. As it is, he will show up in the papers as a guy in bed with pills strewn about.
Exactly. That's why I think Heath's family and close pals appreciated and contributed in paying tributes to him. If we didn't get all the tributes, many would have thought he didn't have that many friends and was nothing but a loser druggie. In reality his good sides far outweighed the bad ones. And people close to him or who respected him made sure the public knew that.
A guy dies and they need publicists to fend off reporters because they are in their trailers coping or because they might say the wrong thing.
This is so wrong.
How can anyone complain about not getting a statement from a person coping with the loss?
If I remember correctly, Michelle too was on the movie set when Heath died.
Ang Lee:
Do you remember where you were when you got the news that Heath died?
I was landing at the Tokyo airport when I got an email from James. Heath died during my flight. That’s always strange to think about.
What is your favorite memory of him?
It also happens to be one of my favorite shots of my career: his “barfing” scene in Brokeback, when he was hitting the wall with his fists. We were on the third take, his fists were bleeding, he’d literally spilled all his guts, and something in the background struck me as being perfect. I think it was the clouds. I wanted to do another take, but Heath was totally exhausted. My producer said, “That’s bullshit. The actor has had enough.” But the clouds were perfect! We did another take, and after it was over, Heath said, “Wow. That felt good.”
Ang Lee
If I remember correctly, Michelle too was on the movie set when Heath died.
Yes, she was in Sweden shooting Mammoth. IDK if she refused to comment right away, but she did pay tribute in Interview magazine along with another one of Heath's exes Naomi Watts.
Had to repost your comment, 7:16, it was perfect;
Exactly. That's why I think Heath's family and close pals appreciated and contributed in paying tributes to him. If we didn't get all the tributes, many would have thought he didn't have that many friends and was nothing but a loser druggie. In reality his good sides far outweighed the bad ones. And people close to him or who respected him made sure the public knew that.
And where was Jake? Too involved with self-pitying himself or too concerned with Reeke's image to let his PR contribute a nice statement? Sorry but I do not let him or his PR off the hook with this one. Jake is young and he isn't perfect but that has got to be one of the worst omissions he and the so-called people who care about/work for him, ever let him do, to not publicly acknowledge Heath's death since he and Jake were public people. And believe me it will not be forgotten here or in Hollywood.
And believe me it will not be forgotten here or in Hollywood."
You think Hollywood cares? That's such a soulless place--the only thing they care about in HW is how much your last film made (paraphrasing the famous Bette Davis quote). They don't care about anything there except money.
^^IA.
7:35 PM
Refused? How could Michelle comment right away? Everyone should be allowed to cry in peace.
Refused?
No, no, I said, I don't know if she refused to say something right away or not. I don't remember. But she did pay tribute in Interview magazine.
the only thing they care about in HW is how much your last film made (paraphrasing the famous Bette Davis quote). They don't care about anything there except money.
Then Jake is on shaky ground regardless.
7:50 PM
I was trying to say how rude and unconsidered it would be to ask Michelle for a statement so soon after she received the news.
7:50 PM
I was trying to say how rude and unconsidered it would be to ask Michelle for a statement so soon after she received the news.
Oh I see now. I wonder if they asked her about a statement right away? I wouldn't be surprised if they did.
We were on the third take, his fists were bleeding, he’d literally spilled all his guts, and something in the background struck me as being perfect. I think it was the clouds.
Clouds and God's tears in Heath's "barfing" scene:
BBMt God's tears I (marked)
BBMt God's tears II
BBMt God's tears III
^^ that's amazing, Heath was incredible in that scene. Poor Ennis, he was doomed already. This film will never stop affecting me, both Ennis and Jack feel so real.
7:50, 7:46, etc. (same person talking to itself)
Michelle made a statement a few days after the tragedy, the one about seeing Heath in Matilda, who was talking to the trees etc.
So it wasn't in a 'magazine' as you dumb fuck try to accredit the idea, just to make Jake look better.
It was a press release through her publicist Mara Bauxman (sp?), at the beginning of February.
“All that I can cling to is his presence inside her that reveals itself every day,” Williams, 27, said in a statement Friday, February 1. “His family and I watch Matilda as she whispers to trees, hugs animals and takes steps two at a time, and we know that he is with us still.”
8:30 PM, don't make me sing Kumbaya.
http://www.usmagazine.com/exclusive_michelle_williams_tells_matilda_daddy_went_away
Date of Michelle statement: Friday (Feb.1, 2008)
Clouds and God's tears in Heath's "barfing" scene
Teary cloud is a wonderful idea. I'm glad someone told me about it because I would never have noticed it on my own.
Beautiful pictures. BBMt is one of the top movies I have ever seen in my life. :)
From the day Jake received the news of Heath's death (Tuesday) until the park pictures (Friday or Saturday?), does anyone know where Jake was. He left that movie set that Tuesday, and I know media outlets were trying to find him. There were media reports of him being devastated, but not where he was.
Has it ever been determined where he went?
Into the arms and supervagina of wonderwoman Reese!
I think that we should all brace ourselves for the Reeke Family Spring Vacation. Schools will be close for spring break and Ryan is away filming, so you know we are going to get the spring break photo shoot for US Weekly. After the Reeke European Photo Op Tour, I'm sure the Reeke Family Spring Vacation will give us plenty of those "heartwarming and touching" shots of Reeke walking hand in hand in the sand and Jake playing with Deacon and Ava on the beach. Reeke PR's new promotion of Reeke are a settled couple who do things apart but spend quality time together is nauseating.
Has it ever been determined where he went?
According to GALA (one of the more respected/credible German gossip magazines) he went to Reese to spend time with her and the kids. (Probably until the L.A. memorial and then he probably went back to work.)
GALA reprinted US tabloid crap.
The only time Jake spent with the chin was that infamous photo op.
I think that we should all brace ourselves for the Reeke Family Spring Vacation. Schools will be close for spring break and Ryan is away filming, so you know we are going to get the spring break photo shoot for US Weekly. After the Reeke European Photo Op Tour, I'm sure the Reeke Family Spring Vacation will give us plenty of those "heartwarming and touching" shots of Reeke walking hand in hand in the sand and Jake playing with Deacon and Ava on the beach. Reeke PR's new promotion of Reeke are a settled couple who do things apart but spend quality time together is nauseating.
You know what, it doesn't bother me. They can do whatever they please. I think I speak for some others here too that it's just fun hanging out here and sometimes venting (;)).
There are some respectable gay people who came out who are in public life. Like one respected German politician and some people in show/fashion business. I'm confident that more and more will come out of the closet and that people won't stay as close-minded. I think films like BBM, that are not preachy, opened some people's eyes that love is love. I know people from my private life who's opinions towards homosexuality changed because of the film, believe it or not.
I won't wait for Jake Gyllenhaal to come out, who, in my opinion, is either a very confused individual regarding his sexuality or he is bi and all the ambiguousness was to increase his mystery, I wouln't put it past him. Jake wants to be part of the A-List, he loves dating women way more popular than he is. And I'm sorry to break it to some Jake fans, but Reese is much better known and popular than Jake world wide. This could change though. I think it's fun following him at the moment until I move on.
The only time Jake spent with the chin was that infamous photo op.
You speak as if you know it for a fact.
I speak as someone who saw all Reeke photo ops photos. Reese is more a business partner than a friend.
Spring break was this past week in CA. Jake and Reese have not been papped since last Saturday. If there were pics of them and the kids, we would have seen them already.
I remember a blogger sighting of Jake and Reese in Brentwood and they wondered why some press was saying he was on the set of Brothers when he recieved the news when he was clearly not. An extra postingon imdb said that when the news broke about Heath, only Toby and Natalie were on set, they asked if Jake was working that day and one of the crew said yes and that he was in his trailer but they say that they did not see him on the set for days.
The blog(with the Jake and Reese sighting) was deleted right after that. I think she mentioned that they were coming out of a Whole foods store and was smiling at some dogs as they walked out.
From the day Jake received the news of Heath's death (Tuesday) until the park pictures (Friday or Saturday?), does anyone know where Jake was.
I bet he was in his LA house, his home. Maybe Naomi and Austin were in LA too?
I remember a blogger sighting of Jake and Reese in Brentwood ...
That "sighting" was made up. It was about Jake and Reese walking hand in hand and laughing.
We read so many Reeke sightings, do you honestly believe all of them are made up?
One question, with whom does Reese have sex if she's just a beard for Jake? We hear nothing! She is a young and healthy woman. Does she only masturbate for years?
The Jake prostrate with grief storied did not hit the rage until AFTER the bearding w/kids park pics. The reaction to tat PR arranged photo o[ was incredibly negative, and that's putting it mildly,(the reaction over a year later hasn't dimmed), in true Reeke style, out come stories of how devastated Jake was/is about Heath's death, how friends, read Reese, were for his health, he left the Brothers set immediately, no, wait, he was too upset and just holed up in his trailer, you know the set where Jake hung up a pic of Heath as a *wink, wink* joke, and attending all those memorial services, even the one in Australia, to show his support and devotion to a former co-star.
All of that bullshit, panicked clean-up from the park pics. PR and Jake fucked up, and this is one former fan that will never forgive him for it. (Not that that is worth more than a warm bucket of spit on the free marke, I know, but it's my opinion, one thing that I am entitled to)
As to PR not making a move without a client's OK - remember Neil Patrick Harris, and his coming out? Seems his PR spokesperson released a statement denying the boyfriend without NPH's knowing. He later corrected the lie,a nd has lived a very happy, successful and open, life in HW. PR is there just for the specifc purpose - to take care of things their clients are just too darn busy shopping and coffee drinking to handle themselves.
Spin as much as you want, the facts will never change.
8:53 is right, the sightting was BS.
Did Jake not see Austin for 2 years? There's your answer 8.58.
Did Jake not see Austin for 2 years? There's your answer 8.58.
Who knows, maybe they didn't see each other for a while? Funny that after Austin went to jail for DUI there were no sightings or pics anymore. Maybe they went apart and then reconciled again. Who knows?
We read so many Reeke sightings, do you honestly believe all of them are made up?
Did you notice how very rare are bloger's Reeke sightings? People stopped making sightings up because Reeke stopped being interesting.
Jake being seen with Austin didn't fit in with Reeke. It was Reese and Reese alone and her kids...
Agree with 8.59
PS: The blog description of Jake cracking jokes at one of the memorial services with Reese was deleted as well. And he did say he attended one didn't he?
He was lying. How come both Jake and the chin attended Heath's public memorial and NEITHER ONE was paped coming or going when so many other celebs were photographed? Only one person saw them and then wrote on her LJ, right? Sorry but one must be downright stupid to believe that "report".
And he did say he attended one didn't he?
I don't know if you read the Ted and Lisa report, but Jake said he attended one of the L.A. memorials (if you believe these two guys (Ted and Lisa).
9:02 AM #2
Listen babbler,
you can kiss Reese's ass and believe in Reeke all you want, but please stop insulting our intelligence. Both sightings were made up - Jake and the chin did not laugh two days after and Jake did not crack jokes with the chin at the memorial.
How desperate someone like you must be to use such crap to sell Reeke?!?
That blogger sighting was at the farmer's market, not Whole Foods.
And it hit the morning after, or the next day. Thought at the time to be a pre-planned PR plant that was very quickly pulled when the reaction was horrible.
The memorial services - that one blogger sighting of Jake cracking jokes was the only mention of him attending any of the services. Not even the official write-up, the one that listed everyone else, even what they wore and drove off it, mentioned Jake or Reese there. And that's the one the actress turned catering server posted about. The professionals didn't them Reeke, but one lowly waiter did.
Right.
There're a lot of babblers here this morning trying to sell those BS sightings. Take your crap elsewhere!
9:18 AM, one believes these two clowns are dating for real and one is automatically a babbler. Please!
9:20 exactly
Why do they still get so nervous? You'd think they'd all have their own speculations to discuss at their own site. :)
Jake was conspicuously absent from Heath's memorials - and I won't believe he attended any unless a reliable source prints it, or he says it himself. That account by the waitress was ridiculous; no wonder it was pulled. Made the situation look even worse, cracking jokes.
There're a lot of babblers here this morning trying to sell those BS sightings.
I don't sell anything. I don't give a flying fuck about Reeke. I don't care if they are fucking or not, I just think they acted insensitive after a supposed friend of Jake's died. If they weren't close, Jake/Heath that is, Jake should have issued a statement (why not, if Heath was just a co-star). If they were close he and Chin should have had the decency and avoid photo ops (arranged or not) so soon after a "close" friend passed. That's why I'll always disrespect these two forever.
I agree, and if it is a bearding arrangement, I don't respect that either. So, for those two reasons, I can't stand them.
So, for those two reasons, I can't stand them.
ITA!
There are many, many married couples and seriously involved couples in HW - you don't see everything they do, every move they make, splashed all over gossip mags. Why is that? To bolster each of their careers, it's so painfully obvious. This is why I am skeptical, and of course, I'll never understand the Heath snub, even if they were no longer as close.
9:18 AM, one believes these two clowns are dating for real and one is automatically a babbler.
Yes, babblers believe Reeke is real.
Babblers who believe those two laughing and joking "sightings" must be desperate and crazy.
Jake lied to Ted and Lisa, he didn't attend any memorial service.
I suspect they knew he was lying as well. It would explain why it took them 2 months to write a post about a one hour lunch. Theyhad to make up shit and padded it with BS.
It makes you wonder. Do you guys remember how Matilda's godmother and friend of Michelle's Busy Phillips was one of the first to arrive to Michelle's house after the news broke? Naomi Watts left Sundance immediately to go to NYC for support. If Jake was really as close to them, like Jake claimed to Ted and Lisa, why didn't he go to support Michelle and Matilda? There was also a NYC memorial. Jake definitely didn't attend this one.
Jake was on the guest list for the Perth memorial, that's why some assumed he'll be there too. But the only celeb pals who attended were Kate Blanchett (heavily pregnant), Michelle Williams, which is understandable, she's the mom of H's only kid and Heath's current, rumored gf Gemma Ward. No Jake G. though.
It's very unusual that he didn't go.
Yes, babblers believe Reeke is real.
Babblers who believe those two laughing and joking "sightings" must be desperate and crazy.
You got me. I'm here to promote Reeke as a real couple. And the negative things I said about them, should avoid my promoting them seem to obvious. I'm busted.
Btw. real babblers don't believe this laughing and joking sightings at all. How would it look like if "perfect" Jake acted all selfish and like he doesn't give a fuck? Not too good. Hence they don't believe it.
The reports about Jake being devastated came out the same day and in the next few days after Heath's death. This was before the park pics because news organizations were reporting that they didn't know where he was, and all you were getting were reports from pr regarding his reactions. Please go back and look at the news reports. From everything I read during that time, he was on set that Tuesday, got the news, asked for a leave and left. No one saw him again until the following Thursday because he was scheduled to shoot a scene. He was on set Thursday, shot the scenes and then left again. The next time he was seen was in the park pics. As far as the sightings of him in Brentwood on Tuesday, I take those with a grain of salt. Remember that story about Jake buying the women's underwear in that shop in London when he was obviously here in the States.
As far as the funeral. I think people are getting the private memorial and the CAA sponsored memorial mixed up. Jake said he went to the private memorial. That's the one where the only celebrity that was specifically identified was Namoi Watts. The reporters weren't really able to get picture of all who went. They don't even know how many of Heath's family and friends were there. The family managed to keep that very private. There is no way to know everyone who attended that one. But I really have no reason to not believe Jake went to that one. I read the blogger report about him and Reese laughing. I've been to plenty of funeral, people talk quietly, they laught at funny stories or jokes - there is nothing unusual in that. I am not sure why anyone would get upset at reading that. I also read a report about him sobbing throughout the funeral. Who really knows. The CAA was the one where you saw all of the celebrities coming and going. That was the one with the picture of Ellen and Portia in the car.
We all have a right to be upset about whatever, but I am trying to make sure that I am upset about the right things. I don't think this was about pr. This was about Jake and how he handled his grief (and I do believe he grieved). I believe this is one time that pr did what he wanted because this was about Heath. The interesting mystery is why he chose to remain silent.
One thing I have always found interesting in this is that the few times that someone has asked Ted C. about Jake's behavior regarding Heath's death, Ted has been rather fierce in defending Jake. It makes me wonder if he knows something he isn't telling.
There are many, many married couples and seriously involved couples in HW - you don't see everything they do, every move they make, splashed all over gossip mags. Why is that? To bolster each of their careers, it's so painfully obvious.
Reeke use this relationship to promote themselves and their films. They are famewhores. I've said it before, this is more of a showmance than romance. I don't think it will last for too long.
I'm not sure if Jake has a brain. After 2 years of lurching from one Reeke mess to another, he's still doing what PR says!
9:45 AM
There is no reason to believe Jake cracked jokes with the chin at the VF party, but you want us to believe it is possible he did that at the memorial?!?
What is wrong with you?
It makes me wonder if he knows something he isn't telling.
He knows nothing.
Why wouldn't he crack jokes at the VF Party? It was after the Oscars, you are confused.
BTW: I don't believe he went to any memorial services
Jake probably went to one of the L.A. memorials. Was it the public one or the private one? Who knows. But he probably went to one. Why wouldn't he? He was in L.A. anyway.
Jake lied to Ted and Lisa, he didn't attend any memorial service.
I suspect they knew he was lying as well. It would explain why it took them 2 months to write a post about a one hour lunch. Theyhad to make up shit and padded it with BS.
ITA
Jake probably went to one of the L.A. memorials.
He didn't.
Ted already got burned about smearing Heath after he died, he wasn't going to risk the wrath again by bringing up why Jake didn't issue a statement. First of all he doesn't know squat about the situation and if he dared to make something up like my sources said or their mutual amigos as he usally does, that would mean that he would have to make something up that couldn't be backed up and although he does that, in this case it would be tacky even for Ted.
Why wouldn't he crack jokes at the VF Party? It was after the Oscars, you are confused.
Based on the pictures, Jake had a good time at the VF party, but not with the chin.
Suggesting that Jake might had a good time with the chin at the memorial is beyond ridiculous.
I've been to plenty of funeral, people talk quietly, they laugh at funny stories or jokes - there is nothing unusual in that.
Of course not, but I wouldn't put that as my only observation in an account of a memorial service or funeral. Is that all the person could say? It gives an insensitive impression.
Suggesting that Jake might had a good time with the chin at the memorial is beyond ridiculous.
It was said he cracked jokes, but not with her.
The "sighting" was about Reeke having a good time at the memorial.
It said that Jake craked joker and then both laughed.
^ jokes
Jake didn't go to any memorial so the sightings were BS and he lied to Ted and Lisa.
It said that Jake craked joker and then both laughed.
Oh well, there's no way to know if that's true or not.
Yes, there is a way to know if that's true or not, just use your common sense.
Common sense tells me nobody could be that bad. :)
There was no official list of the people who attended the first private memorial in LA. There will never be a way to verify all of the people who attended that service. This was the service Jake was referring to with Ted and Lisa, not CAA. I don't believe Ted and Lisa made anything up. As for why it took two months, well, it's called real life.
I have no reason not to believe Jake attended that service. As far as why he issued no statement, my speculation goes back to his feelings about Heath. I think he has always been a mess, emotionally, about Heath. And I think all of his love, lust, confusion and maybe even anger (at Heath for dying, at himself for not being able to cope) got played out during his time. Maybe he was just a mess, didn't know how to deal with it and just didn't. Give some bland pr statement when Heath deserved so much more, I don't think so. Can't really tell the truth of how you feel, not possible. So just keep quiet and cope as best you can.
I just hope he has had someone to talk through all of this stuff. But I just get the feeling that his real feelings are going to be locked up inside for a long time to come.
Reese would never be invited to the private memorial.
We would have reports about Reeke or Jake attending other memorials.
The sighting was made up, there is no question about it.
9:49 I'm not sure if Jake has a brain. After 2 years of lurching from one Reeke mess to another, he's still doing what PR says!
I am the best!
There was no official list of the people who attended the first private memorial in LA.
Yes, there is a possibility that Jake attended private memorial.
The private memorial was held in L.A. on Saturday, January 26th 2008. Two celeb pals attended for sure, Heath's ex ladies Michelle and Naomi. According to Babbler's in Gyllenbabble Jake and Russell Crowe, who was a friend of Heath's, attended too.
reports about private memorial
I wonder if the hiking pics were taken before or after the memorial.
Notice, Jake wears a purple hat and Reese a striped pullover. For Jake fans not too familiar with Heath, Heath used to regularly wear his purple beanie and striped shirts, pullovers etc.
Hiking
^^The pics were taken Jan 26th, but I don't know before or after the memorial (if he attended).
reports about private memorial
It says there were about 15 people at the private memorial, probably family and very, very close friends of Heath's. Why would Jake be there? He was neither.
Notice, Jake wears a purple hat and Reese a striped pullover. For Jake fans not too familiar with Heath, Heath used to regularly wear his purple beanie and striped shirts, pullovers etc.
Excuse me while I'm shedding a tear here for the "touching" gesture. (barf)
10:23 AM, the truth is we don't know what Jake felt/still feels for Heath. It's all pure speculation or even wishful thinking in some fan's cases.
The sighting was made up, there is no question about it.
Wasn't the "cracking jokes" sighting during the public memorial, not the private?
Those "reports" about the first private memorial have no way of knowing who was there unless a list was released to the press. No such list was made public. As far as the family not inviting Reese, we don't know if they would have or not. If they invited Jake, then they probably would have expected him to come with Reese since she is considered his girlfriend. That's not unusual.
In the hiking pics following Heath's death, Jake was wearing a jacket. How could you see what he had on underneath?
11:01 AM are you fucking serious? Why the hell would Heath's family invite Reese when the memorial was only for a handful of people? Are you really that stupid?
Not to a private memorial - family and invited individuals only. It's not a party.
I don't think Jake or Reese were doing some kind of "shout out" to Heath in the clothing choice.
Now later, I think it was in Paris, Jake did wear a thickly striped shirt and a beanie. I did think that was a very atypical clothing choice for him and very much like something Heath would wear. But I am not going to say it was a conscious choice or some kind of "shout out." That's the kind of delusional stuff that they get into at OMG.
In the hiking pics following Heath's death, Jake was wearing a jacket. How could you see what he had on underneath?
You can not see what he was wearing underneath, but he was wearing a purple hat and Reese is wearing a striped pullover.
11:01 AM
More reeking bullshit. You can't be serious.
Only people very close to Heath were on the private memorial.
11:06, how do you know how many people were invited to the private memorial? Jake is Matilda's godfather. He would have been invited. The question is whether Reese would have gone as well. I don't know if she did or did not, but I would not be surprised if she were extended an invite as a courtesy to Jake (she would be considered his girlfriend, not just some random person).
Babblers, go away! Heath's family doesn't give a flying fuck about Reese.
11:07, you are making assumptions like I am. You don't know who was invited. Only the family would determine that. This is not about liking or promoting Reeke which is what you imply. That is silly. All I am saying is that I would not be surprised if Reese was at the private memorial for the reasons I have stated.
Like I said, I would expect Jake to be there; he is Matilda's godfather. I don't know if Reese would have been there or not. I don't understand why the idea that she may have been there bothers you so much. Maybe she was; maybe she wasn't.
Yes, 11:10 AM / 11:15 AM is really that stupid and clueless.
That was over a year ago - if she was his "girlfriend", that doesn't give any special privilege - they hadn't been together that long then. A married couple or partners are considered a social unit, not a gf or bf. Only those very close to someone should be able to share in the grief of his loss at a private memorial.
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