Saturday, 4 April 2009
Heath's Birthday
I remember a conversation with Robert Richardson, the Director of Photography on "Four Feathers": "Just make sure that the audience are able to look into Heath's eyes. They tell a story of ancient wisdom and all of humanity." Not an easy job for a DP when Heath would so easily break into an Australian crinkle and narrow his eyes, so that the point of light so carefully placed by the DP would search desperately for its subject! I used to tell Heath that he was an ancient soul in a youthful body and mind. That his struggle was between the ancient wisdom he carried in his soul and coming to terms with his youth.
That struggle showed and I - the 'brother from another mother' as he called me - embraced him at those moments.
I wish I was there to embrace him when he passed away. I was so close. But then, it was not meant to be.
Shekhar Kapur
Source: A friend remembers Heath Ledger on the one-year anniversary of his death, New York Daily News
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 1627 Newer› Newest»When they started BBM Jake was with Kirsten Dunst. He broke up with her during TDAT promo. Then some months later he hooked up with Kiki again before he broke up for good winter 2005.
Yeah, he and Jake fucked than came Michelle and Jake's poor heart was broken. Right!
It's so comfortable accusing Heath of being a bad, homophobic asshole.
It's not silly and I can post e-mails and posting on locked LJ's including Ted who went to that luncheon last year, talk about fan fic. Fan fic/gossip all the same.
Stop projecting. BBMt fans know the difference between fan fic and gossip.
I love Ted. :)
Let's say Heath was a nasty, homophobic ass and hated Jake and wanted to distance himself from him and BBM. Then I have a few questions.
First, why did Jake seem to like him so much, if Heath avoided him?
Second, why did Heath make him godfather (even if it was "just" a symbolic gesture)? Why has Todd Hayness (the openly gay director of I'm Not There) such a high opinion of Heath? Or why was Heath a good friend of the gay singer Michael Stipe?
I'm honestly curious, not wanting to start a fight, really.
I love Ted. :)
What did he say? Can you spill?
His latest BV -
9:25: No they don't. Funny Jake supposedly broke up with Drunkst during TDAT promo, but there are photos of them together after that on IHJ,from june until the end of the year, even a set of pics with his Mom.
9:25: No they don't. Funny Jake supposedly broke up with Drunkst during TDAT promo, but there are photos of them together after that on IHJ,from june until the end of the year, even a set of pics with his Mom.
True, I always found that weird.
Why weird? Kiki and Jake were more friends than gf and bf.
^^So why don't they hang out now?
I think Jake did something that pissed her off.
9:25: No they don't.
Yes, BBMt fans do know the difference between fan fic and gossip.
Looks like you are the one with the problem.
When was the fighting incident between Kiki and Jake? Was it during TDAT promo? Because that couldn't have been it what pissed her that of, because some time after BBM shoot we have pics of her and Jake looking quite friendly.
Oh really? A little revionist history, eh? So Maggie hooked them up in 2002, his PR lied about them breaking up in 2004 because there are pics of them as pointed out and they were clearly together, then in Feb. of 2005 they supposedly got together at some Oscar party over the objections of Maggie who had a falling out the Drunkst.
I think it was explained that Jake and Drunkst pretended to breakup so the paps would leave them alone bu that made no sense since they appeared at places where the pasp hung out.
Idon't think they broke up then but his people wanted him to break up with her because the drug rumors grew louder and was tarnishing him, he also hung around with her party crowd pas then as well.
It would explain Maggies objection although you woud think she would have known since she was friends with Drunkst before she started dating Jake.
Kiki attended the BBM Venice FF premiere. She and Jake were together then according to Anne Hathaway. Kiki and Jake were also at the same time in Toront during FF, he for BBM and Proof and she for Elisabethtown with loser Bloom.
Jake and Kiki "got back together" was just publicity, I bet they were over long before Winter 2005.
Bottom Line is, most gay men hated Heath because they thought he was a homophobe and avoided Jake.
Jake was the cute, closeted gay (according to Ted), who had this huge crush on Heath who didn't giva a shit about him. "Poor, good" Jake against "homophobe who doesn't care about BBM and gay fans" Heath.
Who would win? ;)
Sometimes truth is not that simple.
Idon't think they broke up then but his people wanted him to break up with her because the drug rumors grew louder and was tarnishing him, he also hung around with her party crowd pas then as well.
No one cared about Kiki's drug rumors - not in 2005, not in 2008.
I'm sure Jake's people did everything to keep Jake and Kiki "together" as long as possible - they know their client is gay.
No one cared about Kiki's drug rumors - not in 2005, not in 2008.
Not true.
Jake didn't do anything to piss off Jake, if anything it was the other way around: Kiki got hooked on smack, shot it between her toes. All the whispers in HW about her became louder and made it difficult for to secure roles. Kiki was tarnished now in Jake's and his PR. He "reunited" with her in '05 to suit his own image, didn't matter that seh was now officially hooked, when it got real bad, he dumped her for good at the end of 2005.
When Jake and kiki started dating she was known as an a-list actress and spidermans gf who liked toparty, drink and do pot on occassion, all safe at the time for Jake and his PR. Junkie Kiki was a no-no and he even named her on his list to blame when he was whining in early '06 when Heath was getting all the praise and Jarhead bombed. He was saying that Kiki "dragged" him down.
Why would Jake's PR spread rumors they broke up, but we see them in pics lovey dovey? Doesn't make sense. I think they broke up for a short time during TDAT promo, but shortly after, hence after BBM shoot, they hooked back up till they finished for good in winter of 2005 for whatever reason... Jake being gay, Drunkst's drug problems, or both...
Junkie Kiki was a no-no and he even named her on his list to blame when he was whining in early '06 when Heath was getting all the praise and Jarhead bombed. He was saying that Kiki "dragged" him down.
What list? Where did you read that?
Maybe Jake's nothing but a user. Used this silly druggie Drunkst when she was A-List and all doors open for her, to be seen with her. She even tried to secure him the Spidey part when Maguire refused to return.
Now he's with another A-lister who won an Oscar. Now that he saw how negative fans react to these two famewhores, he looks pissed most of the time. Didn't think it'll turn out like that Jakey, did you?
10:01: Oh yes people did care about the Kiki drug rumors going back to 2004, around the time they supposedly broke up. She was having a hard time getting insured for roles, managed to for Marie Antoinette, but kept low key after that and refused to go to rehab. Everyone in HW knew, just because you didn't red about in the rags or gossip blogs doesn't mean there wasn't concern. When you say nobody cared in 05/08 about Kiki's drug use, you are talking about people like you who follow gossi,industry people were/are very aware. They kept a lid on it for a while because she was A-list. Jake was living with her when she began shooting smack betwen her toes.
His PR may have wanted Jake to hooked up with any women, but Kiki was damaged goods in late 04-05 and wanted him away from her. Jake cared about Kiki and most likely ignored his PR at first and tried to help her by getting back together with her but he should have talked her into rehab instead.
At the end of '05 he finally listened to his PR and dumped her for good.
She is still isn't clean and is seen stumbling out of clubs.
Rumor has it that RDJ isn't clean either but he is more "quiet" about and looks stable, she doesn't.
Maybe Jake's nothing but a user.
There is a big difference.
Most of the time Jake looks like he doesn't want to be around the chin - it's been like that since Rome 2007.
There is a big difference.
Most of the time Jake looks like he doesn't want to be around the chin - it's been like that since Rome 2007.
Yeah, the difference is Drukst didn't need him, he needed to be seen with her, well until she became an addict. With Chin it's that both need each other, he her to prove he's straight, she him to prove she's still desirable after Phillippe dumped her pretentious lil ass.
^^Reeke hook up was very convenient for both.
DCF Jake thread, 13 pages in 6 days.
April 10, 2009 1:13 AM
And 76% of those were by Chuck and LG. Sad.
Chuck: 94
LG: 41
Lola and UV: 10
everybody else: 32
Kiki lobbied hard to get Jake for Spiderman 2 when Tobey "Hurt his back": drugs. He even auditioned for it, there was a video of it and it was posted on IHJ for 2 seconds before the studio made them remove it.
When Drunkst went into rehab for "depression",she made a public apology to Toby, it wasn't specific. Some though that it had to do with Toby and Kiki dating breifly during the filming of Spiderman 1 and something she did to him then, but most think it was because she was pushing for Jake at a time when Tobey was trying to clean up his act.
Tobey and Jake seem to be Ok now making Brothers together and such but at the time bet Tobey was pissed.
The Jake list was actually a mention by Lainey when she wrote about pissy/whiny Jake during the awards season in '06.
He was pissed at his people for not pushing him and jarheadharder, he was really dissapointed that it didn't take off as he had hoped although that had nothing to do with his PR. He was also said to be pissed at Ted for making people thik he was TT and pissed at Kiki for dragging him down. I assume he meant the drug rumors were now starting to taint him but he was the one that tried to reunite with him against his PR's wishes.
Lola and UV: 10
Lola and UV - move your lazy asses!
When was the fighting incident between Kiki and Jake?
April 10, 2009 9:52 AM
At one time, IHJ had photos of him crying with her. I think it was after a lunch.
From a vague recollection, I'd say they walked around a corner, stood against a wall, he was leaning over her as if to kiss. Next he's crying.
It was intrusive, but there you go.
IHJ had photos
Had - as photos aren't there any more or as I saw photos in IHJ gallery?
Depending on the date of the crying pictures it could have been around the time his Uncle died which would have been around May/June of 2005. At a book reading on MV with his father, some described Jake near tears when his father read the poem about the Uncle that passed away.
Those pics suggest someone upset, not argueing or fighting.
I forgot to add that Lainey was also upset that Heath was getting all the praise for BBM.
I forgot to add that Lainey was also upset that Heath was getting all the praise for BBM.
That's because she hated him. She thought he was a philanderer and druggie.
The crying pics were at the time of Toothy's arrest blind item. Some speculated that it had to do with him being caught.
"That's because she hated him. She thought he was a philanderer and druggie."
Lainey's a stupid bitch. Cunt.
The Jake list was actually a mention by Lainey when she wrote about pissy/whiny Jake during the awards season in '06.
I see.
Jake never said anything about Kiki "dragging" him down, "the list" was made up by Lainey.
Lainey's a stupid bitch. Cunt.
IA.
I see.
Jake never said anything about Kiki "dragging" him down, "the list" was made up by Lainey.
Lainey is an annoying bitch, but she writes about gossip like Ted C. You can either believe them or not.
Kiki lobbied hard to get Jake for Spiderman 2 when Tobey "Hurt his back": drugs.
Tobey and drugs? "Hurt his back" = Tobey in rehab?
"Depending on the date of the crying pictures it could have been around the time his Uncle died which would have been around May/June of 2005. At a book reading on MV with his father, some described Jake near tears when his father read the poem about the Uncle that passed away."
I didn't know that!!!!
Tobey and Jake seem to be Ok now making Brothers together and such but at the time bet Tobey was pissed.
I understand why Tobey might have been pissed off with Kiki, but there was no reason for him to be pissed off with Jake - Tobey has himself, his weak back or his greed to blame for putting studio in position to look for a new Spiderman.
Didn't Tobey and Jake fight for the makeup artist? And word was there was competition for popularity with the cast and crew between them on set of Brothers.
It was a Star magazine "story" :)
Defamer-Gawker posted Ted’s latest blind item and they added an ed. note mentioning Jake:
Ever since Judas Jack-Off made his smarmy debut, I do think it's fair to say Toothy Tile's [Ed. Note: 'Toothy Tile' is widely believed to be Jake Gyllenhaal] been breathing a tad easier...
Defamer-Gawker
10:38am That should be that Jake was pissed that Heath was getting praise for BBM, not Lainey. That was supposedly the many thingsJake was whining about during awards season according to Lainey.
Re: Defamer/Gawker:Both sites ID'd Jake as TT back in May/June of 2005
Which sensual singer tells his girlfriends that although he's straight, he still receives oral pleasure from other men - then fumes when they suggest he's bisexual? [Gatecrasher]
"It sucked when I was goin' into the jail, and once I got in jail it became enjoyable again because there were some real fun cellmates. We were singin' songs."
— Matthew McConaughey on being busted for possession of mary jane back in 1999. [Men's Journal via MSNBC Scoop]
^^^ LOL!
"Re: Defamer/Gawker:Both sites ID'd Jake as TT back in May/June of 2005"
Yeah it's not the first time they mention TT as Jake!
But They are not believers , well I remember they said it.
Am I the only one who has noticed that whenever Ted C. mentions Toothy in any blind vice, he always references Toothy's activities with the "girlfriend." I find it just a little odd that he has made no reference lately to Toothy's boyfriend or any kind of engagement with the boyfriend except that last story about the "confidentiality agreements." I am beginning to wonder if there's something going on with Jake and Austin and Ted's not telling. Or maybe Ted doesn't really know anymore the state of things between Jake and Austin
which is why we no longer get any stories about them.
And in that account about Austin at the jury pool, I doubt seriously that women was confusing poor hygiene with ripped clothes. She was just not that impressed with Austin's looks. She wrote of the ripped clothes and the poor hygiene. Maybe Austin was just in a poor state that day. I don't understand why some would find that so hard to believe.
My open plea. Could you keep up this post for a while longer. I just want to be able to stare at that ungodly gorgeous picture of Heath for as long as possible.
Poor Jake. I could just imagine him closing his eyes and imagining Heath while fucking someone else, even now.
And in that account about Austin at the jury pool, I doubt seriously that women was confusing poor hygiene with ripped clothes.
I think she did - check out her additional comments:
Austin's jury duty
"I am beginning to wonder if there's something going on with Jake and Austin and Ted's not telling. Or maybe Ted doesn't really know anymore the state of things between Jake and Austin
which is why we no longer get any stories about them."
I hardly see Ted telling us everything is fine in Jaustin planet, it's likely not the case.
"Poor Jake. I could just imagine him closing his eyes and imagining Heath while fucking someone else, even now."
If only!!
My open plea. Could you keep up this post for a while longer. I just want to be able to stare at that ungodly gorgeous picture of Heath for as long as possible.
I second that emotion - maybe we could have a permanent post for Heath somewhere on the blog. Sigh.
There are a lot of pics and descriptions of encounters with Austin during the past weeks and he looks very happy and perfectly fine. I think the jury duty blogger is definitely confusing ripped clothes with poor hygiene.
Poor Jake. I could just imagine him closing his eyes and imagining Heath while fucking someone else, even now.
Me too and who could blame him? I bet he found the Joker hot, Maggie thought he was sexy too.
To the person who posted further back about Kiki still stumbling out of clubs. It's been mentioned on other sites she actually has a girlfriend. Does anybody know if this is true?
I have often wondered about the amount of "male" stories put out about her. You hear nothing about her for ages and then the only thing to report is she's "dating" or "cozy" with some guy she's been seen standing next to. People think she's goes through a lot of guys but does she? Or is it just her people covering up for the fct she ain't dating any guy right now?
I read she had a gf and they live together. :)
Btw, I don't believe Heath was in the leats homophobic. Reading btwn the lines I'd say he might have been more scared of his own closet skeletons.
He just didn't like the press andalways said the worng things. Nerves, frustration, discomfort, drugs high or low, who knows. Gifted but messed up as hell, and anything you read about him will be projected through different people saying different things.
I just put a big question mark over him and leave it at that. Save to say he was basically likeable.
^ Sorry for the shitty spelling and failure to spellcheck.
I bet he found the Joker hot, Maggie thought he was sexy too.
Oh, he is. Did Magge say that? :)
Did Magge say that?
Yeah, she said Heath made a sexy Joker.
:) The best ever.
The rumor is that Kiki is definitely dating this girl who is often photographed with her.
There is also a rumor that Natalie Portman is dating a girl too.
If this is true then, all of Jake's beards end up with girls! ;)
I don't think Heath was messed up. He was extremely shy. He once said that people would ask him why he would be so uncomfortable in interviews, and he responded that he was shy. And he couldn't understand why other people couldn't understand that.
I agree he was beautiful and gifted. I had always hoped that given time ( and I am one of those who believe that he and Jake were friends) he could have played a part in drawing Jake into a more creative approach to acting and life. I think Jake adored him and had great respect for him. You could see that Heath was reconstituting his life and was preparing to take off in so many interesting directions: the work with the Masses, his directing, even going for the grand master level in chess, as well as his acting choices. I can't think of any other actor of Jake's generation who could have been more inspirational. There certainly isn't anyone like that the Jake knows currently. I think Heath might have been the mentor that Jake could use.
Yeah it's not the first time they mention TT as Jake!
But They are not believers , well I remember they said it.
Yeah, it said "it's widely believed", it doesn't say if the author believes it too.
Beautiful post, 1:11. Heath had so many wonderful, creative things going on in his life. He's terribly missed.
"I think Heath might have been the mentor that Jake could use."
I think both followed separate ways and I doubt Jake would have considered him as a "mentor"
But 12:12, I thought the recent bike pics with Jake and Austin was supposed to be the evidence that Jake and Austin are still together and everything is fine. Unless I read you wrong, you seem to think that there is a possibility that Jake and Austin may not be as secure as some want to think. But if that's true, why wouldn't Ted report that. He's reported on their problems in the past.
I myself am not as sure about the implications of the bike pics as others. I don't think it was a pr slip. I am inclined to think that Jake and Austin aren't together as lovers anymore, so it's now okay to see a picture of them, but pr knows that Jake has a set of fans that believe that he and Austin are lovers and the pics are a way to throw them a bone, while still focusing on the main campaign of making Jake straight for the general public. Even when Ted posted the pics, he made no kind of veiled references to Jake's preference for men or that Austin was more than a "friend." Which I thought was odd.
If Heath had gone on to direct, maybe he could have cast Jake in one of his films and gone on to become the director/mentor to Jake that some actors are blessed to have. He sure would have been a better influence on Jake than the current Hollywood/LA crowd that Jake current hangs with. Jake just does not appear to have seized control of his creative life the way Heath had.
Heath was the sun. Jake was just one of the many moons that circled him. Poor Jake just couldn't figure out a way to get closer without being burned up.
If Heath had gone on to direct, maybe he could have cast Jake in one of his films and gone on to become the director/mentor to Jake that some actors are blessed to have.
They'd have made a great team, I'm sure. I like Jake as an actor and I like Heath's music vids (I think he would have become a good director), so I'm confident they'd have worked well together.
Since Heath acted with Jake, he may have had a better handle on how to utilize him as an actor. And I think Jake would have been so happy to be with Heath, there would have been no conflicts or complaints.
^^The there would be accusations, Jake only got the job because he slept with the director. J/K. ;)
But don't you see 2:18, the controversy and publicity would have sent people to the theatres in droves. And it wouldn't have been too serious because of Heath's history as a womanizer. Plus I am sure Jake would have his beard tightly with him.
But the circus created would have been fun.
But the circus created would have been fun.
Oh definitely.
Of course, Toothy went so far back into the proverbial closet, I think the only heavy panting T.T. ever does anymore is when he and the GF moon over Pottery Barn chenille throws together.
Couple of observations/questions for y'all:
1. Why does Ted say GF not beard, or put GF in parentheses ("GF") to imply it's a sham?
2. "the only heavy panting T.T. ever does anymore" - is TT/Jake is going asexual? It's odd. It's not like Ted said "in public", meaning thet the sex in outdoor places has been curtailed, Ted is almost saying sex altogether has ceased.
Or is it my imagination and I'm reading too much into his words?
GF = Goose Friend?
"Heath was the sun. Jake was just one of the many moons that circled him. Poor Jake just couldn't figure out a way to get closer without being burned up"
It seemed Jake hasn't circled around the sun long time!
In fact it seems "The many moons" have let the sun die without one glimpse!
The sun wasn't pure, too spoiled by well... you know!
I think at the end of his life the only things cicled around this poor sun was drugs syringes and one of the Olsen sister.
^ lol, you have no idea what you're talking about.
"GF = Goose Friend?"
Odd to say "friend" for GG !!!
"2. "the only heavy panting T.T. ever does anymore" - is TT/Jake is going asexual? It's odd. It's not like Ted said "in public", meaning thet the sex in outdoor places has been curtailed, Ted is almost saying sex altogether has ceased."
I don't get this part !! does he really say there is no sex anymore?
"^ lol, you have no idea what you're talking about."
I think you have no idea too
^ lol
It seemed Jake hasn't circled around the sun long time!
In fact it seems "The many moons" have let the sun die without one glimpse!
The sun wasn't pure, too spoiled by well... you know!
I think at the end of his life the only things cicled around this poor sun was drugs syringes and one of the Olsen sister.
To be fair to his family and friends, we don't know if they tried to help or not. We can't just assume they didn't.
Also whether he abused the pills he was on or whether he used them for problems he actually really had, we can not know. "Syringers"? I don't think so! He didn't inject anything he mixed 6 pills which he swallowed. MKO was probably just an acquaintance he ment in one of the clubs he went to.
Jake does seem to be adrift.
The guy had issues. When you take those meds you're obviously not right.
I don't know for he family and friends but I doubt they were with him when he needed.
Even when Ted posted the pics, he made no kind of veiled references to Jake's preference for men or that Austin was more than a "friend." Which I thought was odd.
Yes, he did: Jake’s Secure Sexuality Poll: The Results!
You guys simply must have big-chinned, dreamy-eyed babies on the brain. Your dedication to keep Gyllenspoon alive showed in our poll results, since your fave way for Jakey-poo to show the world he's secure in his sexuality was to walk his Wither-hon down the aisle—in a ceremony planned by himself, no less!
Is it too late to add choice E: bike ride with his best male bud for all to gawk at? That certainly takes more guts than saying I do to your conveniently arranged arm candy, doncha think?
Too subtle for some, huh?
"12:51 The rumor is that Kiki is definitely dating this girl who is often photographed with her."
Yes, Kiki was papp'd at some airport arriving and getting into Alexandra Sagan's car where they kissed (that's her friend's name according to DCF)
Kiki wants publicity, Lohan style.
The post was titled "Kiki's lady luck" or smth like that and was deleted from the net, can't find it.
Let's try to get this straight. Heath did not mix the drugs together and take them. They were not all taken at the same time. There were only traces of 6 pills found in his system. That is part of what caused the problem. Some of the drugs had been in his blood stream for at least 24 hours. People don't often realize that drugs can stay in your system for such long periods of time. So you can be mixing drugs that could kill you in combination and not even realize it. These same sort of mistakes kill thousands of people every year.
The pills found in his system were for the treatment of his back pain, insomnia and anxiety attacks. Heath lived alone. Did you expect his family and friends to live with him and monitor what he was taking? Heath died from the mix of prescription drugs. It was an accident. There were no illegal drugs found in his system or around him. He may used Coke or other illegal stuff in the past, but it was the past. There was not evidence of any of that kind of use going on when he died. That was evident from the medical examiner's report.
I find it interesting that when some of you try to tarnish Heath you can't even get the basic information correct.
Drunkst is one gross idividual (old pic):
bloody feet?
3:20, referring to a best male bud, without using quotes, is part of what some of us are talking about. Ted was talking about how Jake can show everyone he is secure. People had talked about Jake being afraid to be seen in public with men because of the gay rumors. So going biking with a guy would be a way to show people that he isn't afraid. Pr was obviously okay with it. But Ted doesn't imply, or identify, that the guy with Jake is his boyfriend.
Referring to someone as Jake's best bud doesn't mean anything. Ted once used the same expression to describe Jake's relationship with Heath. I think 1:33 and 2:28 have a point. "GF" is not the sam as "beard." And that is definately a reference to Reese, not Grey Goose Austin.
GF
Girl Friend
girlfriend
Good Fight
Get fucked
Good friend, the opposite of SF(shity friend)
...
Re: Defamer/Gawker:Both sites ID'd Jake as TT back in May/June of 2005
Yeah it's not the first time they mention TT as Jake!
Posted on OMG by Destiny:
I know they said that back in 2005 and into 2006, I still think it is a bit different for them to id Jake as TT back then when they were running the blind items all the time and with everyone guessing Jake. It was in the air, so to speak. Saying it now like this out of the blue when there are probably new readers who don't know, and while Jake is bearding, just has a different tone to it, in my opinion.
Michelle, Matilda with her friend Dan Estabrook (he's an artist, also pretty cute but gay, so no threat for Spike ;)):
justjared
I'm 2:28. Sorry to bitch, but I asked a couple questions about Ted's latest mention of TT/Jake, and it's fucking annoying how most of you (besides 3:42, thanks btw) all ignore it and go back to discussing Heath and drugs, WTF? I thought this was a TT blog? I have no problem discussing Heath, Michelle, Anne, Austin, Chris, Atticus, Boo, DCF, Reese, bearding, gay rights, politics, etc. but when a new mention of TT comes out, in fact any slightest mention of TT that Ted makes, I don't think it's unrealistic for me to expect that people in a TT blog would want to talk about it. I DO want to discuss it, but obviously a TT item on a TT blog isn't important. When someone like me brings up points about a TT item, new or old, and asks questions about it, and most of you ignore it, it makes me really wonder why you are even here.
I personally am still here because I'm addicted to this place, first WFT now WFT2. My interest in TT isn't that huge anymore, because I believe TT won't come out anytime soon. And some of Ted's items made him less credible in my eyes anyway. I'm here to discuss a variety of things, mostly all things Jake, positive or negative.
4.09 PM, I posted the picture of Kiki's bloody feet and no one's responding. At least one person responded to you. Yup, I'm a tad pissed.
1. Why does Ted say GF not beard, or put GF in parentheses ("GF") to imply it's a sham?
Because GF could stand for girl friend + Ted did say TT is in the closet + Ted said TT is gay and bearding many times before + this BV is about closeted and bearding gay actor.
2. "the only heavy panting T.T. ever does anymore" - is TT/Jake is going asexual? It's odd. It's not like Ted said "in public", meaning thet the sex in outdoor places has been curtailed, Ted is almost saying sex altogether has ceased
I think Ted is saying that TT keeps a very low (gay) profile.
I posted the picture of Kiki's bloody feet and no one's responding. At least one person responded to you. Yup, I'm a tad pissed.
Aww, don't be like that, we appreciate all posts and blue links.
4:19: "My interest in TT isn't that huge anymore" "I'm here to discuss a variety of things, mostly all things Jake"
Jake and TT are 2 separate people?
Kiki is a junkie, rehab didn't work. She has been on smack for years and also while she was with Jake. In the beggining it didn't effect her work and the whispers were low-key and Jake wasn't "tarnished" with it. After awile when it became obvious Kiki had a "problem" and Jake'sPR went into panic and released a statement in '04 that they had broken up.
They stil continued to see each other off and on until late '05 when evn Jake admitted that she was a "problem".
Kiki's bloddy feet are signs of her shooting up, i guess she ran out of places between her toes to shoot.
Kiki is a puzzle, known to like to party, do drugs, not bath and can be bitchy was also described as generous and, funny and nice.
Aww, don't be like that, we appreciate all posts and blue links.
Good to know. ;)
Kiki is a puzzle, known to like to party, do drugs, not bath and can be bitchy was also described as generous and, funny and nice.
Maybe she had mood swings because of the drugs? It's likely.
4:23, sorry I didn't see your pic after I posted. I've seen it before though when it came out. I always wondered if she was in a crowded place/bar (it was during a premiere party) and someone (maybe her?!) spilled or dropped a glass of red wine on the floor and it splattered. Thanks for the pic. It's easy to forget that it takes time to find something and do the damn ahref"< linking. Sorry about that.
Michelle, Matilda with her friend Dan Estabrook (he's an artist, also pretty cute but gay, so no threat for Spike ;)):
I know Michelle doesn't like paparazzi, but it's great to see Matilda smiling and being playful around different people.
"My open plea. Could you keep up this post for a while longer. I just want to be able to stare at that ungodly gorgeous picture of Heath for as long as possible.
I second that emotion - maybe we could have a permanent post for Heath somewhere on the blog. Sigh."
Don't you people have picture files, for goddsake? It makes me cry to see a photo of Heath every time I come here and my eyes are so swollen up I can hardly see.
Ya must be griefmongers or somethin' Let the poor bloke RIP, and the rest of us, too.
(Every Heathen now cries: we will never cease with our weepin' and wailin' and you cant make us.) Right. Zzzzzzzzz. . . .
It's easy to forget that it takes time to find something and do the damn ahref"< linking. Sorry about that.
Thanks for the response. Yes, creating a link here takes some time as we all know.
Back to the picture, I remember seeing Kiki get out of a car with bloody feet. People were speculating it's either spilled wine or blood.
I also want to say that this isn't the first time I have brought up TT questions/topics before and 9 out of 10 times they get ignored and lost in the non-TT/off-topic comments. Maybe 2 people might respond, then it's off to a flurry of Heath/godfather/Clooney/whatever arguments. Also, it's pretty sad when a Cantara/Babble troll gets more responses than a TT'er does about a TT issue on a TT blog. Maybe some of you need to think about that, just saying.
Let the poor bloke RIP, and the rest of us, too.
What? You want to rest in peace?
We will discuss Heath as long as we want and as long as we are allowed. Scroll past if you don't like it.
I get that the Heath topic is tiring for fans who want to discuss Jake/TT here, but what can you do, when obviously some people bring him up all the time. Jackie can't forbid it, can she?
Dear Ted:
Which couple will break up first: Toothy Tile and his beard or Toothy and his boyfriend, Grey Goose? And I don't believe Toothy is in love with Goose anymore, but it's a convenient relationship...for Toothy.
—L
Dear Chipped Tooth:
If Toothy has it both ways, then he'll have his beard for the long haul with a little Goose on the side. We don't think G.G. can up and leave him.
AT
Dear Ted:
I just saw this headline on Huffington Post and thought it was blogworthy, especially on your blog: "Gay Families Invited to White House Easter Event." While I'm not gay, I believe in love and am proud of this step our president has made. Now if only California can follow in the same direction as Vermont, Connecticut and Iowa (Iowa!) and legalize gay marriage. All the best to you and your family. I really enjoy your column—keep up the great work!
—Lola
Dear Hunting for Homos:
But where's our new prez's modern stance on gay marriage, then?
WFT2 is for TT and all things related, discussing Heath falls into that category. I don't think keeping his memory alive is not allowing him to rest in peace, just the opposite. Scroll on by-yyye! *waves*
If Toothy has it both ways, then he'll have his beard for the long haul with a little Goose on the side.
So, Jake is perfectly fine with the situation and we can expect Reeke to go on and on.
Frankly, I think Jake is fucking Reese and Austin. He has 3 movies coming out, one of them an almost certain blockbuster. His life ain't that bad I think, since I think he probably swings both ways.
5:05 PM, it has always been like that. Some consecutive Heath posts and protests arise. I'm used to it.
I read that answer from Ted, but now I am really curious. Ted does not contradict the letter writer's assertion that the relationship between Jake and Austin is one of convenience for Jake. He could have said something like Jake couldn't let go of Austin because he's madly in love and is just bearding for his career. His heart belongs to Grey Goose, etc., etc. But he didn't.
It also sounds as if Jake is in more control of this situation than some of us thought. I wonder why Austin can't just up and leave him. Please don't tell me it's because of Baby Tile. I don't buy that. Even if a kid existed, people pick up their kids and leave relationships everyday. Is it possbile that Austin is in love and that's why he stays, but Jake isn't.
one of them an almost certain blockbuster.
We'll see about that, for now things don't looks too good with POP.
If his life ain't that bad why does he look so miserable most of the time?
I wonder why Austin can't just up and leave him.
If Jake really has a sexual relationship with Austin, maybe Jake is a good fuck and that's why Austin stays? And maybe non of them take it too seriously? Ever heard of the term fuckbuddies? Could be they're just that.
If his life ain't that bad why does he look so miserable most of the time?
Could be many reasons we don't know of.
5:20, you don't understand. Jake and Austin are supposed to be that ONE TRUE PAIRING. True love. Going through some rough time, but always devoted to each other. Together forever.
Please don't introduce reality.
^ LOL, fanfic is much better isn't it. ;)
I have always said that Jake and Reese are friends. There is no "contract." They will continue this relationship for as long as they think it necessary. I don't think Jake is "miserable." I just think some of you project that because it makes you feel better.
If Austin is actually supposed to be Jake's partner, I wonder how many more years he is willing to be kept hidden away like a dirty secret? Does the man have no pride?
Please don't introduce reality.
Now I'll sound like this weird "se" girl that bashes Reese and Jake in every post on JustJared how immoral they are etc... I think many Hollywood stars don't take monogamy too seriously, many of them are bi and even if they are in a relationship, if they have the opportunity to nail someone they want, they do it. And they have lots of opportunities, a lot of good looking, charismatic and willing folks are in the business.
"WFT2 is for TT and all things related,"
No, WFT2 has primarily turned into all things related to TT - but not about TT - then when everyone gets bored for 5 minutes maybe a couple comments about TT .
Where else can someone go to discuss TT? I would think people here would welcome and encourage in depth discussions and be dissecting Ted's TT BVs and little tidbits not ignore them or discourage inquiries.
Or maybe if commenters like 4:09-4:54 only get 2 responses to the TT questions then it would make sense that it means there's only about 4 people posting here. Yeah maybe that's it, there's only 4 or 5 TT believers, and lets face it, if the number of people who believe is that low then TT must be a sham.
Austin's daily bread (employment) depends on him being straight, yes or no?
Then you know what to expect: he'll never come out.
Does the man have no pride?
Puhlease, look at him! This guy is a Z lister, he's probably glad someone like Jake gives him the time of day. (If they are in a "romantic" relationship that is.)
Austin's daily bread (employment) depends on him being straight, yes or no?
Then you know what to expect: he'll never come out.
He's Z list, no one fucking cares about his sexual orientation. His "career" will be over in a few years.
"Puhlease, look at him! This guy is a Z lister, he's probably glad someone like Jake gives him the time of day. "
ITA.
^ me too
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Then tell, what do you think?
Jake is the best thing that ever happened to Austin. I am sure Austin will hang on for as long as he can. What else has he got?
I am curious about Jake. If he's not in love with Austin but sticks with him for the convience of the sex, do you think he will dump him if he ever meets someone who really set him on fire.
Maybe Heath, the sequel (only gay Heath this time).
Or maybe if commenters like 4:09-4:54 only get 2 responses to the TT questions then it would make sense that it means there's only about 4 people posting here. Yeah maybe that's it, there's only 4 or 5 TT believers, and lets face it, if the number of people who believe is that low then TT must be a sham.
You still need evidence that Jake = TT ?
We love Ted, we love his TT posts, but I think there is nothing new in his today's posts.
"I don't think Jake is "miserable." I just think some of you project that because it makes you feel better."
Yeah in all the pics where we see Jake frowning and miserable (see the last 2 car pic sets), he's really happy and has a beaming, I'm-so-much-in-love-with-Reese smile. I must have registered for the Miserable IHJ media site, damn.
If he's not in love with Austin but sticks with him for the convience of the sex, do you think he will dump him if he ever meets someone who really set him on fire.
Maybe Heath, the sequel (only gay Heath this time).
I think Jake likes convenience. He is used to Austin, trusts him. I don't know if he'd move on from him that quickly, unless a gay version of Heath turns up. But that probably won't happen anytime soon.
5:57 PM, well Ted said Jake wants Reeke to continue, that's why I think it can't be that bad.
This guy is a Z lister, he's probably glad someone like Jake gives him the time of day.
Do you think Will Smith is better than Jake because he's A lister?
I just read some of the posts over at OMG. They are trying their best to make " little goose on the side" sound like some kind of reference to Baby Tile. A "lttle on the side" is a sexual reference. Ted answered a question about two relationships. There is nothing in the question or the answer that refers to any child.
I know OMG is supposed to be devoted to Jake and Austin, but I don't understand the need to torturously misconstrue pretty plain english.
I am not trying to bash OMG, but I don't understanding the thinking. Am I that off base?
Am I that off base?
No. OMG posters are like Babblers: Delusional and far away from reality.
No, WFT2 has primarily turned into all things related to TT - but not about TT - then when everyone gets bored for 5 minutes maybe a couple comments about TT .
We discuss Jake/Toothy Tile all the time.
Ted is No 1, but there are other info and gossip sources and we are capable of making our own minds.
6:05 PM you're not off base. While I believe Jake is gay and bearding with the Chin (thats why Im here), I never bought the big Jaustin love story. Oh please!! Sorry to say but there’s far too much fan fic at OMG, Id rather stick with WFT2. I love this place.
6:05 and 6:08 I disagree. Ted could have said GG when he said 'on the side,' but he didn't. Also, why would he say LITTLE Goose if he meant Austin? Wouldn't he say a Big Goose on the side? He said a little Goose, which strongly implies an offspring.
I also resent 6:08 remark about OMG posters being delusional. I read (and endure) all the slash posts here about Heath/Jake fantasies, Jake/Michelle, Jake/George Clooney, whatever, and have no need to bash. Please respect other opinions, no need to call people delusional.
I also resent 6:08 remark about OMG posters being delusional. I read (and endure) all the slash posts here about Heath/Jake fantasies, Jake/Michelle, Jake/George Clooney, whatever, and have no need to bash. Please respect other opinions, no need to call people delusional.
LOL. Heath/Jake "fantasies" get bashed all the time here.
Reese and kids at softball game:
softball
One major difference between WFT2 and OMG is they NEVER bash us. Ever. Maybe we should return the favor.
"Reese and kids at softball game:"
Bullshit. Reese is starting a new movie where she plays in a softball team. This was no game, it was pure PR. She was getting coached and practicing for the role and took the 2 kiddies along for the ride. Oh and the paps just happened to be there at a UCLA softball field. The pig farm must be getting remodeled.
One major difference between WFT2 and OMG is they NEVER bash us. Ever. Maybe we should return the favor.
^^ Yes ITA good point, thank you. Also there's a lot of people who post both here and at OMG (like me). Bashers are only cutting thier nose off IMO.
One major difference between WFT2 and OMG is they NEVER bash us. Ever. Maybe we should return the favor.
I don't know why OMG is even brought up here? They can believe and discuss whatever they want. :)
6:42 PM, what a surprise, Reese is a PR whore.
I bet the kids have been stuck in Brentwood all week while The Chin gets ready for her next role and parades around with RDJ and Gwyneth. I thought for a minute before I opened the pictures that the kids were actually getting to do something for themselves and she managed to tear herself away and attend one of their events. But no.
The chin paraded only with Jake and her girl friends.
Well the paps had no problem finding the UCLA track and field when he had photo ops with Austin, Matthew Frost and Ryan in 2006!
She wore a special anti-magnetic catcher's mask so that when the ball was thrown to her it wouldn't gravitate to her chin and start revolving around it on its axis.
Jake and Reese are both PR whores. Though Reese seems much worse.
One major difference between WFT2 and OMG is they NEVER bash us.
Be nice to our OMG friends :)
^^ITA
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^^MichaelK will nominate his Boo for Hottest Man Over 40. :)
Sooo, should we vote for bearding homophobic Jake or ignore the asshole?
MichaelK will nominate his Boo for Hottest Man Over 40. :)
Michael K voted like crazy - Anderson Cooper was No 9 last year!
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From a now defunct gossip list called the A-list, last updated 2004:
Phillippe, Ryan. Used to be gay for pay. Pot-head. Linked with Reese Witherspoon via marriage; she reportedly does not treat him well, and he returns the favor by chasing other women. Shares a hooker with Rick Fox, the husband of Vanessa Williams
That's what TR (OMG insider) said - Reese used to put Ryan down in front of other people.
That gossip is from 2004, that information about them was well known and gossiped about way back then, don't need to be an insider to know that. Ryan and Reese's problems were well known then including putting him down in front of people, and his cheating.
The pot use is not new, I heard it before but the gay for pay is new. I wonder if it was back when he started on OLTL, that soap opera. The headwriter was openly gay and the story was that guys had to go through his casting couch.
Ryan went right from his parents house to One Life to Live and then to Hollywood TV pilots, guest starring roles and TV movies before he got into regular movies. I sincerely doubt his "gay for pay" days are anything more than fantasy. Although I would believe the hooker and the bitchy wife part.
With so many incredibly hot out gay men - John Barrowman, Cheynne Jackson, NPH, etc. - why would anyone waste a vote on Reese's BF?
6:18, are you trying to tell us that you have never heard the expression, "a little something on the side"? That has always been a reference to a secondary affair outside of the primary one. Ted was using the same expression. He was not referring to a baby.
Some of you need to take those blinders off. Also, in using that expression, Ted is implying that Reeke (sexual or otherwise) is Jake's primary relationship and that Austin is, and always will be, no more than the used half of a secondary relationship for Jake.
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S. Gyllenhaal directed Ryan in Homegrown in 1998 which also Jake was in. Ryan and Reese were togehter a year already and living together.
The gay for pay gossip was around Ryan in the beggining, but "dissappeared" when Reese became pregnant and they got married.
In 2005 there were photos floating around the net which appeared to be Ryan and a White party in FL, it looked like him and he was wearing a wedding ring in the pics. The picture was debunked becasue the man in the pic looked taller, the picture was posted on DL and other places.
There were always rumors of Ryan cheating with skanky women but the gay stuff used to pop up as well.
Yes, and John B was "thrilled" to be under Jake last year.
Also, in using that expression, Ted is implying that Reeke (sexual or otherwise) is Jake's primary relationship and that Austin is, and always will be, no more than the used half of a secondary relationship for Jake.
Nonsense. The purpose of reeking is to have real and private relationship(s) with other people.
But the one in the public eye will continue to be Reeke is what Ted is saying. Has been for the past two years, and to be called "a little something on the side" is derrogatory, IMO. He's also saying, to me, that GG love the jerk and probably can't leave him.
8:15, the purpose of Reeking is to promote Jake as straight, nothing more and nothing less. Are you seriously trying to tell us that Jake didn't have any real and private relationships before Reese?
This is about Jake's career, not his protecting someone else. He has decided that his career comes first. He will stay with Reese for as long as he or she wants. That makes his relationship with Reese his primary relationship ( I am speaking in a perceived romantic sense, making an exception for his Mom and sister).
8:07 is right. Please take those blinders off.
^^We know that Ted doesn't have much respect for those who are not out.
This is about Jake's career, not his protecting someone else.
Jake is protecting his career AND his private gay relationship(s).
6:18, are you trying to tell us that you have never heard the expression, "a little something on the side"? That has always been a reference to a secondary affair outside of the primary one.
Noooooo......really?! OMFG!! I'm shocked. SHOCKED I tell you, SHOCKED. O.M.G.
*rolls eyes*
Of course I know the expression, you %$(*@! idiot. But I also know that there's more than 1 interpretation for words and phrases and especially when it involves Tedspeak.
He was not referring to a baby.
How do you know this? Did you talk to him? Do you have a link, a signed statement from Ted that he was not in any way referring to a baby? At least with my comment I admit I am guessing and throwing my interpretation into a hat. You, OTOH are so certain that your impression is solid fact.
Ted is implying that Reeke (sexual or otherwise) is Jake's primary relationship
Reeke is a stage play, it's not his real self. Maybe you need to go visit Babble and see if it will work better for your needs.
He will stay with Reese for as long as he or she wants. That makes his relationship with Reese his primary relationship
No, that makes his "relationship" with Reese a sham. Jake's real relationship(s) is what counts.
"With so many incredibly hot out gay men - John Barrowman, Cheynne Jackson, NPH, etc. - why would anyone waste a vote on Reese's BF?"
You are 100% right. No votes for Jake from me.
The appearance of a primary relationship, to the general public. Engagement rumors, pregnancy, Cith of Lights, Eternal City, etc. Expect more of the same.
I don't know why people are having such violent reactions to this, it's been going on ad nauseam for quite some time now, hasn't it? Ted is saying isn't going to stop anytime soon.
Who cares about appearances and tabloids? We are interested in what's really going on, not PR crap.
8:09 I've been on DL since it existed and I remember the Ryan at the White party story was debunked almost immediately. Especially when he was in LA that weekend and those photos were linked. Some twink wannabe who looked very little like Ryan excited some deluded idiot. That is all. I've only heard of him being straight but very gay friendly. He worked with David LaChapelle way back before he was really well known, Greg Araki etc., he made 54 which had man on man action in the first cut at least. Ryan is a good guy. IMO I think if he were gay he wouldn't have wound up with a kid at 23. That was certainly not necessary for any bearding purposes.
No votes for Jake from me.
Austin, drop that book and start voting!
^^ :)
The White party was debunked but the gay for pay stuff came from NY during his stint on OLTL. Some were surprised that he hooked up with Reese after, but gay for pay means you did stuff to get roles and doesn't mean you are gay.
HW is full of gay for pay actors, when they get their foot in the door, no more need to to that anymore.
I believe some are upset because Ted's comments are not supporting their particular fantasy. He is saying that Jake wants this bearding relationship with Reese and wants it for as long as possible. This is about his career which is his primary concern which makes Reeke his primary relationship. But he does want to keep Austin as his side piece. For whatever reason, Austin can't bring himself to leave.
This is not supporting the idea that Jake is somehow using the bearding to "protect" his relationship with Austin. It especially puts the boot to the idea that Jake's relationship with Austin is really his primary focus, or that Austin is his real love. Jake is bearding for his career, not to protect Austin or any other gay relationship. Ted said nothing to reiterate the idea the Jake is still in love with Austin, but Austin is convient for the sex. Some people are too emotionally invested in Jaustin to accept any reality that may contradict the "true love" fairy tale.
Referring to someone as Jake's best bud doesn't mean anything.
It means a lot --- the whole paragraph drips with irony, and double-meaning.
This is a reference to Jake, not Toothy. It is obviously more subtle. He can't outright say Jake is gay for legal reasons tho he's come damned close, unlike saying that about Toothy.
I think you're reading Ted wrongly here.
All Ted had to do was use quote marks around the words "best bud" to imply the gay angle. Ted knows how words and implications are communicated in print. We know that whole point of that particular bit was to question Jake's sexuality. It was obvious, not subtle. But it was curious that when he had a chance to make reference to Jake's relationship with Austin, he didn't take it. He certainly could do so. Hell, even Perez did that.
The term "best bud" means nothing. Ted has uses that term all of the time to describe straight male friendships. That why if he wants to imply more, he would use quotes.
9.02, How exactly do you know whether Austin is the true love or just for sex?
If it's based on what Ted said, then I suggest you read all of what Ted has said about Jake/Austin without wasting everybody's time.
I think Austin may have had a serious relationship with Jake in the past, but now they are just fuckbuddies, if that. I should say I hope they are just fuckbuddies because, if they aren't, Austin is a really just a spineless doormat.
10:14, we have read what Ted has said in the past. We have also read what Ted said today. You do know that relationships change. People's affections change. Why are you so afraid of the implications of what Ted said today?
Austin apparently knows his (second) place. And he will stay in his place until he gets replaced.
Aren't we all just missing the obvious facts in Ted's answer here?
Once again, after all the tabloid shit about marriage, and true love, and holding hands, and RDJ's b'day, and magazine covers and Europe and everything since, Ted is still saying, still insisting, still plainly saying that Reeke is fake. Period. End of story.
That's one thing he's never backed away from.
Neither is he letting up on the Jake is gay. Still gay, and still with Grey Goose, after how many years now?
What this answer does is make Jake look like a selfish bastard and Austin like a pussy doormat. That's all.
9:02 - "which makes Reeke his primary relationship."
A distinction: Reeke is Jake's primary public PR Hollywood relationship. Whoever his primary private love relationship is with, is different. Let's not get the public and private faces of Jake mixed up. For most people and I'm guessing probably about 65% of actors, who they socialize with in public and in private is about the same. But Jake's bearding in the last 2 years has proved that he has developed 2 personas, the official public face of Jake and the private one we do not see, and he wants to keep them separate.
"a little goose on the side" is not a primary relationship in private or public. No "little ... on the side" relationship is ever primary. Ted could have contradicted the letter writer's assertion that Jake is no longer in love with Austin and is just using him.
Ted pointedly didn't.
The attempts to spin Ted's comments into something they aren't are silly. Might be time to let the fanfic go.
There is no way Jake is f..king Reese. They display absolutely no intimacy. Jake currently asexual? Possibly. He is not a man in control. Look at his body language. The stress has to be affecting his libido. Besides, Ted had said that even with Austin, Jake often needed the chance of being caught in public to get aroused. They broke up over it once. Can you see Reese doing it in a parking lot? No way.
Rather not see Reese, or even contemplate, doing "it" anywhere.
Austin certainly seems happy recently. Obviously he's content with the little side action he's getting.
Of course, little doesn't necessarily translate into infrequent. Could be exactly what he's doing on those mystery weekends is Jake.
Jake is a grown man who is making his own decisions. Some of you just need to accept that. You don't have to like them, but he's making them. That includes making the bearding the primary focus for the sake of his career and shunting Austin off to the side and only being with him when he needs him.
Austin is also making the decision to be treated like this. I just happen to think he's a spineless idiot for doing so.
For once, Ted's writing and meaning are pretty damn clear. It's amazing that it's upsetting some of you so much.
But no, he is not making his own decisions. He is being pushed by Disney, Reese, PR, the old HW homophobes. The boy looks on the verge of a nervous breakdown. And I use the term boy on purpose, not man. Ted reaffirms that the relationship is for PR purposes only.
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