Monday 4 April 2011

Brokeback Mountain: Personal Impact

By Nathan Donarum

In high school, I always loved movies; yet, I always looked at them passively. Only rarely did I become involved in the events or with the characters I saw on screen. In fact, prior to Brokeback Mountain I can't think of a single instance when I felt a profound emotional reaction to a film. I remember getting a little choked up while watching the end of Jonathan Demme's Philadelphia, but that's as close as it ever got to my becoming emotionally invested in situations taking place in a movie.

I watched Brokeback Mountain with my father on opening weekend back in late 2005 — though we had actually gone to see Capote instead. When we tried to buy tickets, we realized there was only one showing of Capote four or five hours later. Brokeback Mountain, however, was playing in just an hour; so, we bought two tickets and went to Borders to wait.

Since at the store they had a display with E. Annie Proulx's short story, my father and I each grabbed a copy and read it while we waited to see the movie, which had been getting phenomenal reviews. Curiously, I remember feeling underwhelmed by the short story. I thought to myself, "I don't even know if I'm excited to see this movie anymore." But since we had already bought the tickets, there wasn't really any turning back.

Jack and Ennis
Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger in "Brokeback Mountain"

After the hour passed, we went in. As I sat there watching Brokeback Mountain unfold, something changed within me. I don't know what caused it exactly, but I remember that I started crying when Gustavo Santaolalla's "The Wings" began playing while Jack and Ennis are at the campfire. I had never, ever cried because of a movie. And frankly, I did not understand how or why anyone would. Still, as I sat there in the theater, I could not contain my tears.

Eventually, I stopped crying, but the tears began streaming down once again when Ennis collects Jack's shirt and hugs it, fighting to hold on to the man he loved. I shed more tears at the end of the film, when Ennis opens his closet door, looks at the shirt, and the credits slowly start to roll.

I don't know why, but ever since that first time I saw Brokeback Mountain, my entire movie-watching experience has been radically different. After that, I have revisited movies I had seen before; suddenly, I was looking at them in a new light; at times, I was able to connect with them where before I had been emotionally and/or intellectually detached.

In addition, whether or not I'm watching a movie for the first time, I have been able to find layers to characters and settings that would have been out of my reach before. In essence, Brokeback Mountain made me realize how much I truly love the art of film. It also inspired me to start writing about it.

I mustered the courage to start posting my film commentaries online only in 2008 or whereabouts, but I had never considered writing about movies prior to Brokeback Mountain. In a profound way, that same-sex love story set in the American West made me realize there were tangible differences between bad cinema, good cinema, and great cinema. Needless to say, I'm fully aware that my Brokeback Mountain experience was exceptional, for having such a visceral response to any film is something quite unique.

Even though I cannot fully explain my personal reaction to the film, I must credit the filmmakers for it. Had Brokeback Mountain not been crafted the way it was, I find it impossible to believe that I would have been so deeply affected by it. After all, I had felt quite unenthusiastic after reading E. Annie Proulx's short story.

I have watched Brokeback Mountain many times since that first viewing. My experience has been different each time, but the film's power has never been lost. As we grow, our experiences change; our hope is that they will change not for the worse, but for the better. Thanks to Brokeback Mountain, I can happily say that mine have been forever changed for the better.

Source: Meditations on BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN: Multilayered Love Story

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Anonymous said...

But also, it's just the same thing all over again. It makes no sense. People fall in love, fall out of love, fall for someone else, fall in love again, and on it goes. My poor character guy has gone on to cheat on the one he cheated on me with. So it's the individual character of the person involved. Some people stay together, but I believe it's a concsious choice they make, not some magic thing.

Anonymous said...

That's true but when it happens to you it's not easy. When you're in love and your partner has fallen for someone else and doesn't want you anymore it's painful. Things are simple in theory, in real life it's not so easy to accept and move on.

I never said it was easy. But things can't be changed anyway.

Recently I read that a young guy didn't get over his gf falling for another guy and leaving him. What did that whacko do? Went and killed the new bf. :(

Anonymous said...

It has to do with the fact that what turns people on or what makes up their sexuality isn't clear cut.

It is a clear cut and doesn't change over years, our biology is hardwired.

Anonymous said...

I would think that would be a very rare case, not the norm.

Anonymous said...

I would think that would be a very rare case, not the norm.

Of course it's not the norm, but it happens unfortunately. But see how far some can go because of jealousy? But they are probably psychologically not well, I believe.

Anonymous said...

Jake didn't date women for years and years.

We see things differently. He and Kirsten dated, said they were boyfriend/girlfriend. Live together, bought a dog together.

Kirsten is not a woman? Are you saying that they lied?

Sounds like an agenda again. Jake is only gay because in your eyes he can't be anything other.

Anonymous said...

Some people stay together, but I believe it's a concsious choice they make, not some magic thing.

No doubt about that.

The "magic" doesn't last very long. LOL.

Anonymous said...

Of course. Most people do forgive, move on, maybe forget. People should try to treat other people well and not put their own selfish needs first.

Anonymous said...

Bisexual men are OK with only heterosexual sex while they are in a relationship with a woman.

^^^ What??

Please explain. You are not making any sense with that statement.

Anonymous said...

The "magic" doesn't last very long. LOL.

Ha! But wow, it's great while it does.

It's also a maturity thing - some people's character improves as they grow up, no matter what age they are to start with. :)

Anonymous said...

Of course. Most people do forgive, move on, maybe forget.

That's the best one can do. Not moving on and hating is destructive and maybe hinders you to find a better person who appreciates you.

Anonymous said...

He and Kirsten dated, said they were boyfriend/girlfriend. Live together, bought a dog together.
Kirsten is not a woman? Are you saying that they lied?


Kirsten was before my time, I've followed Jake's showmances with Witherspoon and Swift so I'm 100% sure about them.

Reese Witherspoon lied about living with Jake, why should I take Kirsten's or Jake's word for it? Relationship with Kirsten was on-off, Jake forgot that Kirsten exists after the final break ... yes, that relationship could be the same PR shit as Reeke.

Anonymous said...

Hate is too strong a word. But it's up to the hurt party whether or not they want to move on or not.

Anonymous said...

From the looks of it, Jake and Kirsten were for real. I get the same feeling looking at their London pics and I do with Lakers I. What propably happened is that Jake fell for someone else, in this case, Austin.

Anonymous said...

Jealousy and hurt make people do all kinds of crazy things. It brings the worst in some people unfortunately.

Anonymous said...

I think Jake might be bi. I think he and Dunst were real. Both seemed in love. I'm not ruling out the possibility of Jake and Austin dating briefly. I also think Jake was crushing on Heath and Anne.

JMO!!!

Anonymous said...

I don't think I was ever really in love. I'm just too practical. I wish I was different. :(

Anonymous said...

From the looks of it, Jake and Kirsten were for real.

I believe they had sex. I believe it was Jake's attempt to be bisexual, but he failed miserably.

Anonymous said...

I think he and Dunst were real. Both seemed in love.

Nah. They were more off than on, Jake cheated on her and never looked back.

Anonymous said...

I think he and Dunst were real. Both seemed in love.

Nah. They were more off than on, Jake cheated on her and never looked back.

Anonymous said...

I have two girlfriends who are happily married but were never in love with their husbands, they said they grew to love them. They are nice fellows.

Anonymous said...

Kirsten was before my time,

^^^ who's fault is that?

I've followed Jake's showmances with Witherspoon and Swift so I'm 100% sure about them.

^^ in your head you're 100% sure, but in reality it's not a FACT, and all in your head.

why should I take Kirsten's or Jake's word for it

^^ you don't have too. your choice.

Relationship with Kirsten was on-off,why should I take Kirsten's or Jake's word for it?yes, that relationship could be the same PR shit as Reeke.

^^ could have been, may NOT have been, are you Aware of this?

the issuse is, these two guys have been known to date women in the past and the present. nobody has said the possibilty of J/A hooking up and having sex could not have happened. you can choose to believe what you want but it does NOT make your belief the truth. you and many here will not accept any involvemnt from J/A with any female. not even the possibility. I don't see it that way.
Life changes happen for everyone. things happen.

Anonymous said...

Jake forgot that Kirsten exists after the final break

oh let's see, when Heath did this to Michelle it was ok?

When other HW stars do this it's ok, but not for Jake when it comes to Kirsten.

Anonymous said...

I've followed Jake's showmances with Witherspoon and Swift so I'm 100% sure about them.
^^ in your head you're 100% sure, but in reality it's not a FACT, and all in your head.


Showmances are FACTS, transparent PR fiction and tons of arranged photo ops.

Anonymous said...

Jake forgot that Kirsten exists after the final break
oh let's see, when Heath did this to Michelle it was ok?


What are you talking about??????
Heath didn't do anything like that, they took care of Matilda together.

Anonymous said...

the issuse is, these two guys have been known to date women in the past and the present.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jake didn't date Witherspoon and Swift, he's gay as a gose.

Anonymous said...

oh let's see, when Heath did this to Michelle it was ok?

It was not ok. Michelle made his life difficult, wanted sole custody, hired tons of lawyers. That's a woman's scorn.


When other HW stars do this it's ok, but not for Jake when it comes to Kirsten.

Best example Pitt leaving Aniston for Miss Sexy Lips. ;)

Anonymous said...

What are you talking about??????
Heath didn't do anything like that, they took care of Matilda together.


He left Michelle and was dating Gemma Ward at the time of his death. Also he and Michelle were in the middle of a custody fight over Matilda. How don't you know that, it's been discussed on WFT 2 for ages. I guess you kept scrolling down.

Anonymous said...

Michelle made his life difficult, wanted sole custody, hired tons of lawyers. That's a woman's scorn.

Why are you posting lies like that? You have no idea what happened.

Anonymous said...

^^That's the ideal example - I wonder if Jen can move on from that kind of hurt. She's certainly beautiful too.

I think Jake as he matured became more comfortable with who he really is. The blowup at the Chateau Marmont by Kirsten sounds about right. ;)

Anonymous said...

Jake and Kirsten were good friends and liked each other. But she was his beard nevertheless. Like Austin and Sophia.

Anonymous said...

He left Michelle and was dating Gemma Ward at the time of his death.

So? There is no reason to belive he never talked to Michelle after the break.

Anonymous said...

Glad to see that SC showed decent box office. In all the talk about the film in HW however there is not much talk about Jake. His performance was serviceable. The credit is being given to Duncan for how it was directed.

Anonymous said...

I think Jake and Duncan both deserve credit. I haven't seen Moon, but I was impressed! :)

Anonymous said...

When other HW stars do this it's ok, but not for Jake when it comes to Kirsten.
Best example Pitt leaving Aniston for Miss Sexy Lips. ;)


Wrong example - unlike Jake, Brad talks to Jen.

Anonymous said...

So? There is no reason to belive he never talked to Michelle after the break.

They had a kid together, they most likely talked. But the impending custody battle suggested, not everything was going well after the break up.

Anonymous said...

Wrong example - unlike Jake, Brad talks to Jen.

Says who? Tabloids? Jen's and/or Brad's PR? I thought our posters here are much smater than to fall for that. Or it's a case of believing what you want to believe.

Jen said...

Me and Brad are tight. We are BFFs. I don't mind him leaving me for a younger and hotter woman and having three biological kids with her. Me being over 40, not having a partner and my biological clock ticking is SO not a problem for me. Pfft!

Anonymous said...

Well ideally exes can continue to be friends. If you were that close, I walys wonder where it all goes to. Sometimes you are better off as friends than romantic partners. I do believe that Jake and Kirsten stay in touch.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Kirsten were good friends and liked each other. But she was his beard nevertheless. Like Austin and Sophia.

^^ it's obvious you have a gay Jake agenda and will downplay any involvement Jake has had with any woman. so transparent and self serving!

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't say Angie is hotter, just a different kind of beauty. Jen in a bikini is incredible. Not every woman has a biological clock that goes off like a timebomb. :)

Anonymous said...

Just look at those London pics with Kirsten and Jake - obviously the day after. :)

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't say Angie is hotter, just a different kind of beauty. Jen in a bikini is incredible.

Jennifer has a toned body, but she's working out 24/7. Jennifer's not someone I'd describe as beauty. She has too hard features. She's well groomed that's all (she has the money for it).

Anonymous said...

Angie has a lot going for her besides sexiness and beauty. She's a good person too.

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Anonymous said...

I like Angie and Brad, but I have to admit I'm in the minority for liking Angie and Billy Bob Thornton too. :)

Anonymous said...

I like Angie and Brad, but I have to admit I'm in the minority for liking Angie and Billy Bob Thornton too. :)

They were a freaky, but entertaining couple.

Anonymous said...

"I do believe that Jake and Kirsten stay in touch."

They didn't, Kirsten said they never talked.

Anonymous said...

Just look at those London pics with Kirsten and Jake - obviously the day after.

Yes, a lot of closeted boys fuck girls, it's easier and safer.

Anonymous said...

Wrong example - unlike Jake, Brad talks to Jen.
Says who?


Brad and Jen in their interviews.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Kirsten were good friends and liked each other. But she was his beard nevertheless. Like Austin and Sophia.
^^ it's obvious you have a gay Jake agenda and will downplay any involvement Jake has had with any woman. so transparent and self serving!


Jake faked relationships with Witherspoon and Swift, there is no reason to belive tabloids about Jake and Kirsten's "big love", lol.

Anonymous said...

Brad and Jen in their interviews.

No matter what they say, I don't believe it. It was probably a PR advise.

Anonymous said...

There is no reason why Jen and Brad wouldn't talk, they are both nice persons and were in love, cared about each otrher.

Anonymous said...

^^No reason 2:28 PM, really?

Anonymous said...

Yes, really. You shouldn't believe everything you read in tabloids.

Anonymous said...

Yes, really. You shouldn't believe everything you read in tabloids.

I don't. I don't even buy rags.
Still don't believe that Jennifer and Brad are in touch let alone friends. They probably talk when they bump into each other at an industry event.

Anonymous said...

Jennifer and Brad said they talk to each other. A lot of divorced couples do that. No reason to disbelieve it.

Anonymous said...

Just look at those London pics with Kirsten and Jake - obviously the day after. :)

Yeah, the day after and morning of doing it with Austin. That's why Jake flew over to London. Remember that Kirsten was the one who helped Austin get a role in Wimbledon. No doubt because Jake wanted to continue to see his boyfriend. Kirsten was a beard like all the rest of them.

Anonymous said...

I think your timeline is way off there. I always thought those London pics were before Wimbledon and Austin. I could be wrong tho.

Anonymous said...

Recently I read that a young guy didn't get over his gf falling for another guy and leaving him. What did that whacko do? Went and killed the new bf. :(

Ha! In my instance I had more to fear from my ex than he of me. He was controlling, physically abusive and Lord help you if you stood in the way of something he wants. Finally he did the ultimate and cheated and lied until he was caught and couldn't lie anymore, but I don't blame the woman he cheated with at all. While I don't think she's got great character either, he's the one, and without professional help, I doubt he's changed his spots. So she has my sympathy, not jealousy, and I'm out of it thankfully. At one time we did have a good relationship.

Anonymous said...

I think your timeline is way off there. I always thought those London pics were before Wimbledon and Austin. I could be wrong tho.

Jake and Kirsten in London... Austin not Far Behind

Yep, your timeline is way off. The picture of them in London is from July, 2003. In July 2004, they had already broken up and Jake was in Canada filming Brokeback Mountain. In July, 2005, after Ted wrote about Toothy being hauled in for going into fifth gear with Austin in a parked vehicle, Jake suddenly was seen awkwardly bathing in the sun at a "Hollywood Hotel" with Kirsten the beard to squelch the gay rumors.

Anonymous said...

A lot of young gay men have sex with women in their teens and even in to early 20s. They are trying to fit in so give it a go. But you see the end result. You can only hide from your true nature for so long. Actually he was right on schedule for moving on to the next chapter of his gay life. Too bad he chickened out and caved to pressure.

Anonymous said...

Your timeline is completely right 7:53 p.m. Kirsten was filming Wimbledon in England in July 2003, with Austin.

Since you named all the Julys from 2003-2005, let's not forget the most important July from 2002, the year Austin and Jake met. Jake was already being seen with Austin as evidence by a Lotus Club pic from the time, and then in September 2002, just before Jake was going to spend the next six months filming The Day After Tomorrow with Austin, sis Maggie plays matchmaker and allegedly introduces Jake to Kirsten in September.

Remember, how Jake's PR team tried to float the idea that Maggie introduced Jake and Taylor Swift too? When they were called out on the BS, the "official" story changed at least three more times. The beard script never changes.

destiny said...

Allowing himself to be used as a tool of the corporate media bosses. Instead of leading an open and honest life, he's selling the ideal of heterosexuality to get work. It's one thing to be in the closet. It's another thing to pretend you're something you are not. The conclusion is that there's something wrong about being gay.


ITA.

Anonymous said...

anon 8:12 What years are you talking about 2002-03-04?
It's freaking 2011 now.

are you aware how much changes have taken place in everyones life since then?

Austin and Jake may have had some sweet fling on and off during those years but it's deffinately over now imo. Does not mean he didn't date and have a relationship with Kirsten doing that time frame.

Why do gays and JIG fans have problems with the idea that Jake or Austin could like both sexes.
They seem threatened by this notion and will go in full attack mode. Then they spend endless amounts of time attacking belittleing them both because Jake and Austin are not representing them.

Afterall, they have said they dated females, have been involved with females over the years, so it makes the possibility of them being attracted to them and involved with them a higher possibility than being totally ((GAY))!

Anonymous said...

Jake Gyllenhaal is gay, only closeted gays fake relationships with women for years.

Anonymous said...

Afterall, they have said they dated females, have been involved with females over the years...

LOL! We know that Jake lied. And you too know that Jake never dated the chin or Swift.

Anonymous said...

Austin dated the same girl all through high school and later. She threw him out when she found out the nature of his relationship with Jake. A textbook case. Jake did not have girlfriends. He had girls who were friends. There is a big difference.

prairiegirl said...

Why do gays and JIG fans have problems with the idea that Jake or Austin could like both sexes.

Of course they like both sexes. But both men are gay and sexually like men.

I cannot believe someone could buy that Austin and Sophia are truly dating. That just kills me.

Anonymous said...

I cannot believe someone could buy that Austin and Sophia are truly dating.

Why not? They aren't that bad at faking.

Anonymous said...

daniellepantony: Sophia Bush and Austin Nichols watched Manny Pacquiao's fight?
1 day ago via

Anonymous said...

elishasazombie: When people call Jake Gyllenhaal gay and insult him. Um, no.
3 minutes ago

Anonymous said...

RyeGuyLA: My Mother's Day morning? Well, I spent it with Jake Gyllenhaal & his mum @ Hollywood Farmers Market. #true
about 22 hours ago

Anonymous said...

May 8 - Out For Lunch With Naomi In Los Angeles

Good boy!

Anonymous said...

Why do gays and JIG fans have problems with the idea that Jake or Austin could like both sexes.

Because there is no reason to believe Jake cares about heterosexual sex.

Anonymous said...

Why not? They aren't that bad at faking.

IA. They're obviously genuinely good friends. Good friends make good beards. Not at all like Jake & Reese, who never managed to look like they even really liked each other.

Anonymous said...

Because there is no reason to believe Jake cares about heterosexual sex.

Is this because you dont'?
Just asking.
It might be projecting on YOUR part.

Anonymous said...

ok Jake's back in LA now, where is Austin? Why is he not with Jake?
He's probably somewhere doing the nasty with Sophia. Or maybe Sophia and some man.
Jake and Austin are never pictured together anymore.
I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

Is this because you dont'?

Because men who fake relationships with females don't care about heterosexual sex.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Austin are never pictured together anymore. I wonder why?

I think the answer to that question is the same as the answer to the question why Austin and Jake don't care about being in the same place at the same time.

Austin said...

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Anonymous said...

I think the answer to that question is the same as the answer to the question why Austin and Jake don't care about being in the same place at the same time.

^^^ hummm, they're not together is my answer.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

May 8 - Out For Lunch With Naomi In Los Angeles

Good boy!


Jake's looking good. Naomi is a stylish woman.

Anonymous said...

Where is Austin Nichols at the moment? In L.A.?

Anonymous said...

Olivia Munn: Night Out with Busy Phillips!

Just Jared

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Anonymous said...

Jake and Austin are never pictured together anymore. I wonder why?

Or, maybe it's because, they are supposed to be convincing people that they are not together. Kind of hard to do that we you're openly hanging around each other, don't you think?

Frankly, Jake and Austin haven't been pictured together much since October, 2007 when they both went far into the closet to raise a family together. Before that they were BFFs, then poof, Austin pretty much disappears from his public life while no other friend is bandished/quarantined. We get to see Chris. We get to see David. We get to see Adam Levine, et al. But rarely is Austin ever allowed to be seen in public with Jake.

I think it's not an accident that the last time we were allowed to see Austin with Jake was that May 29th, 2010 photo op in which Sophia was made to stay in the background and Jake just stared into the camera and had a smirk on his face when he walked back to his SUV.

Anonymous said...

Lol @ 7:45 jaustaloon

Anonymous said...

7:45 you are gasping for straws.

Your scenerio of J/A life means damn if you do, damn if you don't.
J/A (NOT) being seen together means they ("Are" together)? When they are seen together, it means, ("See, they are together"), which is far and few. Meaning it has been years ago of just the two of them in each others presents.
You can't win with your analysis and it only fits your narrative.

What exactly is your mission?
Why does Jake and Austin need to fool you with their life and goings on?
And why is it so important for you to be obsessed with their sexuality even if they are gay and in the closet? What's it to you?
What do you get out of it?
How about just enjoying his movies?

Anonymous said...

Frankly, Jake and Austin haven't been pictured together much since October, 2007 when they both went far into the closet to raise a family together.

LOL. "Raise a family together" by spending all their free time apart?

prairiegirl said...

LOL, man 23:09, here's a hanky to wipe that sweat from the forehead.

Actually 19:45 hits the nail right on the head.

Jake & Austin were BFF's. BFF's. They met during auditions for TDAT and before they even started filming together, these 2 guys were hanging together at the Lotus Club.

While filming TDAT for I think it was seven months, these two guys spent a lot of time cooking together - Austin mentioned it in interviews. Gee, sounds to me like they spent time in each other's apartments to be sharing meals like that.

They went to the opening of Casanova together, they rode bikes together, were papped going for coffee together.

Sounds like the description of close friends to me. Wonder why Jake has never referred to Austin as a best friend, because he sure seems to call every other friend his bestie.

And if he only sees Austin once a year since some think they never keep in touch, why do you spend that one time a year catching up while doing yoga? With the beard along?

Please.

prairiegirl said...

Oh wait, there was Leadville, wasn't there?

Only that wasn't supposed to get out, was it? That was supposed to be a secret. But Brandon Fuller unknowingly put it out there and while it took a few months to discover him, there Austin was in plain sight, standing right next to Jake.

And those 2 guys and Jake's people have been fighting that picture leak ever since.

Leadville CO has a population of under 3000. That is tiny. Just like Marfa. Barfa has a population of under 2200. That's tinier yet.

Yet Austin was quoted as saying he really liked Marfa. What a coincidence that the Thomas Tank Train Tour had a stop in Marfa.

Anonymous said...

That's some mighty fine storytelling there old gal. How exactly is PR fighting to keep that Leadville photo from getting out again? And why would they bother? It's not Austin. Oh hey you know what else???? Lots of people, mostly hipsters mind you, find Marfa a chill city. But you wouldn't know about that would you.

Anonymous said...

The boys planned to go undercover when they decided to have a family. Jake has proven time and again that he can get around without being seen when he wants to. The very fact that we don't see them together says more than anything.

Anonymous said...

Notice that one of the source code interviews mentions jakes frequent visits to Austin. But we have only seen him there a few times. He goes more than we get to see.

Anonymous said...

1:49 AM - which interview? Link please.

Anonymous said...

prairiegirl said...
Oh wait, there was Leadville, wasn't there?


No, there wasn't Leadville, everyone with a brain can see that the man in the photo wasn't Austin.

Anonymous said...

Jake has proven time and again that he can get around without being seen when he wants to. The very fact that we don't see them together says more than anything.

You can repeat that insane wishful thinking as much as you like, but in the last few years Jake and Austin have proven that they don't give a shit about spending time together.

Anonymous said...

Only that wasn't supposed to get out, was it? That was supposed to be a secret. But Brandon Fuller unknowingly put it out there and while it took a few months to discover him, there Austin was in plain sight, standing right next to Jake.
There is no Austin in that picture, but if that was Austin why would anyone care? I asked this before: what would be so special about Jake, Austin and Peter being photographed with a group of men?

And those 2 guys and Jake's people have been fighting that picture leak ever since.
There are pictures of Jake and Austin during Reeke time and no one cared, but Jake and Austin would stay away from each other for months and months because of group photo discussed only on OMG and WFT2? Is that what you're saying?

new pic said...

The freshly shorn actor grabs some lunch. Hot lunch.

http://uk.eonline.com/photos/gallery.jsp?galleryUUID=6#123391

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Actor Jake Gyllenhaal hanging on the set of #Entourage today....shhh inside scoop ;) #OneOfTheBoys
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Mark Wahlberg and Stephen Levinson serve as the show's executive producers, and its premise is loosely based on Wahlberg's experiences as an up-and-coming film star. The series deals with themes of male friendship and real-life situations in modern-day Hollywood. The show is known for its array of guest stars, usually featuring at least two celebrities per episode.

Anonymous said...

http://uk.eonline.com/photos/gallery.jsp?galleryUUID=6#123391

After a lot of critsizing, I'll go fangirl on Jake. He's got that great combination of sensitive/sensual and hot/sexy.
I think he's a good lover. I bet his female or male or both partners have nothing to complain about.

Anonymous said...

Female partners? LOL

Anonymous said...

The freshly shorn actor grabs some lunch.

No family lunch?

Anonymous said...

I think he's a good lover.

I would say good, but not great - Jake isn't a passionate person.

Anonymous said...

^^Maybe not that passionate, but he seems caring and tender. I can imagine you feel safe with him and well taken care of. ;)

Anonymous said...

Hmm... I can only imagine Jake wanting to be well taken care of, lol.

Anonymous said...

He strikes me as a taker AND giver. ;)

Anonymous said...

Nah, total bottom.

prairiegirl said...

Sorry, but that is Austin at Leadville.

Anonymous said...

Prairiegirl, that wasn't Austin and you know it.

That man's ear is visible and clear enough to compare it to Austin's and see for sure, 100%, that man is not Austin.

Anonymous said...

Biometric recognition using 3D ear shape.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17568136

prairiegirl said...

^^I can imagine you feel safe with him and well taken care of. ;)

I think some here have got a bit misguided idea about Jake. That's not the way Jake is wired.


I find it an interesting coincidence that Austin follows Adrian Grenier and what show is Grenier on but Entourage. Not any big coup but interesting nonetheless, especially when you couple this coincidence with a lot of other similar links via who Austin follows on Twitter.

prairiegirl said...

Sorry but that is Austin. At Leadville. Sure as I'm sitting here.

prairiegirl said...

Blow that picture up. Blow it up big and voila!


Austin.

Anonymous said...

Why do you insist on insulting everyone's intelligence? How can you say that when photos prove you wrong?

Anonymous said...

Blow that picture up. Blow it up big and voila!

We did that.
We posted side-by-side photo of Austin and Leadville man.
Different ear shape.
Two different men.

Anonymous said...

Blow that picture up. Blow it up big and voila!

What blowing up has to do with anything????
Did you compare ear shape with Austin's?

Anonymous said...

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2 minutes ago

Anonymous said...

I don't know for sure what Jake's sexual orientation is, what I know is he never seems completely natural kissing and having sex with women on screen. You can include Anne Hathaway here. For all the talk about their steamy sex scenes I didn't find them hot or that convincing.

Jake said...

*cough*

Anonymous said...

Actor Jake Gyllenhaal hanging on the set of #Entourage today....

Waiting for a boyfriend?

Anonymous said...

And those 2 guys and Jake's people have been fighting that picture leak ever since.

What? How could you possibly know anything of the kind? How are they "fighting" it? There is a difference between the stuff that happens in your mind and the stuff that happens in real life.

Anonymous said...

Female partners? LOL

^^ threatened gay or slashy writer

Jake isn't a passionate person.

^^^ Wow, you've been in his been I presume? LOL

Nah, total bottom.

^^ a little PORJECTING young man?

Anonymous said...

LOL, man 23:09, here's a hanky to wipe that sweat from the forehead.

Actually 19:45 hits the nail right on the head.


No sweat here old girl. It's very obvious you are threatened about Jake sexuality and can't and (Will not) see him as anything but gay. You did not answer the question.
What's it to you if they are gay and in the closet???

Your detetive work is cute if not desturbing, but it seems a little on the fringe if you ask me.

7:45's comment sounds like your friend M, and we all know her "we know since they became parents they went deeper in the closet" statements.

YOU mean to tell me two people, (Men mind you) spend enormous amounts of time and money trying to get a surrogate baby, then another and again, another, and don't think it will get out in the public or, Don't (WANT IT TO GET OUT)?
It's apparant they threw the big bad PR people (their team -LOL)caution to the wind to do this.

Well I would say that those two people are just as looney as the people who believe this Enchanted Tale.
PG gal your tale reads like the Cat in the Hat.

Anonymous said...

been = Bed

Anonymous said...

Female partners? LOL
^^ gay or slashy writer


LMAO! I could call you silly fangirl pretending to believe that Jake fucks women :)

Anonymous said...

Jake isn't a passionate person.
^^^ Wow, you've been in his bed I presume?


Learn to READ. Check out dictionary for "passionate".

Anonymous said...

Also PG, You and your friends can't explain Austin and Sophia.

You hang onto a moment in time photos of J/A years ago. Photos that just as well explain J/A as friend as some claim Sophia is.
But you don't see this.

Since 2007 or 08 Austin and Sophia have been with each other endlessly. What fag hag would spend this amount of time with a gay friend when she could be with a Real boyfriend or potential mate. It's stupid and to call her a beard after all this time is silly and grasping for straws to fit your agenda.
Jake and Austin are just friends (Now) is the only reasonalbe notion and there is Nothing, I'll say it again, Nothing wrong with that.

Anonymous said...

Nah, total bottom.
^^ a little PORJECTING young man?


No. Years of experience.

Anonymous said...

It's very obvious you are threatened about Jake sexuality and can't and (Will not) see him as anything but gay.

People who don't share your opinion are "threatened about Jake sexuality"?

Do you ever stop and think?

Anonymous said...

Nah, total bottom.
^^ a little PORJECTING young man?
****
No. Years of experience


alright young man. tell the truth and shame the devil. but sadly it don't explain Jake's sexuality at all, it explains yours.

Haywire said...

I think some here have got a bit misguided idea about Jake. That's not the way Jake is wired.

How do you (or anyone) know how Jake is "wired", having never met or spoken with him for any length of time? Or have you? Get a grip, will ya.

Anonymous said...

11:15 AM - you really need to get a grip. And there is nothing wrong with being a bottom.

Anonymous said...

apparently you have the grip 11:15! LOL

Anonymous said...

Well known fact that Jake is a total bottom. As for the Leadville photo we did blow it up. The only one who does not think its Austin is the troll with the Jake is straight agenda. And he would say the sky is green if we said it was blue. And within 10 seconds. No stopping to think on his part. Ever.

Anonymous said...

I find it an interesting coincidence that Austin follows Adrian Grenier and what show is Grenier on but Entourage. Not any big coup but interesting nonetheless, especially when you couple this coincidence with a lot of other similar links via who Austin follows on Twitter.

I'm sure you know how Twitter works.
As far as we know, Austin has nothing to do with Entourage. What we know for sure is that Adrian Grenier is just ONE of hundreds person working on Entourage.

Anonymous said...

^^^ WE?

Are you French?
Just who is this (WE)?
It might be best to speak for yourself.

We know for a FAcT? What????
What on earth are you talking about. Fact? Explain!
It's apparent that you have witnessed Jake G having sex with someone and he was the bottom? Can I state that as a true fact according to you?

Anonymous said...

As for the Leadville photo we did blow it up. The only one who does not think its Austin is the troll with the Jake is straight agenda.

You keep repeating total bullshit.
Compare the picture of that man and picture of Austin's ear.
You wont do that because it is easier to lie and play stupid than admit the obvious truth everyone can see from the photos.

Anonymous said...

Sigh. I love the "troll" who thinks just because anyone disagrees with them or sees things differently, that they must be a JIS belierver, or believe that the poster sees something "wrong" with gay sex. Talk about a one-note Charlie! It doesn't mean that at all.

Not only do you want/need Jake to be gay, he has to be 100% gay, and must avert his eyes from every female he passes on the street. Unbelieveable.

Anonymous said...

We know for a FAcT? What????
What on earth are you talking about. Fact? Explain!


What would be the point of explaining how gays recognise other gays and their sexual preferences to you? You would ignore it and keep asking stupid qestions.

Anonymous said...

I agree 11:53. It's realy lame and immature to use the arguments. All of your points are correct.

Anonymous said...

Thanks. We've got One-Note Charlie and Dizzy Gillespie posting today, who else? ;)

Anonymous said...

It's realy lame and immature to use the arguments.

Which arguments?
"As for the Leadville photo we did blow it up" is an argument? "Blow it up big and voila!" is an argument? Those aren't arguments, those are ways to keep playing stupid and bullshiting about everyone being a troll.

Anonymous said...

What would be the point of explaining how gays recognise other gays and their sexual preferences to you? You would ignore it and keep asking stupid qestions.

I agree with you 50/50 on some of these points. Things are not always clear cut. And you can not always judge a book by it's cover is a true statement.

Just yesterday I saw this tall guy walking with a woman holding hands. He and the woman seemed in love as she constantly looked at him and smiled. For first appearences, I would have claimed this guy to be gay because he had a somewhat feminine walk and gestures. I noticed him before her and immediately thought he was gay. Then mature and rational understanding took over. I immediatley remembered working with a guy everyone thought and just knew was gay. Not overbearing and obvious just alot of mannerisms. The guy has been married for years with grown children now. I don't know what goes on behind closed doors but I would not say he is 100% gay anymore or gay at all. Then there are the men who don't fit the gay description. Jocks, sports buff who are totally into men. You won't be able to tell unless you get to know them or they tell you. They're in the closet though. Who KNOWS what they do behind closed doors.
Judging can be on spot sometimes, but it's not 100% proof.

Anonymous said...

I guess some people have never heard the phrase "Can't judge a book by its cover."

Anonymous said...

And you can not always judge a book by it's cover is a true statement.

That is true, but what that has to do with Jake?
I'm sure that you and everyone who post here knows that people base their opinions on YEARS and YEARS of Jake's photos, interviews, video interviews, sightings, posing for paparazzi and movies.
Everyone knows that.
So there is no point of suggesting that Jake is like someone we saw for a few minutes.

Anonymous said...

I guess some people have never heard the phrase "Can't judge a book by its cover."

Long, long time ago before Internet, mobile phones, TV coverage and AIDS people knew about Rock Hudson. You can delude yourself as much as you want, but no one can fool all the people all the time.

Anonymous said...

12:28 all of what you mentioned is judgeing and pure speculation. YOU don't know Jake personally. Nobody here does. We all can speculate and twist ideas to fit our own agenda if there is an agenda and there sure seem to be with some.

I'm sorry, looking at pap pictures don't give a true spotlight on most stars life. And this is if the star sexuality is questioned also. Gay or str8.

a pap pic of Jake and Reese pouting and walking apart could mean to some that there is NO Chemistry! To some it could mean, damn they are pissed the paps are in there face. Then some will surely say, but they call the paps all the time for photo ops. Well, to some people, they know mostly (all) stars do this, not just Jake and whoever he's with. This is mature and rational thinking. The ALL DO IT. Rational thinkers also realize that when the stars don't want to be paped, they may be because that's how the paps and that industry works. The stars may not be ready for photos or in a bad mood just as you Or I would be at times.
So I would never use the Jake and his beards photo ops BS for every waking moment Jake is paped by himself or with whomever.

Anonymous said...

We all can speculate and twist ideas to fit our own agenda if there is an agenda and there sure seem to be with some.

Your agenda is more than transparent, LOL!

Anonymous said...

Everyone knows about Rock Hudson now. There are many gay rumors about Well known sports guys, musicians, artist and actors. Most people are not even aware of the rumors. Some may be true and some may not. The masses of people will never know until these celebritys careers are over or they die.

And NO. Most people did not know of Rock Hudson's sexual preference.

But, What does that have to do with Jake?

Anonymous said...

YOU don't know Jake personally. Nobody here does.

So?

I never met Ricky Martin, but I knew he was bearding and was gay 10 years ago.

Anonymous said...

Your agenda is more than transparen

Something tells me you think YOURS is NOT!
Well I have new for you. LOL

Anonymous said...

But, What does that have to do with Jake?

I see, never tired of playing stupid.

Anonymous said...

Your agenda is more than transparen
Something tells me you think YOURS is NOT!


Silly, YOU choose to post on JiG blog. You can't stand gay Jake, can you?

Anonymous said...

You can't stand gay Jake, can you?

YES, I can. I think he likes both and he and Austin are not together. That's my assessment.

YOU Can't stand bi or str* Jake can you? Nor can you accept the idea it might be true, can YOU?

I will await you response.

12:58 PM said...

I'm 100% sure Jake is gay, after all that bearding there is no reason to believe he's straight or bisexual.

Anonymous said...

I'm 100% sure Jake is gay, after all that bearding there is no reason to believe he's straight or bisexual.

Just as I thought. The only thing 100% is your bias towards Jake being 100% gay and no possibility of anything else.
All that and you don't know him personally, never met him, never spent on waking second in his present and you're 100% sure about his sexual preference.

The question was: You can't stand bi or str8 Jake, can you?
You are aware you did NOT answer the question, are you not?

1:12 PM said...

1:19 PM - I have answered your question. I can't be sure what is your problem - you are uncapable of having an opinion, you are trolling, you are ignorant - but it is YOUR problem that you believe how are smart while people who don't agree with you are bias. LMAO!

prairiegirl said...

I'll participate in the poll.

Sure I could stand a bi or straight Jake.

But that isn't called for since I totally believe Jake is gay.

Looks like there's been an influx of babble or OTH fangirls. This is entertaining to say the least.

Anonymous said...

^^^ believe how you are smart

Anonymous said...

Oh goodnes Your highness old gal PG is back. Thanks, but the question, NOT poll, was not addressed to you. But as usual, you jump in and put your 20cents worth and your nose where it was not asked for. Your usual MO.

Anonymous said...

I'm 100% sure Jake is gay, after all that bearding there is no reason to believe he's straight or bisexual.

you have not, you sidestepped the question.

You asked me if I could stand gay Jake, I said YES I can.

when I asked you if you could stand bi or str8 Jake, you did not say Yes or NO.

prairiegirl said...

You keep repeating total bullshit.
Compare the picture of that man and picture of Austin's ear.
You wont do that because it is easier to lie and play stupid than admit the obvious truth everyone can see from the photos.


You can't get past the stinkin' ear.

It's pointless to argue Leadville with some. I am just sorry to tell you, hon, that is Austin Nichols standing next to Jake in Leadville CO.

Sorry if that bursts some bubbles but that is Austin.

There are going to be some really upset OTH fangirls the coming day when Sophin goes belly up. And Sophia will come out smelling like a rose and I'm sure will be the dump-er, Austin the dump-ee. Not that it doesn't serve him right for getting involved in the charade in the first place.

Anonymous said...

I have answered your question.

^^ you have not, you sidestepped the question.

You asked me if I could stand gay Jake, I said YES I can.

when I asked you if you could stand bi or str8 Jake, you did not say Yes or NO.

prairiegirl said...

Oh goodnes Your highness old gal PG is back. Thanks, but the question, NOT poll, was not addressed to you. But as usual, you jump in and put your 20cents worth and your nose where it was not asked for. Your usual MO.

LOL! Wheweeeeee! Some people sure are worked up, ain't they? Darn, and I have to just take a quick dip into this hootenanny?

Sounds to me like some people are sweating bullets for some reason.

Gee, I wonder if wind of Austin's pink hat tweet take-down blew over to the Forum?

1:30 PM said...

when I asked you if you could stand bi or str8 Jake, you did not say Yes or NO

I have answered. I'm positive Jake is gay. I'm positive Earth isn't flat. I don't need other people's opinions to validate mine. I'm over 14 so Jake's sexuality has zero impact on me - there is nothing to "stand".

Anonymous said...

Wheweeeeee! Some people sure are worked up, ain't they?

yeah, you are. that's why you hang around here so much instead of OMG. You're sweating bullets trying to get your message out and promoting your detective work, or should I say book "Good Parenting: the J/A Story".
I don't think it's gonna be a NY Times bestseller old gal.

Anonymous said...

I'm over 14 so Jake's sexuality has zero impact on me - there is nothing to "stand".

oh hold on there now. You ask me some immature Stand questin about Jake's sexuality, now you can't answer it?

Jake's sexuality has zero impact on me

not so fast there. it concerns you that Jake be gay. that makes you happy and complete! it's telling, especially since you did NOT answer the question if you can stand (your words), or should I say, can you accept bi or str8 Jake.

Anonymous said...

You ask me some immature Stand questin about Jake's sexuality, now you can't answer it?

I asked you that idiotic question because fangirls and babblers are using that idiotic "argument" here on WFT2 for years.

Anonymous said...

1:51 PM - are you new here?

Anonymous said...

Your usual MO. = Modus Operandi

PG's usual busy body butting in actions

prairiegirl said...

Oh thanks for the MO explanation! Gee whiz golly, I didn't know that. Let's see if it will stop me in the future.

Busybody. lol, what is this, 3rd grade? Ladies PTA / Tupperware party?

No, wait ! I think it's a blog.

Anonymous said...

It's pointless to argue Leadville with some. I am just sorry to tell you, hon, that is Austin Nichols standing next to Jake in Leadville CO.

The true tell will be when we see screencaps or stills from that Miley Cyrus movie he filmed for like two days just prior to Leadville. When that emerges and we see Austin with short hair, will you give up this fantasy that Austin was in Leadville?

Anonymous said...

This is a public blog. It's the trolls who need to move along AND grow up. Jake and Austin are gay. They have been together for years. Soapy is a beard just like Kirsten, Reese and Taylor. If you look at the so-called "dating" history of Sophin you can tell it's all made up to fill-in uncomfortable gaps in Jake's and Austin's history. Austin supposedly dated someone named Claire Oswalt for 7 years! No engagement. Then they suddenly had an awful fight and he lived in cars and other people's homes after September 2004. The same year Jake allegedly broke up with Kirsten in July 2004. The story was floated in July 2009 by Just Jared, who is a tool of the Hollywood publicity machine, that Jake was the one who introduced them. Yeah, right. Don't think it's a coincidence that just when Austin was hired as a regular on OTH in the summer of 2009 that rumors started to circulate that these two were "dating". She was supposed to be with James Lafferty and later a story circulated that they broke up later that year. She always dates her costars. Strategically, ramping up publicity in the summer when the show starts to film.She's a notorious publicity whore...just like Reese and Taylor who prey on hot gay men for publicity.

Anonymous said...

When that emerges and we see Austin with short hair, will you give up this fantasy that Austin was in Leadville?

Crazy people won't give up, they don't care about existing proof and you can bet they will ignore all additional proof too.

Anonymous said...

Oh, Prariegirl is not the only one who thinks that's Austin in that photo from Leadville. It's him. Ear and all and I am not an OMG blogger. I love their site though. I have learned a lot about a variety of topics that I had always questioned (like was Kirsten a beard)from the posters there. A lot of information and knowledge. No wonder trolls trash them all the time. They have uncovered and identified things that passed everyone else up. Like that Lotus Club photo or the multiple births. And, yes, I am now convinced that Jake is a family man with more than one child. And, he is still with Austin.

Anonymous said...

It's him. Ear and all and I am not an OMG blogger.

It is not Austin, ear shape is very different, all you need is to look at photos side by side.

Anonymous said...

And, yes, I am now convinced that Jake is a family man with more than one child. And, he is still with Austin.

Not spending time with Austin is proof that Jake is raising kids with him! Geez.

TB said...

Like that Lotus Club photo or the multiple births.

Multiple births? Compared to OMGs babblers are sane and rational people.

Anonymous said...

They have uncovered and identified things that passed everyone else up. Like ...the multiple births

LOL. There is absolutely nothing to support multiple births, so there was nothing to be "uncovered" or "identified." If you think you're "learning" anything from the posters there, you need to think again. They're just throwing speculation around based upon what they want to believe, and a lot of the speculation is outlandish.

Anonymous said...

So, we are to believe that there has never been anyone else for Jake than Austin, and noone for Austin other than Jake? Ever? Some of the OMG trolls get "trashed", because they are whack jobs.

I tend to wonder if Kirsten and Jake were the real deal, and that Claire and Austin were too - until J&A met each other.

Anonymous said...

It's fine to speculate. But I can't understand why certain OMG'ers have to come over to WFT2 to try to convince people to their way of thinking. I think PG likes the attention or something, whether it's good or bad.

Anonymous said...

TBH, I'm losing interest in the fandom because all of this "speculation" is becoming as painful as a root canal. I come here to have fun, not for pointless arguing and misery.

Anonymous said...

Like that Lotus Club photo or the multiple births.

What is Lotus Club photo?

destiny said...

I believe Jake is gay.

I have no problem and could care less whether Jake is straight, bi or gay.

What I do have a problem with are publicity whores who do posed photos for tabloid covers with pr-aproved made up BS, and I have a problem with people who beard and lie, and push straight as the only acceptable sexuality.

Anonymous said...

TBH, I'm losing interest in the fandom because all of this "speculation" is becoming as painful as a root canal. I come here to have fun, not for pointless arguing and misery.

I've said it before, I'll say it again - Special K is working hard, she did great things for the fandom, but looks like she is determined to kill it and undo everything.

destiny said...

By the way, if Jake isn't gay, and Austin and Sophia are for real, why did someone photoshop Jake out of photos of the three on them on the beach back in 2006?

destiny said...

Just stop with the nonsense about Special and OMG ruining WFT2. The only one trying to ruin WFT2 are some babblers, a Sophin fangirl or two, and our beloved troll Jack.

Look back over the last 400 or so posts, what, maybe 10 of them came from PG or me?

Anonymous said...

Why didn't anyone photoshop Austin out of the pictures of he and Jake over the years is a better question.

Anonymous said...

I don't care if he's straight, bi or gay either. I understand that some would not be thrilled by Hollywood coverups, and I agree. The rest of it is all speculation. I don't know whether or not he and Austin have kids, it's certainly possible. But some of the pretzel logic leaves one shaking their head. We don't see them so they must be together? Now there's a win/win situation. We don 't see the alleged children, so that must mean they are being hidden from the public and Jake is a bad parent? If you don't see the kids, how about they don't exist? But noone needs to go on the attack about it.

Anonymous said...

Just stop with the nonsense about Special and OMG ruining WFT2.

It's the truth. But you don't care about that, you prefer crazy theories.

Anonymous said...

There are about ten posts from PG today alone.

Anonymous said...

Just stop with the nonsense about Special and OMG ruining WFT2.

Please read more carefully - ruining the fandom. You'll make us all look like delusional fools.

Anonymous said...

why did someone photoshop Jake out of photos of the three on them on the beach back in 2006?

^^ 5 years ago? If Austin and Sophia was dating, Jake being taken out of the picture is something that I could see a pap or PR people of Sophia doing since Austin was the one nobody knew and probably did not have a team of people yet.
Yes it could be PR bullshit also. I was a part of the discussion back then and J/A could have been together then. That's what I believed then and now, but something that happened over 5 years ago does not mean they are together now. I believe A/S are more than just friends and it does not bother me one bit.

Also as a poster posted, the paps did not alter the Jake and Austin photos during 2004-2007 period, which is when they were together alot.

Anonymous said...

Back then Sophia DENIED that she was dating either Austin or Jake--yes, she was linked to him too when they were seen together.

But now, voila, all of a sudden she's claiming they've been dating for five years.

A phony and a liar.

Anonymous said...

I tend to wonder if Kirsten and Jake were the real deal, and that Claire and Austin were too - until J&A met each other.

First off, Jake was with Austin before Kirsten. Remember, Maggie supposedly hooked Jake up with Kirsty-girl in Septmeber 2002. Austin and Jake met probably in April/May 2002 with auditions for The Day After Tomorrow. If you looked at the timeline of Claire Oswalt and Austin's supposed relationship, she is in Spain or Massachusetts or some other place. Timelines don't match, except they went to USC together. By the way Claire is friends with Adam Levine as well and had an art exhibit...guess where last year. That's right, Marfa, Texas. Claire also showed up at a Vanity Fair party in February, 2005 all smiles...next to Austin and Jake after they supposedly had an horrendous breakdown. These closet cases are playing everyone for fools and so are their bearding accomplices.

Anonymous said...

^Sorry. I meant an horrendous breakup! LOL.

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