Sunday, 12 September 2010

A Place in the Sun

Montgomery Clift
Montgomery Clift rolling cigarette
during shooting of 'Red River', circa 1948

The Advocate: There are so many biographies of Montgomery Clift and numerous websites devoted to him. What was the biggest surprise you learned about him while researching your book?
Amy Lawrence: I was most impressed by Clift’s canny understanding of his own image. Many biographers depict him as refusing to participate in the Hollywood star system, but that didn’t mean he was ignorant of it. He understood how an actor’s image was built and maintained. In giving interviews or choosing roles, he knew exactly how to shape a performance to achieve the effect he wanted — and to resist the efforts of others to simplify a character. For instance, he was aware that screenwriters and directors often wanted to make the hero perfect; Clift wanted to make the character human, complicated, and not always admirable.

Q: Clift is often spoken of in context as a “gay actor” or in conjunction with Marlon Brando and James Dean. What do you see as Clift’s singular legacy?
A: Brando and Dean both thought of Clift as singular. Brando saw Clift as his only major competition, and Dean saw him as a model, an ideal to emulate. Unlike those performers, Clift’s best work has not become dated. In Red River, From Here to Eternity, A Place in the Sun, I Confess, and half a dozen others, his performances are impeccable. At his best he is never mannered or predictable. His performances are subtle, intelligent, graceful, and deeply empathetic regardless of the character’s flaws.

Q: How did Clift’s being gay — or bisexual, as some suggest — when it was still taboo affect his drinking, drug taking, and ultimate downward spiral?
A: The homophobia of the time, which intensified nationally just as Clift’s career was beginning in the late 1940s and early ’50s, certainly exerted pressure on Clift. A serious relationship with choreographer Jerome Robbins in the ’40s threatened both their careers when Robbins was blackmailed into testifying before the House Un-American Activities Committee hearings regarding communists and other “subversives” in Washington and the entertainment community. I would be hesitant, though, to cast Clift as a “sad young man,” “self-loathing homosexual,” or fit him into any other category into which gay men were sorted from the 1950s to ’70s. Alcoholism affects everyone, and in the postwar period heavy drinking was routine across the board. By the time Clift’s drinking became full-blown alcoholism, it was impossible to disentangle from his devastating car accident, the prescription painkillers he needed at the time, and his professional fear regarding the damage done to his face. In the latter part of his career, his drinking and drug taking were so dominant in his life that he couldn’t function without them. Paradoxically, at the point when he worked with unsupportive or openly hostile homophobic producers and directors, the drugs and drinking sustained him as much as they destroyed him.

Q: You write about the fan magazines of the 1950s that frequently used sexually suggestive headlines such as “Who Is Monty Kidding?” How well known was the truth about Clift’s sexuality during that era?
A: Clift worked in a period when fan magazines were challenged by scandal magazines, each promising “the truth” about stars’ private lives. Ironically, even the scandal rags did not want any “truth” firmly established because that would rob them of the chance to repeatedly tantalize readers with the next promised exposé. Biographical information suggests that people who worked with Clift always “knew” in exact proportion to what they wanted to know. Fans likewise. Everyone minimized the complexity of Clift’s emotional relationships — with men, older women, young women — in order to maintain the image of the actor that appealed to them most.

Q: A recent article in Newsweek suggests audiences can’t accept gay actors as romantic leading men when we know the truth about their real-life sexuality and uses Rock Hudson as an example. How do you think this applies to Clift, who had such intense chemistry on-screen with Elizabeth Taylor and other actresses?
A: When audiences think they know something about an actor’s personal sexuality it becomes available as a touchstone to spectators watching a performance but is never mandatory. People judging a performance often appreciate it most the more it varies from what we think we know about the performer — casting against type, nice people playing psychos, beautiful actresses playing ugly. If we think of Clift as an actor, then his persuasiveness as a romantic lead opposite Taylor, Olivia de Havilland, or Jennifer Jones increases our appreciation of his skill as he seems to become inseparable from the role.

Another issue is history itself. As new generations are introduced to Clift and Hudson, they often react to the performers without knowing any biographical information about them. They are also less invested in “the truth” than those who experienced a change in their perception through revelations and the exposure of secrets. The freer sexuality of Brando or Dean, for instance, has not come to dominate their images.

Q: How do you think Clift would have fared personally and professionally if he began his career today, with the intrusion of the Internet and paparazzi?
A: The intrusion of the media today is offset by the openness of some gay performers — though not romantic leading men just yet. As Tom Cruise’s career shows, it is possible to withstand rumors and media speculation if you have the power and the will to do so. Because Clift was never as closeted as Rock Hudson, I don’t believe he would fight terribly hard to maintain the illusion of offscreen heterosexuality. He might be more likely to take a Keanu Reeves approach, where the actor neither courts nor tries to dispel the fantasies of any fan. In several roles in the severely repressive 1950s he even courted audiences to read his characters — and maybe himself — as gay in the casually flirtatious scenes in Red River, the rejection of heterosexual relationships in I Confess, Suddenly, Last Summer, and Freud, the material on gay Army life that acts as a subtext throughout From Here to Eternity, and the relationship with Frank Sinatra’s character in the film.

Source: Advocate, The Most Beautiful Man in Film

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Jon Stewart on DADT said...

Are We Run By A**Holes?

Anonymous said...

2:13 Yes they do trolly and you know it.

Only this time around they don't brag about it on omg, LOL!

They are obsessive and nuts and ask the same stupid questions over again and agin, it's like they need some kind of validation form that gossip slag, sad really.

PS: They know he is full of shit because the crap he posts on TT/BT is from them, LOL!!!

Anonymous said...

Sex and Other Drugs to open AFI film fest: in cont

"I’ll be here in LA covering AFI Fest once again this fall. Typically it’s another chance to play catch-up on this title or that, but the festival does score its fair share of intriguing bows. This year, it looks like Edward Zwick’s “Love & Other Drugs” starring Jake Gyllenhaal and Best Actress hopeful Anne Hathaway will get opening night honors on November 4. Darren Aronofsky’s “Black Swan,” meanwhile, will close out the fest at a November 11 gala."

Anonymous said...

LAOD to open AFI film fest, Posted by Kristopher Tapley

Comments:

Metome said...
Jake Gyllenhaal is also getting some “Best Actor Hopeful” buzz too so you could have mentioned that.

Kristopher Tapley said...
Not in my circles. Hathaway has kind of charged to the front as the real possibility.

Anonymous said...

Jake will have his chance in Source Code. If the movie and his performance are good, that is.

Anonymous said...

Jake needs a challenging role that he masters. That's when he'll have real award winning potential again.

Adam Levine said...

Adam was asked about the attention he has gotten for hanging out with actor Jake Gyllenhaal and he comes out and says: “Will everyone stop thinking that dude is gay? Seriously guys. How immature is it of the media to perceive this guy — it has to be because of Brokeback, right? I’ve known this dude forever. He’s one of my oldest friends, and it’s very weird that they have this — it’s very immature and infantile the way they treat his whole situation. If him hanging out with his bros means he’s gay, it’s like further perpetuating that weird homophobia that exists in our culture, which is just stupid. So, yeah, he’s my buddy. I fuckin’ love the guy.”

interview

Anonymous said...

it has to be because of Brokeback, right?

No. But nice try!

If him hanging out with his bros means he’s gay...

Well, Adam, there's hanging out, and then there's "Hanging Out"

Anonymous said...

Ted certainly didn't pull Toothy out of his ass. Jake and Austin must have been more than friends for a while. If not gay, Jake must have been bi curious for awhile.
I think he's bi.

Anonymous said...

Jon Stewart on DADT said...
Are We Run By A**Holes?


Yes.

Anonymous said...

I think he's bi.

Bi with 100% men preference.

Anonymous said...

Jon Stewart on DADT said...
Are We Run By A**Holes?
Yes.


Sad, but true.

Anonymous said...

Will everyone stop thinking that dude is gay? Seriously guys. How immature is it of the media to perceive this guy — it has to be because of Brokeback, right?
Immature??? "Immature of the media" - which media?

He’s one of my oldest friends, and it’s very weird that they have this — it’s very immature and infantile the way they treat his whole situation.
Immature and infantile again? What "whole situation"?

If him hanging out with his bros means he’s gay, it’s like further perpetuating that weird homophobia that exists in our culture, which is just stupid.
So Jake isn't gay because of Brokeback, lol.

Anonymous said...

Adam Levine should have prepared a better "Jake isn't gay" answer.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Austin must have been more than friends for a while. If not gay, Jake must have been bi curious for awhile.
I think he's bi.



I have always, ALWAYS thought of Jake as being bisexual. Ted started the TT bv about him being bi from the start. I know things and people change interest in loves or lovers, but bisexual men have never been given any relevence to anything in sexual behavior. Nothing.
I think he's interested in both sexes, had a fling fuck buddy situation with Austin for a while and people got a wiff of it scared them and they are now just friends. I do believe he and Austin are bi, but since they did and do have sex with women it's easier to hide the male interest of their sexuality from the masses or those not looking for anything.
Some can and will call it totally gay if a man has sex with another man plus women, but I see it differently.

Ps And this bisexuality can be hidden from close freinds including Adam because he has dated women.

Anonymous said...

Jake is gay.

Young bisexual men don't waste years on bearding.

Anonymous said...

So Jake isn't gay because of Brokeback, lol.

LOL. Exactly. I know the interview was with Out Magazine, but the interviewer didn't say anything about Jake being gay, yet that's still where Adam immediately went with his answer. Over protesting much, Adam?

Anonymous said...

they did and do have sex with women

Nah, Jake would date women if he cared about sex with them.

Anonymous said...

If him hanging out with his bros means he’s gay, it’s like further perpetuating that weird homophobia that exists in our culture, which is just stupid.

Thinking / believing / saying that someone is gay is homophobia?

Anonymous said...

Jake is gay.

Young bisexual men don't waste years on bearding.


I don't think Jenny Lewis or Dunst were beards. The Witherspoon thing seemed off at times that's why many screamed "bearding", but we don't know what went on. Reeke very obviously used their relationship for fame whoring though.

Anonymous said...

I think he's interested in both sexes, had a fling fuck buddy situation with Austin for a while and people got a wiff of it scared them and they are now just friends.

I have the same impression.

Though, in the end only Jake (and Austin for that matter) knows the truth.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Jenny Lewis or Dunst were beards.

Jenny Lewis - I bet she was Jake's Heather:

"Can You Believe They Dated?
Heather Locklear & Tom Cruise
"I don't think we kissed. It was more friends," Locklear has said of her short-lived 1982 romance with Cruise."

Anonymous said...

Over protesting much, Adam?

I think Adam genuinely believes Jake isn't gay.

Anonymous said...

Nah, Jake would date women if he cared about sex with them.

^ Well, since I have not been in any bedroom witnessing Jake having sex with a woman or a MAN, I can't say for sure that he has had sex with any of them, MAN or woman.
But I do know for sure that Kirsten and he has stated they were dating and I believe them. I also believe Jake dated the Jenny girl whoever she is. I have seen pictures of a younger Jake with her. What I am saying is that it is not beyond comprehension that he has and do have sex with women and for that matter MEN also for all that beleive he's bi or just totally gay or str8. I beleive he's bi.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Jenny Lewis or Dunst were beards.

All I'm sure about Jake's relationship with Dunst is that he "dated" her because he couldn't date a guy.

W scan from 2005, Jake about Dunst:
"Though he calls Dunst "a doll", and says they've been hanging out a lot this summer, Gyllenhaal hesitates to define their relationship. "It's something that's progressing," he says. "It's hard to talk about it because of that."

Anonymous said...

I think Adam genuinely believes Jake isn't gay.

Yeah, right, just like Natalie! lol

Anonymous said...

I don't think Lewis or Dunst were beards either, but that's a lot of years ago. Not unusual at all for gay guys to have dated women. NPH slept with lots of them. Plus, notice how no one can come up with anyone besides Jenny Lewis and Dunst as examples of women he's actually dated and the guy is going to be 31.

The Witherspoon thing seemed off at times

The Witherspoon thing was off the entire time. Out of all the women in HW or anyone where else that Jake could've gone out with there is no way that Reese is the one he wanted and was "in love" with. Please. It was painful to watch.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, right, just like Natalie! lol

Why not?

Maybe Jake keeps his flings with men private, but is open about flings/relationships with women?

Anonymous said...

But I do know for sure that Kirsten and he has stated they were dating and I believe them.

Then you also believe Jake from 2005 when he "hesitated to define their relationship" and said "It's something that's progressing," he says. "It's hard to talk about it because of that."
Poor Jake was tired of lying.

Anonymous said...

W scan from 2005, Jake about Dunst:
"Though he calls Dunst "a doll", and says they've been hanging out a lot this summer, Gyllenhaal hesitates to define their relationship. "It's something that's progressing," he says. "It's hard to talk about it because of that."


They dated from 2002 to 2004. Then broke it off for a short while and tried it again in 2005, but it obviously didn't work out.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, right, just like Natalie! lol
Why not?


Jake can't his gayness from his fans and gossip lovers, how on Earth could he hide it from his long time friends? And why would he hide it from his good friends?

Anonymous said...

They dated from 2002 to 2004. Then broke it off for a short while and tried it again in 2005, but it obviously didn't work out.

They were on-off-on-off, no one knows how long they really "dated". Smoke and mirrors.

Anonymous said...

The Witherspoon thing was off the entire time. Out of all the women in HW or anyone where else that Jake could've gone out with there is no way that Reese is the one he wanted and was "in love" with. Please. It was painful to watch.

Not claiming it was the real deal. But Reese was America's sweetheart, was successful and had an Oscar in her bag. She was definitely the "it girl" 2005/06. Like Kirsten was when she and Jake stared dating.

Anonymous said...

Reese Witherspoon wasn't "it girl" 2005/06, she was dull and uninteresting actress who needed someone else to get media attention.

Anonymous said...

Jake can't his gayness from his fans and gossip lovers, how on Earth could he hide it from his long time friends? And why would he hide it from his good friends?

Or maybe he just isn't gay?
I bet most of young Hollywood experimented with the same sex. It's probably no biggie for them. Maybe Jake was just one of the many who tried out (with Austin?)?

Anonymous said...

Or maybe he just isn't gay?

Yeah, maybe he's asexual or just prefers celibacy.

Anonymous said...

Reese Witherspoon wasn't "it girl" 2005/06, she was dull and uninteresting actress who needed someone else to get media attention.

Walk The Line was a huge hit and she got an Oscar. And she wasn't even 30. Big thing, if you ask me.

Anonymous said...

That was big thing for a few months.

Anonymous said...

Why can't people just appreciate actors like NPH or singers like Ricky Martin and stop obsessing over some alleged closet cases in Hollywood?

Anonymous said...

We appreciate NPH and Ricky Martin, and love to gossip about closet cases like Jake.

destiny said...

LOL. Exactly. I know the interview was with Out Magazine, but the interviewer didn't say anything about Jake being gay, yet that's still where Adam immediately went with his answer. Over protesting much, Adam?

Ditto.

Also, sounds like maybe Adam has a problem with people thinking he's gay by association, so have to shoot down the Jake is gay rumors.


Thinking / believing / saying that someone is gay is homophobia?

It seems to me that the people who say this sort of thing are the ones who are homophobic themselves. Only someone who thinks being gay is a bad thing thinks it is a bad thing to talk about someeone being gay.

Anonymous said...

We appreciate NPH and Ricky Martin, and love to gossip about closet cases like Jake.

Alleged closet case Jake. ;)

Anonymous said...

Ex-bearding closet case JG.

Anonymous said...

"I bet most of young Hollywood experimented with the same sex. It's probably no biggie for them"

I agree with the first sentence.. but, no biggie???!! Hollywood actors still fight homosexual rumours like hell! Even the younger ones

Anonymous said...

That was big thing for a few months.

True, but no one expected how deep the mighty would fall.

Anonymous said...

Hollywood actors still fight homosexual rumours like hell! Even the younger ones

No biggie among them, but they sure don't talk about it publicly...just a very few.

Anonymous said...

Jake is getting a lot more attention because of it. Perhaps he should be thankful for the gay rumors? ;)

Anonymous said...

He’s one of my oldest friends, and it’s very weird that they have this — it’s very immature and infantile the way they (media) treat his whole situation.

WTF is Adam Levine talking about? He's afraid of gay rumors?

destiny said...

And what does he mean by media--gossip sites?

Anonymous said...

I believe Jake is very much bothered by the gay rumors and obvioulsy his friends know about his annoyance.

Anonymous said...

Ditto.

Also, sounds like maybe Adam has a problem with people thinking he's gay by association, so have to shoot down the Jake is gay rumors.


you could be right, but he could also truly believe his friend Jake is NOT gay because either:
1. He has seen Jake dating
women/girls throughout the years of knowing him
2. Jake has not come out or told him he's gay or bi personally
3. If Jake is really gay or bi he hides it like so many others
4. Most unassuming people think people are straight unless they give off gay stereotypical mannerisms / attitudes. Sorry, but it's true. And Jake does not. Just as so many other gay and bi men.
5. Either Jake has told Adam that he is straight and tired of the BS gossip and he's telling the truth or he's lying. Even still Adam takes it at face value.

Personally I don't think Adam would have a problem with it "now". They are both artist.
Also, Adam was being interviewed by a gay magazine. It's not hard to figure out why he was asked about Jake. Adam knew. And he gave his thoughts.

Anonymous said...

To me Adam sounds like he's talking about the present situation - and that simply doesn't make sense, not about gossip sites nor serious media.

Anonymous said...

Either Jake has told Adam that he is straight and tired of the BS gossip and he's telling the truth or he's lying. Even still Adam takes it at face value.

They know each other 14-15 years, Adam is using Internet - there is no way Adam really thinks Jake is straight and I can't imagine Jake being closeted with his long time friends.

Anonymous said...

They know each other 14-15 years, Adam is using Internet - there is no way Adam really thinks Jake is straight

But maybe he does, you know?

Anonymous said...

also:

If Jake is gay or bisexual and NOT ready to Come OUT, he "would" have problems with it. Most people who are not ready yet go thru this. Now put the media and celebrity in it.

Now if he's really straight, it could really be a mental disaster and a wierd place to be in life with everyone thinking you're lying and the endless rumors. There are some feminine and gay acting men who are straight. And most people think they are gay. just saying

Anonymous said...

I think the tragedy is that most people couldn't really care whether Jake is gay or straight now. A few years ago this might have been news worthy but now its just a big bad meh.

Only thing this does is make anyone (including us losers still reading this blog) now start thinking where does Adam L fit into the Austin / Chris / anothher lover mix.

One things for sure, whoever he's really been dating it certainly was never Reese.

Anonymous said...

They know each other 14-15 years, Adam is using Internet - there is no way Adam really thinks Jake is straight and I can't imagine Jake being closeted with his long time friends.

Wait a minute. Who are YOU? And how is it you know the whole truth about what Adam is thinking?
speculation is one thing, but acting as if you have all facts about someone you don't know is just your spin and your opinion.
That's the truth.

Anonymous said...

They know each other 14-15 years, Adam is using Internet - there is no way Adam really thinks Jake is straight
But maybe he does, you know?


Impossible. Do you really believe Jake lied for years about the chin to Adam?

Anonymous said...

speculation is one thing, but acting as if you have all facts about someone you don't know is just your spin and your opinion

You are new here?
Everyone here knows we are speculating, discussing out opinions, goes without saying.

Anonymous said...

discussing our opinions

Anonymous said...

Levine didn't mention media sites Destiny, just media. So simmer down and change your panties.

Anonymous said...

Impossible. Do you really believe Jake lied for years about the chin to Adam?


^ Who cares and that's not the point. Nobody can convince YOU that Jake and Reese were real and maybe the were not. It has NOTHING to do with Adam believing his friend Jake is gay if Jake has not told him he is, and Adam knowing and seeing what he has during their friendship as it pretains to Jake and dating women/girls in the past.

Anonymous said...

Gemma Arterton, Natalie Portman and Adam Levine all talked about Jake like he's straight. I think Heath, too. So either they're all lying or they don't know he's gay.

Anonymous said...

Impossible. Do you really believe Jake lied for years about the chin to Adam?

Either that or our Jakey boy really isn't gay.

Anonymous said...

Levine didn't mention media sites Destiny, just media. So simmer down and change your panties.

What media besides some gossip sites? Adam talks BS.

Anonymous said...

Either that or our Jakey boy really isn't gay.

Adam can write a book about straight Jake, but nothing can undo the
(bearding) past and Jake's gayness.

Anonymous said...

Either that or our Jakey boy really isn't gay.

Really? Adam would never lie for a friend? Natalie would never lie for a friend?

Anonymous said...

Adam can write a book about straight Jake, but nothing can undo the
(bearding) past and Jake's gayness.


It's still not a fact that he's gay and was bearding with that stupid midget.

Only Jake knows the truth about himself.

Anonymous said...

5:42 PM: Really? Adam would never lie for a friend? Natalie would never lie for a friend?

But why bother lying? Just not talk about it would be much smarter.

Anonymous said...

Wrong 5:44 PM, we know that Jake bearded with that stupid midget, 10.000 photos told us so.

Anonymous said...

Wrong 5:44 PM, we know that Jake bearded with that stupid midget, 10.000 photos told us so.

It's ridic to claim to KNOW any facts about Jake's life. But whatever.

Anonymous said...

It's still not a fact that he's gay and was bearding with that stupid midget.

Only Jake knows the truth about himself.



You can state this until the cows come home, some people believe their truths and continue to state it as FACT. as if the know. kind of sad really. Only Jake truly knows. that's the truth

Anonymous said...

But why bother lying? Just not talk about it would be much smarter.

Adam obviously has a problem with gay rumors, he was answering the question "You’ve also gotten a lot of attention for hanging out with Jake Gyllenhaal.".

Anonymous said...

we know that Jake bearded with that stupid midget, 10.000 photos told us so.


^^ This is called desparation ^^

Desparate for him to be gay to appease this person.

He may be gay, bi or str8.
Only Jake knows. and complaining about Reese and what one sees as bearding, some could care less about or see a real realationship. Yes, they can specualate also. Whatever one sees.

Anonymous said...

This is called desparation

That is called common sense, using your brain and not buying obvious tabloid and PR bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Adam obviously has a problem with gay rumors, he was answering the question "You’ve also gotten a lot of attention for hanging out with Jake Gyllenhaal.".

Yes, maybe Jake has a problem with the rumors too and Levine knows about it?

Anonymous said...

Desparate for him to be gay to appease this person.

LMAO!
I bet you believe Bradley Cooper & Renee Zellweger are really dating. You do, don't you?

Anonymous said...

That is called common sense, using your brain and not buying obvious tabloid and PR bullshit.

I can only speak for myself. I form my own opinions, not what tabloids feed me. I think J & R used "Reeke" to promote themselves and their projects, but it may not have been fake (whatever that means). But Reeke was a mistake nevertheless.

Anonymous said...

I form my own opinions, not what tabloids feed me.

Good. Do you believe that Bradley Cooper & Renee Zellweger are really dating?

Anonymous said...

Good. Do you believe that Bradley Cooper & Renee Zellweger are really dating?

I'm not a fan of either and don't follow them. I don't care.
I'm here because I became a fan of Jake's after BBM and because I was intrigued by Toothy Tile.

6:04 PM said...

Now it's not so much TT that makes me come back to WFT 2, but I'm seriously addicted to this board and chatting with you guys. :D

Anonymous said...

I don't follow them either, two posts with pictures were enough to see how 100% fake they are.

Anonymous said...

Renee seems nice, but Bradley Cooper looks like he despises the situation where he's forced into bearding.

Anonymous said...

I'm seriously addicted to this board and chatting with you guys. :D

Awwwwwww :) *damn, I can't trash her/him after that*

Anonymous said...

Awwwwwww :) *damn, I can't trash her/him after that*

Thanks. ;)

Anonymous said...

Yes, maybe Jake has a problem with the rumors too and Levine knows about it?

Hmmm... If Jake had a major problem with gay rumors I think he would work harder on his PR. For example, he had a lot of opportunities to lie about "relationship" with ex-beard, but he didn't.

new pics said...

Even cupcakes can't cheer up Keanu Reeves.

Anonymous said...

Why do we need Jake Gyllenhaal to be gay or to come out (if he is gay)? I bet much more cool celebs in film, music and sports world will come out, out and proud, in the near future. I'm confident about it. :)

Anonymous said...

Even cupcakes can't cheer up Keanu Reeves.

Aww. Cheer up Keanu!

Anonymous said...

That's interesting. Now Jake needs a big ? to tubthump for him? Isn't Levine a big ol' mo on the DL himself?

Way to go in bringing up the gay rumors yet AGAIN! Seriously who reps these people? What are they thinking?

Are they that desperate for attention for Jake? Heck his films are bad enough!

Anonymous said...

Isn't Levine a big ol' mo on the DL himself?

I wouldn't count DL as a credible source, since everyone can post and pretend to be in the know. I wouldn't be surprised, however, if Adam Levine had his fair share of sexual experimentations.

Anonymous said...

Only Jake knows the truth about himself.

LOL. This same absurd line has been repeated over at DC Forum about 895,000 times. what nonsense.

Obviously, Jake is NOT the only person who knows the truth about himself. How is that even possible? You don't think the people he's had sex with don't know the "truth" about him? You don't think the guys he's asked to "hang out" with him don't know the truth about him?(Hello-Hello, J.G. Francis). You don't think his family members don't know the truth about him? You think it's possible for him to completely hide his sexuality from his close circle of friends? From his agent, his manager, his personal assistants? Once two people know something, there is no such thing as keeping a secret.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't count DL as a credible source

LOL. "On the DL" means on the "down-low."

Anonymous said...

Why do we need Jake Gyllenhaal to be gay or to come out (if he is gay)?

No one "needs it" - but you're on a Waiting for Toothy site, what do you think we're going to talk about? lol

Anonymous said...

LOL. "On the DL" means on the "down-low."

Ooops. LOL.

Anonymous said...

I would like to hear about a man that actually had sex with Jake, not some 2nd or 3rd hand stories,just from the man himself.

And no JG Francis I almost touched his penis post doesn't count because he neither touched his penis nor sucked it!!

No, struggling writer Francis likes boobs and pussy, LOL!

tweet said...

blackmarketboo: Just asked Jake gyllenhaal for a picture, he said "no, but thanks for asking"
14 minutes

tweet said...

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Anonymous said...

For example, he had a lot of opportunities to lie about "relationship" with ex-beard, but he didn't.

tbh, I think the whole bearding thing was very uncomfortable for Jake. I tend to think he wasn't proud of himself for doing it.

Anonymous said...

I think Jake didn't want to shove Reeke too much down people's throats in interviews. They were public enough with all the pap pics. One should not exaggerate.

Anonymous said...

jfc, 6:54pm, calm down, lol. That sounds creepy, tbh. And if some guy posted that he did have sex with Jake, you would say you didn't believe him, lol.

Anonymous said...

That is called common sense, using your brain and not buying obvious tabloid and PR bullshit.
***
No it's called some could give a rats ass if Jake G is straight or gay. Did you know these people do exist? Only people obsessed with a persons sexuality are offended.
If the man is gay So What.
Has nothing to do with grocery store tabs. Most people ignore them.

Anonymous said...

Only Jake knows the truth about himself.

LOL. This same absurd line has been repeated over at DC Forum about 895,000 times. what nonsense.



^^ and yet, YOU still don't understand or Realize, it's the truth. No matter what your speculations are. It's really simple.

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't count DL as a credible source, since everyone can post and pretend to be in the know.

Huh? That is true for ALL forums and gossip sites.
DL gays are the most credible gay gossip source.

datalounge said...

Comment:

I bet Jake meets up with him and whines 'Aaaaadam, they still call me gaaaay!' and Adam goes:

"Don't worry Jakey baby, my macho posturing all over err, OUT magazine will sort THEM out!"

Jake, thanks to this I think you're even more gay! Well done!

Anonymous said...

LOL at 7:58PM completely ignoring the rest of the post at 6:48PM. Jake doesn't live on Mars and he doesn't live in a vacuum. It is literally impossible that he is the only person in the world who knows the truth about his sexuality and you know it. But that talking point still gets repeated.

Anonymous said...

YOU still don't understand or Realize, it's the truth.

No, it isn't.
That is just a lame line used by people determined to deny Jake's gayness. People who are ignoring the truth, "forgetting" that we did know about so many closeted celebrities before they came of or were outed.

Anonymous said...

Adam Levine Confirms Jake Gyllenhaal's Not Gay

Perez

Anonymous said...

LOL at 7:58PM completely ignoring the rest of the post at 6:48PM. Jake doesn't live on Mars and he doesn't live in a vacuum. It is literally impossible that he is the only person in the world who knows the truth about his sexuality and you know it. But that talking point still gets repeated.

If Jake is gay and his friends know it, why do they keep alluding to/telling everyone he's straight? Why don't they just keep quiet? But there is a possibility they allude/say it because Jake really might not be gay.

Anonymous said...

If Jake is gay and his friends know it, why do they keep alluding to/telling everyone he's straight?

Because some silly people like you might actually believe it! Duh!!!

Anonymous said...

Because some silly people like you might actually believe it! Duh!!!

You call me silly? Alright then.

wow said...

milestrahan: Friend of mine is at a party with Wes Anderson, Jake Gyllenhaal and Mick Jagger. I'm on a crowded train heading home. #FML
about 1 hour ago

Anonymous said...

You call me silly? Alright then.

Only if you believe Adam's bullshit.

Anonymous said...

SannaHaynes: Well that audition took a while, but went well. And I saw Jake Gyllenhaal on the lot. Be jealous, ladies.
about 2 hours ago

Anonymous said...

But there is a possibility they allude/say it because Jake really might not be gay.

There is no possibility that Jake really dated the chin. You can't compare bearding for years with few sentences from Adam or Natalie. Jake is gay.

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Anonymous said...

If Jake is gay and his friends know it, why do they keep alluding to/telling everyone he's straight?

You mean why do Jake's FRIENDS HELP him lie about his sexuality, why don't they let him beard and lie on his own?

Anonymous said...

Its not Adams place to tell the world if Jake is gay or not. He is doing it to quash any implications that he himself is gay by association with Jake. Ill admit Ive wondered if they ever had sex. Its also perfectly logical that Adam would not know the truth as he knew Jake in grade school and high school, exactly when Jake would have been hiding his sexuality and maybe not even sure yet that he was gay. What Adam needs to ask himself is why a 30 year old single man that looks like Jake has no interest in dating women. And voila. The answer appears. Hes gay.

Anonymous said...

8:39 PM - now look what you have done, our trolly is upset because not even Adam can't turn Jake straight!!! LOL

Anonymous said...

He is doing it to quash any implications that he himself is gay by association with Jake.

It looks like it, can't believe Adam is such a jerk.

Anonymous said...

What Adam needs to ask himself is why a 30 year old single man that looks like Jake has no interest in dating women. And voila. The answer appears. Hes gay.

Or very choosy, or shy with women he really likes. Happens.

Anonymous said...

It looks like it, can't believe Adam is such a jerk.

Adam is a jerk. He's not determined to prove Jake is straight rather that he isn't befriended with a gay guy.

Anonymous said...

Jake is not very choosy and is not shy with anyone.

Anonymous said...

Jake is not very choosy and is not shy with anyone.

I see him as choosy and maybe shy and insecure sometimes which he tries to hide by excessively joking. JMO.

Anonymous said...

Or very choosy, or shy with women he really likes.

You need to make up your mind - do you believe that or do you believe that Jake ever dated a female? You can't have it both!

Anonymous said...

I see him as choosy

Give us just one example.

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Anonymous said...

^^ Awww, trolly is still unhappy! :)

Adam "gay friendly" Levine said...

I'm a nortorious pussy-hound and don't hang around fags!

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Anonymous said...

Give us just one example.

For instance his movies. He often chooses movies with some (subtle) political message in them, there are exceptions though (PoP).
Sometimes even if he, in his opinion, chooses well, it doesn't mean critics or audiences will like it too.
Perhaps it's the same with partners, at first he thinks "bingo" after looking for a long time, but then the dissapionment sets in. Perhaps he's choosy, but still doesn't always choose well.

Anonymous said...

Or very choosy, or shy with women he really likes. Happens.

You think Jake wants to date women? Based on what? Russia party video?

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Anonymous said...

new pics said...
Even cupcakes can't cheer up Keanu Reeves.


Made me laugh, sorry Keanu!

Anonymous said...

What Adam needs to ask himself is why a 30 year old single man that looks like Jake has no interest in dating women. And voila. The answer appears. Hes gay.

get real or grow up will you. If Jake even takes a look at a woman you and all the "he's gay and one of us loons" will mock him, take stabs at him and call him names because he has not come out to make you smile with glee or date him. when he's in the presents of any young man you droll as if he's just asked you to join he and the guy and the guy could be a friend or a cousin, friend. Then all kinds of "did he or didn't he" comments go on endlessly. When he is seen with any woman it's a beard to throw you off of his gayness. Get real with yourself if not anyone else will you. You are so stuck on the possibility of Jake being just like you that no other logical possibility of his sexuality exist in your mind. Talk about lame and one side spin. Please. Your limited experience of only gay men reality is distored. I know this is a wft gay Jake blog, but some here are a bunch of know it all children who need for Jake to be gay for them. and hypocritical gay people who want exceptance and love but in the same breath bash Jake to no end because they think he's gay. WoW. Not one ounce of giving the guy the benefit of the doubt on anything. he has to be gay at all cost. and the stupid, childish reeke pr photo ops bullshit that constantly gets thrown around here sounds like desparate grade school kids. Jake being straght/bi/gay should not be an issue here, especially for some who preach exceptance, but only exceptance when its what you want. And Jake being gay is what you want "now". If he is gay or bi and in the closet, coming out of the closet to the support(??) of some of you would be the last thing he needs. give the man a break and stop being so damn self righteous ******

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Anonymous said...

Love this comment from dlisted. I misread Levine's comment. I thought he said, "I love fuckin' the guy!" probably more accurate than his original statement. It appears PR is trying to straighten Jake up pre LAOD promo.

Anonymous said...

More Public Relations excuses?

Why does everything has to be about PR trying to straighten Jake out? this has been used for so long. Do you not think Jake has a mind of his own?

Anonymous said...

No. Jakes bearding with Reese proved he does not have a mind of his own.

Dlisteds take on it: "Duly noted, the sequel! Everyone got that, again? Jakey is straighter than a southern baptist pastor! Err, bad example. Okay, let me try this again... Jakey is straighter than a conservative member of New Zealand's parliament! Okay, another shit example. Basically, what I'm getting at is that Ted Casablanca has some explaining to do! P.S. - Jakey is still Toothy Tile to me, now and forever."

LAOD Review said...

"Just saw Love and Other Drugs at an advanced screening—not good. It had way too much going on, just like the trailer. Hathaway might have been good, but I was too blinded by how tasteless and scattered the rest of the film was to really notice her performance."

Anonymous said...

No. Jakes bearding with Reese proved he does not have a mind of his own.

LOL how could you possibly know what's in Jake's mind?

Anonymous said...

10:48 PM - stupid trolly :)

Anonymous said...

LOL how could you possibly know what's in Jake's mind?

Easy - we followed the showmance.

Anonymous said...

Your limited experience of only gay men reality is distored.

Keep pretending that GAY MEN who know Jake is gay don't exist.

Anonymous said...

“Will everyone stop thinking that dude is gay?" - Adam Levine

I bet Adam thinks no one in Hollywood has ever had plastic surgery either.

Anonymous said...

Adam isn't very bright, but he isn't stupid either - he's a (bad) liar.

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Anonymous said...

Sorry 6:06 AM, the laugh is on you - YOU are following and posting on Jake is gay blog because YOU don't believe for a second that he might be straight.

DL comment said...

You know...Levine doth protest too much. There are pics of him online where he made himself up to look like Brad in Fight Club. He seems to only date professional models, the women most likely to beard. I'd bet a million bucks that he and Jake played doctor many times as kids.

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Anonymous said...

Poor silly trolly.

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Anonymous said...

Trolly is going for a record number of deletions this morning!

Anonymous said...

Jake being straght/bi/gay should not be an issue here, especially for some who preach exceptance, but only exceptance when its what you want.

What we want? Jake bearded because we wanted him to prove his gayness in public? Really?

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Anonymous said...

And Jake being gay is what you want "now". If he is gay or bi and in the closet, coming out of the closet to the support(??) of some of you would be the last thing he needs. give the man a break and stop being so damn self righteous ******

What do you want, what is your point? You agree with Adam that being gay is a bad thing so we shouldn't discuss it?

Anonymous said...

Even if Jake gets married to a woman and has a couple of kids (it probably will happen sooner or later), some people will still believe he is gay.

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Anonymous said...

7:52 AM, we know that you KNOW this, but let me repeat - some gay men marry women and have kids, being married to a woman is no proof that man isn't gay.

Anonymous said...

7:52 AM - do you believe that marriage with a woman can turn gay man straight?

Anonymous said...

No. But I think Jake is bi.

Anonymous said...

More of the same talking points this morning, lol. In addition to the silly "only Jake knows the truth," (impossible), we now have the old "even if he marries and has kids, blah, blah," as if gay men never get married and have kids. If you truly believed that Jake is straight,you would ignore this site. But you obviously can't ;)

Anonymous said...

Well then they're homophobes not "fans." They "accuse" him of being gay as if it were something to be ashamed of. They know perfectly well it's hurtful in a million ways large and small.

Because he "bottomed" for Heath, he has borne the brunt of criticism. Some people will never get over it. These are not fans. These are sick, despicable pieces of crap.

They accuse him of lying about his sexuality and being 'closeted' which is a f#*king insult, when he has said on more than one occasion that he is not gay.

Jake's been the personification of "grace under pressure" and he's never abandoned his convictions as if they were a suit of clothes you take off or put on when it's expedient.

So all those so-called "fans" you're referring to, "JF," can shove it where the sun don't shine until they choke to death on their own venom.

Anonymous said...

Bi men can date women without cheating with men.

Anonymous said...

^^gyllenbaboon loon

Anonymous said...

They accuse him of lying about his sexuality and being 'closeted' which is a f#*king insult, when he has said on more than one occasion that he is not gay.

Jake is closeted and lies about his sexuality. Truth hurts, but can not be an insult.

Anonymous said...

Adam Levine: Jake Gyllenhaal Is Not Gay

ONTD

Anonymous said...

^^gyllenbaboon loon

LMAO!! Oh yeah, I was about to type "Babbler Alert at 8:52AM" and I haven't been to Babblers in ages. So obvious. Bobbyanna, honey, you do realize that by coming here with your phony sanctimony and delusions, that you're only proving that deep down in your little heart you know Jake isn't straight. Because, otherwise, Bobbyanna, you wouldn't get your panties in such a great big knotted bunch over what we say here ;) Now, run back to UV and the gang so they can give you the pats on the back you're looking for and you can fall all over each with praise for defending your man, lol.

Anonymous said...

Keep pretending that GAY MEN who know Jake is gay don't exist.

^^ Are you one of them?

If you are not, anyone could say they are. How difficult is that to understand for you. Unless there are proven photos or someone is willing to openly discuss it, it's all talk. Please stop with the grade school "it's the Reeke photo op reasons".

Anonymous said...

9:16 YOU WERE THE ONE THAT REPOSTED THAT AT 8:52.

You are lying when you say you say you haven't visited there recently, you are for same strange reason obsesed with that site you claim you despise.

"Bobbyanna" didn't re-post that you did, now go back to OMG you jaustinloon and go play with your clit thinking abit BT and Ted!

Anonymous said...

So do we hate Adam now? When and how should we smear him?

Anonymous said...

What is "grade school" about proof that Jake was bearding and lying about his sexuality???

Anonymous said...

Who is Bobbyanna? Man, woman?

Anonymous said...

So do we hate Adam now?

Just disappointed because he's not a smart guy.

Anonymous said...

This was a big blunder on Adam's part. It comes off as protesting too much. Totally backfiring. Why get people talking about it for chrissakes? Interesting, too, that this ends up as a story in HuffPo. I think they ran that stupid non-story about Jake looking at the girl at the Laker game also.

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Anonymous said...

Q: You’ve also gotten a lot of attention for hanging out with Jake Gyllenhaal.

Adam Levine: Will everyone stop thinking that dude is gay? ...

Adam is an idiot.

Anonymous said...

My opinion that Jake is bi is not based on Toothy, BBM or Austin. I think he had a thing for HL and vice versa. I think HL was bi too.

Anonymous said...

Jakes parents have had posts on HuffPo, so perhaps they are doing them a favor, LOL!

And yes it's a non-story so stop geting your panties in a knot, outside of jake's dwindling fandom and a few shitty blogs, who gives a fuck

9:16AM said...

9:33AM, sorry, but you are insane. I'm not 8:55AM, and your accusation doesn't even make sense. Oh, and I'm not a Jaustin believer, either, btw :) You really need to stop before your head explodes, lol.

Anonymous said...

And yes it's a non-story so stop geting your panties in a knot, outside of jake's dwindling fandom and a few shitty blogs, who gives a fuck

LOL, I guess you do, cuz you're here and posting!

Anonymous said...

we know that you KNOW this, but let me repeat - some gay men marry women and have kids, being married to a woman is no proof that man isn't gay.


Ok, do gay women marry men and have kids? Or do they get a pass and have sex with both and still not be called the GAY? Or is this just reserved for men?

Anonymous said...

This was a big blunder on Adam's part.

I don't think so, it looks like his comment is doing its job fine if you go by ONTD comments. Only a few ONTDers still say Jake's gay, there used to be a lot more in the past.

Anonymous said...

No one really cares about female sexuality. Men go to the movies to see cool men, women go to the movies to see sexy or interesting men. There is a reason why best paid movie actors get 2 or 3 times more money than best paid actresses.

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some of ONTD comments said...

Jake is gay for Adam
Adam is clearly gay for Jake.
tomorrow: one of them comes out. stay tuned.
people have thought he was gay way before Brokeback
still gay
I'd die a happy man if i saw a jake + adam porn.
this makes like no sense? but it's sweet i guess
it's like further perpetuating that weird homophobia that exists in our culture, which is just stupid - You know what else perpetuates that weird homophobia that exists in our culture, which is just stupid? - Getting so fucking offended when someone suggests they or their friend might be gay.
Never mind that by going "omg its so childish to think he's gay" he's advocating a passive form of homophobia that somehow assuming someone is gay is horrid and childish and wrong, but assuming he's straight is a-ok because, like duh, everyone in the world is straight by default!
but he is gay, tho
...

Anonymous said...

^^many of the comments were written in a joking manner. You realize that, right?

Anonymous said...

Who is Bobbyanna? Man, woman?

It is a curious little creature known as a babblelus imperfecto. This animal inhabits a very small corner of the internet. They run in small packs, and their matng call is JiS-JiS, which can be identified by it's high pitched shrill sound.

Anonymous said...

You can write about gay Jake in many different ways.

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Ted with nothing new to say said...

Bitch Back


Dear Ted:
I hate the idea that bearding works, but I suspect that some of my fave celebrities are playing that game big time, and I am torn because I want them to be successful but happy too. I would guess that one could say that bearding has definitely helped guys like Toothy. He seems pretty successful, but what if he hadn't played that game? What about Judas Jack-Off and Dashed Dingle-Dream? Has bearding seemed to help their careers any, or is it too soon to tell? Is success always determined by getting bigger and better roles on TV or in movies, or could it also be that bearding actors get to keep jobs they have and like but with more money or other perks?
—Supercurios

Dear No Shave November:
If it sounds a bit dramatic, well, it's Hollywood, but if Toothy, Judas or any of ‘em came out, their careers would be over. It's different for A-list move stars like T2 compared to say Neil Patrick Harris—whole different rules. Totally lame, but that's how it is.


Dear Ted:
Did you hear the good news about Florida? We finally lifted the ban on adoptions by gays! Baby steps (pun intended). Not much about Toothy Tile or Grey Goose lately. Any new tales to tell?
—XXOO

Dear Gator Gold:
Kudos to Florida! Now if Cali could only get its act together, we'd keep making those baby steps. T2 and G2 haven't been making much of a splash lately. Grey's been super busy with work, while Toothy is enjoying a bit of down time. When did these two become so friggin' boring?

Anonymous said...

Ted is a joke.

Ouch said...

In case anyone was wondering, LOVE AND OTHER DRUGS is one of the worst films I've seen in a while. Should come off any and all Oscar lists.

Suzanne Day

Anonymous said...

Grey's been super busy with work

With PR work.

Anonymous said...

In case anyone was wondering, LOVE AND OTHER DRUGS is one of the worst films I've seen in a while.

I bet Suzanne has a problem with tits, lol.

Anonymous said...

Why because she doesn't like the movie? Give me a break. Are you going to say that when Ebert and other well-respected critics say the same thing? Suzanne's comments sound like A LOT of comments voiced by intelligent people who have seen the film--not horny men or unsophisticated kids.

DL comment said...

Anyone posting that Jake G is straight is cute, too. And doesn't know him or anyone who does. Or live in LA and see him out and about.

Jake and Adam Levine have a lot in common: The same age, rich, spoiled, arrogant Jews from Beverly Hills. But I doubt they see each other any more than anyone else sees high-shool friends, if they're living in the same city.

Jake has one life. Adam has a different life (and he's straight, by the way). They both know how to play the game, and Adam Levine is not about to say anything that might bother his old school chum, who might get him hired one day.

Anonymous said...

Suzanne's comments sound like A LOT of comments voiced by intelligent people who have seen the film--not horny men or unsophisticated kids.

There aren't A LOT of comments about LAOD, good or bad. Why are you making shit up?

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