Montgomery Clift rolling cigarette
during shooting of 'Red River', circa 1948
during shooting of 'Red River', circa 1948
The Advocate: There are so many biographies of Montgomery Clift and numerous websites devoted to him. What was the biggest surprise you learned about him while researching your book?
Amy Lawrence: I was most impressed by Clift’s canny understanding of his own image. Many biographers depict him as refusing to participate in the Hollywood star system, but that didn’t mean he was ignorant of it. He understood how an actor’s image was built and maintained. In giving interviews or choosing roles, he knew exactly how to shape a performance to achieve the effect he wanted — and to resist the efforts of others to simplify a character. For instance, he was aware that screenwriters and directors often wanted to make the hero perfect; Clift wanted to make the character human, complicated, and not always admirable.
Q: Clift is often spoken of in context as a “gay actor” or in conjunction with Marlon Brando and James Dean. What do you see as Clift’s singular legacy?
A: Brando and Dean both thought of Clift as singular. Brando saw Clift as his only major competition, and Dean saw him as a model, an ideal to emulate. Unlike those performers, Clift’s best work has not become dated. In Red River, From Here to Eternity, A Place in the Sun, I Confess, and half a dozen others, his performances are impeccable. At his best he is never mannered or predictable. His performances are subtle, intelligent, graceful, and deeply empathetic regardless of the character’s flaws.
Q: How did Clift’s being gay — or bisexual, as some suggest — when it was still taboo affect his drinking, drug taking, and ultimate downward spiral?
A: The homophobia of the time, which intensified nationally just as Clift’s career was beginning in the late 1940s and early ’50s, certainly exerted pressure on Clift. A serious relationship with choreographer Jerome Robbins in the ’40s threatened both their careers when Robbins was blackmailed into testifying before the House Un-American Activities Committee hearings regarding communists and other “subversives” in Washington and the entertainment community. I would be hesitant, though, to cast Clift as a “sad young man,” “self-loathing homosexual,” or fit him into any other category into which gay men were sorted from the 1950s to ’70s. Alcoholism affects everyone, and in the postwar period heavy drinking was routine across the board. By the time Clift’s drinking became full-blown alcoholism, it was impossible to disentangle from his devastating car accident, the prescription painkillers he needed at the time, and his professional fear regarding the damage done to his face. In the latter part of his career, his drinking and drug taking were so dominant in his life that he couldn’t function without them. Paradoxically, at the point when he worked with unsupportive or openly hostile homophobic producers and directors, the drugs and drinking sustained him as much as they destroyed him.
Q: You write about the fan magazines of the 1950s that frequently used sexually suggestive headlines such as “Who Is Monty Kidding?” How well known was the truth about Clift’s sexuality during that era?
A: Clift worked in a period when fan magazines were challenged by scandal magazines, each promising “the truth” about stars’ private lives. Ironically, even the scandal rags did not want any “truth” firmly established because that would rob them of the chance to repeatedly tantalize readers with the next promised exposé. Biographical information suggests that people who worked with Clift always “knew” in exact proportion to what they wanted to know. Fans likewise. Everyone minimized the complexity of Clift’s emotional relationships — with men, older women, young women — in order to maintain the image of the actor that appealed to them most.
Q: A recent article in Newsweek suggests audiences can’t accept gay actors as romantic leading men when we know the truth about their real-life sexuality and uses Rock Hudson as an example. How do you think this applies to Clift, who had such intense chemistry on-screen with Elizabeth Taylor and other actresses?
A: When audiences think they know something about an actor’s personal sexuality it becomes available as a touchstone to spectators watching a performance but is never mandatory. People judging a performance often appreciate it most the more it varies from what we think we know about the performer — casting against type, nice people playing psychos, beautiful actresses playing ugly. If we think of Clift as an actor, then his persuasiveness as a romantic lead opposite Taylor, Olivia de Havilland, or Jennifer Jones increases our appreciation of his skill as he seems to become inseparable from the role.
Another issue is history itself. As new generations are introduced to Clift and Hudson, they often react to the performers without knowing any biographical information about them. They are also less invested in “the truth” than those who experienced a change in their perception through revelations and the exposure of secrets. The freer sexuality of Brando or Dean, for instance, has not come to dominate their images.
Q: How do you think Clift would have fared personally and professionally if he began his career today, with the intrusion of the Internet and paparazzi?
A: The intrusion of the media today is offset by the openness of some gay performers — though not romantic leading men just yet. As Tom Cruise’s career shows, it is possible to withstand rumors and media speculation if you have the power and the will to do so. Because Clift was never as closeted as Rock Hudson, I don’t believe he would fight terribly hard to maintain the illusion of offscreen heterosexuality. He might be more likely to take a Keanu Reeves approach, where the actor neither courts nor tries to dispel the fantasies of any fan. In several roles in the severely repressive 1950s he even courted audiences to read his characters — and maybe himself — as gay in the casually flirtatious scenes in Red River, the rejection of heterosexual relationships in I Confess, Suddenly, Last Summer, and Freud, the material on gay Army life that acts as a subtext throughout From Here to Eternity, and the relationship with Frank Sinatra’s character in the film.
Source: Advocate, The Most Beautiful Man in Film
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6:22 PM, you meant to say that Maggie and Jake took Ramona to Busy's daughters BD, right?
Let's be clear, no one has any idea when and where Jake and Austin might be together. It's called being in the closet. There are private jets and a variety of ways of making people think you're here, when you're really there. I think there's a reason why Jake has been so mysterious (in hiding)this past summer. For the first time in several years (post-Reeke), he has no "cover" so suddenly there are no photos to pin him down as to where he actually is. In the past, that was never the case. Suddenly, he has no need of oh so public coffee runs and Myla lingerie shopping sprees. Austin, on the other hand has to be more in the open because he's filming a TV show. That's probably why he suddenly came up with this twitter gig in June before he took off for North Carolina. Social networking tools are used as diversionary tactics all the time.
Jake showing up at a 2 year olds party was a bit bizarre. Don't know many bachelors who do that. Ramona is nearly 4 years old. I doubt that she's Birdie's playmate. She lives in NY. But, maybe Jake needed a cover to get into the party without anyone asking uncomfortable questions. These guys can be clever and transparent at the same time.
no one has any idea when and where Jake and Austin might be together
Of course we do.
We know that Jake left LA and Austin to visit MV. We know that Jake spend time in LA with his family while Austin worked on the East Coast. We know that Jake went out during weekends in Montreal. We know that Jake went out with friends on Friday and Saturday after he returned from Montreal. And so on and on.
The closet argument is getting old, 6:28 PM but I'll humor you. What was the point of Jake leaving LA when he could've easily stayed and spend Austin's last weeks before starting filming OTH again with him? There was no need for that. They could have stayed in LA together with no pics or sightings and no one would've known anything. It's called staying in the closet, no? Or you're telling me Jake left for MV to throw a few posters from OMG and WFT2 off their scent? Give me a break.
But, maybe Jake needed a cover to get into the party without anyone asking uncomfortable questions.
Cover for what?
Jake has spent most of the summer and so far the fall on the East coast, same as Austin. Makes it a lot easier for them to spend time together. The spring and POP promo time is really the only chunk of time whenb Jake spent a lot oif time going out and being seen in places other tan Austin. Also when Austin was bearding most heavily.
You keep harping o that oe brief period, which just shows how little it takes to sell a certain story line.
IA with 6:33 PM. I don't know any bachelor who goes to two year olds birthday parties. Just the opposite. But, if Jake carried Ramona into the party then everyone would think that he was taking his little niece. Why wasn't Maggie carrying her little girl inside? That would make a lot more sense than her uncle taking her. I'm thinking Jake wanted to make sure the photoshoot had his toddler "beard" with him to give him plausible reason to be there. If you suspect he has a child, that may be the reason he did it that way. Maybe Birdie has a Gyllenichol playmate instead.
Jake has spent most of the summer and so far the fall on the East coast, same as Austin.
Where are all the photos of this supposed attachment to the East Coast? In the past, Jake was never camera shy.
You keep harping o that oe brief period, which just shows how little it takes to sell a certain story line.
Bullshit, we didn't forget last 4 years when Jake and Austin could NOT be together most of the time because they were working.
What's significant is that in 2010 Jake and Austin didn't care to be together when they could. They are history.
Jake has spent most of the summer and so far the fall on the East coast, same as Austin.
So? Jake was in MV and NYC - and you know that Austin doesn't film there.
I don't know any bachelor who goes to two year olds birthday parties.
Bachelors with 3 year old nieces. Or are you trying to suggest that Jake would take his secret kid to the place where you can find paparazzi? Yeah, that really make sense.
8?53/SK You are a fucking disgusting pig if you think Jake would use his niece like that or that Maggie would allow it
You obviously don't have kids ot friends and don't know the dimamic of their friendship.
There is no BT
Jake showing up at a 2 year olds party was a bit bizarre. Don't know many bachelors who do that.
You don't get out much, do you?
Plenty of couples in HW and elsewhere spend significant amounts of time apart.
And unless you were under Austin's bed, you have no idea whether he has spent all his weekends in NC.
And if Jake and Austin have not spent any time together in the last four years, why is he tweeting with known Jake friends and following his dad? Just for shits and giggles???
If you suspect he has a child, that may be the reason he did it that way.
What idiot would turn baby's birthday party into a cover up operation? Did Jake ask other parents to sign confidentiality agreements? How did he introduce BT to other parents? Is BT old enough to know never to call him Daddy?
Jake has no problem using family and friends.
Please stop attacking Special, she does not even read wft2, let alone post here.
I feel kind of sorry for J/A fans. They just can let go and can't deal with reality. 10 years from now they'll be here saying Jake and Austin are still together when there're obviously done.
Jake would not be the first parent who had his kid call him by his name.
Plenty of couples in HW and elsewhere spend significant amounts of time apart.
But they are together whenever they can be together. Not Jake and Austin
And unless you were under Austin's bed, you have no idea whether he has spent all his weekends in NC.
MAYBE few weekends in NC during Summer? Big deal.
And if Jake and Austin have not spent any time together in the last four years, why is he tweeting with known Jake friends and following his dad? Just for shits and giggles???
Austin is desperate for any kind of publicity, read his tweets. And tweeting has nothing to do with Jake and Austin being a couple.
Jake has no problem using family and friends.
That is not Jake's decisions to make. Busy wouldn't let Jake decide who will she invite to the party and Jake wouldn't ask her something like that.
Whether Jake and Austin are still together has nothing to do with whether there is a BT and whether Jake is lying about himsef.
Jake would not be the first parent who had his kid call him by his name.
Kids are smart. With a bit of training you can teach them not to speak in front of other people!
With a bit of training
Like monkeys?
Oh, it looks like someone hit on something with that Ramona comment. I never realized it before but that would be very clever. After all, we know Jake likes to use beards. Who cares what age they are.
Like monkeys?
Yes, but with less effort because human babies are smarter!
I feel kind of sorry for J/A fans. They just can let go and can't deal with reality.
You never know.
Like monkeys?
Yes, but with less effort because human babies are smarter!
You never know.
I do know because I see it.
Oh, it looks like someone hit on something with that Ramona comment. I never realized it before but that would be very clever.
Someone hit a pile of shit. Unless you are suggesting that BT was hidden in Ramona's rucksack. Do you?
I do know because I see it.
See what?
Oh, it looks like someone hit on something with that Ramona comment. I never realized it before but that would be very clever.
So how would that work? Why would it be OK for BT to attend a party with Busy's friends and family?
This has got to be the most conspricacy filled party since Oliver Stone turned 6.
Ramona, you put your foot down girl! Don't you take Unca Jakey's shit! Zahara Jolie-Pitt needs to give you a few lessons she doesn't take crap from anyone!
LOL :)
destiny said...
I think one reason for the low turnout may be the fact that there are so many marriage equality groups in New York, and there have been a lot of rallies over the last year or two. I also don't know how well this particular event was publicized. Throw in the fact that it was a Sunday morning, aplus the fact that most people are not going to turn out for a rally of any kind.
thanks, destiny. it makes sense that if there are a lot of rallies, there might not be huge turnouts at each one, lots of factors to consider.
This has got to be the most conspricacy filled party since Oliver Stone turned 6.
LMAO.
Even I couldn't come up with some of this shit. Damn!
Jake would not be the first parent who had his kid call him by his name.
I called my parents by their names as a kid. They didn't say, go to mommy or daddy, they used their names. IDK why. They probably thought it didn't matter. I have to ask them.
This has got to be the most conspricacy filled party since Oliver Stone turned 6.
LOL This is getting far out now. Why is it so important that there be a BT? It's a lovely thought, but I don't think it's true.
Busy and Jake are Matilda's godparents, so maybe she was there too, as well as Ramona. Every reason in the world for Jake to be there.
I know of kids who called their parents by their names too. It wasn't considered appropriate in my house.
There are private jets
That must be why Jake is taking subways around NY. He's putting the $$$ he saves into a private jet fund, lol.
The poor guy can't win for losin'. If he took a private jet, people would complain, if he takes the subway, people complain.
The poor guy can't win for losin'. If he took a private jet, people would complain, if he takes the subway, people complain.
For chrissakes, no one's "complaining." Just kidding around. God, some people take all of this way too seriously.
Has anyone seen this yet? I haven't seen it, but it has a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Can 'The Social Network' snag three Best Supporting Actor Nods?
Atticus, what's up, bud? Where you been hanging?
Plenty of couples in HW and elsewhere spend significant amounts of time apart.
And unless you were under Austin's bed, you have no idea whether he has spent all his weekends in NC.
^^ When Jake was Spending time with Reese, there was only bike pics of J/A. After that, only one pic of Jake, Austin and Sophia. Jake and Austin are not together. The argument you use of not being under Jake's bed and knowing who he's with all the time can also be used for those who constantly use the Reeke bearding analogy. How the hell do you really know what was going on with them in private when you were not under their bed. Only if Ted said nothings happening?
Jake and Austin have had plenty of times to be together, but Austin is with what's her name most of the time, and Jake is doing what he wants when he wants and without Austin. Time for raising a baby? So all of you who believe in BT should call the authoritys and report them as bad parents if you care about the little precious BT.
It's:
authorities, not authoritys
coasts, not costs
dynamic, not dimamic
they're, not there're
conspiracy, not conspricacy
I haven't seen The Social Network yet, but the trailer looked very good. RT gave Black Swan a 94 grade too. :)
Two really good friends of mine saw Social Network at the New York Film Festival (I sadly couldn't get a ticket), and they basically said it blew them out of the water. And they're not the kinds to say that.
The poor troll cant visit Babbleland or DC forum because they booted him off a long time ago and they shut him down immediately if he shows up. This site and OMG are more lenient allowing varied opinions.
How many more times does Ted need to say that Baby Tile is real and is indeed human. He has said it over and over. Ive lost count but people still say it cant be so. You would be better served arguing that Jake is not Toothy than to try to claim baby tile does not exist. Id like to see the troll come up with one reasonable guess as to who else Toothy could be. Not a single person fits all the clues except for Jake. Virtually every actor of Toothys age has been cleared as not Toothy in and its not leaving only Jake. And if Jake is Toothy then Baby Tile is his.
Has anyone seen this yet? I haven't seen it, but it has a 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Critic Reviews: 27
Fresh: 27
Cool, but the subject matter is totally interesting to me.
^^^ uninteresting :)
One thing Adam did accomplish is to reenergize the Jake is gay debate. Every time the question starts to fall off the radar somebody comes along to give it new life.
Would be great if Jake was involved in such a great project - we could talk about his work for a change...:-)
"One thing Adam did accomplish is to reenergize the Jake is gay debate. Every time the question starts to fall off the radar somebody comes along to give it new life."
This needs to be repeated - I really don´t understand it - the only places where Jakes sexuality is discussed permanently is here and at OMG....If I were Jake I would kick Adams ass....
One thing Adam did accomplish is to reenergize the Jake is gay debate.
... and as we can see from the comments posted here, 'Jake can't be gay' fans aren't happy! lol
the only places where Jakes sexuality is discussed permanently is here and at OMG
Nonsense. All Jake fan sites and blogs discuss Jake's sexuality all the time - the only difference is that they "believe" Jake is straight and looking for the right woman.
Cool, but the subject matter is totally uninteresting to me.
There is one interesting thing about Chris Hughes, Facebook (aka more popular MySpace application) co-founder - he's gay.
After Elton
Id like to see the troll come up with one reasonable guess as to who else Toothy could be.
Trolls never care about reasoning or facts.
For example, there is DL troll who claims that Luke Macfarlane is straight and that he never came out - he/she uses that obvious lie as an "argument" for 'Went is straight' trolling. Unfuckingbelievable.
destiny said...
Two really good friends of mine saw Social Network at the New York Film Festival (I sadly couldn't get a ticket), and they basically said it blew them out of the water. And they're not the kinds to say that.
Thanks, destiny. I don't even have a FB, but the reviews have been so outstanding for every aspect of this movie that it's caught my interest. Sounds like Fincher and Sorkin are good bets for Oscar noms.
Busy and Jake are Matilda's godparents, so maybe she was there too, as well as Ramona. Every reason in the world for Jake to be there.
Matilda didn't attend the party, she was with her mom in Canada at the time.
And now she's with her mom in London. Not fair, I want Jake and Matilda pictures :)
P.S. Jake, Matilda and Ramona pictures would be fine, too :)
P.S. OK, OK, Jake, Matilda, Ramona and BT pictures would be the best :)
Doubt that'll happen anytime soon. They don't seem to see each other often and when they do, they are very, very private about it...for some reason.
I want to know why Stephen is following Twitter accounts dedicated to Heath. Did he know him?
tbh, I don't want to see any kid pics - kids should be off limits, imo, for paps. I can't actually believe in BT, but if I did, I wouldn't want to try and hunt the kid down looking for pictures.
Did he know him?
Yes, I think that much is certain.
kids should be off limits, imo, for paps
Are you crazy???
Dear Ted:
Two questions for ya today, Ted! I recently saw that Adam Levine commented on hoe (sorry I meant how) our beloved Jakey G and his gay rumors are false blah blah blah. What's your opinion? And I know I've asked you this a lot but is Jonathan Rhys Meyers Toothy Tile or Grey Goose? Hope to hear from you soon!
–Samm
Dear Levine-Curious:
There's no doubt Levine and Jakey are BFFs, but how does the hunky Maroon 5-er thinks he's helping Jake's case by screaming about his pal's sex life, regardless the reason? I really have no friggin' clue here. This was clearly a bro brain fart. And Jonathan is neither Toothy nor Grey. Not sexy enough!
Dear Ted:
I watched you on a U.K. program once. I was expecting you to be bitchy and judgmental, but actually you were rather kind. Kindness goes a long way with me. But it makes me wonder if your personal perception of a celeb colours your decision on what to post about them. Would you cut someone a bit of slack if you had a soft spot for them, or maybe not post about them at all? Conversely, if you had some juice on someone you regard as a bit of a tosser, would you go for it with a bit more gusto than usual? Thanks!
–Windsor
Dear Overseas Observer:
I love fishin' for compliments over the Atlantic, but not so much with the celebs. I'm not an H-Wood BFF, just spreading the juice with equal mucho gusto. And thanks!
Bitch Back
when they do, they are very, very private about it...for some reason
Huh? That's normal, why would Jake and Michelle want to meet in public?
publicity whores said...
kids should be off limits, imo, for paps
Are you crazy???
LOL. I know, but it's not the poor kids' fault if some of them have publicity whore parents!
How many more times does Ted need to say that Baby Tile is real and is indeed human. He has said it over and over.
apparently you are not aware that some fans of Jake don't eat up every word that Ted spews out of his mouth. You can follow his words like mindless sheep, but don't attack others because of your lack of reasoning. Sweetheart you will be waiting for some time for a babytile. trust me.
Trolls never care about reasoning or facts.
I dare you to list one fact that proves J/A are together and with a child. ONE
There are NONE. So you're left with only your fantasy.
Wake up, Snap out of it. Before it's too late. I bet you planned a J/A wedding and bought a basinet with baby booties and all.
Get a life of your own.
Ted's BI has been going on now since 2005. You'll be here 5 more years analyzing pictures looking for this elusive BT.
There has to be more to ones life. Really Sad!
Poor trolly, nobody wants him. Maybe he should start his own site.
Why is it worse believing that Baby exists than that Toothy exists? At least Baby believers are no hypocrites who choose to believe just what they want to believe.
^^^ 10:07 AM, please stop hurting trolly's feelings! :)
Why is it worse believing that Baby exists than that Toothy exists?
Because gay is OK and being a lousy father is not OK at all.
Because gay is OK and being a lousy father is not OK at all.
That's irrelevant.
The feeling of superiority of TBers towared BT believers is not justified. At least BTers believe it all and are not hypocritically picky and choose to believe this, but ignore that.
Because gay is OK and being a lousy father is not OK at all.
you're wasting your time, some fanatics will never be able to understand there's something wrong with this. They're so emotionally invested in Ted's words that two men who are supposed to be raising a baby hidden from the world, while never being pictured together, being pictured with, fawning over, holding, carry everybody elses kids but their supposed own is such a good thing. These people are disturbed and needy. They need Jake and Austin to be together with a baby. That makes their heart go skippity skip.
If they were not so needy, they would not pressure Ted every freaking day of the week confiming their fantasy. Ted is shaking his head and laughing his ass off. He's not letting this one go.
Ted, your're a bad man. LOL
At least BTers believe it all
You think that's something to brag about? And you're using the word "hypocritical" incorrectly. There's nothing hypocritical about using logic, common sense and critical thinking to form an opinion. If you want to have an "all or nothing" attitude, fine, but stop insisting that everyone should and that if they don't they're a hypocrite. It's not a contradiction to believe that Jake is gay, but not believe he has a hidden child.
"Waiting for Toothy" is the blog's name. For people who believe Toothy exists and are convinced it's Jake G.. Some believe all Toothy stores including BT. Thinking that you are somehow intellectually superior for believing bits and pieces in comparison to those who believe it all is ridiculous.
JiB (Jake is bi) JiG and BT believers should be treated equally on here. No one knows more or less than the other.
At least BTers believe it all and are not hypocritically picky and choose to believe this, but ignore that.
Believe it all = believe Ted 100%? Sorry but I would never believe Jake is gay without witnessing Reeke PR charade. I need something, anything to confirm that BT exists beside Ted's word.
I hope you are saying those who think Jake is Toothy and may be gay, or bi and *without* a Baby Tile should be treated equally also, and not called names or trolly because they have a different opinion.
I hope you are saying those who think Jake is Toothy and may be gay, or bi and *without* a Baby Tile should be treated equally also, and not called names or trolly because they have a different opinion.
Absolutely.
Tell that to OMG posters.
Jake Gyllenhaal Debutes New Beard
It's not your opinion that gets you labeled a troll. It's calling other people names, berating them for their opinions that you insist are irrational, getting nasty, using people's beliefs, age, etc. as the basis for slurs, trying to convince everyone Jake is straight on a JIG blog and generally behaving like a missionary out to convert all the JIG believers.
Jake looks like a bohemian artist. Swoon.
Jake Gyllenhaal Debutes New Beard
Calm down, Adam Levine, our headline is obviously not a sexual innuendo. Although, you will probably think it is, you overly hetero hothead!
Jake Gyllenhaal was in New York over the weekend and took his new scruff out on a date to Le Fooding, a culinary festival in the city.
Despite J.G.'s chin warmer (we like you clean, baby!), we're told Gyllenhaal was hardly hurting for female company as he cruised the festival solo.
"Jake chatted with a group of young women who were all looking enamored with the handsome actor," a witness at Le Fooding tells us. Gals galore, in fact, flirted all over our adorable Jakey. Only two questions come to mind: (1) Who can blame them? (2) Did Adam send an extra batch over?
While attempting to still enjoy flutes of Veuve Clicquot, Jake tried to blend in with the too-hip crowd and avoid photographers who followed him there hoping to get a shot.
With Gyllenhaal's new movie, Love and Other Drugs (which we hear is pretty fab), we got used to the ladies' man looking all business-man clean, not hipster wannabe. I mean, this look is so Jon Hamm meets James Franco meets Brad Pitt meets so three hunks ago.
Maybe, it's for a role, but are we alone here in thinking Jake shouldn't be hiding behind that whisker warehouse? Yuck, and such a waste!
Jake Gyllenhaal was in New York over the weekend and took his new scruff out on a date to Le Fooding, a culinary festival in the city.
= no Austin in NYC over the weekend.
It's not your opinion that gets you labeled a troll.
That's bullshit and you know it. It is enough to don't believe in BT and J&A to be labeled as troll on OMG. I was in that position more than once.
It's not your opinion that gets you labeled a troll. It's calling other people names, berating them for their opinions that you insist are irrational, getting nasty, using people's beliefs, age, etc. as the basis for slurs, trying to convince everyone Jake is straight on a JIG blog and generally behaving like a missionary out to convert all the JIG believers
that same argument can be used for you and those who call names to people who don't share the OMG or 100% Ted believers opinion.
Sorry to Tell you that there are JIG and 100% Ted believers who are trolls and demonstrate trollish behavior. In your opinion only those who don't see things as you see things are trolls.
You are so wrong.
berating them for their opinions that you insist are irrational
Believing that there are two BTs is a rational opinion?
(2) Did Adam send an extra batch over?
LOL. Adam should've kept his mouth shut. Why bring more attention to something that you don't want people talking about? Anyway, it looks like Ted thinks Adam has thrown down the gauntlet or something.
Adam should've kept his mouth shut.
Adam is promoting his new album. publicity is good.
Adam is promoting his new album. publicity is good.
Publicity is good for Adam :)
Wanna know how hard its raining?
about 24 hours ago
So hard the dogs are cowering in the corner. So hard we can't record clean sound for the TV show.
about 24 hours ago
So hard that our parking lot is a lake. So hard the poop is floating around.
about 24 hours ago
Caught in the Act!
A bearded Jake Gyllenhaal blended into the hipster-heavy crowd at Le Fooding, a culinary festival at PS1 in Queens, N.Y. The plaid-clad actor sipped some Veuve Clicquot champagne and also chatted with a group of women, who all looked enamored of the actor. Gyllenhaal also sampled dishes from star chefs like David Chang and Robert Newton. Also there: Amber Tamblyn, who hung out by the deejay booth.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20429517,00.html
trying to convince everyone Jake is straight on a JIG blog
First, it's a blog for Toothy Believers.
Second, I doubt any regual user thinks Jake is straight. But some (very few it seems) believe he's bi. Which is not a popular opinion on here.
First, it's a blog for Toothy Believers.
And since Toothy is gay this is TiG / JiG blog.
Which is not a popular opinion on here.
How could "Reeke was real" opinion be popular here???
Believe it all = believe Ted 100%? Sorry but I would never believe Jake is gay without witnessing Reeke PR charade. I need something, anything to confirm that BT exists beside Ted's word.
Everyone believes Jaustin were a couple or still are a couple. We don't have an evidence for it. No kissing or sex pics/vids.
But it is absurd believing in BT? I see.
But it is absurd believing in BT? I see.
You obviously don't.
Everyone dates. Gay celebrities hide in the closet.
Sane people don't hide their kids in the closet.
Do you get the difference?
With Gyllenhaal's new movie, Love and Other Drugs (which we hear is pretty fab)
Ted was right about PoP being not so good. We'll see if he's right about LAOD.
2:45PM, even when Ricky Martin was still in the closet, he didn't pretend that his children didn't exist. When Clay Aiken's son was born, he came out. He didn't have the kid in secret and then pretend that there was no child. Can't you see how ludicrous it would be for someone to do that? It's not the same as simply keeping your child away from the press. What do you think the end-game is for BT? Do you think he/she will go through their entire life not being able to tell anyone who their father is? Or do you think this kid doesn't know who their father is? That it's being raised somewhere by nuns or something and Jake goes to visit every once in a while? You're trying to compare hiding a real live human being to hiding a relationship. It's not the same.
Sane people don't hide their kids in the closet.
Do you get the difference?
Yes, I get it. Your reason for not believing in BT is that you believe hiding kids is bad, and therefore if BT exists that makes Jake bad, ergo BT can't possibly exist.
That's not any more rational than the reasons BT believers give for their beliefs.
I don't think Jake is some god or perfect human being who is incapable of doing something wrong.
Most of Jake's life is completely out of our sight. At best we see/hear about a few hours out of the 168 hours in a week. This summer we've heard and seen even less. If you can hide a relationship you can certainly hide a child. The only difference is that when it comes to the relationship, both parties have agreed to it. A child would have no say or control over the situation.
That's not any more rational than the reasons BT believers give for their beliefs.
What reasons are that?
If you can hide a relationship you can certainly hide a child.
He could, but WHY would Jake do that to the only person he loves unconditionally?
I don't think Jake is some god or perfect human being who is incapable of doing something wrong.
No one except babblers believe he is a god and a perfect human being. I certainly don't believe that. But I also don't think he's totally effing nuts. Sandra Bullock said it was like a CIA operation and she only hid her kid for a couple months. You'd lose your mind if you tried to keep that up long-term. You never answered the question about what the end-game is for BT - how long will this subterfuge continue do you think? 5 more years? 10 more years? 20?
I wouldn't given ANY of Ted's reviews or buzz credibility. He'll deny this of course BUT he DEFINITELY HATED Brokeback Mountain and made fun of Jake's acting in it.
Why would Ted hate Brokeback Mountain? He hates gays?
He could, but WHY would Jake do that to the only person he loves unconditionally?
Maybe because if he brought the kid out, that means he has to come out. And the co-parent has to come out. Is Jake ready to come out? Doesn't look like that's in the immediate plans.
So he could wait to start a family when he's 48-50 years old when he's got all his movies under his belt and his career is ebbing and he's ready to come out of the closet. That would make him nearly 70 when BT graduates from H.S.
How does an actor who's trying to be a motion picture leading man come out of the closet in 2010 in front of millions, introduce his male lover and little baby, and then get a role over Sean Penn for a big-script flick; not only that, but get the Academy to vote him for Best Actor.
They wouldn't even give Brokeback an Oscar for best picture. They gave it to Crash. Who really thinks Crash deserved that best picture over Brokeback Mountain?
If the Academy chickened out on that shit, whatever on earth makes anyone think the greyhairs would suddenly vote a man who has a partner and baby the winning Oscar for Best Actor?
"If you can hide a relationship you can certainly hide a child"
Obviously, you don't have a child..... or a relationship.
Maybe because if he brought the kid out, that means he has to come out.
We know that, Jake knows that. That is one of the reasons why I believe there is no BT - being in the closet and babies without "girlfriend" can't go together.
So he could wait to start a family when he's 48-50 years old when he's got all his movies under his belt and his career is ebbing and he's ready to come out of the closet.
What would be wrong with that? It's not like he's having a family now.
People in HW hide relationships all the time. The only reason it was so hard for SB to hide the baby is the media frenzy over Oscar nom and cheating husband.
Nobody cares enough about Jake to stake out his house and go through the garbage. Plus people bought the living with Reese nonsense.
One more time - hiding a kid is easy. Raising a happy kid like that is impossible.
Anyone see the new pic of Jake on IHJ of him at a food fest in NY? Lordy that beard. The girl looks familiar, I wonder if that's "Fanny" some tweeter was talking about. Is she one of the girls from the Russian hooker vid?
Never saw that girl before.
Wanna know how hard its raining?
Stay in SC Austin. It's HOT in LA. Yesterday every city in So Cal was at minimum 105F. It was 115F inland and 110F coastal at about 1:00 pm. It got cooler at 5 pm, only 107F! My ac went out (grrr) and I had to sleep naked with 2 fans on me and clutching 3 ice packs.
Enjoy! I hate fall and winter.
If you can hide a relationship you can certainly hide a child. The only difference is that when it comes to the relationship, both parties have agreed to it. A child would have no say or control over the situation.
^^ why go thru all the trouble of getting / having a child then hide it? Then the two daddys are nowhere in sight together. Different coast all the time. Jake in NYC now, Austin Tweeting on the set. Where is BT? They have both been playing with and holding everyone's baby but their own???
Why even go through this DUMB charades? Hide your partner, hide your sexuality, hide your baby which took so much time and money to get, it Make NO Sense. It's Stupid. How do you know what J/A agreed to? Were you there? Sad but true, if this is what happened the child would be a lost soul because of the immature, and selfish actions of any parent who would do what you claim J/A of doing. I don't believe it and it's not cute and adorable as some believers think it is.
Anne Hathaway’s Final Farewell to Swindler’s Jewels
I don't believe it and it's not cute and adorable as some believers think it is.
^^ No one is saying the situation is cute and adorable. Stop making things up. Just cause no one thinks that dooesn't mean they have to hate babies. You better gear up and face it, if Jake isn't a father now, he will be, whenever he wants, with whomever he wants.
That is, unless you think he'll stay in the closet forever and give up on ever having a family. Or why not come out right now and begin the single fatherhood adoption process, all out in the open. It would be lovely, I agree with that.
No one is saying the situation is cute and adorable.
Ted is saying that.
You better gear up and face it, if Jake isn't a father now, he will be, whenever he wants, with whomever he wants.
What? Really? Jake won't ask my permission first?
That is, unless you think he'll stay in the closet forever and give up on ever having a family.
What do YOU think? You actually believe that Jake could be crazy enough to hide a kid for 10-15 years?
Maybe because if he brought the kid out, that means he has to come out. And the co-parent has to come out. Is Jake ready to come out? Doesn't look like that's in the immediate plans.
What??????
Then, DON'T bring a damn surrogate baby into the world if you are not ready for it. It's a human life, not a doll or a dog you can leave at the doggie shelter for weeks. It is a sacrifice and if you are not ready for it and won't put the childs life first. Don't even think about it. WAIT til you are ready. I don't believe Jake or Austin would do anything so selfish anb self centered.
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Very sad. :(
omg, devastating is right :(
4:56, Ted HATED Brokeback Mountain. He may deny it now but he HATED the movie. He didn't like the ending; he didn't like Jake's performance (thought it was a joke--including his accent, age makeup and he thought it was laughable that Jack should want to shack up with Ennis following one shtup). If Ted denies this, he's a liar. Try to look this up on the archives (if it hasn't been deleted). Ted HATED Brokeback Mountain.
This sounds like a film Ted will pretend to like--from imdb:
"Saw it tonight in Atlanta - interviewing Zwick tomorrow.
Hated it - too long - too uneven - everything way over the top.
Mixing lame dick jokes with a Parkinson's Disease sub-plot??!!
The ONLY good thing was seeing Anne Hathaway frequently naked."
Hmmmm ... I didn't know Ted felt like that about Brokeback. I had read in one of his posts that he didn't like the ending, but I thought he said he liked Jake's performance. It was a masterpiece, no matter what he says.
He didn't like Jake's performance--he made FUN of it. He didn't make fun of Heath's performance but Jake YESSIREE! I'm sure he'd like to forget that but I certainly didn't.
What do you expect from someone who orgasms to Twilight constantly?
Glee forum's shipper name for Kurt/Sam/Finn/Puck: Kumfuck
"What??????
Then, DON'T bring a damn surrogate baby into the world if you are not ready for it. It's a human life, not a doll or a dog you can leave at the doggie shelter for weeks. It is a sacrifice and if you are not ready for it and won't put the childs life first. Don't even think about it. WAIT til you are ready."
#1 - Please stop the high drama. You act as if Jake being a 29 1/2 yr old gay closeted father makes him the equivalent of a first-time crime offender worthy of lethal injection.
#2 - Don't tell us. Don't tell me. You're telling the wrong people. You need to tell Jake. Not everyone sees it as clearly and 20/20 as you do. If everyone saw children and parenting the way you and a lot of us people see it, there would be no further need for Planned Parenthood, abortions, unmarried mothers getting their GED's at age 30 and so on. There would also be less teenage runaways, divorces, domestic disturbances, abandoned and abused infants/children, mid-life crisis and parents running off, abandoning their families to go take up with a 25 year old.
It's called life.
141:49 you speak as if Jake and Austin do have a babytile. This I don't believe as stated in my post. No high drama. But I don't agree with the excuses.
You act as if Jake being a 29 1/2 yr old gay closeted father makes him the equivalent of a first-time crime offender worthy of lethal injection.
^ This is the problem. I don't see him as a closeted father, you do. I don't see him as father of a child at all. Believe what you want.
^^ also there is no need for me to tell Jake anything. I think he's doing fine living his life as he sees fit.
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"Saw Love and Other Drugs tonight - starring Anne Hathaway and Jake Gyllenhaal (swoon). Def. a must see - comes out in Nov."
So for everyone who dislikes the film there are two or three who like it.
I hope it will be successful and a solid Box Office hit for Jake.
It's called life.
No, it is called Hollywood life where closeted gay actors who want to be movie stars and are willing to beard don't get a baby by mistake via surrogate mother. The last thing they want is another proof of their gayness and more risk to be outed.
I see PrairieGirl is back here posting anonymously. *Waves to PG*
PrairieGirl? Where? :)
Sounds more like "Methodical Muser" than PG, but definitely an OMGer :) I love the part about "You need to tell Jake." LOL.
You act as if Jake being a 29 1/2 yr old gay closeted father makes him the equivalent of a first-time crime offender worthy of lethal injection.
BT is the case for Child Protective Services. I'm sure you agree.
PrairieGirl? Where?
In the little house. ;)
BT is the case for Child Protective Services.
7:32, you better get right on it and call them to report Jake.
In the little house. ;)
LOL! Bad, bad TB! :)
7:32, you better get right on it and call them to report Jake.
You don't see anything wrong with hiding a kid in the closet?
You don't see anything wrong with hiding a kid in the closet?
A family has to stick together you know
You don't see anything wrong with hiding a kid in the closet?
LOL, BT is not literally being hidden in a closet.
Back in 2005 the author Terry McMillan went on Oprah to confront Jonathan Plummer — whom she married in 1998 when he was in his early 20s and she in her 40s — after ending their 6.5-year marriage when Jonathan came out as gay. Terry had turned their Jamaican courtship into the book (and later, film) How Stella Got Her Groove Back; the fictional story, however, didn't end like the real life one. If you watched that original Oprah episode, it was plainly obvious how furious Terry was at her husband's lies. And even years later, the anger still boiled with Terry publicly trashing her ex. So when the twosome resurfaced on Oprah's couch Monday, I didn't know what to expect. Let's just say they are now taking baths together.
From a relationship that started and ended with fireworks (and a lawsuit: Terry sued Jonathan in 2007 for $40 million, claiming intentional infliction of emotional distress, before dropping the claim), this is certainly an interesting place to be. But to watch these two former lovers and pseudo friends interact, it's pure theater, in a humanistic way.
She seems a smidge less bitter, huh?
Let's get to it!
Did Jonathan know he was gay going into the marriage? Or at any point in their six-year union? Initially he says no, claiming his culture forbid it, but then goes on to say he never acted on it. It was only in the last two years of the marriage did "conflicting feelings" arise. So, did he cheat on Terry with dudes? Not in any way that put her in danger, he says. (Hint: He used a condom when cheating.)
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You don't see anything wrong with hiding a kid in the closet?
Walk-in closet?
Water closet?
Broom closet?
Linen closet?
Water-heater closet?
A family has to stick together you know
LOL, BT is not literally being hidden in a closet.
Got to love how BT believers avoid answering simple questions.
Broom closet - I'm not raising a sissy who's scared of the dark or confined spaces!
Got to love how BT believers avoid answering simple questions.
We're too busy drinking Ted's kool-aid
We're too busy drinking Ted's kool-aid
Only BT believers drinking Ted's kool-aid? Ain't the case.
8:12 #2, you don't recognize humor do you. Stop trying to turn people's little innocent, funny comeback one-liners into a "BT exists/doesn't exist" judgment campaign.
Yes, it is.
We all believe in Ted's Toothy, don't we?
8:12 #2, you don't recognize humor do you.
Good excuse.
We all believe in Ted's Toothy, don't we?
Yes, but not because Ted said so.
8:12 #2 & 8:19 need stick-out-of-butt surgery, stat!
Ted quite rightly calls Adam Levine out for such a blatant PR ramp.
Adam Levine is a sissy and a silly man. Can somebody please tweet Adam and inform him people now think Jake is gayer than ever. Doh!
P.S. Yes, we all believe Jake is gay, but not because Ted said so.
You would have to contact the Imaginary Child Protective Services. They are the ones who deal with Imaginary Children. *Explanation for 8:12#2: this is a joke.*
Explanation for 8:36 AM: BT believers are great at playing stupid.
Dear Ted:
I met Kirsten Dunst today. She seemed very sweet, unassuming, and overall, was someone I think I'd like to know! Of course, I only got a few minutes with her. I've heard plenty of rumors, but I don't know what to believe! What's your take? Sweet gal just trying to live her life, trainwreck, or should we be expecting a comeback?
—SQ
Dear Vintaged Vice:
The fact that Ki-Ki is strutting her stuff on carpets and not at clubs makes me think this babe could have a big comeback. Sure, she's had her dark Hollywood moments, but hell, who hasn't? Let's hope Jake Gyllenhaal's ex-GF stays on her current path.
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^^I hope so! :)
Dunst had a franchise, I hope more talented and interesting actresses will get their big chance.
It all depends on the roles and who is right for them. She has a very sweet persona that I'd like to see in films again. I loved her as MJ Watson.
She has a very sweet persona
You know her?
"I don't ever want to date another actor again. This quote is probably going to come back in my face, but I know someone who has a great saying: 'There are no actors, there are only actresses.' "Sometimes creative people can be very dark and destructive. "I'm only saying bad things. I do know a few actors who are good and sweet and adorable."
And?
Sounds more like dumb Kirsten Dunst. lol
People, and actors, are a mixture of traits. Right along with sweet, there's dark. No surprise.
There is nothing sweet about Kirsten 'I Was Depressed I Don't Do Drugs' Dunst, she's too bland.
People, and actors, are a mixture of traits.
Tell that to Kirsten! :)
So, did he cheat on Terry with dudes? Not in any way that put her in danger, he says. (Hint: He used a condom when cheating.)
Well, at least he's not stupid.
Dr. Devra Davis of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, today on radio discussed the recent and long-suppressed research on the dangers of cell phone radiation.
In "Disconnect: The Truth About Cell Phone Radiation, What the Industry Has Done to Hide It, and How to Protect Your Family," Davis told of how every phone has a warning in the smallest print (which we throw away with the package) that no phone should be held against your body.
With most, one inch from our skin. The only safe way to use a cell is through an ear piece or speakerphone. Guys keep phones out of your pants pockets, they lower sperm count.
She also warned against sleeping near cordless phones in their base because of continuous overnight radiation. They're mini microwave towers in the bedroom.
Jake Gyllenhaal was in New York over the weekend and took his new scruff out on a date to Le Fooding, a culinary festival in the city.
BT believers, was Austin there too?
PHALifestyle: Just seen Jake Gyllenhaal whilst at a client press day! He's looking good!
Loc: London
(I suppose it's a case of mistaken identity. The person also doesn't mention the beard)
My favorite shot of Kirsten is her sitting on the grass of a London park summer of 2007 with her bff Saskia and Heath (who was in London shooting TDK). Heath was wearing a cowboy hat and he looked very hot (this was right before he started to physically deteriorate). I really liked the feeling and vibe from that photo--three pals hanging out one sleepy summner afternoon.
Maggie's new movie - shooting is scheduled to begin in October in London and Luxembourg.
Maggie's new movie - shooting is scheduled to begin in October in London and Luxembourg.
Maybe she's already in London? So, it could be him. Who knows?
tffnyxx: I was at a screening of Love and Other Drugs! :)
Totally sat behind Maggie Gyllenhaal. No big deal.
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I plead for mistaken identity. Either a Jake look alike or made up.
Guys, sorry for complaining, but please copy/paste tweet time too. Thanks.
^^ay ay sir!
Good girl! :)
Someone at my office was looking through their mail and said, "Why is Jerry Bruckheimer on the cover of the Costco magazine?" My guess is to push sales of DVDs and Blu-rays :) Online edition - picture with Jake inside:
Crowd Pleaser, Jerry Bruckheimer Knows Entertainment
So for everyone who dislikes the film there are two or three who like it.
I hope it will be successful and a solid Box Office hit for Jake.
Reactions seem mixed so far. I hope for good B.O. too.
Maggie's not in London yet, neither is Michelle (with Matilda) right now. Shooting for "My Week With Marylin" starts Oct 4th. Michelle's sister is getting married in San Diego in a few days, Michelle is most likely already there to support her little sis.
The person could have seen Jake on TV.
Or maybe Jake went a little sightseeing by himself? Or he took someone with him? Is Austin still filming?
Yes, till December if they are doing just 1/2 of the season.
Or maybe Jake went a little sightseeing by himself?
With or without Austin being in NYC for a weekend?
Yes, till December if they are doing just 1/2 of the season.
Thanks.
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