Sunday, 12 September 2010

A Place in the Sun

Montgomery Clift
Montgomery Clift rolling cigarette
during shooting of 'Red River', circa 1948

The Advocate: There are so many biographies of Montgomery Clift and numerous websites devoted to him. What was the biggest surprise you learned about him while researching your book?
Amy Lawrence: I was most impressed by Clift’s canny understanding of his own image. Many biographers depict him as refusing to participate in the Hollywood star system, but that didn’t mean he was ignorant of it. He understood how an actor’s image was built and maintained. In giving interviews or choosing roles, he knew exactly how to shape a performance to achieve the effect he wanted — and to resist the efforts of others to simplify a character. For instance, he was aware that screenwriters and directors often wanted to make the hero perfect; Clift wanted to make the character human, complicated, and not always admirable.

Q: Clift is often spoken of in context as a “gay actor” or in conjunction with Marlon Brando and James Dean. What do you see as Clift’s singular legacy?
A: Brando and Dean both thought of Clift as singular. Brando saw Clift as his only major competition, and Dean saw him as a model, an ideal to emulate. Unlike those performers, Clift’s best work has not become dated. In Red River, From Here to Eternity, A Place in the Sun, I Confess, and half a dozen others, his performances are impeccable. At his best he is never mannered or predictable. His performances are subtle, intelligent, graceful, and deeply empathetic regardless of the character’s flaws.

Q: How did Clift’s being gay — or bisexual, as some suggest — when it was still taboo affect his drinking, drug taking, and ultimate downward spiral?
A: The homophobia of the time, which intensified nationally just as Clift’s career was beginning in the late 1940s and early ’50s, certainly exerted pressure on Clift. A serious relationship with choreographer Jerome Robbins in the ’40s threatened both their careers when Robbins was blackmailed into testifying before the House Un-American Activities Committee hearings regarding communists and other “subversives” in Washington and the entertainment community. I would be hesitant, though, to cast Clift as a “sad young man,” “self-loathing homosexual,” or fit him into any other category into which gay men were sorted from the 1950s to ’70s. Alcoholism affects everyone, and in the postwar period heavy drinking was routine across the board. By the time Clift’s drinking became full-blown alcoholism, it was impossible to disentangle from his devastating car accident, the prescription painkillers he needed at the time, and his professional fear regarding the damage done to his face. In the latter part of his career, his drinking and drug taking were so dominant in his life that he couldn’t function without them. Paradoxically, at the point when he worked with unsupportive or openly hostile homophobic producers and directors, the drugs and drinking sustained him as much as they destroyed him.

Q: You write about the fan magazines of the 1950s that frequently used sexually suggestive headlines such as “Who Is Monty Kidding?” How well known was the truth about Clift’s sexuality during that era?
A: Clift worked in a period when fan magazines were challenged by scandal magazines, each promising “the truth” about stars’ private lives. Ironically, even the scandal rags did not want any “truth” firmly established because that would rob them of the chance to repeatedly tantalize readers with the next promised exposé. Biographical information suggests that people who worked with Clift always “knew” in exact proportion to what they wanted to know. Fans likewise. Everyone minimized the complexity of Clift’s emotional relationships — with men, older women, young women — in order to maintain the image of the actor that appealed to them most.

Q: A recent article in Newsweek suggests audiences can’t accept gay actors as romantic leading men when we know the truth about their real-life sexuality and uses Rock Hudson as an example. How do you think this applies to Clift, who had such intense chemistry on-screen with Elizabeth Taylor and other actresses?
A: When audiences think they know something about an actor’s personal sexuality it becomes available as a touchstone to spectators watching a performance but is never mandatory. People judging a performance often appreciate it most the more it varies from what we think we know about the performer — casting against type, nice people playing psychos, beautiful actresses playing ugly. If we think of Clift as an actor, then his persuasiveness as a romantic lead opposite Taylor, Olivia de Havilland, or Jennifer Jones increases our appreciation of his skill as he seems to become inseparable from the role.

Another issue is history itself. As new generations are introduced to Clift and Hudson, they often react to the performers without knowing any biographical information about them. They are also less invested in “the truth” than those who experienced a change in their perception through revelations and the exposure of secrets. The freer sexuality of Brando or Dean, for instance, has not come to dominate their images.

Q: How do you think Clift would have fared personally and professionally if he began his career today, with the intrusion of the Internet and paparazzi?
A: The intrusion of the media today is offset by the openness of some gay performers — though not romantic leading men just yet. As Tom Cruise’s career shows, it is possible to withstand rumors and media speculation if you have the power and the will to do so. Because Clift was never as closeted as Rock Hudson, I don’t believe he would fight terribly hard to maintain the illusion of offscreen heterosexuality. He might be more likely to take a Keanu Reeves approach, where the actor neither courts nor tries to dispel the fantasies of any fan. In several roles in the severely repressive 1950s he even courted audiences to read his characters — and maybe himself — as gay in the casually flirtatious scenes in Red River, the rejection of heterosexual relationships in I Confess, Suddenly, Last Summer, and Freud, the material on gay Army life that acts as a subtext throughout From Here to Eternity, and the relationship with Frank Sinatra’s character in the film.

Source: Advocate, The Most Beautiful Man in Film

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Anonymous said...

I'm sort of sick of all this and want to enjoy a movie or performance of his again. I became a fan of his acting first and foremost.

No one's forcing you to follow this blog or Ted or any other gossip, and there is nothing stopping you from enjoying a movie or his performance.

Anonymous said...

Someone on OMG said that Paris BT paparazzi photos don't exist?
^^^ They don't


I see, BT believers took "BT in Paris proof" from the list.

Anonymous said...

Ted is STILL selling BT. How credible is his Toothy tale now?
When you believe in Toothy, you have to believe in Baby as well or admit that all is BS. But no one on here will admit that.

Anonymous said...

There is nothing to admit. Jake is Toothy Tile and there is not BT until we see real proof.

Anonymous said...

When you believe in Toothy, you have to believe in Baby as well

No. Jake is not gay because of Toothy (or because of Brokeback) but JiS crowd want to keep pushing those talking points.

Anonymous said...

But Ted is still selling that BT exists. Why not backtrack, admit a mistake? It's an "either or" situation. You believe it all, not just what you choose to believe, or nothing.

Like, "yes I believe he is gay, but I don't believe he banged Bruckheimer for POP role", "yes he's gay but he doesn't do coke", "yes he's gay, but he didn't father a baby".
Nope, it doesn't work like that. Ted claimed all of the above as true as he did that Jake is gay.

Anonymous said...

No. Jake is not gay because of Toothy (or because of Brokeback) but JiS crowd want to keep pushing those talking points.

Why do you think that he's gay?

not 11:40 AM said...

Because he fakes relationships with women.

Anonymous said...

No. Jake is not gay because of Toothy (or because of Brokeback) but JiS crowd want to keep pushing those talking points.

No whether you believe in BT or not, the Jake is gay story is still pure speculation. Look up the deffinition of the word specualation and you will see it's meaning. No matter how much you or myself think Jake is gay or bi and yell from the highest mountain, it does not mean it's true. And you can take the words of others, but noone has admitted that he is gay. Nobody has come out and said it. Some have said that he is not. So once again you can think and say what you want about his sexuality, and this may all be true in YOUR Head, but you don't know it as a fact.
The truth is YOU Don't.
So stop acting as if you do.

Anonymous said...

Why do you think that he's gay?

LOL. Like you haven't read this blog before and read all the reasons. Stop playing stupid and pretending that you want to have a discussion. We've been over this 895,000 times.

Anonymous said...

Because he fakes relationships with women.

LOL, yes in your opinion. ;)

But whatever, everyone has a right to believe what they want.

Anonymous said...

No whether you believe in BT or not, the Jake is gay story is still pure speculation.

No, it isn't, we have more than enough proof that Jake bearded with RW.

Anonymous said...

11:50AM, calm down and ask yourself why you're so upset and being so dramatic - "yell from the highest mountain." LOL! Obviously we're dealing with people's opinions that they've formed in various ways and based on various things - it's all been repeated over and over again. Why do you care so much what is said on this blog? You should stay away from here if it gets you this riled. You know what goes on here but yet you can't stay away.

Anonymous said...

TT is one thing, Jake's life is another.

Sure Ted wants everyone to believe TT is Jake, and I do also. It's what he wants you to believe. I'm beginning to question a lot of what Ted writes now.

I'm in the category of Jake and Austin being caught messing around and some finding out and dishing to Ted. That's it. So in my head, Jake "May" be bisexual. I can look all I want, but I have not found any real evidence that he is totally gay, with Austin, or has a surrogate baby. It makes no sense to me. Ted will not detract this even if he was feed the wrong info. He just won't.

Anonymous said...

11:50 AM, it's better to give it up. Some posters think they know for sure, to be more accurate, they desperately want to believe it. No possibility that the guy may be bi or was bi curious at one point. No. It's pointless arguing.

Anonymous said...

Because he fakes relationships with women.
LOL, yes in your opinion. ;)


Your opinion that Jake dates women is somehow superior?

Give us a break with that "you can't know that someone is gay" crap, like no one guessed that gay celebrities are gay before their coming out.

Anonymous said...

11:58 AM - thing is, it doesn't stay here. In almost all of Jake posts over the internet, some OMG or posters from here, accuse him of lying, bearding or hiding babies. I'm sure you know that.

Anonymous said...

Some posters think they know for sure, to be more accurate, they desperately want to believe it.

What about your desperate wish that Jake is straight? Do you have any proof beside your wishful thinking?

Anonymous said...

Your opinion that Jake dates women is somehow superior?

I'm not claiming to know anything, unlike YOU!

Anonymous said...

What about your desperate wish that Jake is straight?

Don't play stupid. I didm't claim he is straight. I said that it's possible he's gay, bi, straight, bi curious etc...
But when you believe Ted, you believe he's gay. It's simple.

Anonymous said...

I said that it's possible he's gay, bi, straight, bi curious etc...

Yes, you would claim anything, ANYTHING just to fight JiG.

Anonymous said...

Your opinion that Jake dates women is somehow superior?
I'm not claiming to know anything, unlike YOU!


Are you new here?
I know = I'm 100% certain, I'm positive, I'm sure.
NO ONE ever claimed to have concrete proof - if that was the case Jake would have been outed long time ago.

Anonymous said...

Yes, you would claim anything, ANYTHING just to fight JiG.

No. I'm not fighting JiG, I'm just really sceptical towards Ted Casablanca.

I'm for everyone who is gay or bi to be open about it, especially celebs who are some kinds of role models. I'm disappointed it's still such a tabu in this day and age.

But all this hasn't anthing to do with ridiculous celeb gossipist Casablanca and his ridiculous claims.

Anonymous said...

thing is, it doesn't stay here. In almost all of Jake posts over the internet, some OMG or posters from here, accuse him of lying, bearding or hiding babies. I'm sure you know that.

Everybody who knows of Jake and reads the internet knows where those comments come from by now. Everybody. Everytime there is a picture of Jake anywhere you can bet the Jake is gay committee round up the troops. They are relentless. Makes no sense. The gay boys, the Slashies and the OMGers. Relentless. They act as if being gay is a problem and don't except that if he is, he has to deal with it in his time and on his terms.
What there motivation is I don't understand.
Then they get mad. Why?

12:12 PM # 2 said...

IMO ridiculous claims.

Anonymous said...

No. I'm not fighting JiG, I'm just really sceptical towards Ted Casablanca.

How many times do we need to tell you that Ted Casablanca is not the reason we believe Jake is gay? Would it help if I post that sentence 100 times?

Anonymous said...

How many times do we need to tell you that Ted Casablanca is not the reason we believe Jake is gay? Would it help if I post that sentence 100 times?

No, but other than Ted there is not much that suggests that Jake is indeed gay. Oh I forgot, the Reeke pictures are the ultimate proof. Right.

Anonymous said...

Sure Ted wants everyone to believe TT is Jake, and I do also. It's what he wants you to believe.

I don't need Ted to tell me Jake is gay, Jake's bearding CONVINCED me he's gay.

Anonymous said...

Oh I forgot, the Reeke pictures are the ultimate proof. Right.

You are free to believe tabloids and PR stories.
I can spot awkward body language and toothpicks and I know what that means.

Anonymous said...

Either you believe all of what Ted says (if you believe him) and not just what you want to believe, otherwise you're a big ol' hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

Oh I forgot, the Reeke pictures are the ultimate proof.

Yes, just like pictures of Ricky Martin and his beards were proof enough.

Anonymous said...

You are free to believe tabloids and PR stories.
I can spot awkward body language and toothpicks and I know what that means.


Give me a break. I never belived that he was so desperate for a baby and to marry her, but she refused, like tabs suggested. Never.

I believe even though real, they used Reeke for promo, she more so than him. He got sick of her and dumped her ass.

JMO.

Anonymous said...

In almost all of Jake posts over the internet, some OMG or posters from here, accuse him of lying, bearding or hiding babies. I'm sure you know that.

Oh, please. If it bothers you, go to babblers, go to DC Forum where any JiG talk has been banned. You can also hang out at the Jake fangirl sites like IHJ and WDW. Buy People Magazine. Buy USWeekly. Read the entertainment section of the NYTimes. But it's ridiculous to come HERE and complain about it when you know what you're going to find.

Anonymous said...

They act as if being gay is a problem and don't except that if he is, he has to deal with it in his time and on his terms.
What there motivation is I don't understand.



this is the type of homophobic "bs" I spoke about in past comments. complaining and trying to out someone who has "NOT" spoken against gay rights for gay people and gay causes. Someone who only has rumors about their sexuality, not real evidence. Then the gay fans for whatever reason continue to bash the person everywhere they can for hiding because.....?... All on rumors and speculations only.
This is homophobic actions from other homos.

Anonymous said...

I believe even though real, they used Reeke for promo, she more so than him. He got sick of her and dumped her ass.

Fine. But yet you hang out here and argue with people. It doesn't make sense. You're not going to change anyone's mind.

destiny said...

But wait a second, Destiny. Hasn't the party line always been that Jake or his people always see pap pics first and decide which ones get published? Or is that only the case when you want it to be the case?

Only trolls think there is a party line.

I don't rely on Ted for my belief that Jake is gay and that there is very likely a BT. So I could really care less that he claims there are no pap pictures of BT.

Anonymous said...

Oh, please. If it bothers you, go to babblers, go to DC Forum where any JiG talk has been banned.

OH ofcourse, this just helps with your continued bashing of someone you don't personally know, and continue your rant all over the net questioning his sexuality, right. It's fun to you of course. I hope you are not gay because you would probably be the first to claim someone was a homophobe to you and calling you names.

Anonymous said...

You are free to believe tabloids and PR stories.
Give me a break.


Why? You obviously believe tabloid fiction that Reeke was real. Or do you believe Reese Witherspoon? LMAO

Anonymous said...

Ted may not be the reason for "most" of you, but it was for me. I never would have given it a second thought otherwise. It wasn't because of Brokeback either, and I resent that implication in OUT. Many many people have played a homosexual character and it has not carried over into speculation about their real lives. And while Ted may or may not be the reason for the gay rumors, he certainly is the reason for the BT rumors. There's not a single shred of any other rumor or information otherwise.

Anonymous said...

Why? You obviously believe tabloid fiction that Reeke was real. Or do you believe Reese Witherspoon? LMAO

Like you claim Ted is not your reason to believe Jake is gay, faking it with Reese, having a secred tod and so on. My opinion that they may have been a real, famewhoring couple is not based on tabloids or what Witherspoon said. ;)

Anonymous said...

Oh, please. If it bothers you, go to babblers, go to DC Forum where any JiG talk has been banned.
******
OH ofcourse, this just helps with your continued bashing of someone you don't personally know, and continue your rant all over the net questioning his sexuality, right. It's fun to you of course. I hope you are not gay because you would probably be the first to claim someone was a homophobe to you and calling you names.



I agree

Anonymous said...

I hope you are not gay because you would probably be the first to claim someone was a homophobe to you and calling you names.

WTF is wrong with you? Saying that someone is gay is not homophobic.

Anonymous said...

There's not a single shred of any other rumor or information otherwise.

Gay rumors started after Donnie Darko, don't blame us for your ignorance.

Anonymous said...

Ted may not be the reason for "most" of you, but it was for me. I never would have given it a second thought otherwise.

Same here, BUT I believed Ted ONLY after I saw Reeke Rome 2007 pics. I believed Ted after that pathetic Reeke fakeness, not before.

destiny said...

Does saying someone is black make them a racist?

Does saying someone is a woman make them sexist?

Does saying that someone is elderly make you a senior citzen hater?

So why does saying someone is gay make you a homophobe?

12:40 PM said...

There's not a single shred of any other rumor or information otherwise.
Gay rumors started after Donnie Darko, don't blame us for your ignorance.


Oops, sorry, you were talking about BT - you are right about that.

Anonymous said...

Saying that someone is gay is not homophobic.


continued post all over the net claiming someone is gay trying to convince others the person is hiding and has a surrogate baby and dating another supposed gay actor without any "REAL" evidence is a form of abuse that can be catagorized as homophobic. Because in the same breath you are insinuating that something is wrong with being gay "somewhat" and slyly.
Then you are accusing them of something based on rumors and maybe your intuition only. It does not make it reality. But the damage is done because of your relentless accusing and bashing of the person living a lie when you don't really know.

Anonymous said...

OH ofcourse, this just helps with your continued bashing of someone you don't personally know, and continue your rant all over the net questioning his sexuality, right. It's fun to you of course. I hope you are not gay because you would probably be the first to claim someone was a homophobe to you and calling you names.


oh, ffs, get a clue and chill out. I don't "rant" all over the internet and I don't post at any other site. In fact, I don't visit any other Jake sites. I've never "bashed" Jake. I think he's a fine actor and he seems like a decent guy. I've formed my OWN opinion that he's not straight, but so what? That's not an insult, imo. I'm not forcing you or anyone else to come here and I'm not trying to convince you. You're the one who is "ranting." You need to examine your own reasons for coming here.

Anonymous said...

Gay rumors started after Donnie Darko, don't blame us for your ignorance.

There are gay/bi rumors about almost every male Hollywood actor. Some of them are true, some not.

Anonymous said...

is a form of abuse that can be catagorized as homophobic

No, it isn't. You are projecting your own homophobia. Do you go around and complain about people who post straight gossip? Of course you don't, to you only gay gossip is bad and insulting.

Anonymous said...

Does saying someone is black make them a racist?


Claiming a white person who has skin darker than most white people as black or mixed, then continue to claim this to anyone who will listen when the person has said that they are not black is racist.

Same goes for the opposite, light skinned black person who looks white and who is accused of being white when person says they are not white.

Anonymous said...

Some of them are true, some not.

Some actors confirm gay gossip (Jake, Cooper), some don't (Keanu Reeves).

Anonymous said...

Same here, BUT I believed Ted ONLY after I saw Reeke Rome 2007 pics. I believed Ted after that pathetic Reeke fakeness, not before.

If you perceived Reeke as faking it and now believe everything Ted dishes about Jake aka Toothy, it's fine. It just goes on my nerves when some believe some of the Toothy stories, but others (like sex for roles, hard drugs, baby) conveniently not. It's all or nothing.

Anonymous said...

Then you are accusing them of something based on rumors and maybe your intuition only.

You can't accuse anyone of being gay because being gay isn't wrong. Do you expect people to gossip only about straight celebrities?

Anonymous said...

No, it isn't. You are projecting your own homophobia. Do you go around and complain about people who post straight gossip? Of course you don't, to you only gay gossip is bad and insulting.

To be fair, Jake himself said he was straight. And in OUT said that he was never really sexually attracted to another guy, but he wouldn't be afraid if it happened.

Anonymous said...

It just goes on my nerves when some believe some of the Toothy stories, but others (like sex for roles, hard drugs, baby) conveniently not. It's all or nothing.

It isn't, gossip isn't mathematics.

Anonymous said...

To be fair, Jake himself said he was straight. And in OUT said that he was never really sexually attracted to another guy, but he wouldn't be afraid if it happened.

I don't understand, what is your point?

Anonymous said...

You need to examine your own reasons for coming here.


Maybe, maybe not.

Your comment of going over to G or babbler is the problem I have.

If your disagreeing with me causes you to tell me to go to babbler or whatever you call it, it's a lame excuse for real evidence of his sexuality. I could careless also. And for the record, I "think" he's bi. Until it's proven or he says he's other.

Anonymous said...

oh, ffs, get a clue and chill out. I don't "rant" all over the internet and I don't post at any other site.

Maybe not you, but many of the OMG, WFT 2 posters. Not "accusing" him of being gay, but accusing him of lying... regarding his sexuality, relationship with a fellow actor/friend, hiding a baby.
Maybe you should read some of the Jake posts across the net, then you'd know.

Anonymous said...

It isn't, gossip isn't mathematics.

But it's one person who dishes the gossip about Toothy. Not many sources, some of which you regard as more or less credible.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand, what is your point?

It's Jake's word against Ted's. Some believe Jake, some believe Ted and therefore that Jake is lying.

Anonymous said...

Dear Ted:
Have we ever seen Baby Tile in photos and not realized the connection to Toothy? I'm just curious whether Baby Tile has been hiding under our noses all along.
—Curious

Dear Tile Overload:
Ah, the adorable saga of Baby Tile! Trust, B.T. has never appeared in a paparazzi pic. Toothy would never allow it.

destiny said...

The only Jake sites I post on are WFT2 and OMG, I never ever post on GB, WWD or IHJ. No point in posting on a JIS site.

If I think someone is lying it is my right to not believe him or her and to express my opinion that they are lying.

Questioning and not falling for PR dribble does not make someone a homophobe.

Anonymous said...

^^I bet some BTers sent Ted the Paris baby pic. So it's safe to say that BT is the baby in the pic.

Anonymous said...

isn't

Anonymous said...

It's Jake's word against Ted's. Some believe Jake, some believe Ted and therefore that Jake is lying.

No, it is Jake behavior against Ted's word. That's why I'm sure Jake lies about his sexuality.

Anonymous said...

Constantly dwelling on those single characteristics of a person to the exclusion of all else would give one pause, yes.

Anonymous said...

My personal feeling is I don't know what the situation is. Just because I don't accept rumor hook, line and sinker doesn't mean I think anything for sure one way or the other.

Anonymous said...

1:21 PM #2, is it our fault that Jake bearded like crazy for two years instead of using sports or Green Schools or something else to show public that he cares about something else beside his "straight" image?

Anonymous said...

Maybe you should read some of the Jake posts across the net, then you'd know.

I have no reason to do that. I'm not going to hunt what you perceive as Jake "insults" across the net. Why would I care? Stop looking for stuff that upsets you.

Anonymous said...

To be fair, Jake himself said he was straight. And in OUT said that he was never really sexually attracted to another guy, but he wouldn't be afraid if it happened.
*****
I don't understand, what is your point?


Of course you don't. It's very simple. He stated that he was not gay. Now either you believe him or you believe the rumors. Very simple. He stated it.

Or, you can say "he's lying, most in the closet male actors lie about being gay until they get old". This "may" be the situation here, it may not be, but the problem happens when fans continue to promote the "Rumors" based on no facts, only their reasoning, intuition, and for gosh sakes, a blind item from Ted ONLY.

Anonymous said...

But it's one person who dishes the gossip about Toothy. Not many sources, some of which you regard as more or less credible.

So what? Jake himself showed me that he's gay, most credible source ever.

Anonymous said...

is it our fault that Jake bearded like crazy for two years instead of using sports or Green Schools or something else to show public that he cares about something else beside his "straight" image?

^^^

It's obvious you only care about his Gay image. True?

Anonymous said...

destiny said...
The only Jake sites I post on are WFT2 and OMG, I never ever post on GB, WWD or IHJ. No point in posting on a JIS site.
If I think someone is lying it is my right to not believe him or her and to express my opinion that they are lying.
Questioning and not falling for PR dribble does not make someone a homophobe.


I may not agree with you about BT, destiny, but IA with all of this. Well said. I would never think of posting on any of those other sites, either.

Anonymous said...

Stop looking for stuff that upsets you.

I happen to read sites that post pics of Jake and read the comments. I don't think I'll stop doing that as long as I'm a fan of his.

Anonymous said...

It's obvious you only care about his Gay image. True?

It's obvious that you didn't read my comment. It was Jake's decision to spend 2,5 years on selling only his "straight" image and NOT using sports or Green Schools or something else for PR.

Anonymous said...

I disagree with his opinion of Jake as an actor, but I agree that Anne is talented as well as beautiful.

Anne Hathaway, The Enchanting Star of “Love & Other Drugs”, Isn’t Just A Pretty Face

Anonymous said...

and NOT using sports or Green Schools or something else for PR.

This is so true. Remember how politically outspoken he used to be? That disappeared in a flash when the bearding started.

Anonymous said...

This "may" be the situation here, it may not be, but the problem happens when fans continue to promote the "Rumors" based on no facts, only their reasoning, intuition, and for gosh sakes, a blind item from Ted ONLY.

ALL fans, not just Jake fans, gossip and spread rumors based on their reasoning and intuition, not hard facts. Are you aware of that?

Anonymous said...

It was Jake's decision to spend 2,5 years on selling only his "straight" image and NOT using sports or Green Schools or something else for PR.


In your opinion, selling a straight image is a problem for you because you believe he is gay, and no possibility of anything else even though he stated other. So this offends you. The problem I have with this is you don't have any real facts for your accusotory statement. NONE

So nothing he does will be good for you unless he admits he's gay and comes out. And you could be wrong. You may be right, but you have only your thoughts as concrete evidence to back this, and that's not enough for me, most reasonable people or any court. Sorry

Anonymous said...

ALL fans, not just Jake fans, gossip and spread rumors based on their reasoning and intuition, not hard facts. Are you aware of that?

Are you aware that some of the TT/Ted believers are a VERY vocal little group with an agenda. Which is, in their opinion, exposing him as a liar.

Anonymous said...

Wow, James Franco looks kinda awesome in hiking gear. :) Just saw him on the Anne Hathaway page.

I shouldn't say "replacement" either for Batman 3, poor choice of words. It's unfair to saddle an actor with that baggage of being the next Heath Ledger. Can't be done anyway. They are not Heath. I still hope it's JGL for the next villain.

destiny said...

Remember how politically outspoken he used to be? That disappeared in a flash when the bearding started.

I think Jake was trying to build up his fan base for POP and to get himself on the A-list. I think he thought the way to do it was to be a safe, straight suburban stepdad type. Blonde beard that was America's sweetheart, baggy sexless clothes, avoid saying or doing anything that could offend anyone ......

Anonymous said...

1:41 PM, stop playing stupid. I was answering "it's obvious you only care about his Gay image" comment by explaining that there was just ONE public image for 2,5 years - Jake as "heterosexual" boyfriend - so there was nothing else to care about.

Anonymous said...

Wow, James Franco looks kinda awesome in hiking gear. :)

I don't find him that good looking. He also comes off as pretentious to me. Full of himself. But he's choosing some good roles lately. He really does.

Anonymous said...

Yes. :)

Anonymous said...

You may be right, but you have only your thoughts as concrete evidence to back this, and that's not enough for me, most reasonable people or any court.

You aren't reasonable at all. What else do YOU have? Nothing. But you keep complaining about others like you're something else.

destiny said...

Are you aware that some of the TT/Ted believers are a VERY vocal little group with an agenda. Which is, in their opinion, exposing him as a liar.

So what if some feel that way?

Personally I think someone like Jake who beards and spouts off things like "every man needs a woman" does a lot of damage. Maybe not as much as closeted politicians and clergy, but they are part of the problem. But I'm just one person. I think there are a lot of people who think Jake is gay and bearding and lying who never post on a Jake site.

Anonymous said...

What else do YOU have?

Jake's word? But that obviously doesn't count here.

Anonymous said...

and that's not enough for me, most reasonable people or any court.

Okay. 1. You don't have to read anything you don't like or visit this blog where you know what the discussion is going to be like. 2. You can only speak for yourself, "reasonable" is all a matter of perspective. 3. LOL at "any court." Yeah, that's what's going on here. We're gearing up for a court case. That is too funny.

Anonymous said...

Are you aware that some of the TT/Ted believers are a VERY vocal little group with an agenda. Which is, in their opinion, exposing him as a liar.

You can't expose closet cases without hard proof. And we don't have hard proof so you don't need to worry.

Anonymous said...

So what if some feel that way?

What if it's not true? What if trying to expose him as a homophobic homosexual, hiding bf and !!!baby isn't true? It would be smearing his reputation, all based on what a smug gossiper says.

Anonymous said...

Jake as "heterosexual" boyfriend - so there was nothing else to care about.


Ok, so that explains it. So you are saying he should have promoted an I'm out, gay and have a boyfriend image instead of what you think he promoted? Regardless of his statement in OUT magazine? So you are saying he's lying.

Anonymous said...

So you are saying he's lying.

I think that's the consensus here, yes.

Anonymous said...

Back in the glorious days of the 1940s when romantic comedies had teeth, Hathaway would be one of those tough sexy wisecracking broads like Carole Lombard, Rosalind Russell or Barbara Stanwyck.

I love it. Anne looks beautiful in that clip, theres a vulnerability and a strength in her eyes.

Anonymous said...

LOL at "any court." Yeah, that's what's going on here. We're gearing up for a court case. That is too funny.

^^NO, no court case. But it "IS a FACT"! Make a note of it.

Anonymous said...

What if it's not true? What if trying to expose him as a homophobic homosexual, hiding bf and !!!baby isn't true? It would be smearing his reputation, all based on what a smug gossiper says.

Jake's bearding was homophobic. All closeted celebrities hide their lovers. No one believes there is BT.

Anonymous said...

What if it's not true? What if trying to expose him as a homophobic homosexual, hiding bf and !!!baby isn't true? It would be smearing his reputation, all based on what a smug gossiper says.

What do you suggest? That people stop posting gay gossip? That people stop discussing Hollywood PR machine and lies?

Anonymous said...

No one believes there is BT.

No one? LOL.

Anonymous said...

What do you suggest? That people stop posting gay gossip? That people stop discussing Hollywood PR machine and lies?

^^^
Well, if there are no pictures or no hard facts, them maybe, Yes.

Especially with Surrogate baby?? LOL

Anonymous said...

No one believes there is BT.
No one? LOL.


There are JiG die hard fans who believe there is BT. That's it. In terms of general gossip public that equals to 'no one believes there is BT'.

Anonymous said...

Well, if there are no pictures or no hard facts, them maybe, Yes.

So, basically, you have an agenda? Do you think this blog should be shut down? Do you think every gossip site everywhere on the internet should shut down?

Anonymous said...

Well, if there are no pictures or no hard facts, them maybe, Yes.

Would you propose the same rules for straight gossip? Because that would mean no gossip at all.

Anonymous said...

There are JiG die hard fans who believe there is BT. That's it. In terms of general gossip public that equals to 'no one believes there is BT'.

They are still not "no one".

Anonymous said...

Well, if there are no pictures or no hard facts, them maybe, Yes.

So, basically, you have an agenda? Do you think this blog should be shut down? Do you think every gossip site everywhere on the internet should shut down? How about People magazine? or USWeekly? Don't they publish articles without "hard facts" and without pictures? Don't they publish articles based on what "a source" said, or what a "close friend" said?

destiny said...

Then people should also stop posting and talking about straight gossip and pr-approved pieces as well.

It would be smearing his reputation, all based on what a smug gossiper says.

It's only a smear if you think being gay is a bad thing.

Besides, it's not any of us here are Perez Hilton, or editors of the NE and running hit pieces on the stars. So I don't know why you're so riled up about what we think and say about Jake here.

Anonymous said...

So, basically, you have an agenda? Do you think this blog should be shut down? Do you think every gossip site everywhere on the internet should shut down? How about People magazine? or USWeekly? Don't they publish articles without "hard facts" and without pictures? Don't they publish articles based on what "a source" said, or what a "close friend" said?

And how reliable are they? Every smart person takes what rags write with a grain of salt. As should be done with what internet gossipists say. And not run across the internet and promoting it as pure fact.

Anonymous said...

Tabloids promote bullshit and fiction as pure facts in millions of copies.

Anonymous said...

Tabloids promote bullshit and fiction as pure facts in millions of copies.

Anonymous said...

It's only a smear if you think being gay is a bad thing.

Don't come with this tiring BS again, Destiny. Smearing not because of the possibility that he is gay, but smearing because you say he lies about his sexuality (being ashamed of it), hiding bf and baby. I think I already made myself clear.

Anonymous said...

Every smart person takes what rags write with a grain of salt. As should be done with what internet gossipists say. And not run across the internet and promoting it as pure fact.

You aren't making sense. People take rags with a grain of salt, but believe 100% comments posted on gossip sites and blogs?

Anonymous said...

Tabloids promote bullshit and fiction as pure facts in millions of copies.

As do internet gossipists like Ted. All of them should be taken with a grain of salt.

Anonymous said...

As should be done with what internet gossipists say. And not run across the internet and promoting it as pure fact.


^^^ = Ted and all the (JIG) "Jake is Gay and no possibility of any sexuality" fans

no other possibilities LOL

Anonymous said...

Smearing not because of the possibility that he is gay, but smearing because you say he lies about his sexuality (being ashamed of it), hiding bf and baby.

So we should pretend that there are no closeted celebrities, no one should ever mention that???
Because hiding in the closet = lying about your sexuality.

Anonymous said...

Ted and all the (JIG) "Jake is Gay and no possibility of any sexuality" fans
no other possibilities LOL


You are free to pretend that there are other possibilities till the end of time.
I'm sure Jake is gay.

Anonymous said...

You aren't making sense. People take rags with a grain of salt, but believe 100% comments posted on gossip sites and blogs?

I said most smart people take rags, internet gossip, etc. with a grain of salt. And what they say should be taken with a grain of salt and not promoted as fact and spread all over net, as some die hard Ted believers do.

Anonymous said...

And how reliable are they? Every smart person takes what rags write with a grain of salt. As should be done with what internet gossipists say. And not run across the internet and promoting it as pure fact.

That's my point. They're not anymore reliable than anyone else, but you're not complaining about them. Most of them are PR rags that print what publicists want them to print in order to secure interviews, etc. Why don't you go and write a letter to the editors of those magazines and give them the same lecture you're trying to sell here. And get a grip. No one is "running across" the internet promoting anything as "fact." No one can be forced into believing anything.

Anonymous said...

"I don't rely on Ted for my belief that Jake is gay and that there is very likely a BT. So I could really care less that he claims there are no pap pictures of BT."

Sorry Destiney but this is utter nonsense - the only person ever claimed that there is indeed a BT was Ted. So in fact you rely on him - otherwise nobody would talk about a baby and for ex. the woman in Paris would be some regular woman carrying a baby stroller.

destiny said...

I have no doubt Jake is gay, so calling him on his dishonesty is not a smear. I rarely post on non-Jake sites, but so what if I were to say "Jake is gay and bearding" in say, a Reeke post. I haven't called him a cheat and a liar by doing that. I've just stated my belief. If it causes others to think Jake is a liar, it is only because they also think he is gay and bearding.

Anonymous said...

Some die hard Ted believers promote what they believe is true, just as all other people who like gossip. Everyone knows (or should know) what's gossip and what are facts. I don't see problem there.

Anonymous said...

Don't come with this tiring BS again, Destiny. Smearing not because of the possibility that he is gay, but smearing because you say he lies about his sexuality (being ashamed of it), hiding bf and baby. I think I already made myself clear.


the smearing is constantly saying he's lying with no evidence to prove it he is. And, has a bf and a surrogate baby or 2.
Talk about smearing??
Specualtion is one thing, but attacking him for lying as if you know what is truth is the biggest peice of crap I've read.

If he is gay, he is not hurting anyone and has not asked to be a spokesperson for the cause. And he should not have to be. He should come out when "he" is good and ready. Celebrity or NOT.

And if he is NOT Gay, shame on the posters with their know it all attitude claiming they know the truth and trying to push their agenda.

destiny said...

It wasn't until I saw a lot of things that seem to support the existence of BT that I really began to think there is a BT. Before then I went back and forth on his or her existence. And I'd say I'm still only at 90%, not 100%. And no, it's not just the Paris photos. It's the Paris photos and a lot of other things.

Anonymous said...

And get a grip. No one is "running across" the internet promoting anything as "fact."

You should get a grip. There is a small group (how are the names, holdenca, sk, blah blah whatever the names are) who pathologically need to post their opinion as fact all over the net. I don't buy rags, but sometimes read them when I come across them and have to laugh about some shit. But reading this vocal Ted supports and their accusations at every site that posts a story or pics about Jake... that's when I have the urge to tell them stop being so pathological about it!

destiny said...

I have no problem with people staying in the closet.

I do have a problem with bearding, especially when you bash people over the head with it ala Reeke, pushing straight as the only norm in your interviews so that you look super straight, making Youtube videos to show what a woman-chasing man you are, gagging over the idea of kissing a man, and hiding a child.

Anonymous said...

making Youtube videos to show what a woman-chasing man you are,

He made videos? Can you enlighten me or post a link?

Anonymous said...

the smearing is constantly saying he's lying with no evidence to prove it he is. And, has a bf and a surrogate baby or 2.
Talk about smearing??


YOU don't have and don't think you need evidence for straight Jake, but insist that people need evidence for gay Jake? Homophobic bullshit.

Anonymous said...

He made videos? Can you enlighten me or post a link?

Search for Jake and Russian girls.

Anonymous said...

I do have a problem with bearding, especially when you bash people over the head with it ala Reeke, pushing straight as the only norm in your interviews so that you look super straight, making Youtube videos to show what a woman-chasing man you are, gagging over the idea of kissing a man, and hiding a child.

Destiny, Sorry, you have an agenda. It's plain as daylight. Every accusatory statement you've made in that comment is rubbish and your beliefs. Yet you carry on as if it's fact, then get upset about it as if he and his existance disrutps your life. It should not. You should be railing against the politicians and Clergy who bash gays and gay rights, the ones in the closets and the straight ones. If anything, Jake has done some things for gay rights, I can name a few. But I know you will rebut this with an attack of how he's hurting you by not coming out. You need to get a grip. He can choose to live "his" life for himself, not for you or any person seeking a spokesperson, there are many others to choose from. And since you have not posted any pictures or brought to this discussion someone actually who admits with their own mouth what you claim Jake is, Sorry it's still hearsay, speculation, your beleifs and rumors for NOW.

Anonymous said...

2:45 PM - Jake himself said he was straight. Some believe him, you obviously don't.
How's that homophobic?

Anonymous said...

Search for Jake and Russian girls.

Oh that! I don't think he made that video. I'm not even sure he was aware of being filmed. But you probably think he paid the pap to film him, so he'll look straight, right? Thought so. ;)

Anonymous said...

There is a small group...

Then go complain to SK at the OMG site. This isn't it. I have no idea who or what "holdenca" is. If you think Ted is to blame for everything, then e-mail him. And read your own words - "a small group." So don't worry about it. The rags that you sometimes "come across" have a much larger readership so maybe you should spend your time worrying more about them. Or worrying about yourself and why you're so bothered.

Anonymous said...

Then go complain to SK at the OMG site. This isn't it.Or worrying about yourself and why you're so bothered.

I already explained why I'm "bothered" ad nauseum.

Anonymous said...

Oh that! I don't think he made that video. I'm not even sure he was aware of being filmed.

WTF? Everyone can see that he didn't hold video camera + it is obvious that video wasn't made in 5 minutes + that was a private party = Jake was aware of being filmed and he acted accordingly.

2:54 said...

Then go complain to SK at the OMG site. This isn't it.

I'm sure some of them post on WFT 2 too. ;)

Anonymous said...

But you probably think he paid the pap to film him, so he'll look straight, right? Thought so.

I'm sure Jake had no idea about 178 arranged Reeke photo ops, including Madrid museum. LMAO

destiny said...

Yes you have "explained" yourself a million times. We get it, you see red when someone says something you don't like about Jake, especially if it has anything to do with The Gay.

Anonymous said...

That was not some random woman in the Paris photo. Ava ran up to her and touched the baby.

Anonymous said...


I'm sure Jake had no idea about 178 arranged Reeke photo ops, including Madrid museum. LMAO


Even if I think Reeke may have dated, I never said they didn't use the ship for promo purposes. I think some ops were planned, some with some w/o his knowledge. In my opinion. ;)

Anonymous said...

That was not some random woman in the Paris photo. Ava ran up to her and touched the baby.

Then Ted must be lying that the baby wasn't pictured, because sure as hell the pic from Paris was sent to him.

Anonymous said...

3:00 PM - nice excuse to turn shameless bearding into standard PR work.

Anonymous said...

3:00 PM - nice excuse to turn shameless bearding into standard PR work.

I don't turn anything, it's my opinion as is your "shameless bearding".

Anonymous said...

Yes you have "explained" yourself a million times. We get it, you see red when someone says something you don't like about Jake, especially if it has anything to do with The Gay.

Who is "WE"?

You have also explained yourself countless times. I've read them.

No I just disagree with you and don't think Jake coming out if he's gay is a big deal. Period

And since I don't know for sure if he's str8, bisexual or gay, I can't say for sure that he has bearded with any woman. I have my thoughts about what his sexuality is, but it's my thoughts, it don't make them True. So others that do the opposited, (Think their thoughts are consise FACTS), I will question them. I don't see it. That's all.

Anonymous said...

That was not some random woman in the Paris photo. Ava ran up to her and touched the baby.

Back then I was convinced that the woman was BT's nanny! But since Jake and Austin didn't do anything that would suggest they are parents ... I must conclude that BT doesn't exist.

Anonymous said...

Yes you have "explained" yourself a million times. We get it, you see red when someone says something you don't like about Jake, especially if it has anything to do with The Gay.

Who is "WE"?

You have also explained yourself countless times. I've read them.

No I just disagree with you and don't think Jake coming out if he's gay is a big deal. Period

And since I don't know for sure if he's str8, bisexual or gay, I can't say for sure that he has bearded with any woman. I have my thoughts about what his sexuality is, but it's my thoughts, it don't make them True. So others that do the opposited, (Think their thoughts are consise FACTS), I will question them. I don't see it. That's all.

Anonymous said...

I will question them. I don't see it. That's all.

What? You think that we already forgot your comments? You don't question, you trash JiG fans because for you gay is not OK.

Anonymous said...

Two closeted gay men are going to act like parents in public? I don't think so.

Although I do think Austin talking about Busy's kid is unusual. Why would he be hanging out with Busy and her child. Play dates with BT?

Anonymous said...

I have my thoughts about what his sexuality is, but it's my thoughts, it don't make them True.

True??? You can't make anything true by posting your opinion. You are just pissed off because people dare to have their opinions about gay Jake.

Anonymous said...

What? You think that we already forgot your comments? You don't question, you trash JiG fans because for you gay is not OK.


You're Wrong.. T
here is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay in my book.

Anonymous said...

What? You think that we already forgot your comments? You don't question, you trash JiG fans because for you gay is not OK.

I'm not 3:05 PM, but I'm sure s/he doesn't think gay is not ok. 3:10 PM, I think you can't deal with posters who think differently than you do, like that there is a possibility that Jake is bi, so you try to make those posters look like evil homophobes.

Anonymous said...

Two closeted gay men are going to act like parents in public? I don't think so.

Why do you insist on plying stupid? How can that be good or smart or anything good?

Anonymous said...

You are just pissed off because people dare to have their opinions about gay Jake.


Wrong. what does piss me off is those who suffer from a bad case of *knowitallism*. Knowing all there is to know and EVERYTHING about JG sexual preference and life and don't know him at all.
Just fans.

Anonymous said...

Although I do think Austin talking about Busy's kid is unusual. Why would he be hanging out with Busy and her child. Play dates with BT?

If both are befriended with Jake, it's natural they ran into each other and maybe became friends too?

Anonymous said...

Just fans.

Some are not even fans. Disappointed that he doesn't come out as gay and present his boyfriend and kid, they even wish his career and movies to fail. LOL. Pathetic much?

Anonymous said...

Wrong. what does piss me off is those who suffer from a bad case of *knowitallism*. Knowing all there is to know and EVERYTHING about JG sexual preference and life and don't know him at all.
Just fans.


Then don't come here. Stick to GB, WWD, IHJ and DC where they know how to be "just fans."

Anonymous said...

3:10 PM, I think you can't deal with posters who think differently than you do, like that there is a possibility that Jake is bi, so you try to make those posters look like evil homophobes.

You mean posters who are homophobes like this one: " Then you are accusing them of something based on rumors and maybe your intuition only."?
And you didn't notice that those "differently" thinking posters are on this JiG blog trashing everyone who thinks Jake is gay?

Anonymous said...

Wrong. what does piss me off is those who suffer from a bad case of *knowitallism*. Knowing all there is to know and EVERYTHING about JG sexual preference and life and don't know him at all.˙

I know enough to be 100% sure that Jake is gay. Why do you have a problem with that? Why do you blame others because you aren't sure what to think?

Anonymous said...

I already explained why I'm "bothered" ad nauseum.

And where is that getting you? We get it. You can stop already. You're bothered because you think Jake is being trashed, etc. But he's not your personal friend so you still need to ask yourself why it bothers you so much even if you think people are trashing him.

Eddie Long said...

And since you have not posted any pictures or brought to this discussion someone actually who admits with their own mouth what you claim Jake is, Sorry it's still hearsay, speculation, your beleifs and rumors for NOW.

oh NO, close that closet, the skeletons are falling out. Where's the Key?

Anonymous said...

I know enough to be 100% sure that Jake is gay. Why do you have a problem with that? Why do you blame others because you aren't sure what to think?

LOL. Hilarious.

To 3:17 PM - it's really pointless arguing. There are some posters who are 100% convinced they know Jake's sexual preference. Another few will never let go of BT, no matter if we never ever see the kid.

I, as a fan, hope Jake will get his career back on track and will live his life how he chooses to.

Anonymous said...

And you didn't notice that those "differently" thinking posters are on this JiG blog trashing everyone who thinks Jake is gay?

It's not a JiG blog, it's a WFT blog and as you probably remember, Ted's Toothy was bi initially.

Anonymous said...

Some are not even fans.

My God. How dare they. How dare anyone not be a fan. How is that even possible?

What's pathetic is caring so much what anyone else thinks. If you are someone who only wants to read gushing adoration, fine. Restrict your reading.

Anonymous said...

This is JiG blog and Ted said more than once that Toothy is GAY.

Anonymous said...

To 3:17 PM - it's really pointless arguing.

I know, I know. just waiting for someone and posting while waiting. I'm out of here.

P.s I am a big Jake fan whatever, straight, bisexual and even GAY. and IN the Closet.

Anonymous said...

Ted's Toothy was bi initially.

I thought we weren't supposed to treat Ted's word as gospel. That we're supposed to think for ourselves :)

Anonymous said...

I thought we weren't supposed to treat Ted's word as gospel. That we're supposed to think for ourselves :)

Just wanted to show his contradictions. ;)

Anonymous said...

LOL. Hilarious.

3:31 PM, what is hilarious about pointing out that people who keep saying that Jake could be straight, bi or gay aren't sure what to think about Jake's sexuality? Please explain.

3:31 PM said...

P.s I am a big Jake fan whatever, straight, bisexual and even GAY. and IN the Closet.

Likewise. :)

Anonymous said...

I thought we weren't supposed to treat Ted's word as gospel. That we're supposed to think for ourselves.

Would you please be kind to read the post before commenting? Maybe even try not to make up shit?

It's not a JiG blog, it's a WFT blog and as you probably remember, Ted's Toothy was bi initially.
This is JiG blog and Ted said more than once that Toothy is GAY.

Anonymous said...

3:31 PM, what is hilarious about pointing out that people who keep saying that Jake could be straight, bi or gay aren't sure what to think about Jake's sexuality? Please explain.

Simple. We as fans (those among us who are fans) don't know who Jake sleeps with, whom he prefers in bed. Saying "I don't know about his preference" is the most truthful statement that can be made.

Anonymous said...

Just wanted to show his contradictions. ;)

I'm not sure there is a contradiction. You know there is not a big black line drawn between gay and straight. Sometimes people can truly be bi-sexual and sometimes they date the opposite sex before they figure out where their true preference lies or can admit it. There are many, many gay men who have dated women. If dating women and having sex with women makes someone bi-sexual, then Neil Patrick Harris would be bi-sexual. But he isn't. Elton John started out calling himself bi-sexual, too.

Anonymous said...

Saying "I don't know about his preference" is the most truthful statement that can be made.

We didn't know who Clay sleeps with, but we did know he's gay. We didn't know who Ricky sleeps with, but we did know he's gay. We don't know who Quinto sleeps with, but we know he's gay. Yes, it is possible to know people are gay before they are out.

Anonymous said...

Simple. We as fans (those among us who are fans) don't know who Jake sleeps with, whom he prefers in bed. Saying "I don't know about his preference" is the most truthful statement that can be made.

Fine. If that's the most truthful statement for you. But it doesn't sound like this is the place you'd want to hang out then :)

Only 300 people? said...

Why not New York? Supporters of gay and lesbian marriage rights march in Foley Square

Over 300 supporters of gay and lesbian marriage rights rallied for the cause in Manhattan's Foley Square on Sunday.

They're ticked off because New York has not joined California and Massachusetts in granting marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

"This is a New York state disgrace," said Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer.

A colorful crowd trekked over the Brooklyn Bridge armed with rainbow flags during the Seventh Marriage Equality Wedding March.

"The love, families and relationships of all New Yorkers deserve to be treated equally under the law," said Brian Silva, Marraige Equality New York's events director and lead organizer of the march.

The march, which had the largest turnout yet, left some of New York's LGBT couples feeling optimistic about their chances of becoming legally recognized as a family.

"It's only a matter of time before we get the same rights as everyone else," said Laurie Lynn, 46, a high school administrator from Long Island.

Lynn, while holding a protest sign with one hand and her girlfriend of more than 22 years, Jeneane Claps, 49, with the other, said she is confident same-sex marriage will be legalized in the near future.

"I know New York will do the right thing," Lynn said

Anonymous said...

DC is the perfect place for anyone who doesn't like speculation about Jake's sex life, they've banned the topic over there. Of course in DC speak sex life means whether Jake is gay, but I think you'll be very happy over there.

destiny said...

only 300 people

I think one reason for the low turnout may be the fact that there are so many marriage equality groups in New York, and there have been a lot of rallies over the last year or two. I also don't know how well this particular event was publicized. Throw in the fact that it was a Sunday morning, aplus the fact that most people are not going to turn out for a rally of any kind.

I didn't make it to this one, but I make it to most of them. But I usually go alone because most of my friends can't be bothered and/or don't think rallies do any good.

destiny said...
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Anonymous said...

But I usually go alone because most of my friends can't be bothered and/or don't think rallies do any good.

Why doesn't your girlfriend go with you?

Anonymous said...

Looking at the trailer for Love & Other Drugs, it doesn’t seem too promising. It doesn’t help that Jake Gyllenhaal (a smug narcissist of an actor) is the lead and the premise (a pharmaceutical salesman pimping Viagra finds True Love) sounds ridiculous.

Ouch.

Anonymous said...

Simple. We as fans (those among us who are fans) don't know who Jake sleeps with, whom he prefers in bed. Saying "I don't know about his preference" is the most truthful statement that can be made.

Did you advise the same to babblers and IHJ fangirls? Of course you didn't, only fans who think Jake is gay are supposed to pretend they don't know about his preference because gay is not OK!

Anonymous said...

Although I do think Austin talking about Busy's kid is unusual. Why would he be hanging out with Busy and her child. Play dates with BT?

Not unusual - Austin used the opportunity to show off and remind Busy to follow him on twitter.
Who said Austin hangs out with Busy?

Anonymous said...

Who said Austin hangs out with Busy?

Well, for him to make a comparative statement like: @Busyphilipps25 pretty much the coolest kid I know. Say hello for me, I would suspect he must hang out with Busy and the family.

Anonymous said...

I thought that tweet was odd too. Why would a supposed bachelor with no kids, be so familiar with Birdie that he would be able to make a statement about a two-year old little girl.

Anonymous said...

5:31 PM, I think you don't follow Austin's tweets. So far Busy didn't tweet anything to Austin and she doesn't follow him - so much for being friends.

Anonymous said...

So Busy's kid is cooler than Austin's nephew, niece, Ramona (and BT for those who believe it exists)? Please, that tweet is a sorry cry for attention like pretty much every other crap Austin tweets. Whoever said he wants Busy to follow him back hit the nail on the head.

Anonymous said...

Why would a supposed bachelor with no kids, be so familiar with Birdie that he would be able to make a statement about a two-year old little girl.

Austin didn't make a statement, he just kissed some celebrity ass.

Anonymous said...

I'm not 5:31 PM, but if what you say is true then it is even stranger than Austin would make a statement like he did. For someone to say a little girl is cool he must have social interaction with the mother because I doubt he's going around meeting two year olds at Hollywood parties or surfing events or One Tree Hill television sets.

destiny said...

My girlfriend has gone to a few rallies, and we had hoped to make the one on Sunday but didn't. But not everybody is as passionate about or has the time to attend rallies.

Anonymous said...

You keep forgetting that Austin is full of shit. Didn't you read his tweets before?

Anonymous said...

Didn't Busy show up at the Prince of Persia Premiere in LA? I know I've seen photos of her and Jake at the Farmers Market and then Jake went to her little girls birthday party in August. Oh, I see why you don't want there to be a connection. Another small world were Austin and Jake might be connected.

Anonymous said...

Austin didn't make a statement, he just kissed some celebrity ass.

Busy is not that big of a celebrity.

Anonymous said...

So what? Busy lives in LA and is friends with Jake. Austin lives in LA and is friends with Jake. They likely ran into each other. I don't see anything odd about it.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I see why you don't want there to be a connection. Another small world were Austin and Jake might be connected.

Connected??? Is that why Jake doesn't give a shit about being near to Austin?

Anonymous said...

Busy is not that big of a celebrity.

She is for Austin.

Anonymous said...

Oh, I see why you don't want there to be a connection. Another small world were Austin and Jake might be connected.

What are you talking about, Jake and Austin have been in the same circle of friends for years. No one ever denied that. But that doesn't mean they are a couple.

Anonymous said...

From @Busyphilipps25: "Pretty much the epitome of cool." http://yfrog.com/ep6qnwj

Austin is responding to a tweet from Busy (see link above)where she indicates that her daughter is the epitome of cool. I doubt he would tweet someone about her 2 year old child and say that he knows her, when he doesn't. That would be way to creepy and wouldn't make much sense.

Anonymous said...

But that doesn't mean they are a couple.

Doesn't mean they are not, either.
:-)

Anonymous said...

Jake and Austin not being together when they can = proof that they aren't a couple.

Anonymous said...

And more than definite proof that they aren't parents.

Anonymous said...

Doesn't mean they are not, either.
:-)


You forget that after being in Canada for months, then long promo work for PoP Jake made no effort to stay in LA where Austin was and left for MV to spend his summer. THAT means they are not a couple.

Two people who love each other and want to be together after long months apart don't spent time on different costs when they can easily be in the same city, where they both live.

Anonymous said...

From @Busyphilipps25: "Pretty much the epitome of cool." http://yfrog.com/ep6qnwj
Austin is responding to a tweet from Busy (see link above)where she indicates that her daughter is the epitome of cool.


Thanks. I didn't find anything out of the ordinary about Austin's tweet in the first place but this makes it clearer.

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