Thursday, 4 February 2010

Gay Celebrities Don’t Have To Come Out?

Celebrities like Michael Urie and Matt Bomer have been getting hammered recently for not being more vocal about their sexuality. Bomer, who was pictured kissing up on another man, defensively explained that he’s “completely happy and fulfilled in my personal life” and doesn’t give two shits that people think he’s gay. Urie, meanwhile, argued that he didn’t feel the need to declare his sexuality, a move that had this site’s owner saying Urie’s an “anti-activist,” because coming out’s “the most powerful and necessary action any LGBT person can make.” The Ugly Betty actor did, however, say that he’s dating a man, so he’s being criticized for not coming out enough. This debate makes me wonder: Should it be someone’s duty to declare his sexuality? We’re constantly coming out, so how often and when does it need to be done? Should people be required to come out and show the world a positive gay face?
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Activism, like gay people, comes in many forms. Coming out counts as an example, yes, but not coming out isn’t harmful. It would be nice if Urie, who plays one of television’s most hilarious gay characters, could own up to it, rather than relying on the “it could hurt my career” excuse and insisting that just because he’s with a man now, that doesn’t necessarily mean he’s “gay.” He’s queer. Fine, whatever. But Urie’s parsing and Bomer’s avoidance both fit into a Hollywood model, their approaches are not necessarily harmful. They’re weak and lamentable, yes, but in the long run not calamitous. Staying in the closet only hurts when it’s coupled with harmful action, like anti-gay legislation, hence the moral relativism of outing a politician.

While the “coming out can hurt a career” argument has grown a bit dated in the wake of Neil Patrick Harris, it can be evoked, as in the queer case of Anderson Cooper. It’s no big secret that Cooper’s dating a man. Some people, however, insist he should take the next step out of the closet. Kathy Griffin recently argued against outing him because he goes to third world countries that aren’t always hospitable to the gays. That’s a valid point, yes, and one that I have made in the past. Whether or not it’s right remains open to debate. It does, however, bring up another, far more pressing question: does being gay have to come first?
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There was a time when I definitely would have said that gay people, especially high-profile actors, should come out the closet. I still think that’s true: it’s always wonderful to have strong gay role models, like Neil Patrick Harris or Jane Lynch, and gay people today should constantly be aware of past and present struggles. And thank goodness the Proposition 8 and hate crime battles helped energize a new generation of activists. But as time goes on and I become a little older, though not necessarily wiser, I’m beginning to see that we all have to wear our sexuality in the way that suits us best. Being gay does not have to be the primary part of someone’s personality. In no way am I saying one should hide their gay ways – that’s just cowardly – and fighting for gay rights should be everyone’s concern, but there also comes a time when people need to focus on other parts of themselves, rather than the parts they use in bed.

Yes, actors and other celebrities have a responsibility to set a good example, and, in my opinion, should take advantage of their platform for progressive causes. But to say that celebrities have to come out forces them to make a decision they may not be comfortable with, and that isn’t fair. We may be disappointed that celebrities cop out and stay in the closet, but we should respect their decision, even if it means losing respect for the people themselves.

Source: AKA William

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Anonymous said...

Now that Heath is gone, Ryan is the best actor of his generation (the 30 year old and under crowd).

Joseph Gordon Lewitt is good too and it seems many have big hopes for James Franco. Apart from PoP, Jake has some interesting parts in Nailed and LAOD, maybe he'll be in good form and deliver good work like he used to. I hope.

Anonymous said...

I fear POP will end up being an embarrassment for Jake.

Anonymous said...

I fear POP will end up being an embarrassment for Jake.

I really hope that won't be the case. I'll be happy enough if it's like Mummy I.

Anonymous said...

I'll be happy enough if it's like Mummy I.

Everyone should be very happy if PoP is as good as Mummy I.

Anonymous said...

“American Beauty” opened the door for Mr. Bentley to many other opportunities, like talking to the director Gus Van Sant in 1999 about starring in “Brokeback Mountain” before Ang Lee was chosen to direct it. But when he wasn’t working, Mr. Bentley’s drug use escalated. In 2000 he won a lead role in “The Four Feathers,” which involved exhausting shoots in London and Africa. The movie was released to poor reviews in 2002, by which time Mr. Bentley was back in Los Angeles and his drug use was accelerating.
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“I had come back to L.A. for something, and I drank a whole bottle of Scotch, and I thought to myself, ‘I’m going to die in this hotel room with this bottle of Scotch,’ ” he said. “It was after that I told a friend for the first time: ‘I’m a drug addict, and an alcoholic, and I need help. I need help or I’m going to die.’ ”

Wes Bentley - Back From the Depths, Rebuilding a Career

Anonymous said...

I give Wes high marks for being one of the FEW of Heath's co-stars to come out (and he was reclusive at the time--probably because of his drug problems) and praise Heath following Heath's death. Remember--although quite a few directors came out to publicly mourn Heath's death--very few if any (Mel Gibson not included) of his co-stars did. And no, I'm not just referring to Jake. There was something very heroic in what Wes did considering Heath's peers did have the guts or wherewithal to do so.

Anonymous said...

typo--Heath's peers DIDN'T have the guts or wherewithal to do so.

Anonymous said...

Heath's peers DIDN'T have the guts or wherewithal to do so.

January 28, 2008

Ryan Gosling paid a special tribute to pal Heath Ledger at the Screen Actors Guild Awards in Los Angeles on Sunday--by wearing a special black ribbon on his lapel.

The actor's sister Mandy designed the subtle black bow for the Lars and the Real Girl star because she felt Ledger's death should be acknowledged on the red carpet. Gosling's sibling, who was his 'date' to the awards, says, "We just had to mark [that] something terrible has happened." And the actor himself used interest in his black ribbon to urge the media to leave those grieving Ledger's shock death last week to mourn in peace.

He said, "They [media] should leave all the people in his life alone. It's terrible." He wasn't the only one with Ledger on his mind--Best Actor winner Daniel Day-Lewis dedicated his award to the Brokeback Mountain star.

link

Anonymous said...

Thank you Ryan.

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Anonymous said...

Jake and Heath were good friends. Heath said so. Jake said so.

Anonymous said...

Heath and Johnny Depp were friends too. Zero paparazzi pictures.

Anonymous said...

Two years now and Jake still hasn’t acknowledged Heath’s death who moved on from BBM and Jake as soon as he could.

Are you insane? Heath chose him as godfather and Jake called him true friend in one of the last interviews before Heath passed. I don't think he lied at all.
Even if Jake didn't say a word, I doubt it's because either one of them moved on from the other.

Santa Monica said...

About to enter Jerry Bruckheimer's office. I hope nothing explodes.
about 3 hours ago

Jake Gyllenhaal is here to talk Prince of Persia, there's coffee, it's a sunny day in Santa Monica. #ilovemylife http://yfrog.com/4f5cirj
12 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/staciwilson
Entertainment reporter for Horror & SciFi.

Anonymous said...

Heath and Johnny Depp were friends too. Zero paparazzi pictures.

And there are zero private pap pictures of Heath with Terry Gilliam, or Wes Bentley etc. and we all know they were friends.

Anonymous said...

Jake Gyllenhaal is here to talk Prince of Persia, there's coffee, it's a sunny day in Santa Monica.

Probably talking about promotional work that will start in a couple of months.

Anonymous said...

"Heath chose him as godfather and Jake called him true friend in one of the last interviews before Heath passed."

Actors NEVER resort to PR stunts. Actors ALWAYS tell the truth. Right, gotcha!

Anonymous said...

Actors NEVER resort to PR stunts. Actors ALWAYS tell the truth. Right, gotcha!

Of course they do, but I don't think J & H faked friendship and affection. There was something genuine between them. Like when Oprah asked if Jake was jealous of the attention Heath got (there were rumors he was), Heath looked like he was on the verge of crying and Jake quickly assured him it's not true (Jake's eyes were literally popping out while telling him that). I think Heath was very sensitive and Jake knew that, he acted very careful and loving with him. Heath was very competent and talented, but also very fragile (like a journalist once described him).

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Anonymous said...

Heath would NEVER use his baby daughter for a PR stunt. Brokeback Mountain opened all doors for Heath - he didn't need PR stunts.

Anonymous said...

Heath would NEVER use his baby daughter for a PR stunt. Brokeback Mountain opened all doors for Heath - he didn't need PR stunts.

Agreed.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why people demanded a public statement about something personal. He owes us nothing. His loss (big or small) is his. I believe he was in pain. He looked like he was in pain. He is not responsible in making you feel better.

not a trolly said...

Why was my post deleted???

Anonymous said...

What I wanted to add to Jake's defense is that I strongly believe he sees his goddaughter, but he keeps it private. Just imagine you see pics of him with Michelle and Matilda. Probably rumors would start about him and Michelle. Hell, I even saw a fansite dedicated to the both of them. If we saw pics of them together, probably all hell would break loose. Just saying!

Anonymous said...

I strongly believe he sees his goddaughter, but he keeps it private.

ITA.

Anonymous said...

"I don't understand why people demanded a public statement about something personal."

But don’t you find it very odd that Jake still hasn’t talked about Heath publicly? That’s true friendship for you.

Anonymous said...

"I strongly believe he sees his goddaughter,"

And I strongly believe in Santa Claus.

Anonymous said...

"I strongly believe he sees his goddaughter,"

And I strongly believe in Santa Claus.


If he is her godfather (real, symblic or whatever), I think he would want to see her. Maybe Michelle is a vicious bitch who doesn't allow it?

Anonymous said...

Why wouldn't Jake visit Michelle and Matilda?

Anonymous said...

Why wouldn't Jake visit Michelle and Matilda?

I wonder that too. As I've mentioned maybe Michelle doesn't want it for reasons unknown. Maybe she looks like and angel, talks like and angel, but in reality she's the devil in disguise? Who knows?

Anonymous said...

an not and

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Anonymous said...

Maybe she looks like and angel, talks like and angel, but in reality she's the devil in disguise? Who knows?

Take a look at pictures and see how happy Matilda seems around Michelle and her friends.

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Anonymous said...

Michelle was left to raise her daughter alone, Jake's needs and desires are the last thing in her mind,IMO

Anonymous said...

Take a look at pictures and see how happy Matilda seems around Michelle and her friends.

I hope you are right and that she is a good mother. I admit it seems like it.

Anonymous said...

So anything else than Jake and Heath=bffs, Jake=bestest, most caring godfather in the world gets deleted. Okay, lala land it is then.

Anonymous said...

"I hope you are right and that she is a good mother. I admit it seems like it."

I'm not a deluded fan of her but, luckily, nothing indicates that she is not a good mother.

Anonymous said...

6:29 PM

Maybe you shouldn't tell people what they should do.

Anonymous said...

So anything else than Jake and Heath=bffs, Jake=bestest, most caring godfather in the world gets deleted. Okay, lala land it is then.

No one said they were best friends, both guys have childhood friends who are their bffs, but I do believe they were friends and that Jake is some sort of godfather. Does he see that kid? I don't know, but why wouldn't he? Unless he and Michelle had a falling out.

Anonymous said...

"I don't know, but why wouldn't he?"

Because he doesn't care enough to? Why is it so important for you that Jake see her? Matilda has a mother and a family to take care of her. She doesn't need Jake.

Anonymous said...

Unless he and Michelle had a falling out.

Possible, but not likely.

Anonymous said...

Because he doesn't care enough to?

Jake said he cares about kids in prison, but he wouldn't care about his goddaughter?

Anonymous said...

Matilda has a mother and a family to take care of her. She doesn't need Jake.

You can't have too many friends.

Anonymous said...

He didn’t bother with Heath, why would he bother with his daughter now? He’s not responsible for her.

Anonymous said...

She doesn't need Jake.

No, she doesn't. But it would be nice of him if he visited her. Heath's family and all his best friends live in Australia, so I doubt Matilda sees them often. That's why it would be nice of Heath's friends who don't live as far away to pay visits every once in a while. But it's their decision in the end. Michelle does have her mom, sister, that gay friend and Busy, the godmother, for support. At least we see them together often and read about sightings.

Anonymous said...

Jake said he cares about kids in prison, but he wouldn't care about his goddaughter?

Yes, but maybe the "kids" are over 18 y/o boys? ;)

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Anonymous said...

Odd body chemistry in the new Lakers pix. Very... umm... odd.

Anonymous said...

Heath and Jake were nothing more than friends during BBM. After that, they went their separate ways. Indulging this fantasy is as nutty as Reeke and J/Austin.

Jaustinites said...

Odd body chemistry in the new Lakers pix. Very... umm... odd.

There is no odd body chemistry. If Austin was there, there would be chemistry and ST, but there's nothing like that between Jake and blond guy. Maybe between Chris and bond guy, but NOT between Jake and him. No, no, no.

Anonymous said...

Jake looks distant and uninterested with the blond guy, look at all the pictures. If you think that’s chemistry you need to get out more.

Anonymous said...

The blonde guy had his arm partially around Jake, and Chris was leaning into Jake. The body chemistry was very revealing. And hot.

You don't need Austin to pull homo pheromones out of JG. Chris does it all the time. Ahem.

Sorry, Ted.

Anonymous said...

Heath and Jake were nothing more than friends during BBM. After that, they went their separate ways. Indulging this fantasy is as nutty as Reeke and J/Austin.

Who said they were more than friends? I'm sorry, but Heath kept his friends. He wasn't the type to form friendships and then abandon them. True, he seemed fickle with woman, he was a playboy, but he was a good friend and co-worker for sure. I tend to believe Heath and Jake, who both said they were friends even after promo time was over. As for Austin and Jake. Why wouldn't they still be friends? I think they are. Are they lovers too? I have no clue. Reeke I don't even want to talk about, else I'll get sick.

Anonymous said...

Heath and Jake were nothing more than friends during BBM. After that, they went their separate ways.

We should assume that Jake and Heath lied, and that you know the real truth. Yeah, right.

Anonymous said...

"I'm sorry, but Heath kept his friends. He wasn't the type to form friendships and then abandon them."

I'm sorry, did you know Heath personally? Face it, it's a lot more probable they didn't stay friends after BBM than the other way around.

Anonymous said...

One more time - Heath and Jake said that they are friends. They said that after BBMt.

Anonymous said...

Jake looks distant and uninterested with the blond guy, look at all the pictures. If you think that’s chemistry you need to get out more.

Again, we have to agree to disagree, because I see chemistry.

Anonymous said...

"One more time - Heath and Jake said that they are friends. They said that after BBMt."

Actors lie sometimes. Jake said he is straight and we know how true that is.

Anonymous said...

Actors lie sometimes. Jake said he is straight and we know how true that is.

Ok, then give me an explanation, why they stopped being friends after BBM? They clearly were very fond of each other (I mean, you can't deny that) during promo time and filming. Ang Lee even mentioned he saw private feelings during the love and wrestling scenes and that he was moved by them interacting with each other off screen. They must have had a really good reason to break off the friendship.

Anonymous said...

Being "straight" is important for Jake's career. Jake has nothing to gain by lying about his friendship with Heath.

Anonymous said...

Jake: Heath, I'll quit our friendship!

Heath: Ok!

Anonymous said...

But don’t you find it very odd that Jake still hasn’t talked about Heath publicly? That’s true friendship for you.


No. I don't discuss my pain in public (which is smaller than his) so why should he. He keeps most things private and I respect that.

I am tired of people (famous and not famous) making everything in their lives public. I ain't sharing mine so I respect those who keep it to themselves.

Anonymous said...

IHJ
Italian Vanity fair interview

COVER PAGE: Jake Gyllenhaal, the Cowboy is alone now. “Brokeback Mountain has given me the most important experience of my career, and a friend indeed”. His name was Heath Ledger, and he isn’t here anymore.

INSIDE PIC: “Fame is dangerous. I have seen so many actors gone awry. And I know that when you go through bad moments, those who help you are those who really love you.” This is what Jake Gyllenhaal said 3 months ago. Can you imagine how he feels now that his best friend Heath Ledger, isn’t here anymore? “WHEN SUCCESS BURNS YOU DOWN”

PAGE 78
New Mexico, January 2008
Sitting on the director’s chair, Jake Gyllenhaal’s staring at nothing. He’s there, but he’s not really there. On Tuesday 22nd , when he learnt about his friend Heath Ledger found dead in NY, he had disappeared from the set of Brothers. He came back after 2 days, shot his scenes, but his mind was faraway. To protect him from paps and nosey people, Director Jim Sheridan has doubled surveillance. “I’ve got a duty”, “I have to take care of Matilda”: these are the few sentences that his collegues could pull out of him. “Brokeback Mountain” sealed the friendship between him and Ledger, and let arise the love between Ledger and Michelle Williams. From their love was born Matilda, 2 years ago, Heath wanted Jake to be her godfather, Jake said he was “incredibly honoured”. Now that little girl is the last trace of that friend who has meant so much to him.

New Mexico, December 2007
Brothers is a movie about the war in Afghanistan. They’re shooting a scene in jail, actors have to display their homesickness. Every prisoner has put a pic of his wife or girlfriend on the wall. Jake picks a pic from his wallet and adds it to the others. Curious, his colleagues come close to the wall, until they understand that it’s a joke: the pic was taken on the set of BBM, it’s him with Heath Ledger. Jake bursts into laughter.

Los Angeles, October 2007
“Ours has been a blind date. In the movie we had to play the part of two lovers, but we had never exchanged more than a couple of words, we had no idea if we would have been fine together. But BBM worked because we found that “feeling”. In the story, Jack and Ennis don’t know each other, and fall in love slowly and in the same way we have slowly liked each other. And have become friends. Friends indeed: I think you can see this in the movie”
Din don. Three months before Heath Ledger’s lonely death. Jake Gyllenhaal, who can’t imagine what will happen, is telling me how much he loves him.
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Anonymous said...

"Ok, then give me an explanation, why they stopped being friends after BBM?"

They just went their separate ways, different personalities, friends, coasts et al. I don’t think they got close enough during BBM to keep the friendship alive afterwards. Heath was too busy with Michelle and Jake with his life.

Anonymous said...

Heath was too busy with Michelle and Jake with his life.

Busy with Michelle? Sorry, but lol. He was creating "The Masses" at the time and there were rumors he didn't spend much time with her at all, not even Valentine's Day 2007. He was seen out with guy- and girl friends instead. Probably one of the problems was that he enjoyed spending time with friends more than with her. And unofficially they were done long before Sept. 2007.

Anonymous said...

I see. Jake managed to stay friends, for example, with Matthew Katz-Frost all this years, he has time for his friends. Heath had a lot of friends too, but Jake and Heath just couldn't find time for each other.

Anonymous said...

Jake Gyllenhaal, who can’t imagine what will happen, is telling me how much he loves him.

Jake probably lied about that too. ;)

Anonymous said...

“I’ve got a duty”, “I have to take care of Matilda”: these are the few sentences that his collegues could pull out of him.

*cough*

Anonymous said...

LOL

Anonymous said...

I was a gay cowboy before it was cool.

POP prophecy? said...

reporter for Horror & SciFi

Whut?!

Jerry said...

*Fuck!*

Anonymous said...

LOL Jake's giving POP interviews to Horror film reporters.

Anonymous said...

Posted on WDW

And continuing the music theme, on Friday 19 February, a video for the new single by Vampire Weekend will premiere on Channel 4 in the UK and, we're assured, it features a Jake Gyllenhaal cameo!

'Exclusive first play of Vampire Weekend's new single Giving Up the Gun, which features cameos from Jake Gyllenhaal and Joe Jonas in the video.' It plays at 22:50 on Rude Tube. I must admit to being intrigued and not a little perplexed. So that's one to watch. Thanks to Karen for the heads up!

http://www.channel4.com/tv-listings/daily/2010/02/19

Anonymous said...

Jake Gyllenhaal and Joe Jonas! Wow!

Anonymous said...

Is POP a Sci Fi movie?

Definition of Sci Fi: Science fiction is a genre of fiction. It differs from fantasy in that, within the context of the story, its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature (Wiki)

Hmmm.... its imaginary elements are largely possible within scientifically established or scientifically postulated laws of nature ~let's see.. the magic dagger, the flying swirling sand going thru time..nope. POP isn't Sci Fi.

Sounds more like horror.

Anonymous said...

Methinks our Jake is a pop-rock-rap star wannabe.

Anonymous said...

features cameos from Jake Gyllenhaal and Joe Jonas in the video.' It plays at 22:50 on Rude Tube

:)

Anonymous said...

Horror & Sci-Fi Magazine is a perfect magazine for a POP interview. Horror fits the horrifically bad and campy movie that POP seems like it's going to be and Sci-Fi for the fiction that Disney and Bruckheimer are trying to push that POP is a great movie bordering on masterpiece and should have a sequel. Of course the interview will be in Bruckheimer's office, somebody has to muzzle and edit what Jake says.

Anonymous said...

"Heath was too busy with Michelle and Jake with his life."

And Heath was running away from the gay rumors that stuck to Jake like lint.

Atticus said...

And people think I'm the one who needs a muzzle!

Anonymous said...

Isn't Joe Jonas the one rumored to be gay>

Anonymous said...

Joe Jonas gay?

Atticus said...

Grampa Stephen and Daddy Jake - those are the two in the G family that need leashes and muzzles. Getting them nootered wouldn't be a bad idea either.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I have never seen so may deleted comments before. Got here too late to see any of them, so no clue what was being said.

As to Jake at Lakers1 with Austin, I loved whoever called it the f--k me look, cause that is so true. Jake had a similar look when they caught the guys playing on set during TDAT. Straight guys do not flirt with each other, under any circumstances. And at Lakers1, almost his whole body was leaning on Austin, not just the legs touching. And the relaxed smile, the comfortableness, the joy evident on Jake's face while doing so was beautiful. A man in love.

Anonymous said...

^^ 1:47, ITA. Also what I noticed is their hands; either clutching at their own body (leg, knee) or held tightly together. They aren't mad at each other - it's a very deliberate behavior to remind oneself not to unconsciously touch the other person. Because as we all know that when we are attracted to someone, we can't help but get inside their personal space and touch them. In the Lakers pics Jake and Austin look they were almost at the point of having to strap their hands to the seats to keep from touching each other.

Anonymous said...

And Heath was running away from the gay rumors that stuck to Jake like lint.

Oh poor Jake, there's nothing worse than gay rumors.

Didn't some of you claim the rumors started pre BBM, during Donnie Darko even?

Also the Ted C. started the rumors as you all know.

Anonymous said...

It's always interesting to notice that his fans (even) even gay fans are pissed that Jake got most of the gay rumors and not Heath. As if this hurt his career.
Heath run away from gay rumors? Maybe he really fell for Michelle. She is beautiful, talented, intelligent and kind hearted. I personally think Jake "liked" her too. I sure noticed his admiring looks towards her when they attended Oprah's show. They showed a pic of Michelle in a purple dress she wore at the Globes and Jake couldn't take his eyes off of her.

Anonymous said...

Well there is this report from a guy who posted in Meet the famous that Jake and Michelle used to date as teenagers and that Jake picked her up periodically from the play she did, Killer Joe. Why would he make this up?

Anonymous said...

Jake/Michelle delusional poster again? LOL

Anonymous said...

It’s amazing the homophobia and desperation to make Jake straight. There are people who will spin that he dated or is dating or that he is attracted to any woman as long as it makes him straight or bi. How about Betty White or Susan Boyle for Jake?

Also, having sex with women doesn't necessarily make a gay man bisexual or straight. Just closeted or desperate.

Anonymous said...

^And there are other people who will spin Jake is into any guy on earth in their desperation to discredit the Austin connection.

Anonymous said...

It's amazing the heterophobia and desperation to make Jake gay. There are people who will spin that he's dating or has dated or is attracted to any man as long as it makes him look gay. How about Abe Vigoda or Tony Bennet.

I fixed that for you, 7:25. :-)

Anonymous said...

Also, having sex with women doesn't necessarily make a gay man bisexual or straight. Just closeted or desperate.

You almost sound heterophobic. Nothing is wrong or desperate with having sex with a woman. The biggest sexual organ that humans have, is between their ears. Sexuality can be complicated. Many times someone is attracted to the person; the gender doesn't matter.

Anonymous said...

I don't really believe Jake & Michelle have dated , but it is very weird that they never mentioned that they knew each other before making the movie...

Anonymous said...

^Of course that there are bisexual men and sexuality is complicated, but what I meant is this: if a gay man has sex with a woman, it doesn't automatically make him straight or bisexual.

Anonymous said...

I don't really believe Jake & Michelle have dated , but it is very weird that they never mentioned that they knew each other before making the movie...

You need to give it up, you’re not fooling anyone.

Anonymous said...

How many times of sex with a woman; once or a few times to try it? And when; at which time of his life?

Anonymous said...

if a gay man has sex with a woman, it doesn't automatically make him straight or bisexual.

True but a few things have to be considered, like: How many times of sex with a woman; once or a few times to try it? And when; at which time of his life?

Anonymous said...

Oh and with who; someone he loved?

Anonymous said...

OT but LOL. I was looking for add-ons to my browser, going thru the appearance & tabs section and a programmer who wrote one for finding and organizing them named their application TabHunter. Gah!

Anonymous said...

OT Breaking news: In LA Alec Baldwin has been rushed to the hospital after collapsing.

Anonymous said...

Opps it was in NY.

Anonymous said...

Poor Alec...but his collapsing was just a matter of time.

Anonymous said...

And gravity.

Anonymous said...

It's always interesting to notice that his fans (even) even gay fans are pissed that Jake got most of the gay rumors and not Heath.

Only babblers are pissed off by JiG and don't like Heath enough to post bullshit about Heath running away from gay rumors.

Anonymous said...

Alec Baldwin has been rushed to the hospital after collapsing

He's OK.

People magazine

Anonymous said...

From The Awful Truth by Ted Casablanca;

Dear Ted:
Don't you think it's great to see Jake Gyllenhaal again hanging out with his real friends and having a genuinely good time, instead of fauxmancing for the cameras in staged photo ops? I hope it means that tabloid-product Jake is a thing of the past and he'll now focus on acting only on screen and remain true to his charming self in his personal life. What do you think?
—Marisa

Dear Team Jake:
I totally prefer the un-Reese-attached Jake myself.

Dear Ted:
In his song "Blame it", Jamie Foxx sings, "blame it on the Goose, Got you feeling loose." Is he giving us a hint that he is Toothy's man Grey Goose?
—Julia

Dear Interpreter:
Jamie Foxx is talking about another goose—the alcoholic kind.

Anonymous said...

Team Jake! :)

Anonymous said...

Having sex with a woman, even on a regular basis, does not make a man bi. Yes there are bisexual men, but the world is full of men that are gay who are or were married to women for years, decades even. Just look at the Out Spotlight in OMG for one example, that football player talks about that very issue.

Perez was his first! said...

The rocker [John Mayer] also shot down reports that he's been involved sexually with men.

"The only man I've kissed is Perez Hilton. It was New Year's Eve and I decided to go out and destroy myself. I was dating Jessica at the time, and I remember seeing Perez Hilton flitting about this club and acting as though he had just invented homosexuality. All of a sudden I thought, I can outgay this guy right now," he reveled. "I grabbed him and gave him the dirtiest, tongue-iest kiss I have ever put on anybody – almost as if I hated f***. I don't think my mouth was even touching when I was tongue kissing him, that's how disgusting this kiss was. I'm a little ashamed. I think it lasted about half a minute. I really think it went on too long."

John Mayer

Ted said...

The Jake and Goose question come one after the other in today's awful truth. There is also this one:

Dear Ted:
How did you start writing your B.V.? Did you just wake up one day and decided to tease us? Also when is Toothy Tile going to come out?! The suspense is killing me! Love ya!
—Just Waiting

Dear History Lesson:
I actually think Toothy just might come out before all my hair turns gray.

Anonymous said...

I actually think Toothy just might come out before all my hair turns gray.

Teaser!

OMG post on Roy Simmons said...

The article wove the difficulty of being black and gay--the “Down Low” concept where black men live a deeply closeted gay or bisexual life. And delving into the familiar territory of how hard it is to be a gay professional athlete. "The N.F.L. has a reputation," Simmons said, "and it's not even a verbal thing--it's just known. You are gladiators; you are male; you kick butt." Noting that he had significant relationships with women and daughter with his high school sweetheart, Simmons was asked if he saw himself as bisexual or gay? His response was I'm gay [laughs]. I'm a gay black man in America.

Neil Patrick Harris said...

Duh!

no OTH filming? said...

Bad_Boyfriend: Saw Sophia Bush having coffee at The Grove with two dudes. I was freaking out the whole time: "OMG, it's Rachel Bilson! It's Rachel Bilson!"
3:04 PM Feb 9th

Location Los Angeles/Mexico City

Anonymous said...

I don't get the reference to Bilson, am I missing something?

Anonymous said...

I bet with a show like OTH they try and film all of a character's scenes all together so that actors can more easily go home if they don't live in Wilmington full-time.

Anonymous said...

I think Bad_Boyfriend mistook Sophia for Rachel Bilson and he was with someone who recognized Sophia.

tidbit said...

Posted on OMG

Drew Barrymore likes Chuckles, Starbursts, Twizzlers. Elizabeth Hurley, Gummi Bears. Mel Brooks, Tootsie Rolls. Winona Ryder, Eskimo Pies. Sharon Stone, brownies. Ron Howard, Hershey bars.

Michelle Pfeiffer: Only not-blue M&M's. Lawyer David Boies? Only orange M&M's.

Tina Turner, chocolate milk. G. Clooney, chocolate cake. Ashley Judd, chocolate pudding. Ricki Lake, chocolate pecan pie. Nicole Kidman, chocolate chip cookies. Cindy Crawford, hot chocolate with marshmallows. Jake Gyllenhaal makes his own chocolate bread. Alanis Morissette, Nesquik chocolate milk powder over pancakes. Melanie Griffith? Whatever macadamia and peanut butter mini-turnovers are.

Cindy Adams

Logan Miller said...

Guy's i'm working with Jake Gyllenhaal today for some Disney Promo's im super excited Donnie Darko and Zodiac are some of my favorite movies
3 minutes ago

twitter.com/Loganyeah785

Logan Miller said...

everyone following @RealLoganMiller that is a FAKE ACCOUNT...This is my real account people...I love how the fake account has more followers
10:15 PM Jan 31st

This is to prove this is my real twitter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn7ld-Zvyb4
2:16 PM Feb 1st

Anonymous said...

Logan Miller is this kid?! He's in the TV series "I'm in the Band", produced by a Disney company.

Anonymous said...

Toothy does seem to be relaxing lately. Maybe he will surprise us all and come out. After POP of course.

long but interesting article said...

He was a world-renowned industrialist whose secret life as a gay man led to his downfall. Lord Browne, former ceo of British Petroleum, talks about the day he was outed, losing his job and what it was like living a lie.
'I'm much happier now than I’ve ever been'

- I wonder whether his parents, at least, had not guessed about his sexuality. He says that his father probably suspected: “I mean, I had a few girlfriends but he must have seen straight through that and I think my mother probably didn’t want to see it. Did I want to tell her? I didn’t know how to get round to it.” He describes his mother as his “number one supporter and conversationalist."

- I wonder how on earth he coped with the homophobic jokes and chatter in BP; was it like a thousand cuts? “You somehow got used to managing it. You wouldn’t cause a ripple.” Did you ever join in the banter? “No, I couldn’t quite bring myself to that point. It was remarkable how you could become part of the background. Then, of course, you wouldn’t notice what you were doing. After a period of time, you went to work and people would say, ‘When are you getting married?’ And you would look mysterious so people would say, ‘He must have a secret girlfriend.’”

- Was he ever tempted to marry just to keep up a front? “I love the company of women but I could never bring myself to… That would be extreme. I mean, I was doing a lot of dissembling but that’s beyond it, I think, because there are only two people in a room in a relationship. Again, I never thought it would be possible.” But you do know people who have done that? “I know lots of people who have done that, now.”

RIP said...

British fashion designer Alexander McQueen has been found dead after taking his own life. The 40-year-old committed suicide just days after the death of his beloved mother, Joyce, last Tuesday.

link

Anonymous said...

Having sex with a woman, even on a regular basis, does not make a man bi.

So a heterosexual man having sex with another man, even on a regular basis, does not make him bi/gay either?

Alexander McQueen said...

2002

IT NEVER occured to Alexander McQueen to lie about his sexuality.

"Never," he tells the Face. "I came out really young. I was never in [the closet]. I was sure of myself and my sexuality and I've got nothing to hide. I went straight from my mother's womb onto the gay parade." For his next project, the 32-year-old designer reveals that he is hoping to have a child. "I deserve one," he says, "because I've got a lot of love to give."

Anonymous said...

What are you, 14? Do you really not comprehend what it means to be bisexual or gay in this society? It doesn't work that way; there is no stigma to being straight, so a straight man is not going to have sex with another man on regular basis.

Anonymous said...

So a heterosexual man having sex with another man, even on a regular basis, does not make him bi/gay either?

Staying in the CLOSET is the reason for gay men to have sex with women. Read what gay and closeted men have to say about it.

Anonymous said...

He says that his father probably suspected: “I mean, I had a few girlfriends but he must have seen straight through that and I think my mother probably didn’t want to see it. Did I want to tell her? I didn’t know how to get round to it.”

So sad.

Anonymous said...

11:42, since you seem to get so overwrought when people use another analogy, why don't you share some of your own experiences with being bi/gay but having to stay in the closet in this society. Thanks in advance

Anonymous said...

11:52 AM, please stop playing stupid.

Anonymous said...

Guy's i'm working with Jake Gyllenhaal today for some Disney Promo's im super excited Donnie Darko and Zodiac are some of my favorite movies

Posted on OMG by Special K

Disney Channel uses some of their actors to do a little preview clip promo called Movie Surfers where they talk to the stars and show clips.

new pic said...

CASUAL CHIC
A scruffy Jake Gyllenhaal – whose movie, Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time hits theaters in May – heads to his car while out and about in Venice, Calif., Wednesday.

People.com

Anonymous said...

Pinky ring is back!

babbler said...

Damn!

Anonymous said...

11:42 #2, cut the crap. A predominately gay man, having occasional/regular sex with a woman, isn't bi but a predominately straight man, having occasional/regular sex with a man isn't bi either?! You (and many others) are giving the categories a double standard. If one statement is true, the other is true as well.

Same goes with the "born that way" statement made over the years. If people are born gay and cannot be changed, then people are born straight and cannot be changed.

Don't get me wrong, I love my gays. But most of them have the hardest time accepting that not everyone is gay or can be turned gay. The thinking that a gay man who has occasional sex with a woman is still gay, while a straight man who has occasional sex with a man is gay, is illogical and irrational. One sexual preference group does not get a different set of categorical operating rules than the other.

Anonymous said...

matching wedding ring :)

Anonymous said...

What does the pinky ring signify, exactly?
It is not similar to Austin's pinky ring is it,the one with the turqouise stone?

Anonymous said...

The thinking that a gay man who has occasional sex with a woman is still gay, while a straight man who has occasional sex with a man is gay, is illogical and irrational.

Straight men don't have occasional sex with men and no one said anything about "straight man who has occasional sex with a man is gay". Some CLOSETED gay men have sex with women - because they are in the closet.

Anonymous said...

Is the pinky ring the same one the beard reportedly borrowed from him and wore?

pinky ring said...

The pinky ring was a fashionable jewelry accessory for male homosexuals during the 1950s through the 1970s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_symbols

Anonymous said...

Is the pinky ring the same one the beard reportedly borrowed from him and wore?

LOL, that was babbler fiction.

Anonymous said...

Straight men don't have occasional sex with men

Gay men don't have occasional sex with women.


and no one said anything about "straight man who has occasional sex with a man is gay".

My point is that the general (and flawed) thinking is that any man who has sex with a man, no matter how rare the occasion, is always thought of as being primarily gay.

Anonymous said...

My point is that the general (and flawed) thinking is that any man who has sex with a man, no matter how rare the occasion, is always thought of as being primarily gay.

Your point is ignoring the fact that gay men have sex with women because they want to hide their gayness, want to be accepted by the society, want kids, want their kids to have "normal" family, want to fit with their colleagues, ... want what straight people get for granted.

Anonymous said...

12:38 sorry but you're full of shit.

Anonymous said...

My point is that the general (and flawed) thinking is that any man who has sex with a man, no matter how rare the occasion, is always thought of as being primarily gay.

Straight men don't have sex with other men. A lot of bi men are indeed gay, but I'm sure no one can say what percentage.

The Gays said...

Everyone is GAAAYYYYYY!!!!

12:38 PM said...

12:40 PM, lol, it's not my fault that you're wrong.

Anonymous said...

12:41 PM #2

No more hiding? I knew someone is trolling with that "straight man who has occasional sex with a man" joke.

Anonymous said...

"Straight men don't have sex with other men."

Gay men don't have sex with women. LOL why is everyone so fucking afraid of admitting they're bisexual?

Anonymous said...

It does look like a matching wedding band, and not the pinky ring with the stone in it. The one we've seen under Jake's shirt.

Anonymous said...

Gay men don't have sex with women.

Why do you keep on posting total bullshit?

"The N.F.L. has a reputation," Simmons said, "and it's not even a verbal thing--it's just known. You are gladiators; you are male; you kick butt." Noting that he had significant relationships with women and daughter with his high school sweetheart, Simmons was asked if he saw himself as bisexual or gay? His response was I'm gay [laughs]. I'm a gay black man in America.

Anonymous said...

C'mon IHJ, hurry the fuck up with your HQs!

Anonymous said...

It does look like a matching wedding band, and not the pinky ring with the stone in it. The one we've seen under Jake's shirt.

But wasn't that ring bigger?

Anonymous said...

12:48, he is wrong. If he is having sex with women and men, he is bisexual, not gay.

Anonymous said...

12:50 PM #2, you are clueless and unaware of your ignorance.

Anonymous said...

If a man has sex with both men and women, yet states that he is gay, he is in essence, discarding the value of women in society, i.e. "they don't count."

prairiegirl said...

Man, you guys have so many topics going these past couple of days, my head is spinning like a top. I can't keep up.

And that trolling yesterday. Geesh! lol. That was entertaining even though I didn't see any of the comments before they were deleted.

It's amazing that Jake being out & about like his pre-Reeke days has some people so uptight and bothered. It should be a time for rejoicing! Bit by bit, Jake is un-checking alot of items from the list of no-no's given to him by Reeke Headquarters. I think it's awesome.

You guys have a good day. Don't need to worry about you all - you handle the trolling very well.

Anonymous said...

12:50 PM #2, you are clueless and unaware of your ignorance.

Because I don't agree with you and your skewed and biased categorical definitions, I'm clueless and ignorant?! LOL. You really need to grow up.

Anonymous said...

1:01 PM,

yes, clueless, ignorant and/or trolling. You don't get to decide who is gay or bi for other people - Roy Simmons is gay, heterosexual sex couldn't change that.

Anonymous said...

I blew up the pic 400x and the pinky ring looks wide and fitted. Also looks shiny and smooth gold. And he's wearing it on his left hand..I wonder if it's the same one that was under his shirt (resized or not) or a new ring. It's interesting that it's on the left hand. I like it! If this is baby steps for Jake, good.

Anonymous said...

Saying someone is not gay because they had sex with women is like saying that someone who was raped really enjoyed it.

Anonymous said...

^I should clarify, saying that about someone who is gay, particularly someone who self-identifies as gay.

Anonymous said...

It does look like a matching wedding band, and not the pinky ring with the stone in it. The one we've seen under Jake's shirt.

under Jake's shirt

Gay Logic said...

Roy Simmons is gay, heterosexual sex couldn't change that.

Homosexuals + straight sex = Gay

Heterosexuals + gay sex = Gay

Gay Logic said...

Homosexuals = born that way, cannot be changed

Heterosexuals = a choice, can be converted to gay

Anonymous said...

Heterosexuals + gay sex = Gay
Heterosexuals = a choice, can be converted to gay


Hello, that is your shit, only YOU said that! I'm sure that silly fangirl like you know more about homosexuality and gay closet than gays. lol

Anonymous said...

12:16: IHJ has had the pics up since late/last night/early this morning. UV over at GB made a note of the pics and the ring: new/old is back and seemed pleased.

That's a pinky ring, most wedding/commitment rings aren'r unless requested. If this is fitted then it's meant to be a pinky ring. He used to wear them a lot and then stopped in late '05.

That would include a silver band which may have been the committment ring when he was with Kiki, he wore it on his right hand finger and 2 gold bands that seemed to be locked together on his pinky and the gold pinky ring with the black diamond that was an engagement ring to himself.

His mother bought him a gold band with some Latin written on the inside that he used to wear too.

Anonymous said...

12:16: IHJ has had the pics up since late/last night/early this morning

Still not in the IHJ gallery.

Anonymous said...

That would include a silver band which may have been the committment ring when he was with Kiki

Kiki and a committment ring? LMAO

Gay Logic said...

Don't get me wrong, I am a fighter for gay rights. But gays have to understand that they have to apply the same parameters of the definitions to the heteros as they do their own. One side doesn't get a wider field range than the other.

Anonymous said...

Hello, that is your shit, only YOU said that! I'm sure that silly fangirl like you know more about homosexuality and gay closet than gays. lol

Still can't accept the truth, huh? Well that's your problem. Have a nice day.

Anonymous said...

Why are you laughing? He and kik spoke and showed off their commitment rings when they were dating. I pointed out the silver band that he used to wear as being the possible ring (I never saw it) and thought that was the ring since it wasn't a pinky ring, he was wearing it on his right finger.

Geez, if you were a longtinme fan you must know that they exchanged rings and pendants as well. What;s the matter? Pissed that he didn't give you a ring?


He used to wear all types of jewlery and then stopped in '06 I think.

Can't tell if that's new or it's one of his old pinky rings.

Anonymous said...

"IHJ gallery"

Which one? There's the media.com where all the pics are, and the forum gallery page/thread where sometimes pics are posted before they go to the media.com section.

Anonymous said...

1:28: It's been on the Eye candy thread since last night. Stephanie said that they are from an agency that doesn't like fan sites posting pics on their sites and they have complained. So she decided to not put them in the gallery and request that no one else post them on their sites. he's afraid that they will find out and have them pulled.

One of the pics did show up on People but they make no mention of Peter who was with him.

Anonymous said...

That is a gold wedding ring and it matches Austin's.

Expect lots of trolling ;)

Anonymous said...

Why are you laughing? He and kik spoke and showed off their commitment rings when they were dating.

The idea of Jake, Kiki and commitment rings is laughable. You really shouldn't believe all that PR shit.

new pics in IHJ community said...

Actor Jake Gyllenhaal gets a big hug from his brother in law actor Peter Sarsgaard as the two say goodbye after meeting up for a chat in Venice,Ca. 2.10.10

Stephanie aka Twilight: Hi everyone! I know I don't normally ask this of you all .. but with this particular set of photos, I am. Please don't repost these photos anywhere else. Thank you!

[someone asked why]

Because we've been asked to remove exclusives from this particular agency a couple times in the past and I don't want the site to get in trouble (again).

As I said before, I don't ask this often. So if people can't respect the few times I ask for something not to be reposted outside this forum, I won't share the photos at all.


If you want to see pics: Out with Peter in Venice

Anonymous said...

Ha, so UV was tripping all over herself to put up new photos even thought Stephanie asked that people not do that. What an idiot. And of course she wanted to be first and set the tone over at GB as to how babblers should react to the ring.

I don't know who is dumber, UV or the babblers who fall for it.

Anonymous said...

Maybe Toothy really will come out before Ted turns gray. Ted's what, about 50?

new pics in IHJ community said...

Also another post from Stephanie aka Twilight:

You're right, this is the first time I've asked .. but after being contacted by them 3 or 4 times in the past few months, I'm starting to sense a trend with exclusive photos ..

(Yeah, I know what you're saying about sites like JJ. But I can almost guarantee these won't end up there. When they say exclusive, that means no blogs either. lol)

Don't worry .. my comment wasn't directed at you specifically! I'm just letting everyone know that if I can't post them (quietly) here on the forum, I won't be able to post them at all. I just don't feel comfortable adding their photos to the gallery right now .. because I'm 99% sure we'll be asked to remove them a few hours later. So please enjoy certain photos like these privately, at least for the time being.

Anonymous said...

And of course she wanted to be first and set the tone over at GB as to how babblers should react to the ring.

What did UV say about the ring?

Anonymous said...

1:58: I don't know. I think it may have been her way of alerting everyone of the pics instead of linking them. You know how hardheaded some adults are, I can see someone trying to post them even though she said don't. That way she can say that GB never evn linked them in the comment section.

Anonymous said...

Expect lots of trolling

It's 11:00 am here, is it too early to start drinking?

Anonymous said...

I looked at the pinky ring and it looks flat, not slightly rounded like the one he was wearing inder his shirt.

Anonymous said...

Too early? Never!

Anonymous said...

Ha, so UV was tripping all over herself to put up new photos

LOL she's on new pics of Jake like a fly on shit. (sorry Jake for that analogy!) Does she ever sleep, go out, do anything except trawl (and troll) for Jake?

Anonymous said...

About to enter Jerry Bruckheimer's office. I hope nothing explodes.

LOL.

Anonymous said...

LOL she's on new pics of Jake like a fly on shit.

I bet UV can't wait for Jake and Austin pictures! lol

Logan Miller said...

Jake Gyllenhaal was so cool and so chill, we joked around and had a great time, you'll see the Promo's sooon!
3 minutes ago

http://twitter.com/Loganyeah785

whozat said...

Too early? Never!

*hic* bud Oshifer I's goth shermisasion froom too zheroo niney niney niney ta schart drunking *hic*

Jake said...

Hey Logan wanna hang out?

Logan said...

YES!

Anonymous said...

Jake, please note that Logan will be 18 on February 18!

Anonymous said...

The kid is 16 for Christs sake! ;)

Anonymous said...

One or two rings? side-by-side

Anonymous said...

I think it may have been her way of alerting everyone of the pics instead of linking them.


From GB:
UltraViolet said...
Stephanie posted new Jake pics on the IHJ forum. And I accidentally posted them until I realized she asked us not to repost anywhere.


^^LOL "accidentally posted them" my ass. Steph's request was in the first post in the thread, before any pics were posted.

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