Saturday, 2 May 2009

Stephen Fry: Dearest absurd child

Just who was the young, arrogant and confused man to whom Stephen Fry recently felt compelled to write a long and heartfelt letter? Himself, 35 years ago.

Oh, lord love you, Stephen. How I admire your arrogance and rage and misery. How pure and righteous they are and how passionately storm-drenched was your adolescence. How filled with true feeling, fury, despair, joy, anxiety, shame, pride and above all, supremely above all, how overpowered it was by love. My eyes fill with tears just to think of you. Of me. Tears splash on to my keyboard now. I am perhaps happier now than I have ever been and yet I cannot but recognise that I would trade all that I am to be you, the eternally unhappy, nervous, wild, wondering and despairing 16-year-old Stephen: angry, angst-ridden and awkward but alive. Because you know how to feel, and knowing how to feel is more important than how you feel. Deadness of soul is the only unpardonable crime, and if there is one thing happiness can do it is mask deadness of soul.

I finally know now, as I easily knew then, that the most important thing is love. It doesn't matter in the slightest whether that love is for someone of your own sex or not. Gay issues are important and I shall come to them in a moment, but they shrivel like a salted snail when compared to the towering question of love. Gay people sometimes believe (to this very day, would you credit it, young Stephen?) that the preponderance of obstacles and terrors they encounter in their lives and relationships is intimately connected with the fact of their being gay. As it happens at least 90% of their problems are to do with love and love alone: the lack of it, the denial of it, the inequality of it, the missed reciprocity in it, the horrors and heartaches of it. Love cold, love hot, love fresh, love stale, love scorned, love missed, love denied, love betrayed ... the great joke of sexuality is that these problems bedevil straight people just as much as gay. The 10% of extra suffering and complexity that uniquely confronts the gay person is certainly not incidental or trifling, but it must be understood that love comes first. This is tough for straight people to work out.

Straight people are encouraged by culture and society to believe that their sexual impulses are the norm, and therefore when their affairs of the heart and loins go wrong (as they certainly will), when they are flummoxed, distraught and defeated by love, they are forced to believe that it must be their fault. We gay people at least have the advantage of being brought up to expect the world of love to be imponderably and unmanageably difficult, for we are perverted freaks and sick aberrations of nature. They - poor normal lambs - naturally find it harder to understand why, in Lysander's words, "the course of true love never did run smooth".

You would little believe that I can say to you now across the gap of 35 years that we are the blessed ones. The people of Britain are happy (or not) because of Tolpuddle Martyrs, Chartists, infantry regiments, any number of ancestors who made the world more comfortable for them. And we, gay people, are happy now (or not) in large part thanks to Stonewall rioters, Harvey Milk, Dennis Lemon, Gay News, Ian McKellen, Edwina Currie (true) et al, and the battered bodies of bullied, beaten and abused gay men and women who stood up to be counted and refused to apologise for the way they were. It has given us something we never thought to have: pride. For a thousand years, shame was our lot and now, turning on a sixpence, we have arrived at pride - without even, it seems, an intervening period of well-it's-OK-I-suppose-wouldn't-have-chosen-it-but-there-you-go. Who'da thought it?

But don't kid yourself. For millions of teenagers around Britain and everywhere else, it is still 1973. Taunts, beatings and punishment await gay people the world over in playgrounds and execution grounds (the distance between which is measured by nothing more than political constitutions and human will). Yes, you will grow to be a very, very, very, very lucky man who is able to express his nature out loud without fear of hatred or reprisal from any except the most deluded, demented and sad. But that is a small battle won. A whole theatre of war remains. This theatre of war is bigger than the simple issue of being gay, just as the question of love swamps the question of mere sexuality. For alongside sexual politics the entire achievement of the enlightenment (which led inter alia to gay liberation) is under threat like never before. The cruel, hypocritical and loveless hand of religion and absolutism has fallen on the world once more.

So my message from the future is twofold. Fear not, young Stephen, your life will unfold in richer, more accepted and happier ways than you ever dared hope. But be wary, for the most basic tenets of rationalism, openness and freedom that nourish you now and seem so unassailable are about to be harried and besieged by malevolent, mad and medieval minds.

You poor dear, dear thing. Look at you weltering in your misery. The extraordinary truth is that you want to stay there. Unlike so many of the young, you do not yearn for adulthood, pubs and car keys. You want to stay where you are, in the Republic of Pubescence, where feeling has primacy and pain is beautiful. And you know what ... ?

I think you are right.

Source: Stephen Fry's letter to himself: Dearest absurd child
Official website: The New Adventures of Mr Stephen Fry
Wikipedia: Stephen Fry

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Anonymous said...

Pinky gold ring with small black stone?

Anonymous said...

He has been wearing that off and on for months now including coachella, the t-shirt he wore at coachella isn't as tight as this one but you can still see it.xx

He's worn it for over a year. You can see it in those pix of him on crutches at some official event around this time last year. He's wearing a suit in the pics and is outside.

I wondered if this was that sapphire chip necklace that he and Reese used to pass back and forth.xx

No, Babbler. In the pix I mentioned above, you can clearly see that it is a round gold band on the chain.

Anonymous said...

"Pinky gold ring with small black stone?"

I think so.

Anonymous said...

'Brokeback Mountain' Press Conference - Venice

Jake - pinky rings

Anonymous said...

"Jake - pinky rings"

Comparably big stone for a small ring.

Anonymous said...

"'Brokeback Mountain' Press Conference - Venice"

o gosh so young, so innercent - still got some baby fat -

kiss kiss kiss

3:37 said...

Those are not the ring on the chain. The ring on the chain is rounded, not squared off like those are, and doesn't have a stone.

Anonymous said...

Grasping at straws, hanging on by fingernails.

Listen, the next set of bike pics should be coming out soon. Pr is scouting out locations as we speak.

Anonymous said...

"Didnt Jake use to have a pinky gold ring that he said he bought it for himself? Might be it."

It doesn't look like pinky ring on a chain - this ring is bigger.

Anonymous said...

3:58 PM #2

Why is Austin bothering you?

Anonymous said...

3:44 PM, thats the ring I meant, thanks for finding the pic. The ring on the chain from yesterday’s pics looks like it has a protuberance which would be the stone, so that could be it.

Anonymous said...

Yesterday’s pics - I think pinky ring is too narrow and too small.

Anonymous said...

I am 3:58, #2. I just find the fairtytale spinning delusions on here as funny and silly as those of the Babblers. And I am amazed that you can't see the similarity.

Love That Dare Not Speak Its Name said...

4:15 PM, can you see the difference?

Anonymous said...

Wishing will make it so
just keep on wishing and care will go
Dreamers tell us dreams come true
It's no mistake
Wishing are the dreams we dream when we're awake

Just imagine that you are
Back in childhood days
Wishing on the evening star
For a load of hay
It worked wonders for you then
Who knows why or how
Though your older try again
It can help you now

WFT said...

Danyelle Dillon wrote:

April 04, 2006/

Waiting for Toothy came about as a venting of sorts. I wanted a "safe" place to discuss the possibility that Jake Gyllenhaal may not be completely straight and may be or- at one point- was dating actor Austin Nichols.

Anonymous said...

"I am 3:58, #2. I just find the fairtytale spinning delusions on here as funny and silly as those of the Babblers. And I am amazed that you can't see the similarity."

Scoffer I am amazed that you are amazed. Where do you think you are, anyway? Look at yr map.

Anonymous said...

3:58 #2 / 4:15

what do you think?

Should WFT2 be a "safe" place to discuss the possibility that Jake Gyllenhaal may not be completely straight and may be or- at one point- was dating actor Austin Nichols ?

Anonymous said...

I believe Jake Gyllenhaal is bi and was dating Austin Nichols, now it seems JG is dating RW (whom I can't stand).

Anonymous said...

I'm sure Jake is gay, Reese is a beard, but have no idea if Jake and Austin are still a couple.

Anonymous said...

Jake is not bi-

Wishing won't make it so.

Anonymous said...

Not wishing - knowing that Jake is gay as a goose.

Anonymous said...

^^Wish it? It's really of no importance to me whatsoever. But since I'm used to posting here, I thought I'd share my opinion.

Anonymous said...

If Jake is not with Austin why is he wearing a wedding band under his shirt.

Anonymous said...

Watch PR go into overdrive. I predict pictures of Jake's neck wear appears within 48hrs, if not sooner. Not the real neck wear of course(matching ring with Austin), but something to support the Jake is straight tale now that the wind revealed too much. He's been carefully hiding his neck wear for quite some time.

Anonymous said...

"why is he wearing a wedding band under his shirt"?

Because he's with Austin :)

Anonymous said...

Why would PapaG move to WH, the gay district. It's not a less expensive area at all. Besides, he is supposed to have a new girlfriend. Not Cantara.

Anonymous said...

"If Jake is not with Austin why is he wearing a wedding band under his shirt."

Who says it's a wedding band? wishful thinking maybe.

Anonymous said...

4:58 PM, I think PapaG moving to WH was a joke :)

Anonymous said...

I think Jake lives as a bisexual, but his true nature is 100% gay

He will decrease sex w/ girls with time.Of course, at that time, nobody will care about Toothy anymore...

Anonymous said...

"He will decrease sex w/ girls with time"

From 0 to what, -1?

Anonymous said...

"Why would PapaG move to WH, the gay district. It's not a less expensive area at all. Besides, he is supposed to have a new girlfriend. Not Cantara."

Please keep up to date. He is not having an affaire with the young filmmaker, she was quite upset about this gossip.. He is not screwing Cuntera, la Cunt says he's never even taken off his shoes, with her.

So maybe he IS living with some dude in West Hollywood, who's to say?

Anonymous said...

"I think Jake lives as a bisexual, but his true nature is 100% gay"

There is no such thing as a hundred percent gay living as a bi-sexual. He is living as a closet gay. Getting it up for a girl does not mean you are bi-sexual.

(Sigh!when will they ever learn? )

Anonymous said...

"He is not screwing Cuntera, la Cunt says he's never even taken off his shoes, with her."

LMAO

Anonymous said...

He "lives" as a bisexual means he is sleeping with both guys & girls.I think lots of gay guys have sex with women until they leave the closet (if ever)

Anonymous said...

The point of bearding is sleeping only with guys.

Anonymous said...

If he and Reese don't fuck (which I doubt), does this mean for 2 years she only masturbates? Cause we hear no rumors about her secret lovers.

Anonymous said...

5:33 PM, you can't be serious. Do you understand the concept of bearding?

Anonymous said...

The point of bearding is sleeping only with guys.

*******


No, the point of bearding (in Jake's case) is to have a female partner(Chin) with a high profile on magz and a lot of $$ and HW conections. Jake bearding with a plain Jane wouldn't give him the same benefits.

Think what you want but Jake is not vey different than a gigolo.And that means he has to "perform" in bed for his beard and make her happy,at least in bed, while he saves her of becoming the new dumped/loser Anniston.

So, i don't know if Jake is into hypnosis, viagra or yoga but he is gay AND fuking the Chin,no matter if he likes it or not.And i'm sure he doesn't.

Anonymous said...

I do understand. Some (Ted C and TBers) believe that Jake still shags Austin, but we never hear anything about Reese's sex live.

Anonymous said...

"So, i don't know if Jake is into hypnosis, viagra or yoga but he is gay AND fuking the Chin,no matter if he likes it or not.And i'm sure he doesn't."

Yup, could very well be the case.

Anonymous said...

Reese Witherspoon does NOT rule the world.

Try to understand that.

Anonymous said...

"Think what you want but Jake is not vey different than a gigolo."

Jake is very different - he's gay and doesn't need chin's money.

Anonymous said...

^^He still needs her status. Who is he w/o her anyway? He needs a hit asap.

Anonymous said...

Cantara mentioned/rambled on her blog/myspace/facebook or whatever, mentioned that she was helpng stephen put up shelves in his bachelor digs in WH sometime last year.

Anonymous said...

6:06 PM

Being "Reese Witherspoon's boyfriend" makes him look straight for the masses, that's it. Jake has no benefit from chin's status.

Anonymous said...

6:10 PM

Imagine - Papa Stephen surrounded with all those gays :)

Anonymous said...

Can we set up a separate thread for a "sex and bearding 101" class for newcomers, innercents from other planets, people under twelve and so forth, please -

thanks

Anonymous said...

if we're being picky, can we at least get our spelling correct.
'innercents'!!! who are these people?

Anonymous said...

Gramar Nazi strikes again! lol

Anonymous said...

"'innercents'!!! who are these people?"

Im joking, you idiot. Who are YOU?
you humorless piece of baggage!

Where No Man Has Gone Before said...

For decades, dedicated fans of 'Star Trek' have postulated a Kirk-Spock romance. A look at 'slash' fiction, 40 years later.

People have been writing fan fiction for almost as long as we've been telling stories. In 1614, when Miguel de Cervantes was slow to produce the second volume of "Don Quixote," an anonymous author wrote his or her own continuation of the saga to much acclaim. People being people, there has probably always been erotic fanfic, too, but it never had a name until the early 1970s, when "Star Trek" fans circulated zines postulating a romantic relationship between Captain Kirk and Spock. Soon enough, the writers and readers of the subgenre were referring to it by shorthand: Kirk/Spock was shortened to K/S or, simply, "slash," a term that now refers to any type of fanfic featuring a gay relationship.

The anonymity and immediacy of the Web have allowed slash to thrive online, with Internet communities springing up around "Lord of the Rings" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," to name just two of many. "Harry Potter" characters are also a current favorite, although every fictional character imaginable—from "Dawson's Creek" through Marty McFly and Doc from the "Back to the Future" movies—has appeared in slash fiction. But the remarkable thing is that even though characters and series often fall in and out of slash's favor, mirroring the fickle tastes of popular culture, K/S has been thriving consistently for almost 40 years.

K/S writer "Charlotte" gravitated toward Kirk and Spock specifically because "It's the perfect recipe for a great love story. You have two radically different people from millions of miles apart whose lives fit together perfectly." Charlotte, who identifies as bisexual, also cites Spock's fish-out-of-water, half-logical-Vulcan, half-emotional-human heritage: "In an early episode when a virus makes everyone reveal their innermost feelings, Spock says to Kirk, 'When I feel friendship for you, I am ashamed!'" But despite that tension, she says, Kirk tells Spock, "You are closer to the captain [Kirk] than anyone in the universe" in the final episode of the original series, when he's trapped in a woman's body and trying to convince Spock of his identity. "That's a great friendship story," Charlotte says. "If you add a sexual element to that, it becomes a great love story, and some of us see that sexual element."

Shelley, who asked not to use her last name, has been writing K/S and producing K/S artwork for "about 20 years." She attends many sci-fi conventions (including the Southern California-based Escapade, the self-proclaimed "longest-running annual slash convention in the U.S.") and is a beloved member of the K/S community. "I don't think I have ever belonged to a more diverse group," she says, adding that she's befriended women from around the globe and of all ages (slash's diversity doesn't extend to gender: surveys have found that the majority of K/S writers and consumers are heterosexual women).

Most people assume K/S is heavily sex-centric, but that's a misconception. Some stories—including many tales centering around "pon farr," the overpowering Vulcan mating impulse introduced in the episode "Amok Time"—are almost unbelievably explicit, but most are primarily about the creation and maintenance of a romantic relationship. Members of the K/S community are surprisingly good at policing their own work for what they refer to as "the squick factor." Stories are often rated on a scale (G to NC-17) by the author at the very beginning so fans of strictly romantic K/S don't accidentally encounter jarring pornography. (Click here and here for tamer examples of slash fiction and art, respectively.)

Mainstream "Star Trek" fandom hasn't always accepted K/S. Shelley recalls being asked years ago by convention organizers to stop selling her artwork at their event, apparently because it depicted two bare-chested men holding each other in an erotic way: "I was surrounded by people selling all kinds of sexy artwork, but because of the content of my drawings, I had to take them down."

Mark Anbinder, a coordinator of STARFLEET, the International Star Trek Fan Association, as well as "a founding member of USS Accord," the Ithaca, N.Y., chapter of the same organization, isn't interested in slash himself, but he does understand it. "Even if it would never occur to some viewers that these characters could be lovers," he says, "there was an obvious bond between them that everyone could see." Shelley believes the romantic relationship between Kirk and Spock was "written into the show." Charlotte is less sure, noting that Gene Roddenberry reportedly believed Spock was asexual. Anbinder thinks it was more pragmatic: "Roddenberry was a really open-minded guy, but he also knew a good thing when he saw one."

No matter what the new movie means to "Star Trek" fandom—the mind reels at what slash writers might make of virile, 20-something Kirk and Spock as played by Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto—K/S will undoubtedly continue to flourish, in part because the community has such strong empathy for the characters. Charlotte, who lives "in the Southeast, in a state where gay relationships have absolutely no rights," will be visiting Massachusetts this June to marry a woman she met through K/S, and she says Kirk and Spock have provided an example for their relationship. "K/S has it all: friendship, relationship drama that gets resolved, enormous expressions of devotion through sacrifice, trust and commitment over a period of decades. It's really hard to find another fictional couple that did all that, and did it as well." She adds that they will not dress in "Trek" uniforms at the wedding.

Newsweek

Anonymous said...

"Shelley, who asked not to use her last name, has been writing K/S and producing K/S artwork for "about 20 years."

Wow!

even bloggers have some standards said...

"'innercents'!!! who are these people?"

people who know the difference between innercents and innocents, thanks.

Anonymous said...

So maybe he [Stephen] IS living with some dude in West Hollywood, who's to say?/

We'll have to ask Cantara :)

camp is good! said...

Posted on OMG by Wicked

"This installment has achieved a nearly impossible hat trick. It's a movie that is exegetically correct enough to appease the most hard-core buffs, while opening up the final frontier to a whole new generation of fans who have yet to appreciate "Star Trek's" ineffable combination of sci-fi action, campy humor and yin-yang philosophical tussle between logic and emotion."

Star Trek review

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what these 2007 pics were about? Did the girl work there and he was complaining about something or was he trying to break it to her gently that Reese got the bearding job, not her? It just looks so strange, her pissed and him all slumpy.

Anonymous said...

Pacific Coast News says that Jake tried to avoid being papped with Reese so he drove to the back entrance of R+D Kitchen to pick her up after lunch.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, right.

Anonymous said...

Jake just wanted to finish the work ASAP.

Anonymous said...

"Does anyone know what these 2007 pics were about?"

No, but Jake walks with her (she's cut from the pictures, but you can see her arm in some of them) so I presume he knows the woman.

Anonymous said...

Posted on OMG by flf

Don't know if I mentioned this earlier, I watched (yeah, I know! but I was on my exercise bike and TV was crap that day!) a bio of Reese on E!news a few days back. And Jake was promoted as an old friend of Ryan's. In it there is a young Jake saying his family knew Ryan's family and how happy he was for Ryan & Reese!! This was when she was expecting Ava and before they got married.

So by saying Jake is a friend of Ryan's the implication was, imo, Jake knew what happened for the marriage to fail and he still hooked up with Reese which means....it's all Ryan's fault! sly, manipulative bitch or what?!

dream workshop said...

Page Six

Today The New York Times ran a story about an increasingly popular technique in which actors use Jungian theories of dream interpretation to try to act their roles in their dreams before playing them in real life. "We do some things that might be construed as voodoo, but nevertheless it gets results," says Harvey Keitel in the story. "I question everything, but I haven't been able to puncture any holes in this dream workshop." [NY Times]

George rules said...

Megan Fox wants to be like George Clooney: "He's sarcastic, and he has a different girlfriend constantly. It's considered charismatic. He's like this James Bond, sexy dude. The older he gets, the better he gets. It's a double standard. To be outspoken, or different at all, is a problem for women. As soon as you curse or, God forbid, make some sort of sexual reference that's a joke, you're (labelled a party girl). They don't do that with men, so I feel it would be a lot easier." [Mirror]

Meet In The Middle For Equality said...

"We know the people whose lives are on the line-those who identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender-will be there. But we need everyone there. Especially straight people."

— Charlize Theron, who is encouraging Californians to attend a Meet In The Middle For Equality rally in Fresno. [E!]

Jake said...

increasingly popular technique in which actors use Jungian theories of dream interpretation to try to act their roles in their dreams/

I keep dreaming Prince of Persia and the Forty Cute Boys - does that count?

Anonymous said...

"TMZ: While out in Beverly Hills with a friend, Anderson Cooper showed off his paternal side -- and his legs -- by holding a baby in his buff arms."

More pictures and interesting caption :)

**Exclusive** Anderson Cooper with his baby son and boyfriend (25 items) ---

pap agency pics

cat persson said...

Ted's cat is sick

Butch check-up: he's holding steady. Thanks for everybody's good wishes. Been a nightmare past 24 hrs.

Ted twitter

This Is the Zodiac Speaking said...

May 7th, 2009

Jake Gyllenhaal Film Helps Lead To Identity Of Zodiac Killer

The serial killer who inspired acclaimed mystery movie Zodiac has been unmasked by his own stepdaughter. Deborah Perez claims spectacles she snatched from Guy Ward Hendricksen's last victim will prove that he was the fiend who terrorized San Francisco, California in the late 1960s and avoided capture.

The police investigation into the Zodiac Killer murders was revisited in the 2007 film, which starred Jake Gyllenhaal and Robert Downey Jr..

Perez has kept her dreadful memories to herself for 40 years - because she witnessed at least two of her father's slayings and even helped pen several of the mocking notes he sent to police, according to the Globe.

And she reveals that, as a child, she embroidered a mask the Zodiac Killer wore on his killing sprees. Hendricksen died in 1983 after losing his battle with cancer.

Perez, now a real estate broker, insists she never realized her late stepfather was the Zodiac Killer until the film prompted fresh interest in the case, and America's Most Wanted revisited the killings. Upon seeing a police sketch of the sick murderer, she realized it was her father.

The 47 year old's evidence could serve to clear pedophile Arthur Leigh Allen's name - San Francisco journalist Robert Graysmith, played by Gyllenhaal in Zodiac, claimed Allen was the killer in his book, which the movie was based on. Allen died of a heart attack in 1992.

link

Jake said...

Holy crap I hope this means Zodiac 2 The Sequel so I'll finally have a real job!

Robert Graysmith said...

Over my dead body!

Jake said...

*That can be arranged.*

Anonymous said...

OMG! Jake is totally amazing, he solved the Zodiac case!!!

Anonymous said...

Socialite Life site has 43 Reeke R&D Lunch pics. 43.... LOL.

Anonymous said...

Photo Credit: Flynet

Anonymous said...

Reese really doesn't have a nice body at all. I know she gave birth, but other women did too. Maggie G., Michelle W., Hally Barry etc. All have nice post baby bodies. Maybe it's just her body shape that's so unfortunate?

Anonymous said...

Yes.

Anonymous said...

Yeah it's the body shape. Not nice.

Anonymous said...

x17 has the video of Jake and Reese at lunch acting extremely put out with their paparazzi swarm and getting the police to help them get into their car. Lame. There are 100 places to eat where this wouldn't happen. You can even hear the Chin growl "don't touch the car".

Anonymous said...

LOL

Anonymous said...

"getting the police to help them get into their car"

Reeke loves feeling important! lol

google said...

"Paris Hilton: I don't keep a diary...I Google myself." [The Sun]

Anonymous said...

**Exclusive** Anderson Cooper with his baby son and boyfriend (25 items)omg are you serious?!? This is Anderson's Baby Tile?!?!?!?

This is just about unimaginably fantastic!!

Hooray !!!!!! :-) :-) :-)

Anonymous said...

10:20 AM, please don't get so excited :)

It's only paparazzi agency caption, I think it's too good to be true.

Anonymous said...

Are they sure its AC and his bf and baby? Could it be a relative or friend? Just wondering because there's no physical affection between AC and bf, not that there has to be kissing all the time to be lovers lol, but just to make sure its not like a cousin or platonic friend.

Anonymous said...

Jake should be thankful paps are taking his pic. Yeah there were alot of paps but it looks like they were hanging out at that restaurant waiting for anyone famous to go in/come out. And why the back exit pickup? Stupid. Unless of course Reeke wants it to seem like they're oh so exclusive and have to run from the paps, yeah right.

Anonymous said...

"And why the back exit pickup?"

Reese wanted a bit of paparazzi drama. Dumb bitch.

Anonymous said...

too good to be true.

Probably... still, let's hope!

Anonymous said...

It'd be great if he would come out to support marriage.

Anonymous said...

10:29 AM

They (paparazzi) can't be sure.

I don't expect to ever see physical affection between AC and his gay friends/boyfriends, he's too closeted and too private for that.

Anonymous said...

"And why the back exit pickup?"

Jake is a backdoor man.

Anonymous said...

I saw the vid, it looks like the police (like 2 officers) were there generally, probably just to keep the sidewalks clear from all the pap activity at that celeb restaurant hangout. Doubt they were there just for Reeke. Shit, the cops were probably there for lunch!

Anonymous said...

Jake has no work and Reese does voice overs. Why would paps chase them? These two losers would soooo love to be Brad & Angie. lol!

Anonymous said...

There is no way cops were there because of Reeke. Only if PR arranged that, too :)

Anonymous said...

If Reeke wanted to avoid the paps why does Jake park his car in front right in the middle of where the paps are?? Then drives like an idiot round the back with the paps chasing behind to pick up the beard? I know that Jakey is not the smartest of guys but this is just plain dumb!

Anonymous said...

Hello, reality check. Do you reality believe Reese's pr has that much control/influence with the POLICE dept.?

Seriously? I think the hate is making some of you just a touch delusional.

Anonymous said...

And why would the paps chase after Reeke? They're boring. Its not as though Reese is going to flash her vagina as she gets in the car or Jake will grab her tit and call out to the paps "I'm getting some pussy tonight" or the paps are trying to catch Reese giving Jake a blowjob while they're driving away. This is Reeke for christsakes.

10:48 AM said...

10:54 AM

Hello babbler! Try reading more carefully, will you? :)

Anonymous said...

"Then drives like an idiot round the back with the paps chasing behind to pick up the beard? I know that Jakey is not the smartest of guys but this is just plain dumb!"

100 to 1 Reese gave the orders for Jake to do this.

Anonymous said...

Jake doen't need orders from anyone tombe dumb, LOL!!!

Jake said...

I'm smart! I didn't feel like carrying the bag, the bitch can carry her own shit.

Anonymous said...

Posted on OMG by TR

Hi there everyone. Great posts lately, I loved the Hugh Jackman one. It was really creative.

I just wanted to give my two cents on all the recent appearances. When I see stars make a concerted effort to attract attention I think something is up. Something you should ask yourself What is going on? when you see PR in overdrive. I think perhaps all the lovey Jake and Reese press is a preemptive move.

Abbie may let engagement news slip when she's at Cannes. It would be just like BWR to sandwich lots of "Reese Finds Love With Someone Who Deserves Her!!" headlines to counterbalance any potential Ryan Moves On headlines.

Remember the rules:
1. Nothing that shows up in the tabloids is by chance.
2. These people are living lives where reality has a completely different meaning then it does to you or me.
3. It's all a game and most of them are willing participants. Either because they are dragged in or they jumped in on their own.

P.S. I heard Maggie's not pleased that Reese and Jake took her private wedding and made all sorts of news with it.

Anonymous said...

P.S. I heard Maggie's not pleased that Reese and Jake took her private wedding and made all sorts of news with it.


^^
Where did you hear this? And why it doesn't surprised me AT ALL?

Anonymous said...

11:52 AM, please note: Posted on OMG by TR

TR used to work for Reese (if I remember correctly), has PR and tabloid connections, and posts on OMG from time to time.

Anonymous said...

I heard Maggie's not pleased that Reese and Jake took her private wedding and made all sorts of news with it."

Now THIS I believe. Whatever criticisms you may level against Maggie, she is not a famew hore (like her brother and his beard). She genuinely and sincerely does not like the attention of paps.

Anonymous said...

11:58, I think TR worked for the PR firm that used to handle both Reese and Ryan (Ryan now works with a different PR rep). TR is VERY on the mark when it comes to Reese, Ryan and company.

Anonymous said...

TR said that Reese is indeed a bitch who treated Ryan badly.

Anonymous said...

11:52 AM, please note: Posted on OMG by TR

TR used to work for Reese (if I remember correctly), has PR and tabloid connections, and posts on OMG from time to time.



Yes.But HOW does he know it? Who are the sources?

Anonymous said...

He/she probably still knows people who still work for them-it's not a big business. Word gets around.

Anonymous said...

Can't paparazzi just take a pic and shut their holes? Only crap comes out when they open their low life mouths. No wonder some celebs are annoyed.

Anonymous said...

Paparazzi and paparazzi agencies want to make more money, just like celebrities.

Anonymous said...

I thought TR said that he worked in the magazine business, not Reese's pr.

And since Maggie is a private person, who would she be talking to who would violate her privacy like that? She knows that Reese and Jake are doing the pr thing, so why would she be surprised or care?

I don't doubt TR has some good info.,but I find it hard to believe that he would be in contact with anyone who knows Maggie intimately.

Anonymous said...

Jake and Reese use paparazzi when it suits them, when it doesn't, they act like spoiled divas. They're annoying as hell.

Anonymous said...

And that's why we love them and obsess over them. And don't tell you don't. You take time out of you life to post here, when you could be doing something truly useful, as we all do.

Anonymous said...

Interesting movie coming out:

Kirby Dick's 'Outrage' comes at pivotal moment in gay rights fightGay politicians have "a right to privacy, but there's no right to hypocrisy."

Among those named in "Outrage" are veteran California Rep. David Dreier, Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, former Republican National Committee Chairman Ken Mehlman, ex-Louisiana Congressman Jim McCrery, former New York City Mayor Ed Koch and ex-Idaho Sen. Larry Craig, whose notorious 2007 arrest on suspicion of lewd conduct in a Minneapolis airport men's room effectively ended his political career.

Anonymous said...

IHJ registered users: 19,985

Pap pics; average views per pic:

5/7/2006: 952
5/7/2007: 720
5/16/2008: 610
5/7/2009: 84

Granted not everyone who is interested has seen the current pics. But going by numbers of the past year's sets, average views have been around 200 at best.

Yes, people register at a site and leave, or they see the pics elsewhere and have no reason to check out IHJ. But to go from those numbers, almost 20,000 down to, I'm guessing maybe 100-200 that go on the site, and to have average pic views of over 900 drop to 200 in 3-4 years, that's pretty bad IMO.

Anonymous said...

I think that TR is right. Why the PR blitz now? Because there's been so much bad news about Nailed and Brothers, and CAA can't counter the bad news with any new firm film offers. The fact that Abbie is going to Cannes and might slip some engagement news makes it even worse for witherbeard. Both Jake and Reese are desperate to change the story, and staged stunts are the best way to do it. Jake is headed straight for Affleck land right now. Professionally, he's tanking.

Anonymous said...

Got to agree. When you see all the excitement for something like Star Trek and the new stars coming up, Jake is beginning to look like yesterday's news, and you know where that usually ends up--at the bottom of the birdcage.

Anonymous said...

TR has been trolling around sites for a few years now. She used to work for a PR firm that handled Reese and Ryan, but doesn't now. The information she gets is 2nd or 3rd hand and speculation on her part. I would assume she still lunches and has some contacts by not day to day. For instance, she posted about Ryan's film schedule in S. Africa, but the same info was posted on IMDB before she posted on IMDB, and so on.

A lot of the stuff she says about Ryan and Reese was old gossip i heard years ago. Maggie is a private person and even if she was pissed I doubt that she would be blabbing to anyone at CAA or BWR.

"TR" has been around sites like DL, FCC and other places, I recognize her "comments.

Anonymous said...

This is one of the reasons I am wary of anyone who claims "insider" knowledge, especially when it fits in perfectly which your stated preferences/prejudices. Sometimes you've got to step away from the desire to be validated and really question what's someone's game is.

It's one of the reasons I stopped visiting IUC. I almost feel sorry for the loons over there. Their hatred of Brad, and especially Angelina, has made it so easy for them to continue to be played. Each "exclusive" is more ridiculous than the next. I mean what kind of people actively wish for the destruction of another human being, especially one who has children?

Anonymous said...

"And that's why we love them and obsess over them."

What? I can't stand Reese and Reeke.

Anonymous said...

"TR has been trolling around sites for a few years now."

I just love comments like this from babbler trolls. LOL!

Anonymous said...

3:05, could you please explain what, in anything 2:12 said, make him/her a Babbler?

Anonymous said...

3:02, your post and now mine just proved 12:34's sarcastic point.

Anonymous said...

"This is one of the reasons I am wary of anyone who claims "insider" knowledge"

What reason? Don't you smell babbler's bullshit?
TR proved he/she has inside knowledge - it's all there, in OMG comments.

Anonymous said...

"TR proved he/she has inside knowledge "

Did she/he show you his/her insider card????

Anonymous said...

Yes.

3:05 PM said...

"3:05, could you please explain what, in anything 2:12 said, make him/her a Babbler?"

Sorry, we are talking about few years of following TR and troll posts and tactics.

Anonymous said...

"And that's why we love them and obsess over them."

What? I can't stand Reese and Reeke.

^^
Me neither! I hate them and i absolutely love to hate them. In fact, i think i became a better person since i loathe them

Anonymous said...

So questioning the veracity of a poster (re: TR) makes you a troll?

That is so silly. If you are convinced about TR, nothing someone else says to the contrary should bother you. An OMG disciple should have more faith.

Anonymous said...

Posted on OMG

"But it makes you wonder if Maggie is upset with her mother as well."
TR: She's part of the lie though. All of these individuals are living for fame and money and have nothing to gain from Jake being outed.

"She [Maggie]and Peter must have known that Jake and Reese would bring their 3 ring circus to Italy"
TR: Of course they knew but they are annoyed by the way the story was told post-wedding in the press. They became a footnote on their own wedding day. Kind of rubs in who is the most successful one in the group.

"Did you speak to Maggie an Peter?"
TR: Without going into detail...I know someone who is close to someone who works/worked for MG.

Anonymous said...

"So questioning the veracity of a poster (re: TR) makes you a troll?"

Please stop playing stupid. Pretty please. It's so annoying and insults everyone's intelligence.

Anonymous said...

"That is so silly."

What is silly? Trashing trolls?

Anonymous said...

And believing whatever you're told as long as it conforms to your beliefs, 3:42, makes you intelligent? Attempting to browbeat someone into silence or acquiescence proves just how tenuous your certitude is.

Anonymous said...

I could write a post right here,right now claiming to be one of Reese's pubic crabs and certain of who she is sleeping with.
The fact is, this is Internet and it doesn't matter who is an insider and who is not because there is no way to prove it neither wise.

Anonymous said...

Calling people trolls because they don't drink your particular koolaid is ridiculous and just makes you look weak.

When you can't make a counterargument, you resort to name calling. Childish.

3:42 PM said...

3:53 PM & 3:56 PM

It's not my fault you aren't interested in reading all TR posts on OMG and making your own mind.

I did read all TR posts, I have my opinion, and will repeat that 2:12 PM is a troll.

Anonymous said...

Babbler's Bullshit and Troll Traffic is easy to spot.

Anonymous said...

Re: TR quote, does this person work for Maggie or worked for Maggie. You can't do both.

If this person works for Maggie currently, did Maggie call him/her from Italy to complain about Reese. And why would Maggie do that? And why would they be passing Maggie's confidences along to an outsider? I would hope Maggie would find out who this person is and fires them.

If he/she worked for Maggie, then how would he/she know how Maggie currently feels?

Anonymous said...

TR seems to have a lot of free time on her hands. I googled some of her "claims" once she started posting and found most of them through google by typing Reese/Ryan/Abby/BWR, etc, old gossip forums and such. The only thing that she posted about that probably convinced some was she posted about Jake and Reese were going to be on the cover of OK magazine a week before. She knows someone who does copy for that rag, so what, I know someone who does copy for the NE.

Last year she claimed that Ryan and Abby were engaged, not true unless they are keeping it a secret.

It's obvious she hates Reese and likes Ryan and I assum that it's because way back then she probably worked for theur agency, doesn't now obviously.

Anonymous said...

"And why would Maggie do that?"

Because it's normal to talk to your PR person(s) when something PR big as wedding is concerned?

Anonymous said...

"Last year she claimed that Ryan and Abby were engaged, not true unless they are keeping it a secret."

Link, please.

Anonymous said...

I find it hard to believe that Maggie is bitching to her PR person about her brother (and his beard)'s behavior.

Anonymous said...

I believe TR is an insider.

Anonymous said...

"The fact is, this is Internet and it doesn't matter who is an insider and who is not because there is no way to prove it neither wise."

Yes, there is a way to prove insider knowledge or info.

For example, someone posted on WFT about first Reeke promo trip to San Francisco and said "expect photos". That was a day or two BEFORE we got pictures.

Anonymous said...

JG's Diary
Entry #7
5/8/09

Days since last appearance in completed film : 574 days (Rendition, 10/11/07)
Days since last firm movie booking : 353 (PoP, 5/20/08)
Days since last reported Reeke photo-op : 1

Anonymous said...

^^Well there was a big chance photos would appear when they were in SF.

Anonymous said...

EXPECT PHOTOS??!!
THAT'S AN INSIDER TIP??

Reeke's meaning of existence IS photo ops!!!

Sorry, they have to come up with something better than that to make me a believer....

Jake said...

"Days since last appearance in completed film : 574 days (Rendition, 10/11/07)
Days since last firm movie booking : 353 (PoP, 5/20/08)
Days since last reported Reeke photo-op : 1"

Wait, how many days are in a year?

Anonymous said...

4:56 PM, love your posts.

Anonymous said...

4:57 PM, 4:58 PM

LOL, you should try reading posts.

You missed the point. The point is - one can prove to be an insider or have insider knowledge by providing correct info before anyone else.

Anonymous said...

What, you don't think Jake hits this every night and twice on Sunday?

Anonymous said...

Then i predict pics with Reeke going on a coffe run and carrying shopping bags.Expect it at any minute now!

There you go, I'M AN INSIDER !! HOW EXCITING!

Anonymous said...

5:11 PM

You don't play stupid - you are stupid.

Anonymous said...

5:07 pic

Fuck! Those look like my grandma's legs.And she's been dead for 8 years now!







...miss you, granny :´´(

Jake said...

5:07 PM

There is no way I would fuck that.

Anonymous said...

5:11 PM

You don't play stupid - you are stupid.




i'm still not convinced

Anonymous said...

REESE: Have sex with me for a week and I'll let you out of the bearding contract and give you back half your money.

JAKE: You know 2011 really isn't that far off.

Anonymous said...

5:17 PM

Do us a favour and read the posts. No one is trying to convince you of anything, no one is trying to prove that TR is an insider.

Anonymous said...

"Reese is just, I don't know..but there's something off about her. "

I think that there really is something pathologically twisted and sick about Reese. So many of these pr stunts smell like the kind of trashy pr tricks that Reese would pull, not Jake. He's just along for the ride, poor pathetic idiot. Reese needs a weak man on her arm - a toy that she can dominate, cajole and control. She couldn't control Ryan and he left her. The next best thing is a desperate, lonely closeted gay man with image and career problems.

I also think that Reese, CAA and Disney are discouraging Jake from taking new parts. Think about it :

They don't want him talking.
They don't want too much political activism
They don't want him to take any juicy parts that might in anyway complicate the selling of PoP
They don't want him spending too much *unmonitored* time with non-industry friends or family

The more dependent, insecure and desperate Jake is, the easier he is to control.

Since he returned from England, Jake's life has been trainwreck. Weird mood swings, no firm film offers, creepy pr appearances, semi-loony behavior, frequent trips to the therapist. I wonder if this is what Monty Clift looked like before he tanked.

Anonymous said...

^^ First part is from interesting OMG post.

Anonymous said...

5:31 ITA. Good points about controlling Jake. Well said.

Anonymous said...

"I also think that Reese, CAA and Disney are discouraging Jake from taking new parts."

Why would he listen and obey?

Anonymous said...

Please, Jake's probably taking a break after working all of 2008. I think he'll soon have a new project. Jake and Reese are an item at the moment and use photo ops to promote themselves. I don't think Jake's so innocent like some here want to think.

Anonymous said...

Jake looks like a complete loon in that stupid hat. Why in god's name is he wearing a fedora at a wedding? He's sort of nutty, and the bearding has brought out the loony, emotionally dependent, infantile side of him. He's just like his nutty father, semi-nutty friend, Chris and super-loony god-mother, Jamie Lee Curtis. And the mother looks like she just walked off of the Exorcist set. I haven't seen her smile in years.

Maggie and Peter are the only stabilizing force in the Gyllenhaal clan right now. Without them, the whole nutty enterprise would probably collapse under its own weight.

Anonymous said...

I also think there is something "off" (sick) about Reese. & that she will eventually blow.

& that Jake's responding to something in his own family background, maybe he's had to be in care-taker mode, with father who's a "case" - depressive, maybe alcoholic.

think of women who are attracted again and again to abusers, alcoholics, etcetc.

pr shill from hell said...

Hi, I'm a PR shill. I think I hit every necessary note:

Please, Jake's probably taking a break after working all of 2008.

"State that Jake has oodles of work."

I think he'll soon have a new project.

"State that things are looking bright for the future."

Jake and Reese are an item at the moment

"State that Jake and Reese are a real couple."

and use photo ops to promote themselves.

"Add just a hint of veracity to make the lie that little bit stronger."

I don't think Jake's so innocent like some here want to think.

"Allude to Jake being canny and therefore in control of his career so that he doesn't look weak or castrated."


Sire, my work is done. I'll be getting on with that Hayden Christensen project just as soon as I catch my breath.

Anonymous said...

"I don't think Jake's so innocent like some here want to think"

I don't think he's "innocent" but just pretty fucked up.

Anonymous said...

5:48 PM

Reese is Jake's beard and is using Jake to promote herself. Jake isn't complaining too much.

Anonymous said...

5:51

You are giving too much credit to Maggie & Peter. I don't think they are so happy as some people believe. I also think their wedding is a last swipe to stay together. I give them no more than 2 years.
The only sane person there is Ramona but let's check again after puberty. I don't hav ehigh hopes for her either.

Anonymous said...

5:52 PM, you are crazy, I'm not a PR shill. I simply stated my opinion of the current situation. That's all.

Anonymous said...

"Sire, my work is done. I'll be getting on with that Hayden Christensen project just as soon as I catch my breath."

Bravo!

Hayden Christensen said...

Good!

Gaywatch said...

What, Are You on Crack?

Jon Stewart takes on the latest marriage equality decisions in Maine and Washington D.C.

Gaywatch

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"I don't think Jake's so innocent like some here want to think"

I don't think he's "innocent" but just pretty fucked up



ITA Well said

Boy George said...

What would you all do if you didn't have Jake to talk about? I know this is a form of escapism. There are good things happening in the gay community. Marriage is legal in Iowa, Washington, D.C. and New Hampshire. Gay groups have a goal to make same sex marriage legal in all the New England states. The world doesn't revolve around Jake.

Anonymous said...

Oh, so you don't think that homophobia in Hollywood is an impediment to gay liberation?

Don't touch the car said...

It's part of his bearding contract collateral and if he screws me over I want that thing in mint condition so I can sell it at a top price.

Anonymous said...

And the mother looks like she just walked off of the Exorcist set. I haven't seen her smile in years./

LOL!

Anonymous said...

"Don't touch the car"

Reese is such a stupid bitch.

Anonymous said...

"I also think that Reese, CAA and Disney are discouraging Jake from taking new parts."

Really? WHY?

Anonymous said...

I think that there really is something pathologically twisted and sick about Reese. So many of these pr stunts smell like the kind of trashy pr tricks that Reese would pull, not Jake. Okay I am an old time TB but I've never heard such bunk.

Reese is the one in control? Please ask yourself WHY Reese Wwas enlisted to stand about with Jake Gyllenhaal in the first place.

She didn't go seeking him out. She didn't need to hide herself from the world.

To blame her for everything he is or has become is beyond ridiculous. Sure, she may be a nice or not-nice individual, whatever, but to make as if make has no control over his life or actions is to be beyond deluded. He chose this path. He is a product of his own image machine and the times we live in.

But then it's always easier to slam the woman because she must be the one making the guy crazy. Nothing to do with the fact he's probably half nutty himself by now and probably well on the slippery slope to Tom Cruise delusions of grandeur.

On another note, why would it surprise anyone that Stephen Gyllenhaal would nto be comfortable around gays? Some of you folks are so naive.

Old time TB said...

^ Part of my post at 4:06 has ended up in the quotation paragraph.

Anonymous said...

"5:48 PM

Reese is Jake's beard and is using Jake to promote herself. Jake isn't complaining too much."

Don't waste your time, 5:48 isn't a TB.

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