Saturday 30 May 2009
Friends and Allies
Kris Allen on his frustration with Christians who wouldn't accept Adam Lambert:
"There [were all these rumors] about how all the conservative, Christian people that would vote for me hate Adam and never want him to win because of who he is. Oh, it was so frustrating — really bad, because we are really good friends. Why can't everyone get along? It never made any sense for me to judge anyone, who they are. It frustrates me that people can't get along with people because of their differences. And I'll tell you what, especially Christians.
Christians have a hard time accepting people like Adam — liberal, from L.A., looks different, maybe acts a certain way. He's a great, great guy. They don't even give him a chance. And it's frustrating because I come from that. A lot of my friends are not that way, which I appreciate, but a lot of people in Arkansas or in the South or wherever are that way. We really hope that our relationship can be an inspiration to people. I could go on about that forever."
Source: Entertainment Weekly
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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 2051 Newer› Newest»"could you please post the context of the context of the phrase: "to date"?
does this phrase imply sexual congress?"
link, please!
is "to date" a euphemism for "fucking" ? ?
you people are annoying with asking for the fuckin context. One post is enough, geeze
"is "to date" a euphemism for "fucking" ? ?"
No.
"is "to date" a euphemism for "fucking" ? "
Not always. You can date someone w/o fucking.
"you people are annoying with asking for the fuckin context. One post is enough, geeze"
Don't diss posters who want to help out (for a change).
date
- a meeting arranged in advance; "she asked how to avoid kissing at the end of a date"
- appointment, engagement
- get together, meeting - a small informal social gathering; "there was an informal meeting in my living room"
- blind date - a date with a stranger; "she never goes on blind dates"
- double date - a date in which two couples participate
- tryst, rendezvous - a date; usually with a member of the opposite sex
- date, escort - a participant in a date; "his date never stopped talking"
I've noticed that some posters are annoyed by spelling or grammar mistakes and insult the very poster instead of politely correcting them.
posters who want to help out (for a change)."
You mean the sweet posters who don't call the others cunts for no reason?
:)
"You mean the sweet posters who don't call the others cunts for no reason?"
Yes.
OH NO!
WE ARE TURNING INTO BABBLERS!
WE ARE TURNING INTO BABBLERS!.
Never!!!
"Hey, you can see (almost) what's on the end of is chains in the 3rd pic, looks like pendants"
Or a ring :)
(yes, I'm serious)
Austin magnified
irony does not translate well into text
STFU you c**t!
*kicks Jake's ass*
"A very smart person told me once what other people think of me is none of my business. ... I do not Google myself. I know that's only going to end badly."
— Edie Falco
Drake is from my hometown (New Iberia Louisiana) and he dated one of my good friends, who is a GIRL on and off for like 3 years. We would always try to tell her that he was gay but she never believed us. We also went to the same college, Louisiana State University. He’s an amazing artist and a great person.
Rumor has it that Rob Pattison and Jake are staying at the same hotel in NYC. Read: same HOTEL not same room. before you all shoot your loads off, LOL.
^^So? I'm sure other celebs stay at that hotel.
"WE ARE TURNING INTO BABBLERS!"
No way. This ain't no tea party here.
They are filming "New Moon" in NYC?
Who's Rob Pattison?
P.S. Is he hot?
"Rumor has it that Rob Pattison and Jake are staying at the same hotel in NYC."
How tragic for jake is that's true. It really would be rubbing salt into the wound of his faltering career wouldn't it.
P.S. Is he hot?"
No and he looks like he constantly needs a bath. I bet he stinks to high heaven.
"Rumor has it that Rob Pattison and Jake are staying at the same hotel in NYC."
Actually, at least it would allow Jake to go about whatever h's doing in privacy, because let's be honest, who's going to care what Mr Witherspoon is up to when this year's 'it boy' is around.
Why doesn't he stay at Maggie's house? Or is she still filming?
Babbler tidbit: Ever notice how thier blog posts are in superhuge font? Its because stupid Lawgoddess doesn't know how to enlarge the font size on her computer screen/browser. She's getting old and has a hard time reading small print (which is ok ,we all will so I'm not going to make fun although I want to so so bad) and instead of her or UV and FL knowing or figuring out how to make her screen print larger, UV and FL make the Babble Blog in font big enough a fly 5 miles away around the corner can read it. Lawgoddess complained on DCF when posters used small fonts and she wanted to make it a policy that everyone had to use 10 pt standard font. Just what the mods needed, enforcing font size Lol. They laughed at her and told her no fn way. Everytime I visit Babbler, not too often thank god I laugh and laugh becuase thier font is getting bigger and bigger evry time it seems like. Shit.. LOL.
6:14 PM
Because Jake is working.
Awww, poor Lawgoddess :)
"who's going to care what Mr Witherspoon is up to when this year's 'it boy' is around."
Can you imagine, Rob and Jake ride down in the hotel elevator together, walk thru the lobby to the exit door and Jake, seeing the throngs of fans outside, screaming and crowding the sidewalk and street, thinks they're there for him? He and Rob will step outside the door, Rob will have the masses rush at him while Jake gets 2 lowly old homely fans in the corner asking him to autograph their Bubble Boy and BBM dvds, "Can you write 'To UV, Love Jake' on it?".. "Same here, but make mine 'To FL' thank you so much."
LOL
"No and he looks like he constantly needs a bath. I bet he stinks to high heaven."
Sounds better than smelly Witheredpoon! And he has real man balls!
Craig Olejnik, a poor man's Jake Gyllenhaal?
Craig Olejnik
PROOF: If a magazine fakes a MAP you KNOW they're doing it with their gossip. Can you imagine if people try to find the stars' homes with that? Shit!
High-end celebrity weekly In Touch ran a feature this week showing where various celebs live in the tony Brentwood section of LA. They even have a handy map. Only problem? The map is of a different Brentwood, up in Oakland.
So yeah, those little arrows showing you exactly where Tom and Giselle and Reese and Arnie keep their mansions? Completely made-up. Some genius staffer at the magazine just typed "Brentwood, CA" into Google Maps and ran with it.
Defamer - In Touch Don't Know Brentwood
"Completely made-up."
What else is new? LOL
"Craig Olejnik"
Kinda looks like a cross between Jake and a twink Adam Lambert.
Adam is twink?!
"donnie darko just bought some dunks"
Whatever that is, they sell clothes. (dunks=hats?)
Jake at DQM NYC
Adam is a whole lotta man :)
dunks = hightop tennis shoes. Probably these, LOL
Jake should learn a move or two from Ms.Walters:
"a story that Barbara Walters, doyenne of American news programmes, once stripped to her underwear and tried to tempt him [Peters] into bed.
Peters, who produced the blockbusters Rain Man and Batman, seemed to be fearless about creating enemies — and the richer and more famous the better."
link
"Jake should learn a move or two from Ms.Walters:"
So you're saying Jake needs to tempt some weirdo hairdresser-producer into bed?
Food for thought.
Are Gays Meaner Online?
If you want to be a writer, you have to have a thick skin. And if you want to write for the Web, you need a Kevlar bodysuit: people can get pretty nasty out there on the Internet. Anonymous readers have used various sites' commenting features to call me names I truly wouldn't call my worst enemy. My crimes? Things like offering etiquette advice, interviewing an artist, and writing a subjective (and positive!) review of a CD.
And I'm not even talking about the homophobic crazies who apparently receive alerts when certain topics appear on LGBT sites, so they can show up and call us names before scurrying away (and who are really best ignored). Even some of my fellow gays seem determined to turn the Web into a place of insults, invective, and vitriol.
I realize I may have already lost some readers to the Comments section: they're down there now, clickety-clacketing away with profane insults. (I guess this because many of the nasty comments I've read make it clear that the commenter didn't bother to read the entire article--completion of the article should be a prerequisite for commenting.) But I'd like to start a conversation about why so many of us seem unable to respectfully handle differences of opinion. What's going on here?
Anonymity, of course, is one reason for the Internet's stridency: a certain type of coward will say anything when he doesn't have to attach his real name to it. (I also do a lot of writing for a site that requires that commenters use a verifiable email address--the tone is very civilized.) And writing an anonymous attack screed on the Web is one way, I guess, for angry-at-the-world people to release some frustration.
Perhaps there's also some confusion about how to use the Web. For instance, an article about dating earned me a comment saying I was a shallow, frivolous fool for thinking about dating in a world where hate crimes happen every day. And niche stories, about fashion or celebrities, say, frequently cause some readers to complain, "This is not important to me; therefore, you suck." The thing is, if you want to avoid stories about dating and celebrities on the Web, that's easy to do. (But if you want to use all of your time saving the world, you should not be hanging out on the Internet much at all.) What's great about the Web is there's really something for everyone. If you don't like what you find at a site, that doesn't necessarily mean the site is bad. Different people enjoy spending their free time in different ways. And that's OK. (Right?)
I think most sites appreciate feedback about their content, and any writer of quality welcomes healthy debate, as well as correction of factual errors. The thing is, a factual error is just that--and mistakes happen. No need for calling names. (And can we all agree that, as commenters, we will not waste our precious time pointing out other commenters' errors of grammar?) There also seems to be confusion about the difference between opinion and fact (admittedly, there are some gray areas there). In a review or an opinion piece, the writer is stating his or her opinion--with which you are welcome to disagree, but a difference of opinion does not usually require threats of bodily harm.
Further, and this is best reason to state disagreements politely that I know: a name-calling, profane rant makes the writer seem insane (or at least unbalanced)! It does not convince anyone of the validity of his opinion (in fact, it does the opposite). I am saying this in an effort to help all of you better make your points.
It's an Internet thing--go to any site where people can have online discussions, and you're sure to find a lot of people saying a lot of nasty things. I just wish we LGBT folks treated one another better than that.
Planet Out
It's interesting that you have two unconsciously effeminate men in the same family group and profession. Jake is clearly bearding and gay, and half of the time, Peter channels John Malkovich, another effeminate, sexually indeterminate, character actor. Then you have Chris, who screams rural closet queen every time I see him. There is so much undischarged homoerotic energy in the Gyllenhaal clan. I'm sure that they're all in therapy and they have a joint subscription to the International Male catalog.
"Then you have Chris, who screams rural closet queen every time I see him."
Have you ever heard Chris speak? He sounds exactly like Jake, same pitch, same cadence. I always thouht he might be the TT bf because they dress alot alike (see Tennis Open pics last year) and tend to wear the same hairstyle and facial hair trends at the same time. They might have been each other's first bf growing up.
John Malkovich, another effeminate, sexually indeterminate,
..
Uh, no.
Jack Twist won $232 mil.;)
link
Adam seems to like pretty smaller effeminate men judging from his past and current boyfriends. I also love how he treats his boyfriend: opening doors, letting him go first, carrying his bags, driving him around...
link
Adam knows how to treat a man right!
Hey Reese you know how you're always complaining about how I don't open doors, let you go first, carry your bags, drive you around all the time...well I've been thinking, maybe I should hang around Adam Lambert for like a week or a month or two, hell maybe even the whole summer and he could show me a few things?
All this talk about Reese's new movie being filmed for 14 weeks in D.C./Philadelphia....you know there will be a big hullabaloo about Reeke renting a house and living together during that time, the kids visiting, Jake dropping by the set, etc.. Since Jake isn't working it'll be interesting and hilarious yet pathetic, because this time he'll really be Reese's bitch.
"Jack Twist won $232 mil.;)"
OMG, LOL. Spittin image, and the story of living with his parents on a lonely ranch. Good for him although I can't believe he won
$232 million and only (only!) gets a lump sum of $88.5 million after taxes are deducted, WTF? Govt gets a lot but they shouldn't get THAT much. Shit that's robbery. He bought the ticket in a town called Winner, that's hilarious!
You know that new movie coming out with John Travolta, Taking Pelham 123? Here's a still I have of a scene, look at this, see anything iconic?
"It's interesting that you have two unconsciously effeminate men in the same family group and profession. Jake is clearly bearding and gay, and half of the time, Peter channels John Malkovich, another effeminate, sexually indeterminate, character actor. Then you have Chris, who screams rural closet queen every time I see him. There is so much undischarged homoerotic energy in the Gyllenhaal clan. I'm sure that they're all in therapy and they have a joint subscription to the International Male catalog."
Good script.
Yes, Peter pings, too, a lot of people mentioned that.
Homoerotic energy is good, it's no reason for therapy :)
"dunks = hightop tennis shoes. Probably these"
Gay, gay, gay, lol
"Jake should learn a move or two from Ms.Walters:"
So you're saying Jake needs to tempt some weirdo hairdresser-producer into bed ?
Duh! Been there a hundred times, done that hundred times!
"Maybe no shirt. Maybe just the tux and the tie. Maybe not."
--Neil Patrick Harris on his potential wardrobe when he hosts the Tonys this Sunday night.
"Are Gays Meaner Online?"
One of the comments:
To say that "gays" are meaner online is equivalent to the asinine lie that "gay relationships don't work" coming (usually) out of the mouth of straights who champion an average of a 50% divorce rate in their (precious) marriages (which they incessantly believe WE would be a THREAT to IF WE got the RIGHT to marry, but I digress...)
The point is...PEOPLE are mean, and MEANER ONLINE.
They lose ALL sense of propriety, common sense, courtesy, and are given to saying (typing) things that they would NEVER say out loud in public.
"The point is...PEOPLE are mean, and MEANER ONLINE.
They lose ALL sense of propriety, common sense, courtesy, and are given to saying (typing) things that they would NEVER say out loud in public."
But we live in a culture of insult - cf Jon Stewart and snarky political blogs. There is also a comedic tradition of insult and name calling.
I think it's both healthy and funny.
^ ^ ^
and when it goes too far, a good moderator steps in and deletes.
"They lose ALL sense of propriety, common sense, courtesy, and are given to saying (typing) things that they would NEVER say out loud in public."
I don't think Internet and anonymity changes people.
People do type things that they would NEVER say out loud in public, but they don't change from nice to nasty just because there are no repercussions.
"They [Jake and Chris] might have been each other's first bf growing up."
I can totally see that.
"You know that new movie coming out with John Travolta, Taking Pelham 123? Here's a still I have of a scene, look at this, see anything iconic?"
OMG, city Ennis and Jack :)
"Adam knows how to treat a man right!"
*sigh*
"Adam knows how to treat a man right!"
He sure does. *smokes cigarette*
Fuck!!!
Adam has the voice of a songbird, a pecker as big as a California Condor's wingspan and a tail that knows how to shake some feathers.
LOL
Jake OTOH has the voice of a screech owl, a face as pretty as a California Condor and the forked tail of a flycatcher.
"Jake OTOH has the voice of a screech owl, a face as pretty as a California Condor and the forked tail of a flycatcher."
*cries*
After penning his last prose about the lovely ladies he laid in Italy, Austin has been crowned with a new title: The Great California Grey Snatchcatcher.
"Jake said...
"Jake OTOH has the voice of a screech owl, a face as pretty as a California Condor and the forked tail of a flycatcher."
*cries"
Oh suck it up, you pansy!
Come on Austin, we know that you love your little dove :)
Wow 2 minutes between crying and sarcasm.
Reese, just shut up, bitch !
Jake's initial career plan was to be a bird
Reese has the body of a common tit and the scent of a thrush.
Dear Ted:
Brangelina officially breaks up, Toothy Tile comes out of the closet and Robsten decides to make the relationship public in the same day or news cycle. Which grabs the headlines first and for the longest? Which would you cover first? In regard to Robsten, it disappoints me. I wanted Rob to hook up with someone like Emma Watson, so they could be this über-cool British couple that just kicks ass.
—Alexandra
Dear Tabloid Tsunami:
Brangelina takes the rag cake, for sure. Because you know some crazy crap is going down there. Toothy would nab People or something like that. And as for Robsten...Emma has no sex appeal, so that doesn't work.
AT
"Jake's initial career plan was to become a bird - "
but papa said, there are no fagelas in my noble Scando family ! ! !
(just dwarves. . . )
Dear Ted:
Love your column, but I'm really disappointed in your attitude toward Adam Lambert. Not proud? His own mother has said she had to sign a contract with Idol saying she wouldn't discuss his sexuality. Don't you think Adam had to sign one, too? He's done everything he can to be true to himself but say the words—so much more than any other gay Idol contestant. And he's not proud? Just because he's obeying a legally binding contract until the very moment he doesn't have to any more? Very harsh, Ted—and a bit surprising coming from you. Still got lots of love for you, though!
—Petcleric
Dear 'Tude Check:
I don't think Idol has inked specifically when he's allowed to come out. If they have, shame on them. And shame on Adam for signing it. And I'm not pressuring the guy, just sayin' I don't think he's waving the homo flag loud and proud right now, that's all.
Dear Ted:
Do you write all your pieces when sitting on the porcelain Honda or do they just seem to always stink naturally? Have yet to come across anyone with your inbred sense of wrong so naturally. Is it a gift or did you have to practice to achieve this low brow crap?
—Agg
Dear Testy:
Lowbrow is one word.
"Jake's initial career plan was to be a bird"
Then I found out I could get ahead faster if I raised cocks and cultivated swallows!
"papa said, there are no fagelas in my noble Scando family"
What a bastard!
"Jake's initial career plan was to be a bird"
Does anyone really think Jake wrote like that as an 11 year old, or did Mama or Papa write it for him?!
""Jake's initial career plan was to be a bird"
Then I found out I could get ahead faster if I raised cocks and cultivated swallows!"
:) very clever! and I swan, if it's not true!
"Does anyone really think Jake wrote like that as an 11 year old, or did Mama or Papa write it for him?!"
Mama or Papa wouldn't write something like that.
Jake and Maggie's High School Yearbook Photos
What famous actor was in disco club during high school?
"Then I found out I could get ahead faster if I raised cocks and cultivated swallows!"
One of many things I LOVE about my job!
"Does anyone really think Jake wrote like that as an 11 year old, or did Mama or Papa write it for him?!"
"Mama or Papa wouldn't write something like that."
You REALLY think Jake wrote this at 11, with the correct punctuation and spelling, without any help from the parents, who are writers? I don't remember how I wrote at that age, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't as good, especially without any assistance:
"Unfortunately, I was not that great at flying, so I gave that occupation up."
Everyone with average IQ and good schooling should be able to write sentences at 11.
Makes it sound like old 'stage mum' horror Naomi was grooming poor Jake even at the age of 11.
What do you mean, 11:55 AM?
Jake said that Stephen and Naomi wouldn't let him do movies while he was in school.
11:55 always seems to me that Jake's career is one of the most planned and packaged in recent years, with Naomi doing alot of the planning in the early years, and probably still now.
12:02.. I think Naomi was planning for the long term, ie she wanted an a-list star, not some burnt out child actor on her hands.
Planning doesn't mean a thing if you can't make it happen - influence Jake's career buy opening doors for him.
According to Premiere, Jake Gyllenhaal's parents discouraged him from being in 1992's The Mighty Ducks because it would have taken him away from home for two months.
"Jake Gyllenhaal's parents discouraged him from being in 1992's The Mighty Ducks because it would have taken him away from home for two months."
And a lot of good they're doing him now, encouraging him to beard which is taking away his fans, his self-respect, his movie offers and his life for at least 3 years.
Ah, "The Mighty Ducks".
I would have been bigger than Leo and Matt rolled in one if only they let me do it!
Jake has a voice kind of like a duck.
So does Maggie.
Can't they dub Jake's voice in his films? It might help with the macho image they're working on.
Can't wait to hear the british accent for PoP, I'm sort of expecting Miss Marple with stick on abs. Superb!!
Oh and a leather loin cloth. That film is going to be pure gold.
"And a lot of good they're doing him now, encouraging him to beard which is taking away his fans, his self-respect, his movie offers and his life for at least 3 years."
Stop you two cents speculation and get a life or use your brain if you have one.
12:50 PM
Babbler go home!
what is the problem with his voice?
12:50 PM: Naomi, don't you have a house to sell and a script to write?
Can be too girly.
"what is the problem with his voice?"
Can be too girly.
"Babbler go home!
Wrong, an other try maybe?
"Wrong, an other try maybe?"
Right for sure.
"Can be too girly."
girly??? boyish and sweet yes but it's not a problem with me.
"pure gold."
gyllen means gold in Swedish!
haal = well, I don't know what it is in Swedish but I haal ass in every language!
Actully you whore out your ass in every country.
A male voice is a male voice - whether tenor altino or the deepest bass.
'Naomi, don't you have a house to sell and a script to write?'
To save the world from another embarrassment like Bee Season can't you just let her post away here. Anything to keep her away from the word processor.
"A male voice is a male voice - whether tenor altino or the deepest bass."
Exactly! Couldn't agree more!
:)
"To save the world from another embarrassment like Bee Season can't you just let her post away here. Anything to keep her away from the word processor."
Hey someone's gotta pay for my bones. I ain't gettin no paper route.
"Miss Marple with stick on abs. Superb!!"
hey somebody's on a roll today. :)
Thanks! Miss Marple's Queen's English is awesome.
If I Date a Guy Who Used To Be Gay, Will He Only Get Off on Anal?
It's time for another installment of Pot Psychology, the biweekly "advice" column in which we attempt to solve everyone's problems with an herbal remedy.
This week, it's an all gay edition. In this episode, Rich and I answer gay-related questions about fluid sexuality, fluids, and butts.
Jezebel
"Anything to keep her away from the word processor."
Haha, well there's a term I haven't heard since the 80s. Who in the hell uses "word processor" any more?
1:47.. it is rather archaic isn't it. Gave you a laugh though didn't it.
The turd processor? That was Boo.
Bad Atti!
I don't think Idol has inked specifically when he's allowed to come out. If they have, shame on them. And shame on Adam for signing it.
And what good would NOT signing do?
James Franco and Robert Pattinson are reportedly fighting it out to play the lead in a Jeff Buckley biopic, which is dumb, as everyone knows that James is pretty much the spitting image of Jeff. So whatever, Sparkly Vampire!
ONTD
In (...) countries where the genders are rigorously separated, many men have their first sexual experiences with other men, which affects their attitudes toward sex in marriage, Ms. Lootah said.
“Many men who had anal sex with men before marriage want the same thing with their wives, because they don’t know anything else,” Ms. Lootah said. “This is one reason we need sex education in our schools.”
NYTimes
The poor sods cant find their way to a veejay? I find this hard to believe.
who is this miz loofah and what does she know?
Sex education is good, but short heterosexual porn (with naked people!) should be more than enough. lol
"Many men who had anal sex with men before marriage want the same thing with their wives, because they don’t know anything else,” Ms. Lootah said. “This is one reason we need sex education in our schools."
Nah, sex education can't turn anyone straight.
"The poor sods cant find their way to a veejay? I find this hard to believe."
I believe it.
Believe what? That gay sex turns straight men gay?
^^No, I believe that if some men only had the opportunity to have sex with other men and don't know a woman's anatomy, they don't know where exactly to enter and the women themselves maybe can't help them out because they probably are still virgins and don't know their bodies very well.
We're dealing with pretty primitive cultures, then. Lootah is an Islamic conservative.
Don't know what her teachings have to do with contemporary life in the USofA.
I can't imagine the poorest most ignorant male in this country not knowing basic m/f anatomy.
The rural poor know animals. The urban poor have TV.
What about millions and millios and millions of people who were virgins before marriage?
"The urban poor have TV."
Maybe in these countries there's censorship regarding sex education or everything revolving around sex on tv? And if you see animals do it, you usualy don't watch closely what they exactly do.
"What about millions and millios and millions of people who were virgins before marriage?"
Who knows what happened in their bedrooms? Maybe some embarassing things happened before they finally figured out?
A human is a member of a species of bipedal primates in the family Hominidae.
DNA and fossil evidence indicates that modern humans originated in east Africa about 200,000 years ago. When compared to other animals and primates, humans have a highly developed brain, capable of abstract reasoning, language, introspection and problem solving.
No need for sex education in order to procreate.
Jake said...
"pure gold."
gyllen means gold in Swedish!
haal = well, I don't know what it is in Swedish but I haal ass in every language!
June 06, 2009 12:57 PM
No sweetie,
"Gyllen" in Swedish means golden and "haal" means slippery.
For real.
Sincerely Ike.A
And there's the possibilty that even if these men from the "primitive" cultures finally figure out vaginal sex, they still prefer anal.
"haal" means slippery"
Slippery ass?
"The urban poor have TV."
Maybe in these countries there's censorship regarding sex education or everything revolving around sex on tv? And if you see animals do it, you usualy don't watch closely what they exactly do."
Im referring to the urban poor in USA - what goes on in conservative Islamic countries is beyond my ken.
And as I said not relative to education in the USofA -
I've worked among rural poor, the most ignorant know what is up and what is down and the difference between a'hole and veejay.
z
many people posting on this subject havent the faintest idea what they're talking about.
give it a break, youse guys.
swedish said...
"haal" means slippery"
Slippery ass?
June 06, 2009 3:46 PM
Ike. A says;
No, just "haal".... as in "Caution,slippery when wet"
Sort of.
Moments before Isaiah Freeman-Schub left three years ago to study abroad in Paris, he picked up his laptop computer and wrote a life-changing blog entry.
"I must disclose that I am a Martha Stewart-watching, fashion-abiding, flower-arranging, boxer-brief-wearing, hair-styling, ... Rachel Ray recipe-cooking, vodka-drinking, nail-filing, exfoliated, pec-toning, pocket square-sporting, football-abhorring, Queer-as-Folk-viewing, Kelly-Clarkson-listening, accessory-coordinating, fitness-obsessed, Boystown-going, candle-lighting, fruit fly-leading, necktie-tying, pinky-extending, mirror-looking, GQ-reading, Jake Gyllenhaal-lusting, blow-drying, man-loving FAIRY."
He clicked the submit button, walked out the door and didn't bother checking his messages for days.
Freeman-Schub, 23, is one of a growing number of gays who are outing themselves online. Experts say that while an older generation of gays and lesbians struggled with making public their sexual orientation -- often remaining in the closet well into their adult lives -- the Internet has made it easier for a younger generation to take that step.
The phenomenon is the subject of a local exhibit called "Coming Out Online" by artist Doug Smithenry, who painted images from online video testimonials for the show, which is at the Center on Halsted, 3656 N. Halsted St.
Whether they use Twitter, change their profile on Facebook or post YouTube videos, coming out online offers a sense of safety, said Ritch Savin-Williams, a Cornell University development psychologist.
"They don't have to face any repercussions or see how the person will react," said Savin-Williams, author of "The New Gay Teenager."
Lucas Colon said he lost friends when he declared he was gay on his MySpace page. Some of his friends from Kelvyn Park High School said they always knew, but others just stopped talking to him and deleted him as a friend, he said. Still, he doesn't regret how he did it.
Chicago Tribune
"I'm a shy person and I didn't have to be there to tell them," said Colon, 24, who is homeless and living with friends. "I didn't have to see their emotion. If they would have cried, I would have cried. If they had gotten mad, I would have gotten mad."
Freeman-Schub, who lives in Lincoln Park and is a stylist and writer for Modern Luxury magazines, said he wasn't ashamed to tell people he was gay, he just didn't want it to become an all-consuming topic. "I wanted subsequent discussions to be minimized to e-mail and [to] have better control of that," he said. "My fear was not that they would not accept it, but rather they would be over-accepting. I didn't want them to feel that they had to put all of this reinforcement on me because I came out. It would be suffocating."
Freeman-Schub's former boyfriend, Bill Pritchard, was 31 when he came out to loved ones eight years ago. He did it in person, telling his mom he was gay, then his dad while on family vacation. Pritchard, senior vice president of community affairs at ChicagoPride.com, said online was not an option for him then but now he has his own blog, he tweets and he understands why the Internet is preferred by so many.
"It's a new paradigm," Pritchard said. "For a younger generation, they interact online. Social networking has taken the place of gay bookstores, coffee shops and places for them to interact with each other."
Having your sexual orientation posted online has its perils, as Jim Verraros, 26, of East Dundee discovered when he was a finalist on the first season of "American Idol." He came out on a blog he started while at Columbia College, and it was discovered by executives at Fox and others. "I got hate mail," he said. "People were threatening my life, saying they would kill me, ... that I should burn in hell. I was ninth in the country and the further I got, the more people did research. Fox was telling me to take it down. They didn't want me to be too open with it on the show."
At a recent after-school youth group meeting at the Center on Halsted, which provides myriad services for the lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender community, online experiences were discussed. Many youths said cyberspace gave them a degree of anonymity as they explored who they were in chat rooms and on gay sites. Some said they initially came out to friends they met online, and that acceptance helped them come out to people in their lives.
Joy Lowery, 18, of Evergreen Park said she forgot to shut off the computer one day and her family discovered she was interested in women because she had been visiting a gay chat room. But unlike many in her generation, she thinks it's preferable to tell people in person. "You're right next to that person. You can see their facial expressions and see what they're thinking. Online, there may be pauses, and you don't know what they're thinking or if they're freaking out," Lowery said.
Candice "Cat" Doumel, 22, who lives with friends in Chicago, announced on a half-dozen social networking sites that she likes women. Her aunt found out and stopped talking to her. "I'm not changing who I am to make everyone else comfortable," Doumel said.
Dan Heagney, 21, a senior in college in northeastern Missouri, posted a seven-minute video on YouTube three years ago on which he outed himself and asked for other young gay men and women to respond with their own coming-out stories. He got video responses from 87 people across America, Europe and Australia ranging in age from 15 to 28.
"If they're coming out for the first time on the archives, it's mostly for themselves, rather than to friends and family," Heagney said. "The videos also add a personal touch. They can see my face, hear my story and have an actual connection with me."
Smithenry said some of the art in his exhibit is from Heagney's video archives. He sees how the Internet can help isolated gay youths looking for answers, acceptance or a community. But he sees pitfalls too. "In some ways, having the Internet is refreshing. It's also characteristic of this generation that they are much more out and less concerned about their privacy," Smithenry said. "But I don't know if they fully understand the consequences around [declaring online that they're gay]. And I know for me, direct contact is always the best for coming out to those who you care about."
He said he knew he was gay at 9 but didn't come out to his parents, who lived in a rural Illinois town, until he was in his mid-20s.
"I was a dumb barn kid who was seeking information, and for me it took awhile to find it," said Smithenry, 41, who now lives in Highland Park with his partner and their 3-year-old daughter.
I must disclose that I am a Martha Stewart-watching, fashion-abiding, flower-arranging, boxer-brief-wearing, hair-styling, ... Rachel Ray recipe-cooking, vodka-drinking, nail-filing, exfoliated, pec-toning, pocket square-sporting, football-abhorring, Queer-as-Folk-viewing, Kelly-Clarkson-listening, accessory-coordinating, fitness-obsessed, Boystown-going, candle-lighting, fruit fly-leading, necktie-tying, pinky-extending, mirror-looking, GQ-reading, Jake Gyllenhaal-lusting, blow-drying, man-loving FAIRY.
We have so much in common!
This on-line self-outing might soon become something else. After 9/11 there were women on my campus wearing hijab just because they wanted to see whether they will be mobbed or beaten on the street, as "muslim women in the US". They were not muslims, just faking it to see the reaction. What can be more stupid?
"GQ-reading, Jake Gyllenhaal-lusting, blow-drying, man-loving FAIRY.
We have so much in common!"
Yeah, Jake you are totally into YOURSELF. It usta be kinda cute.
"They were not muslims, just faking it to see the reaction."
Interesting experiment, lol. I hope that coming out on the Net is less dangerous.
"He said he knew he was gay at 9 but didn't come out to his parents, who lived in a rural Illinois town, until he was in his mid-20s. "I was a dumb barn kid who was seeking information, and for me it took awhile to find it," said Smithenry, 41, who now lives in Highland Park with his partner and their 3-year-old daughter."
Aww, don't you love happy ending stories :)
See how Reeke can go without photo ops or arranged ops when they don't want to? Why couldn't they have been as low key over a year ago when it would have been more than appropriate to be less flashy? Ugh. :(
Reeke is never low key.
If Reeke didn't do photo op then there is a good reason for it - and low key is not it.
There is a twitter sighting about an hour or so of them at Balthazar in NY so they can avoid them if they choose.
"so they can avoid them if they choose."
Definitely.
I'll wait for the pictures.
I posted that Chicago Tribune internet coming out story here yesterday or the day before, the link with just 1 paragraph quote, not the whole thing because I didn't want to take up too much space. Its nice that someone posted the whole thimg, sure, but no one noticed or commented or cared when I posted it 2 days ago. Yes it's petty and I shouldn't feel a little miffed about it but I do. People, pay attention to comments! /rant over.
Just saw jake gyllenhaal and reese whiterspoon at the moma store soho. I never see a celebrity that I care about.
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"so they can avoid them if they choose"
LMAO!
Reeke avoiding paparazzi, what a joke!
"I never see a celebrity that I care about."
Burn on Reeke. LOL
thenotoriousmeg: Saw reese witherspoon and jake g at balthazar adorable!
If Reeke is at MOMA store in Soho shopping ON A SATURDAY (celebs usually avoid shopping and being out when the common masses are, like on w/e) you can bet your ass there will be (arranged pap) pics.
It's the new "coy & private" Reeke!
"Reeke avoiding paparazzi, what a joke!"
Obviously they do now for whatever reason.
Last year there were sightings of them at MOMA and other museums and there were no pap pics.
balls2lips: saw jake g at soho big ho bathhouse
5:13 PM
Yeah, right. lol
petaispissed: saw jake g and reese r in soho skinning a cat alive!
dumbblondsoccermom: 2 guys in car backseat in pkg grage- 1 look like jakegylenhall! ask me 4 a pen
Jake should have done it like James Franco. Last year was Franco's year. He got an Indie Spirit Award, a Globe nom. He's ambiguous about his sexuality, imo for the attention he gets because of it (like Jake did 4 years ago). Has a widely unknown gf, just gradutated from college and has probably a very solid film career in front of him. Most important he doesn't have a pretentious, super famous gf and arranges ops with her. That dude is smart, Jake is not.
4:59/5:10: do you have the twitter sighting link? thanks.
James Franco is also smarter (not just in books) and a better actor than Jake.
"2 guys in car backseat in pkg grage- 1 look like jakegylenhall! ask me 4 a pen"
LOL!
http://search.twitter.com/search?q=+reese+witherspoon
"James Franco is also smarter (not just in books) and a better actor than Jake."
I have to agree with that.
I never would have thought that Jake would end up being such a disappointment.
It's never good being a famewhore. Though seems he realized it and reduced the famewhoring a bit.
Cute pics of Ryan Phillipe coaching his son's little League time while Abbie Cornish and Ryan's daughter watch. http://justjared.buzznet.com/
Watch, all the twitters have been about Jake alone in NYC this week but Reeke will do thier big Saturday photo op to make it look like it was a romantic getaway and that they were inseparable all week. I think I finally figured out how they do it.
"Though seems he realized it and reduced the famewhoring a bit."
By using his sister's wedding for fauxmance tabloid spread?
^^We'll see 5:39.
Reese's and Ryan's kids are gorgeous, especially the girl.
Didn't Jared post pics of Reese taking Deacon to his softaball practice and coaching a bit with Ava in tow? And look it's Flynet!!
I don't recall seeing pics of him at his son's softall games, just taking him to karate, maybe wrong but I smell pimping the kids.
Well all the twits from NY haven't been all about jake alone, one had them having dinner and the other shopping. She was supposedly in NY for Avon business so one can assume she was busy.
Still no pap shots during the week, they could have been arranged.
This is probably weird and won't ever happen, but I have a soft spot for James Franco and Michelle. I think they'd make a nice couple, ever since I saw a pap video of Busy Phillips (she is James' Freaks and Geeks co star) introducing him to Michelle.
As I've said, it will never happen anyway.
Wanted to add: I must admit Ryan (whom I don't like) and Abbie make a nice looking couple and they seem happy. :)
In a way I'm glad to see Ryan playing Reese's PR "pimp the kids" game. Jake hasn't been in any Little League ones. Ryan one-upped her on this one, he brought along Abbie and her and Ava are sitting together. They look like a little happy family of four!
Jake, Reese, Ava, Deacon and Atticus are up next at his softball game along with visits to her set where she plays a softball player!!!
Ryan is no better than Reese. In away he is also pimping her new movie as well.
They should both leave the kids out of it.
Maybe Deacon has training there regularly and neither Reese nor Ryan called the papz, but people who work or have training there for some cash?
I believe Ryan and Abbie are nice people and good actors, but they, Reese and her kids bore me to tears.
6:05 PM, it's Deacon's baseball training, not softball!
greenst8: 8 minutes ago: "Just saw Reese Witherspoon! I never realized how sad the paparazzi were until seeing them in action."
^^ LOLOL! Little does this person know those paps are hired.
Jake, Reese, Ava, Deacon and Atticus are up next at his softball game along with visits to her set where she plays a softball player!!!
Ryan is no better than Reese. In away he is also pimping her new movie as well.
They should both leave the kids out of it./
6:05 PM, it's Deacon's baseball training, not softball!
Does it matter?
What's funny/sad is Reeke is walking around Soho and all the twitter sightings are coming in as "I saw Reese!"
How's that bearding working for ya, Jake?
"6:05 PM, it's Deacon's baseball training, not softball!"
Exactly 6:13, does it matter? 6:12's comment above reminds me of how technical the Babblers are.
"Does it matter?"
Yes, it seems 6:05 implied the kids went to play softball. That's what Reese does, Deacon plays baseball. It has nothing to do with Reese and it's not unintentionally pimping Reese new flick. This whole thing may not have been arranged, maybe some regular players or people who work there called and got some money for the info.
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