G.I. Joe is like watching fireworks with a blindfold on: it's deafening and you feel under attack. The story makes no sense — why does the Eiffel Tower topple over after being covered in sparkling slime? And worst of all: Sienna Miller and Channing Tatum, a charismatic guy whom The New York Times once compared to Marlon Brando, have the chemistry of two ice cubes. As my mind wandered, I started to imagine ways for the director to have reinvented the franchise for the 21st century. What if the G in G.I. Joe didn't just stand for "government"? What if it also stood for "gay"?
To many G.I. Joe fans, who grew up collecting the action figures, this might be blasphemy. Who cares? The best summer action movies — The Bourne Identity, The Dark Knight — always come with tortured heroes who carry around deep secrets. Imagine the dramatic possibilities! For starters, we could ditch Sienna Miller, which would be a big improvement right from the start. Duke's (Tatum) new love interest would be a male soldier. The movie would even strike a note of social relevance, given that our troops still adhere to "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" (i.e., Duke couldn't blab about his love life to any of his friends).
Hollywood likes to cast gay characters in supporting roles, as background scenery, but they still don't anchor movies that often. You can understand the cold feet: the movie business is about selling tickets to teenage boys, and even Brüno tanked. This week, there was a storm of protest online when Robert Downey Jr. suggested his onscreen Sherlock Holmes — scheduled to hit theater screens on Christmas — might have had a gay fling with Watson (Jude Law). Gawker described the "full blown gay panic" from conservative film critic Michael Medved. "Who is going to watch Downey Jr. and Law make out?" he asked. "I don't think it would be appealing to women. Straight men don't want to see it."
Medved's off base — the Sherlock Holmes screenplay doesn't even feature a male kiss, and action heroes have been a little gay since the beginning of the genre. Look at Superman's revealing red tights. Or Batman's "friendship" with Robin. James Bond is such a good dresser, he might as well be gay (at one point, Rupert Everett even wanted to star as a gay James Bond). So maybe it's just a matter of time before we see our first openly gay action hero. At 2 a.m., I'd wasted enough of my time on G.I. Joe. But before I fled, I wanted to check in on an elderly woman who had come to see the movie alone. She looked shellshocked in the lobby, but it turned out that she was only crying tears of joy. Apparently, she couldn't wait for the sequel.
I started to back away, but it was so late that I didn't think it would hurt if I sprang my idea on her. What if, in the next movie, G.I. Joe were gay? Would she still buy a ticket? Her face lit up. "Absolutely!" she said. "Just because you're gay doesn't mean you're not powerful."
Source: Newsweek, What If G.I. Joe Were Gay?
Saturday, 5 September 2009
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I don't say they are a real couple, but could be that he didn't want his hat to crinkle in the bag?
7:17 PM
No, they didn't look like a couple at all.
How do couples look like?
You never go with your bf side by side w/o holding hands or arm in arm?
How do couples look like?
Like they are together and like it.
How do couples look like?
Not like Reeke.
How can he like to be with Reese after knowing her better? Even her babydaddy run off!
There were no paparazzi to take pictures of Reeke "holding hands"
EXACTLY. ITA.
The back pics in Brooklyn make them, as someone mentioned before, look more couple like actually.
Sure, for a couple who's been married for 40 years! Not one that hasn't seen each other for at least a week, is supposedly living together with 2 kids underfoot and has less than a day to fuck and suck like animals. They looked like brother and sister, plus they spent most of the fuck and suck time shopping and going to restaurants with a group. LOL
IHJ gallery - Jake and Constantine
Thought the back pics were in tribeca, I'd be surprised if Reese ever made it over the bridge (i'll now count to 10 while the deludge of brooklyn pics appear).
"Like they are together and like it."
And with eye contact and by subconsciously touching each other.
7:29 PM, question is why was she in Brooklyn then? No photo ops, nothing. And except for die hard Jake fans, her trip will go unnoticed.
I guess, I just don't get Reeke totally.
The man between Peter and Jake is a friend of Maggie and Peter I think. I think he was the guy with Maggie when she infamously breast fed Ramona. He was there with his kid. Did someone save the Maggie pics?
"I guess, I just don't get Reeke totally."
Me neither, if I only had 24 hours with Jake I sure as hell wouldn't be checking out zucchini with his sister, even if it was organic.
Guess Reese must just have a very low sex drive.
I googled and found it:
his hair was a bit longer
7:38.. oh dear god, there are somethings you just really don't need to see, and that is one of them.
^^Why?
Guess Reese must just have a very low sex drive.
Reese is the beard, not gf.
I was the poster who sent the Jake Monkey pic to Gorilla Coffee couple days ago. I haven't heard back. They're probably afraid to open the tinypic link thinking it's a virus or something. Or maybe they check their email once a month lol.
Or shit, Jake's people got my GC email addy and doing a background check. I should be hearing a knock on my door any minute now. LOL
Ewwwwwww! Fugly Maggie and her sagging tits, gross.
"why was she in Brooklyn then?"
Too soon to say there are no pics b/c they might be for a Us Reekly story. If it wasn't that it could be a meeting for Avon or a manager, whatever...her gf... !!
7:29 PM, question is why was she in Brooklyn then? No photo ops, nothing.
Maggie didn't feel like doing a photo op and waste too much time with the beard so it had to be Brooklyn. With a bit of luck Reese could get "Reeke with M and P" photo(s) and PR, so Brooklyn was still 5 times better PR than staying in Philly and watching TV.
"I don't say they are a real couple, but could be that he didn't want his hat to crinkle in the bag?"
From what I read it was a newsboy cap. Those are just pieces of wool.
IMO Blue QT's kid has 2 daddies. If he's buds with Maggie it might be how Jake got the idea for BT. Hell, Blue QT might even be the front for BT. Who knows.
Oh, get this.
GooseGossip: Jake Gyllenhaal! Third night in a row at the restaurant. He must LOVE me. Obviously.
[1 minute ago]
Goose Gossip
Don't look at me!
It's gotta be from the Blue Goose!! Three nites in a row?! Methinks he likes the name too. I wonder if Jake knows the restaurant has a twitter named "GooseGossip" LOL
I get a laugh imagining Jake taking the beard to eat at a place called Blue Goose every night.
Or shit, Jake's people got my GC email addy and doing a background check. I should be hearing a knock on my door any minute now.
Don't answer the door, it might be UV or Jack/Jeff! lol
Patrick Swayze R.I.P.
TMZ - Patrick Swayze
A few people Jake has worked with have died recently.
Jim Cunningham: Son... DO YOU SEE THIS? This is an Anger Prisoner. A textbook example. DO YOU SEE THE FEAR, PEOPLE? This boy is scared to death of the truth. Son, it breaks my heart to say this, but I believe you are a very troubled and confused young man. I believe you are searching for the answers in all the wrong places...
Faith has been broken, tears must be cried
Lets do some living after we die
Wild horses couldnt drag me away
Wild, wild horses, well ride them some day
Susan Boyle - Wild Horses
My god that sounds like something that should be told to Jake about Reeking. It was BS/double-talk in DD but in RL with the bearding, so true.
I wonder if Jake bribed Maggie and Peter into running around with the Chin all day Sunday by promising they would only have to spend 24 hours with her and then she would be gone and they could enjoy each others company without her around. I also wonder what Jake promised Maggie to partake in any of the pap photo ops that happened on Sunday. And after looking at the US Open pics, it's amazing that after 3 million pics of Reeke together, that Jake is not able to smile so geniunely when he is around the Chin. Even though there are plenty of pics of Reeke together where Jake is smiling, it never matches the true smiles we see when he is with anyone but the Chin.
ITA. And he doesn't even have to really smile. My fav one is where he's scratching his neck (I hesitate saying beard or chin). There's more charisma and glow and just TOTAL SEX in that one pic than any Reeke pics of the last 3 years.
One more week before he starts filming again. Hallelujah. I really earned my fee this time. Note to secretary - send a bottle of Moet to Anne Hathaway along with a note of thanks.
Stephen at Huffington Post
The Beatles, Obama and Real Change...
barrettraven: Had some awesome coffee at Gorilla Coffee where we saw Maggie Gyllenhaal. I love Park Slope.
about 9 hours ago
My fav one is where he's scratching his neck (I hesitate saying beard or chin). There's more charisma and glow and just TOTAL SEX in that one pic than any Reeke pics of the last 3 years.
He's free and enjoying all that testosterone around him :)
Seems Vogue and Michelle's people didn't get the memo that Shutter Island will come out next year. Hence she's on the cover of Vogue for October, S.I.'s original release date. I agree with a poster who said that the gal looks better in candid shots.
Vogue cover girl
^^^ The photographer was drunk? Looks like he/she wasn't even trying to get a good or interesting photo.
^^IA. What a disservice to Michelle. She's actually a quite pretty gurl. They could have done a much better job.
Looking forward to Michelle's Vogue interview.
Seems Vogue and Michelle's people didn't get the memo that Shutter Island will come out next year.
My THREE movies got postponed - where is my Vogue cover?
^^I suppose it's you Jake? ;)
Seems Vogue and Michelle's people didn't get the memo that Shutter Island will come out next year.
My THREE movies got postponed - where is my Vogue cover?
Vogue cover photo
P.S. I'm not getting anywhere near that amateur!
^^I read the photographer was Mario Testino. LOL.
Fuck!
^^Guess it wasn't Mario's day.
Don't worry Jake, Mario pays more attention to boys :)
^^ ;)
Dear Ted:
Loved the gallery of the famous faces who are the stars of your Blind Vices—some faces we expected, some we didn't, you big ol' tease! Can't wait to search through the full archive when it comes online. Was wondering if you have any gossip about things stars do to prevent stories from going public, besides bribes, scary lawyers or sex?
—A.J.
Dear Powers of Persuasion:
You pretty much named all three things.
So sad to hear about Patrick Swayze. But if the Reeke Brooklyn Adventure this past weekend that may have been a 2 page rag mag spread will be pushed over in favor of covering Swayze's death. Karma isn't with them. The hug story got pushed because of Michael Jackson and now the Jake's family loves Reese and is pushing marriage story will get bumped again. I honestly think that the quickest way for Reeke to end is if the rags just don't print anything about them for 2 or 3 months. Reese will be desparate to get her name out there and if she feels Jake is holding back her PR campaign she may finally dump him.
Don't forget one unfortunate thing - Jake is still the best marketing tool Reese has or can get.
Dear Ted:
Couldn't Bradley Cooper have done any better than Renée Zellweger?
—Jake
Dear Cooped Up:
He could, and he probably will. Don't count on this Renée thing to be anymore than a phase for B.C.
I'm very sad to hear about Patrick's death. He endured his health problems as long as he could,but I guess it was already his time to leave...
Another celebrity death cast a shadow over a Reeke's fest. I'm seriously starting to think that Reeke photo-ops are the kiss of death to famous people.
I know we all make fun of them but I believe now that Reeke is one of the signs of Apocalypse
(i'm so scared) :(
^^You all assume there was a photo op in Brooklyn. I personally don't think so, doubt Maggie would have participated. But I guess we'll see if pics will show up.
Was wondering if you have any gossip about things stars do to prevent stories from going public, besides bribes, scary lawyers or sex?
If I only knew!
**doubt Maggie would have participated**
Since when Chin ask for permission from others to arrange a photo-op?
Since Maggie knows how chin operates.
You are so ready to believe Maggie wouldn't agree to do a photo-op!
I used to think the same about Jake and look what happened later...
Maggie is his big sister, of course she would agree to do a photo-op if Jake ask her.
As I've said, we'll see sooner or later if there was a photo op.
If not now, it will be a family group photo-op, it's just a matter of time.
More Michelle.
seems she cut her hair
Michelle - she is very pretty but photos could be better :)
I think we can expect some Jake covers or articles for Brothers promo. We already had Nat on the Interview cover + interview.
Michelle: I don't think she is ugly at all, but that plasticine nose bothers me big time! : D
Michelle: I don't think she is ugly at all, but that plasticine nose bothers me big time! : D
Yes, she shouldn't have messed with her nose. I think it looked fine before too.
I'm a big supporter of rhinoplasty!
Michelle's an okay looking woman, but everytime I see her it reminds me of what I used to think everytime I saw Brad with Jennifer ... Damn, what in the hell was the man thinking?!! Dope must blur the vision as well as dull the senses.
Ditto for Heath.
No sightings from NYC anymore. I wonder if Jake headed back to work?
Dope must blur the vision as well as dull the senses.
MW was a rebound gone awry, like someone, imo, rightly stated. End of story.
JJ has Jake at tennis match pics up:
JJ
Brad with Jennifer
Aniston has it.
Blue eyed guy with Pete and Jake - his name is Ebon Moss Bachrach, he did a short film with Pete and Maggie when she was 7 months old. He, Maggie and Pete are friends.
Brad with Jennifer
Aniston has it.
The "problem" with Michelle is, she's cute, but DULL. IA, Jen has a certain something at least.
Graduated from high school when she was 15. Legally emancipated from her parents at the age of 15.
Michelle Ingrid Williams isn't dull at all.
Michelle Ingrid Williams isn't dull at all.
I guess we have to agree to disagree. ;)
Chuck Bass, What Did You Do?!!!!
There are some tattoos that you just want to lick and rub your nipples on (ADMIT IT). And there are some that you just want to hiss at and throw holy water at it. Ed Westwick's new tattoos fall under the latter category.
Ed posted pictures of two ENORMOUS ink skidmarks he got on each arm. One is a feather, which I'm guessing means he's light as feather (gay) and stiff as a board (always horny for peen). The other tattoo is a half-nekkid pin-up which is Ed's way of saying "I LOVES VAGINAZ." Yup, doesn't work. Especially when the look on his face is saying, "PUT A DICK ON MY FOREHEAD."
Dlisted
Michelle and Jennifer are okay. I think Michelle is a much better actress than Jennifer. But they are mortals who mistakenly thought they belonged with gods ( I speak metaphorically ... well somewhat).
A solo Ebon w/o breastfeeding Maggie. ;)
EMB
Re. Jen, Michelle: Both Brad and Heath moved on to younger and hotter women, Angelina Jolie and Gemma Ward respectively.
While I think Michelle's pretty, Jen looks like a man. She didn't age well.
"Graduated from high school when she was 15"
She is a high school dropout and she emancipated from her parents because of the labour laws that say no minors can work over than 9 hours at day. She continued receiving money from her mom and dad, especially his rich dad, while struggling in tv world.
About her looks, I think it was Heath who was under her league.
It's a shame he didn't realize the loyal woman he had by his side :(
He might be alive now days if he did....
jsrocks said:
Jake is so much more appealing when Reese is not pictured with him.
ONTD - Jake G at the US Open
jsrocks said:
Jake is so much more appealing when Reese is not pictured with him.
Traitor!
11:43 AM, ITA
jsrocks is to-faced!
http://iheartjake.suddenlaunch.com/index.cgi?board=Pictures&num=1142561686&action=display&start=1260
"I think Michelle is a much better actress than Jennifer. But they are mortals who mistakenly thought they belonged with gods"
*****
I don't think that's the case of Michelle. But Jennifer thought she was some kind of Aphrodite when she was with Brad. Her status had a very short life,though :(
jsrocks is two-faced!
In this case that's good, lol.
No, sorry, Michelle was not in Heath's league. I don't think he had met that woman yet before he died.
And quite frankly Michelle's attempt to stick it to Heath financially and regarding Matilda was part of the source of the stress he was under.
"No, sorry, Michelle was not in Heath's league"
Adult life isn't high school, there are not "leagues", you can love/like a person despite how they look
"I don't think he had met that woman yet before he died"
I agree on that one. He behave exactly the same with ALL his girlfriends, I think he loved all of them but not one in particular
"Michelle's attempt to stick it to Heath financially and regarding Matilda was part of the source of the stress he was under"
We don't know what really happened.If Michelle was ready to a custody battle against Heath maybe she had her reasons. I remember how well they were doing during BBM promo and then out of nowhere, it was all down hill too suspiciously fast.
How come you pass from total bliss to hell and split in only a few months?? Something weird was happening there,and since nobody here wants to talk about drugs, then another theory could be that Heath was also gay and bearding...
If a similar fallout happens between Reese & Jake, I'll be willing to,at least,consider something like that ;)
Heath was a drug addict. He gave up illegal drugs and replaced them with prescription drugs. It's the way addicts lie to themselves and convince themselves that they've changed. Michelle definitely wasn't his type. She wanted to stay home as a family and raise their daughter. He wanted to party and take drugs. Simple as that.
Heath Ledger was The Devil, I tell you. Really.
He behave exactly the same with ALL his girlfriends, I think he loved all of them but not one in particular
ITA
I think Heath was in love with falling in love. Can't blame him, falling in love is the best thing ever.
A year ago I posted about plans for a Liberace biopic directed by Steven Soderbergh and starring Michael Douglas as the ivory-tickler. Now, there are rumblings that Matt Damon has been cast as Liberace's lover Scott Thorson.
SunMedia reports: "Douglas confirms the duo will team for a Liberace biopic helmed by Steven Soderbergh, who co-produced Douglas’s latest, Solitary Man, and directed Damon in Friday’s whistleblower comedy The Informant! Douglas will portray the flamboyant piano-playing entertainer while Damon will play Scott Thorson, who sued Liberace for palimony even though the superstar insisted he wasn’t gay. 'Matt’s going to be my young lover,' Douglas tells Sun Media. 'Why not? God bless Matt. Hey, it’s easy for me - he’s in his prime. I said to him, ‘Matt, I love you, man. Boy, that Bourne (series) must really be going strong.’ But good for him. He’s right taking chances. All those young guys - (George) Clooney - they’re taking risks … It’s smart trying to mix it up a bit and maintain those franchises and still get to do a picture that turns you on.'"
Towleroad
It’s smart trying to mix it up a bit and maintain those franchises and still get to do a picture that turns you on.
Couldn't agree more!
Matt Damon might be alive and kicking, but who knows after George Clooney is finished with him.
To continue our ever-expanding coverage of hijinks between the two, Clooney is prepping for retaliation against The Informant! star who is semi-responsible for a gay fan's widely publicized stripper-gram last week. The other culprit? Another member of the Ocean's bromance, Brad Pitt.
At the Toronto Film Festival premiere of his new flick Up in the Air, E! News presented Clooney with a very simple question: "What are you going to do to Damon for 'Italy-gate'?"
His response? "I'm going to do something. I've got something big planned."
So there you have it. Damon, you've been warned. Pitt, you should probably watch your back, too.
E! Online
^^^ Awww, I bet Jake would LOVE to play with the big boys :)
Since the beginning, there have always been hierarchies. We all live in them and with them.
There is no evidence that Heath was a drug addict, but nice try.
'Matt’s going to be my young lover,' Douglas tells Sun Media.
Will Jake ever play a gay character again?
"There is no evidence that Heath was a drug addict, but nice try."
The evidence that Ledger was a drug addict was everywhere, from his erratic behavior and drug-filled recreational past to the pile of pills found in his apartment and bedtable when he died and the equally impressive number of drugs found in his system during the autopsy.
He was a good actor and a first-stage drug addict, just like a lot of nutty performers in Hollywood (past and present). Get over it.
"Will Jake ever play a gay character again?"
He's playing one now. The bearding has made him look gayer than ever. Just ask the straight male gamers at D23 if you don't believe me.
The gay character he's playing now is himself.
He even has the fashion accessory of choice for many powerful, wealthy gay men : access to children (biological, borrowed or purchased).
Biological - Ricky Martin
Borrowed - Jake Gyllenhaal
Purchased - Michael Jackson
The bearding has made him look gayer than ever.
*Fuck!*
Michelle Williams Covers ‘Vogue’ October 2009
Michelle Williams is pixie pretty on the October 2009 cover of Vogue. Here’s what the 29-year-old actress said in her interview:
On Heath Ledger’s passing: “I was holding it together by a string and a paper clip in the fall and winter. I didn’t know if I could keep it all together… You console yourself by saying it’s all a deepening process. But it’s wired. After the first year, the pain is less intense; it’s less immediate. But the magical thinking goes away too. And that’s a whole new reckoning. But every time I really miss him and wonder where he’s gone, I just look at [Matilda].”
On reflecting back on the good times: “Brokeback Mountain was an unrepeatable moment in time, a very charmed time in my life. I was in love; I was in a movie I was proud to be a part of, and with a beautiful brand-new baby. Everything was good in that moment.”
On the constant attention from papaprazzi: “It’s because of this tragedy that there’s more paparazzi. That is hard to be graceful and understanding about… It’s hard to be the man and the woman in that [paparazzi] situation. Heath always used to do that for us.”
JJared
Please define "erratic" behavior, and explain how that is evidence of drug use? And where did you find this information about Heath's "drug-filled recreational past"?
Oh, and there was no pile of pills found in his apartment at the time of his death. You might want to go back and read the actual news reports. Those lies were discredited. And could you tell us how 6 traces, traces mind you, of drugs in his system qualifies as an "impressive" amount, especially as some of those drugs had been in his system for many hours ( meaning obviously that he did not take these drugs at one time).
Thousands of people die every year because they don't realize just how long a drug can stay in your system, and will take another prescription which then intearacts fatally with a previous trace.
Perhaps you should get over it.
On reflecting back on the good times: “Brokeback Mountain was an unrepeatable moment in time, a very charmed time in my life. I was in love; I was in a movie I was proud to be a part of, and with a beautiful brand-new baby. Everything was good in that moment.”
Aww. :)
For the interested posters (the others can skip it :) ).
Vogue interview
Heath was in denial about his addiction and his fans are following his lead. If you were his friend you would have been guilty of not seeing what was right in front of your eyes.
She doesn't like the attention, but she covers "Vogue"....
what a flaky!! :(
^^Yeah, but to be fair, it's for movie promotion.
I don't dislike Michelle, but why is she being treated like Heath's widow when they had been separated for months before he died, and he had moved on?
And really, the only reason any pap is interested in Michelle is because she has Matilda. She may eventually become well known for her own work, but she hasn't reached that status yet.
Sorry, but it really feels like the connection to Heath is being used for some pr.
Michelle has already had her say about Heath. Quite frankly, I am more interested in what, if anything, Jake will say come promo time.
^^But maybe Jake will decline to talk about Heath? I guess we'll see.
Michelle is very talented. Being well-known, or a celebrity, has nothing to do with talent.
ITA. Michelle is more talented than Jake can ever hope to be.
I respectfully disagree!
Michelle never loses the chance to mention Heath and then inmediately she talks about Matilda.
Craving for more privacy, my ass...
(she looks good on those photos,though) ;)
Michelle is one-tone actress, she plays Alma in all her parts.
"to be fair, it's for movie promotion"
Her part in SI is not very much important and the movie is on hold, so this cover is only for the sake of her image.
And she might not be Heath's official widow but she is the mother of his baby and she will be connected to him 4ever.
Too bad, Heath should have had Matilda with Naomi Watts and he would be alive today if so...or maybe not, what the fuck do I know anyway :(
"Heath was in denial about his addiction and his fans are following his lead. If you were his friend you would have been guilty of not seeing what was right in front of your eyes."
IA. Massive denial, right down to the prescription medicines found all over his place AND in his body. You could see his death, and his Oscar, from a mile away. Deal with it.
If Heath was a drug addict, I sure some evidence of this would have turned up in the medical examiner's report.
It didn't.
So you might want to come up with something other than rumors and suppostion to try to besmirch Heath.
You really ought to save the stupidity for your speculations about Jake.
You don't always end up having babies with the person you were the most in love with.
Naomi seemed much more in love with Heath (with whom she wanted kids too) than with Liev Schreiber. But Liev seems good to her and a good dad. That's what counts. :)
3:39, try reading 3:11's post.
You're the one in denial.
You could see his death, and his Oscar, from a mile away.
Heath deserved the Oscar. There was buzz about his performance even before he passed. It's only the second Oscar an actor got after he died.
I'm not commenting whether he had a drug problem or not. Cause I don't know.
I think the medical examiners report speaks for itself. Heath died from an overdose of prescription drugs. You don't really think that was the first time he was taking them, do you? You can't stop one addictive behavior and start another without running into trouble. Keep up the denial. Friends who think like you like you enabled him.
What is it about Heath that bring the lying haters out?
Alive or dead, Heath really seems to get to some people. It almost seems personal. What is that about?
IA. Massive denial, right down to the prescription medicines found all over his place AND in his body. You could see his death, and his Oscar, from a mile away. Deal with it.
LOL, the only thing you can spot a mile away is your BITTERNESS. Go ahead make things up, the toxicology report doesn't lie. BTW, there was Oscar buzz about his performance months before he died, no amount of your spinning can change it.
3:57 PM, I want to know too.
Heath suffered from severe back pain, anxiety and insomnia. Of course, he was taking drugs for them. Nobody has denied that. You want to make it seem as if he was taking drugs just to get high as opposed to treating his medical conditions.
You have no evidence that he was ever addicted to either illegal or presciption drugs, but you somehow think if you parrot that line enough, it will take hold.
It won't work.
Denial, Denial, Denial.
Lying hater, Lying hater, Lying hater.
Yeah, some of the anti-Heath crap does seem personal, and that was before he died too.Does anybody have a clue as to what's behind that cause I'd sure like to know.
I'm not naive, Heath did illegal drugs, but I don't think he was an addict, rather an occassional user. And supposedly he quit the illegal stuff and booze a few months before he died. I do believe that he took the prescription meds for his health issues not to get high.
JMO.
4:06, #1, LOL!!!
Drug addics don't take pills just to get "high", people with a physical illnes that abuse medication have an adiction problem too.
Some of you sound as if you think only rockers, marginals or gangs people do drugs.
"Keep up the denial. Friends who think like you enabled him."
3:56 - I totally agree. Drugs AND denial killed Heath.
Drugs AND denial killed Heath.
How do you know?
4:06 PM#2
My guesses:
1)Heath wasn't gay and we here all know straight men are nasty. No wait, he was gay and bearding with Michelle.
2)He was very and multi talented.
3)His performance in BBM was more acclaimed than Jake's (but I loved them both equally)
3)Jake crushed on him.
Any other ideas?
Obvious haters like 3:49 PM annoy me. You saw his death and Oscar comming? Give me a break! Maybe you could see his Oscar, because there was Oscar buzz before he died, but his death...give me a break!
There is no other reason why Heath broke off his engagement with MW and left her and ,more important,Matilda. Even if he really didn't love Michelle he would have stay w/her to be close of his daughter. It was HER who kicked him out and the only explanation is he was doing drugs (prescribed pills,IMO) He had a family,a "wife",a daughter he loved,an incredible successful carrer and friends who loved him.
Why he was so depressed about? Global warming?? C'mon, HE WAS ON DRUGS!!!!
Fans in denial is not so terrible, but the fact that his closer people only wanted to see the "golden boy" image of him is what couldn't prevent his death.
And why some of you think calling Heath an addict means he is hated?? Why would anyone hate a druggie who never met?
and what is Toothy doing lately? No coffe/shopping//hand holding photo-op were out today?
4:19 PM - I think some have a problem with Jake's crush and/or admiration for Heath. Jake only should crush and admire Austin!!!
And then, I think, there are others who are jealous because Heath was a respected actor and try to diminish his Oscar win.
These two groups are too obvious really.
There is no other reason why Heath broke off his engagement with MW and left her and ,more important,Matilda. Even if he really didn't love Michelle he would have stay w/her to be close of his daughter. It was HER who kicked him out and the only explanation is he was doing drugs (prescribed pills,IMO) He had a family,a "wife",a daughter he loved,an incredible successful carrer and friends who loved him. Why he was so depressed about? Global warming?? C'mon, HE WAS ON DRUGS!!!!
What are you babbling about????
4:24 PM, ITA. It's sad that even dead Heath still represents a threat to some posters. Come to think about it, it’s a compliment to him. ;)
What are you babbling about????
^^
Hey, take it easy..was just sharing some thoughts
4:22 PM - why did Michelle say, she didn't expect Heath to break her heart? IMO, it's him who dumped her. Why should he stay with a woman he doesn't love? According to Gilliam, Heath realized they were a mismatch during BBM award season alreaedy. He stayed as long as he did for baby M. , but he couldn't any longer. If his occassionl drug use was a problem for her, why did she have a baby with him then? He most likely did drugs even at the time they hooked up.
Heath said to his journalist pal in Perth, that his Christmas holidays (2007, months before he died) were one of the best holidays in years for him, which he spent with family, pals and his new gf, Gemma Ward. Michelle probably knew he already dated/went out with Gemma and that's why she made it difficult for him to see the kid and that's when she held his drug use against him and threatened him to go for sole custody. That's probably why he stopped the illegal drugs alltogether, out of fear to lose the kid.
For the record, I do think he did illegal drugs occasionally, but I don't think he was an addict.
the hate must have some kind of connection to Jake. Just not sure what the connection is; otherwise, it just seems too random and hysterical.
Especially when it based solely on rumors, conjecture and distortions.
the hate must have some kind of connection to Jake
Absolutely.
and what is Toothy doing lately? No coffe/shopping//hand holding photo-op were out today?
We had twitter pics (with Chinny) and sightings (family and Chinny) of Jake in NYC.
Jake is probably back at work already. I'm expecting some "nice" Reeke pics on the LAOD set in the near future, same like on the film set of her latest film.
There is no proof that Heath was a drug addict. It's a facade the haters hide behind because they can't come clean with the real reason they hate the man. Just what does Heath represent to them; what is it about him that they fear? I can only think that it is somehow connected to Jake.
People are really blind if they think Heath didn't have a problem with drugs. Just because the pusher was a doctor, just like with Michael Jackson. People with money can always find a doctor to meet their needs, especially celebrties, and they can tell themselves "I just couldn't sleep, I'm not an addict."
Has nothing to do with hate or fear. Just stating the facts.
Has nothing to do with hate or fear. Just stating the facts.
No, facts come with proof and you have no such thing. You can preach and patronize all you want, you know you’re just taking rumors and spinning them.
And it has to do with both. The hate comes from fear of what I don’t know.
You can preach and patronize all you want, you know you’re just taking rumors and spinning them.
I mean this regarding your other posts.
"People are really blind if they think Heath didn't have a problem with drugs. Just because the pusher was a doctor, just like with Michael Jackson"
I couldn't agree more. Sometimes it seems that famous people can get away even with murder just because thay are celebrities (hello,OJ)
And then,we all wonder why the stars think they are above others
5:03 : Ditto. Fans should stop looking for ulterior motives. Heath had a serious drug-dependency problem. Celebrate his talent but don't air-brush away his flaws.
In Hollyweird Winona Ryder is a clepto, Heath Ledger is an insomniac and the Olsen Twins are businesswomen (when we all know they sale drugs)
Apparently , the ones who have no money are the only ones commiting fails
^^5:03, 5:09, please don't talk like you know what was going on with Heath.
In Hollyweird Winona Ryder is a clepto, Heath Ledger is an insomniac and the Olsen Twins are businesswomen (when we all know they sale drugs)
Apparently , the ones who have no money are the only ones commiting fails
Heath sold drugs? WTF?
Celebrate his talent but don't air-brush away his flaws.
Why are you being a hypocrite?
What in the hell has someone being an insomniac (a physical and medical condition)got to do with someone selling drugs?
Who bought Heath's drugs?
Probably his friend Jake!
We are looking for motives because people are attempting to denigrated a dead man based on lies and rumors; we are just trying to figure out why.
The fact that people can post lies about how Heath died and why when the truth is readily available indicates that there is something else behind the smears.
5:18 PM, for fucks sake get with the program. Heath was a drug dealer!!!!!!!
The hate for Heath existed long before he died. I could just never quite understand what it stemmed from. Even before people soured on Jake, they hated Heath. I just never could quite figure out why. It seemed really out of proportion to the reasons alleged.
5:18 PM, for fucks sake get with the program. Heath was a drug dealer!!!!!!!
Ok, ok and Jake was his best customer. Heath gave him good stuff to get through the casting couch process with Bruckheimer.
What a great friend!
Winona Ryder (thief) = kleptomaniac
Ledger (pills user) = Insomniac
Famous people is not measured with the same pole
I'm grateful, it was amazing!
Do you think the Heath hate has something to do with Jake's crush on him? I don't know if Jake really did crush on Heath or not, but if he did, I don't know why that would bother people so much or why hate Heath for that?
So, Heath took drugs to cause his insomnia and while he was awake he decided to kill time by selling drugs to Jake so he could have sex with producers?
Just want to be sure I have this straight (so to speak).
LOL
You got it right 5:32 PM!
I don't know why it bothers people so much but I think Jake's crush ( although not Heath’s fault) is a big part of the issue they have with Heath.
IMO Michelle looks fantastic on the Vogue cover. The photo has had little or no photoshopping done to it. Maybe some of you don't think she looks great simply because you're used to seeing unreal perfection.
Reeke happy family photo op magazine full-feature = foiled again!
^^^ Fortunately, no one will miss Reeke! lol
5:42 PM - talking about crush. I think there was mutual admiration and attraction, probably more on Jake's side though.
Why some posters have a problem with that possibility, IDK. And frankly I don't care. :)
VF excerpt:
"Whether or not Williams wants to talk about it, it's clear that she loved Ledger and that her grieving has been twofold: There was death, but before that there was the loss of her partner and the dream of an intact family, a loss that Williams, it's pretty clear, did not want."
So Heath left HER.
^^Yup.
IF Heath really left her, she would never say it to a magazine reporter. She wouldn't like her daughter be aware of that :´(
^^But she "cried" in the Elle magazine shortly before Heath died, how she never expected he'll break her heart. And Gilliam even told the world that Heath was over her even during BBM promo time. Believe me Matilda will find out. Sad but true.
Read the whole interview 6:09, it's clear Heath left Michelle. She doesn't say it in so many words but you can tell by the way she talks about it.
Heath was just not that into her. Sometimes a reason for a break up is that simple. Not even getting "accidentally" pregnant can prevent that.
Thousands of people die every year because they don't realize just how long a drug can stay in your system, and will take another prescription which then intearacts fatally with a previous trace.
Absolutely true. It depends on if/where they are absorbed, if they are water-soluble or stored in organs and tissue. It's like how you can take a lot of Vitamin C because it flushes through the system but others like Iron are stored for a certain amount of time and if too much is taken an overdose/damage can occur.
If you do research on annual fatalities caused by accidental Rx/OTC overdoses or interactions you'll be surprised. The average annual number is around 6,000. Heath was just one of them and just because you never hear about the other 5,999 doesn't mean that they don't exist.
The huge number of fatalities caused by accidental OD of acetaminophen (aka Tylenol, the "safe" OTC) is one of the reasons the FDA was strongly advised to change Vicodin and similar drugs that contain acetaminophen. People would take a few Tylenol along with a Vicodin or two every few hours for pain, not realizing the huge amount of acetaminophen they were ingesting was fatal. The FDA was advised that it would be better to have a separate Rx for the two components of Vicodin so that the consumer can keep a more accurate track of what they are taking. So far this hasn't happened but one big change was made: All Rxs with acetaminophen as a component have a warning label cautioning against mixing it with an OTC acetaminophen drug.
Anyway sorry to go OT and get on a soapbox. I just want to say that unfortunately what happened to Heath isn't all that unusual. The difference is, you heard about it.
I just don't see where is so clear it was him who did the dumping
I'm not saying it wasn't like that,though. Just that is still a mistery why they were so happy and yet they split out of nowhere. And if he was so eager to be away from her, why the mental depression he endured later? The custody battle never got the chance to be a big issue when he died!!!
I guess proving Heath WANTED the split, means he didn't take drugs to deal with the pain, so he didn't have a serious problem with medication
oh well....
Brokies hated Heath and Michelle in the beginning because it screwed up thei RPS fantasies J&H=J&E. When Heath died, Jake was with Reese, so they soured on Jake and put Heath on a pedastal.
What?? Brokies hated Heath??? What did I miss?
You missed our trolly.
Brokies hated Heath and Michelle in the beginning because it screwed up thei RPS fantasies J&H=J&E. When Heath died, Jake was with Reese, so they soured on Jake and put Heath on a pedastal.
Very good observation.
But Heath/Michelle was nothing to worry about. Old Heath fans knew it won't last. It was too obvious.
If Heath wanted Jake, not even Michelle would have stopped him.
Did ever anything happen between H & J? No one knows! It's something only Jake knows and he'll NEVER share.
A drunk mutual hand job in a trailer barely means anything in the boy's world ;)
Brokies hated Heath and Michelle in the beginning
That never happened and you know it.
I guess proving Heath WANTED the split, means he didn't take drugs to deal with the pain, so he didn't have a serious problem with medication
Bullshit. If you don't want to believe Heath broke up with Michelle suit yourself but stop spinning.
WHERE is settled in MW interview it was him who dumped her & baby M?
i'm waiting....
^^Is reading comprehension too difficult for you?
Vogue, October 2009
A Field Guide to Getting Lost
The brilliant and beguiling Michelle Williams talks to Sally Singer about keeping it together when one's world falls apart.
Photographed by Mario Testino.
Michelle Williams these days divides her time between her house in Brooklyn and a house in upstate New York. The location of the latter property is a secret, for understandable reasons: Since the death in 2008 of Heath Ledger, the father of her daughter, Matilda, the beautiful and shy actress has inevitably found herself at the center of a morbid cult and, most pertinent, the object of the tabloids' banal, destructive intrusiveness. She has been extremely reluctant, as a consequence, to give interviews of any sort, even to promote her film work—the most recent example of which is Martin Scorsese's Shutter Island, in which she plays (not inappropriately) a ghost. Williams told me, "I didn't know what my boundaries were for a long time, which made interviews feel very unsafe. I can talk about grief, because that's mine; about single parenting; about trying to balance work and kids. But what I don't have to talk about is what happened between Heath and me in our relationship."
On a more concrete level, speaking with Williams involves meeting her at a variety of neutral locations, urban and rural. In my case, the process culminated in a visit to the upstate house, where she and her three-year-old daughter have spent a part of the last year trying to restore equilibrium to lives rocked by heartbreak and grief. "I have been severely accident-prone over the past twelve months. I fell downstairs, broke a toe, put my fingers in a blender—seriously distracted." While Matilda was in a play group, her mother would be faced with the stark existential question "How am I going to get through the day?" Often, what she did was "cry, nap, sit and stare, try to figure out what to make her for dinner, talk to friends on the phone." She says, "I was holding it together by a string and a paper clip in the fall and winter. I didn't know if I could keep it all together." There are photos in the house of Gurumayi. Williams is not a follower and has never been to the ashram, but one day, she reached out to friends, and they arrived with the photos, constructed a "little altar," and took her through a rite of mourning. ("I wish we had rituals about grief," she says. "I wish it were still the Victorian times, and we could go from black to gray to mauve to pink, and have rings with hair in them.") The photos are a memento of that caring moment—memento because Williams is now in a different place. "Friends never really left me alone when we came up here," she says. "Women and kids really got us through the winter. One got me gardening in the spring, and that's when it started to turn around. I think it's something about being in nature that made it more possible. I remember being on my hands and knees. The ground was cold and muddy. I pushed back the dead leaves and saw the bright green shoots of spring. Under all this decay something was growing. Caring for the garden reminded me to care for myself." The story of Michelle Williams, it turns out, is not a story of a young artist derailed by tragedy and public scrutiny.
A confession: My interest in Williams was not piqued by recent sad events or by the preceding happier events, when the papers were filled with snapshots of her and Ledger strolling with their baby daughter in sunlit brownstone Brooklyn. I fell for her when she cashed in her Dawson's Creek starletdom for an Off-Broadway play called Killer Joe and for Wim Wenders's Land of Plenty, a brilliant, grave, and indeed brave investigation of post-9/11 America in all of its xenophobia and pathos. (Just imagine one of the Gossip Girls doing likewise.) In her subsequent work, most notably Brokeback Mountain (for which she earned an Oscar nomination) and most movingly Wendy and Lucy (an unsentimental look at white American poverty, directed by Kelly Reichardt), the 29-year-old Williams has established herself as the least flashy and most emotionally riveting actress of her generation. Says Sir Ben Kingsley, who first worked with her in Species, when she was twelve, and is her costar in Shutter Island, "There's something elemental and crucial about her. Because she is so intelligent, she gets to the basic issue of her character. She's not blanket-bombing it with fussy acting or guessing. She's very in the moment, which I very much admire, both in acting and in life, I reckon."
Although she has been an actress since the age of ten (she was born in Montana and raised in San Diego, from which her parents would take her to Los Angeles for auditions), was legally emancipated at the age of fifteen from her middle-class family ("I didn't grow up in a house with a lot of cool music or paintings, but my dad had good books"), and never went to college, Williams is clearly intellectually resourceful and in possession of a rich personal hinterland. Ryan Gosling, who plays her husband in Derek Cianfrance's forthcoming Blue Valentine, says, "She's like Montana. If you want to get anywhere in Montana, you have to sit tight. You're on Montana time. It's very beautiful, but it's vast. If you want to get somewhere with Michelle, you really have to be patient. She's so vast. You really have to sit back and enjoy the view. There's so much going on internally, so much ground to cover."
She is bookish and cerebral. "In North Carolina [where Dawson's Creek was shot], I'd sit on the floor of Barnes & Noble and work my way through the shelves." She read, among others, Philip Roth: "I like American Pastoral the best, but Sabbath's Theater did my head in." (Says the artist Dan Estabrook, a dear old friend, "Her time on Dawson's Creek was marked by reading and reading and reading—she was always recommending books to bartenders.") Nowadays "I read poetry. I find a poet I like and then read the poets they like." Hence Galway Kinnell and Mary Oliver and Frank O'Hara. She is a huge fan, musically, of Leonard Cohen and of Antony and the Johnsons. Currently, in preparation for Reichardt's next movie, which is set on the Oregon Trail in pioneer times, she is plowing through a bedside stack of tomes about the American frontier. There is also an open volume of Doris Lessing in Matilda's playroom, and Williams warmly recommended to me (as she has to many of her friends) Rebecca Solnit's elegant meditation on loss and its possibilities, A Field Guide to Getting Lost.
Not surprisingly, six months after Ledger's death, the grief-stricken Williams turned to Joan Didion's The Year of Magical Thinking. "I just don't see the upside to this," she says. "You console yourself by saying it's all a deepening process. But it's weird. After the first year, the pain is less intense; it's less immediate. But the magical thinking goes away, too. And that's a whole new reckoning. But every time I really miss him and wonder where he's gone, I just look at her."
Whether or not Williams wants to talk about it, it's clear that she loved Ledger and that her grieving has been twofold: There was death, but before that there was the loss of her partner and the dream of an intact family, a loss that Williams, it's pretty clear, did not want. "Brokeback Mountain was an unrepeatable moment in time, a very charmed time in my life. I was in love; I was in a movie I was proud to be a part of, and with a beautiful brand-new baby. Everything was good in that moment." After the split, she did everything to get away, including taking on a film in Sweden. "I just didn't want to be at home. Geography is a great solution for heartbreak."
Particularly if the paparazzi are recording your and your child's every move. Williams's need for privacy and emotional space only grew, of course, after Ledger's death. "Because he died—it's so hard to say it, now that it's a fact—it's because of this tragedy that there's more paparazzi. That is hard to be graceful and understanding about." Brooklyn was and remains difficult on a mundane level, too. At her local coffee shop, a little girl asked Williams, "What's her name?" "Matilda." The girl said to Matilda, entirely innocently, "What's it like being famous? Are you so sad that your daddy died like Michael Jackson?" "That girl was six," Williams says without rancor. Afterward, mother and child had a discussion about third-party attention. "It's because people really loved your daddy that they want to take your picture, to know you're all right" is what she tells Matilda. "My reaction to it is going to be her reaction to it," Williams says. "It's an OK model for her to see that her mom has boundaries. It's OK for me to be upset and to raise my voice. But it's an ongoing struggle. It's hard to be the man and the woman in that [paparazzi] situation. Heath always used to do that for us." When I ask Estabrook how his friend has changed over the past eighteen months, he replies, "There's been a necessary but unfortunate hardening. But she's snapped into a philosophy: She will do whatever it takes to give Matilda as normal a life as possible."
This is the perspective that being upstate offers. At home, Williams wears faded cutoffs, a checked shirt from Steven Alan, and a stripy men's cardigan from A.P.C. Whether she's in the sticks or in the boroughs, her style is consistently low-key, classic, and faintly nostalgic. She likes clothes that construct narratives. "My favorite things that I see her wear are when I think she's creating childhood memories for Matilda," says Daphne Javitch, a costumer who became Williams's great friend when they bonded over the same navy peacoat by Boy. "So much of her style has to do with the fact that she's a soulful, practical, beautiful kind of person. Can she garden in it? Can she get a bagel in it? Because she's such a lovely, smart person, she looks adorable."
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