Saturday, 9 October 2010
Love and Obstacles
October 4, 2010
This past weekend, the New Yorker held its annual festival, which -- as always -- includes a multitude of speakers and panels discussing a variety of topics. Top players in all professions were represented, including Stephen King, Malcolm Gladwell, Jake Gyllenhaal and Regina Spektor -- all chatting about themselves and their areas of expertise. Our favorite, though, would have to have been Cynthia Nixon on the panel discussion "Love and Obstacles: The Case for Gay Marriage."
Ms. Nixon, who is most known for her role has Miranda Hobbes in Sex and the City, and now is engaged to education activist Christine Marinoni, stole our hearts with her rather calm, well made argument. Not only does she make a good case, she makes an example of how to make said point.
“Gay people who want to marry have no desire to redefine marriage in any way. When women got the vote, they did not redefine voting. When African-Americans got the right to sit at a lunch counter alongside white people, they did not redefine eating out. They were simply invited to the table. And that is all we want to do. We have no desire to change marriage. We want to be entitled to not only the same privileges, but the same responsibilities as straight people.”
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James and Busy story
It says on his IMDb page that he admitted to "not getting along" with her.
I read that too, but funnily now it says they are friends. ;)
James Franco:
During the show’s run, three of the freaks—Franco, Seth Rogen, and Jason Segel—would meet at Segel’s house on Saturday mornings for extra, unofficial rehearsals. “I mean, they weren’t the most rigorous rehearsals,” says Franco. “For the most part we just liked hanging out.” In the end, he says, it was Rogen and Segel who became really good friends. At the time, Segel was dating Linda Cardellini, who was friends with Franco’s on-screen girlfriend, Busy Philipps, who had a problem with Franco. “And so I think Jason took her side and thought I was a jerk,” he says. “I’ll admit I was not a team player. A lot of it, I think, just had to do with being obnoxious when the camera was on someone else. Maybe I’d eat a banana in the background that would take focus away from other actors. I didn’t think about it that way, but now I could say, ‘Look, the scene’s not about me, it’s about them, just chill out, James. Don’t eat a fucking banana.’ ”
James and Busy story
I actually like James more now for being honest about his obnoxious behavior back then. Thanks. ;)
I actually like James more now for being honest about his obnoxious behavior back then. Thanks. ;)
You are welcome. Lets hope for his co-stars he now changed his obnoxious ways. :)
I read that too, but funnily now it says they are friends. ;)
Some friends drift apart. Some people who once didn't get along patch things up. It's called life. ;)
Some people who once didn't get along patch things up. It's called life. ;)
Of course. Maybe they are even best friends now? ;)
I think James kind of looks like Heath and is an interesting guy. Since Jake and Busy are BFF and Busy and James are BFF (yes, I can spot sarcasm, 5:05 PM) Jake should ask her to help them hook up. ;)
Jake better try to find some good projects. I wonder, isn't he getting any good offers or is he just too choosy?
Both?
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Kate said...
I think RDJ's a gifted actor, but wasn't he the one who came up with that corny line about Jake being "wet, dark, and wild"?
Shut up!
LOL! Sorry, but that line just makes me cringe it's so corny.
Anne was the real shit there.
She still is. I think many critics don't take her seriously because of her past movies. RGM was a "surprise" performance for them. It's like they just take actors seriously who did nothing but drama. Anne is very intelligent and researches her roles very well, hence she brings authenticity to them. I remember being impressed by her intelligence and the analysis of her character Lureen during BBM press. Very underrated actress.
Anne's time will come soon :)
October 29 - Jake Out On His Motorcycle In Beverly Hills
How did paparazzi recognized him?
Perhaps they followed him from his home?
We got only 2 pictures with Busy and paparazzi are after him? Doesn't add up.
Maybe the talk about Anne's LAOD performance was a case of too much too soon, especially in a year when the competition among female actors is very keen.
How did paparazzi recognized him?
Jake needs new clothes, he's wearing the same outfit he was wearing the first time we saw his motorcycle (lunch with Stephen).
Maybe the talk about Anne's LAOD performance was a case of too much too soon, especially in a year when the competition among female actors is very keen.
That's why it's better to watch a movie first before starting rumors and getting hopes up.
How did paparazzi recognized him?
Jake needs new clothes, he's wearing the same outfit he was wearing the first time we saw his motorcycle (lunch with Stephen).
LOL.
Poor Jake... flop after flop and now he has no money to buy himself some new clothes :(
Daddy doesn't need new clothes - I need more food!
And I'm really going to need my college fund!
Jake/Busy. No torrid affair between them, or maybe there is and they don't give a shit about being photographed together near a glass window.
Okay, I know I'm going to be ridiculed with the BT disbelievers, but think about it for a moment folks, without preconceived notions. Maybe, Jake hanging out with Busy Phillips over this past year, has something to do with the fact that Jake has a child, as well. Busy has been a friend with Michelle for many years, long before Brokeback. Yet, it's only been after Busy had a child that Jake is suddenly tight with her.
Most notably, Jake showed up at little Birdie's birthday party this past August. Now why would Jake go to a little girl's birthday party...unless maybe he has something in common, like a child of his own who just might be friends with Birdie? Jake knew people would think that might look weird so he carried Ramona into the party to provide a visible reason for him to be there. Yet, I've never heard of Maggie and Busy being close friends (although we will probably see planted stories in the near future that they have been buds for ages).
Later on, we heard that Maggie was there, yet Jake was the one who wanted to be photographed carrying Ramona into the party. Just a thought. I don't know if there is a Baby Tile, but Jake's sudden closeness to Busy has perplexed me for awhile.
That's why it's better to watch a movie first before starting rumors and getting hopes up.
Agreed.
BT said...
And I'm really going to need my college fund!
Poor BT. If they don't let you out of the basement by then, there's always on-line classes!
Awwww, poor Atti, he's really hungry :)
If they don't let you out of the basement by then, there's always on-line classes!
Fuck!
9:30 PM - one can never know. But Busy brought Birdie along, why didn't Jake bring BT? If he did, why did it stay unnoticed?
I personally think they got closer because Busy became some kind of buffer between Jake and Michelle. I think everytime Michelle was in L.A. and visited Jake with Matilda she brought Busy along. That's why they became closer. My theory.
The Dilemma: Why Ron Howard & GLAAD Are Both Right And Both Wrong
When I saw the first trailer for The Dilemma, opening with Vince Vaughn proclaiming “electric cars are gay,” I remember thinking first, “Ugh, not another lame gay joke,” thinking second, “Ugh, not another lame boneheaded dudes comedy,” and thinking third, “Whoa, Ron Howard directed this?” And then I didn’t think about it at all — the trailer and the movie left my brain immediately. In fact, if it hadn’t been for Anderson Cooper obliquely referencing the trailer while discussing the recent rash of coverage of anti-gay bullying and gay youth suicides on The Ellen DeGeneres Show, I don’t think I would have given another moment’s thought to The Dilemma — save the decision not to see it when it comes out in theaters Jan. 14.
Instead, thanks to Mr. Cooper, GLAAD, Universal Pictures, Vince Vaughn, and now Ron Howard, I’ve given many a moment’s thought to this movie, more so than it likely deserves. And what really cheeses my Jell-o is that yesterday’s latest development — Howard’s statement to The Los Angeles Times that he’s not pulling the “electric cars are gay” joke from the finished film, and GLAAD’s recrimination of that decision — has proven to be the development most worth thinking about, and discussing at length, in this whole protracted media kerfluffle. Because, dagnabit, it turns out Howard and GLAAD are both right, and both wrong, in ways that make plain just where we are as a culture when it comes to censorship, sensitivity and protracted media kerfluffles.
First, Howard is absolutely right when he says, “I defend the right for some people to express offense at a joke as strongly as I do the right for that joke to be in a film. But if storytellers, comedians, actors and artists are strong armed into making creative changes, it will endanger comedy as both entertainment and a provoker of thought.” Howard also notes that “I don’t strip my films of everything that I might personally find inappropriate,” nor should he. Howard should be able to make whatever movie he wants — which is to say, whatever a studio wants to pay for. And Universal should be able to release whatever it wants — which is to say, whatever movie theaters want to put on their screens. And we, as moviegoers, have the right protest whatever we want — which is to say, not shell out money to see bad and/or offensive movies.
This is such a fundamental part of the American way of life, it feels a bit odd to have to spell it out. It’s also why the fine folks at GLAAD calling upon Howard and Universal to cut their gay electric cars joke isn’t just wrong, it’s wrongheaded. Condemn the joke, sure. Organize a boycott of the movie, even. But demanding filmmakers change their films to fit your worldview (however just and honorable that worldview may be) does your cause few favors. How would GLAAD feel if Focus on the Family demanded director Lisa Cholodenko cut all the same-sex smooching in last summer’s The Kids Are All Right? That’s a specious comparison, I know, but that’s pretty much what “a slippery slope” is meant to evoke.
Maybe it has something to do with Matilda's birthday, since Jake and Busy are both her godparents.
Out of curiosity, took a peek over to OMG for a weeks' worth of comments, and became nauseous. Literally.
Of course, one would hope we can all at least understand where GLAAD’s overreaching is coming from. It has been a particularly distressing few months for gay Americans, thanks especially to how visible gay suicides have been in the national media. (And let’s be clear: According to statistics from the Trevor Project, we’re not living through a surge in gay suicides and homophobic bullying; we’re living through a surge in coverage of gay suicides and homophobic bullying.) In his statement condemning Ron Howard’s decision to keep the gay electric cars joke in The Dilemma, GLAAD president Jarrett Barios was nonetheless right on the mark when he noted that the uproar surrounding the film ”will help schools, media and parents understand the impact of the word ‘gay’ being used as a pejorative.”
One would also hope Howard, an Oscar-winning filmmaker with a well-earned reputation in Hollywood as the nicest of nice guys, would perhaps be keen to step into that discussion. Instead, to the L.A. Times, he offers the explanation that Vince Vaughn’s character Ronny Valentine “has a mouth that sometimes gets him into trouble and he definitely flirts with the line of what’s okay to say. He tries to do what’s right but sometimes falls short. Who can’t relate to that?” Howard goes to call Ronny “flawed,” “far from perfect,” “outrageous,” “offensive,” and “inappropriate.” At no time, however, does he appear to acknowledge, let alone understand, that making Ronny outrageous and offensive by in part having him crack a casual gay joke says volumes about what we as a culture are willing to tolerate in outrageous and offensive studio comedy characters. Ronny didn’t compare electric cars to black people, or Jews, or the physically challenged. Why? Because the audience would’ve hated him for it, and he wouldn’t have won our sympathies as the film’s protagonist. But calling electric cars “gay”? Apparently, no worries there.
Indeed, Howard appears more annoyed that his film is taking heat for a sin perpetrated by “many movies and TV shows that preceded it that have even more provocative characterizations and language…we never expected [the joke] to represent our intentions or the point of view of the movie or those of us who made it.” Well, first of all, if you don’t want a gay joke to speak for your movie, don’t put it in your trailer. Second of all, yes, movies like The Hangover, Hot Tub Time Machine, and Wild Hogs have all served up crasser homophobia as fodder for comedy. But that doesn’t suddenly absolve The Dilemma for its watered-down homophobic humor.
Yeesh. This is exhausting. At the risk of being Captain Hindsight, if only GLAAD had put out a simple statement denouncing The Dilemma‘s gay joke and asking audiences not to see the movie, and if only Ron Howard had responded with, “You know what, my bad, it was in poor taste, I’ll strive to do better,” and if only GLAAD had replied by thanking Howard for his candor, we all could have been spared this wearying, month-long back-and-forth. Put another way, if everyone had behaved with the kind of clear-eyed honesty and great good humor displayed in this fantastic (and hilariously NSFW) scene from FX’s Louie, we would have all truly learned the role comedy can play in, to quote Howard, “pointing out differences and unifying us through laughter.”
9:49 PM #2 OMG - why?
I fell off the wagon. ;)
personally think they got closer because Busy became some kind of buffer between Jake and Michelle
Why would Jake need a "buffer" between him and Michelle? He's friends with both. Jake started hanging out with Busy in 2009-10. The only question I'm asking is why all of a sudden is there a one-on-one relationship? I believe that birthday party this past August had nothing to do with Michelle, Matilda or Ramona. And, I have no idea why OMG is being brought up. Pretty lame counter to a reasonable theory.
You know, I find it interesting that often when someone mentions something particularly controversial (in this case BT) a huge, often times off topic comment like ONTD above is posted. Just an observation.
Why would Jake need a "buffer" between him and Michelle? He's friends with both. Jake started hanging out with Busy in 2009-10. The only question I'm asking is why all of a sudden is there a one-on-one relationship? I believe that birthday party this past August had nothing to do with Michelle, Matilda or Ramona. And, I have no idea why OMG is being brought up. Pretty lame counter to a reasonable theory.
I'm not the poster who brought up OMG, just to make that clear.
I had the impression that Jake was more friends with Heath than with Michelle and maybe Michelle is more comfortable bringing Busy along who maybe gets along better with Jake? (BT believers will write the following off) Another factor might be that Matilda would be bored during her stay with childless Jake, so bringing along Birdie would be more fun for her. Maybe they were in touch even before 2009, but it intensified later through Michelle and Matilda? As for the birhday party, Busy probably knew that Ramona was in town and invited her to the party. Why not?
What's your point, 10:09PM? btw, the controversy about "The Dilemma" was first posted about yesterday with a link to Towleroad. Since when are gay and lesbian rights issues considered off-topic.
What's your point, 10:09PM?
It's pretty clear what I mean. People were talking about Busy's and Jake's realtionship and the moment someone speculated about maybe they have children in common, we get over 50 lines of an ONTD article copy and pasted instead of a few lines describing the topic and maybe a link that people could click on. I've seen this before, but decided to finally comment about it since it was so obvious this time around.
I really can't imagine anyone sitting all day by computer waiting for BT or similar discussion,long post always ready to distract WFT2.
I believe that birthday party this past August had nothing to do with Michelle, Matilda or Ramona.
Ramona was there. We have pictures.
Another factor might be that Matilda would be bored during her stay with childless Jake, so bringing along Birdie would be more fun for her.
Sorry, but that has got to be the most ridiculous theory I've ever heard. I'm not the original poster, but I've got to ask what did "bored" Matilda do when Jake visited Michelle from 2005-2008? And, if Ramona was in town and Busy just decided to invite her to the party at the last minute, why did Jake attend too? He had a hankering for some birthday cake?
why did Jake attend too?
3 year old kids attend birthday parties on their own?
if only GLAAD had put out a simple statement denouncing The Dilemma‘s gay joke and asking audiences not to see the movie
Nah, that would be wrong.
Maybe it has something to do with Matilda's birthday, since Jake and Busy are both her godparents.
Out of curiosity, took a peek over to OMG for a weeks' worth of comments, and became nauseous. Literally.
I fell off the wagon. ;)
Do you really think Special K and other OMGers don't know you twoface her site over here? It's a wide open secret.
Comments like those two are quite nauseating themselves.
11:24, who are you talking about?
Maybe, Jake hanging out with Busy Phillips over this past year, has something to do with the fact that Jake has a child, as well. Busy has been a friend with Michelle for many years, long before Brokeback. Yet, it's only been after Busy had a child that Jake is suddenly tight with her.
That would be an interesting theory if there was something, anything else suggesting that Jake has a kid.
Jake/Busy. No torrid affair between them, or maybe there is and they don't give a shit about being photographed together near a glass window.
Trolly, please keep posting your comical delusions, we need a good laugh =D
Do you really think Special K and other OMGers don't know you twoface her site over here? It's a wide open secret
LOL at you. What do you think this is? Girl scouts? Run along, mommy is calling you.
I have a feeling Jake and Busy are older friends than we think. I wonder if Michelle, being a friend of Busy's and knowing this leaned on Heath in the godfather choice issue like she did with other things. I know Heath liked Jake but they didn't seem close enough for Jake to be godfather to Matilda, not when Heath had close friends he spend time with on regular basis. Before you jump on me, just think about it. There've been two reports of Jake and Heath hanging out and both those times Busy was there, Farmers Market and the birthday party Heath threw for her.
Awww, we're not going to jump at you. We're pussycats, really.
I have a feeling Jake and Busy are older friends than we think. I wonder if Michelle, being a friend of Busy's and knowing this leaned on Heath in the godfather choice issue like she did with other things. I know Heath liked Jake but they didn't seem close enough for Jake to be godfather to Matilda, not when Heath had close friends he spend time with on regular basis. Before you jump on me, just think about it. There've been two reports of Jake and Heath hanging out and both those times Busy was there, Farmers Market and the birthday party Heath threw for her.
You made some good points and there might be some truth to it, but there's no proof that Busy was the blonde with Heath, Michelle, Matilda and Jake at the farmers market 2006.
but I've got to ask what did "bored" Matilda do when Jake visited Michelle from 2005-2008?
Birdie did not exist before 2008. When she was born Matilda had a little friend, so why not visiting uncle Jake with friend Birdie?
Before being accused by paranoid posters of being a latent shipper, I'm not, BUT I too believe Michelle had a say about who's gonna be the godfather of her daughter, not just Heath.
I agree that 7:22 AM makes some good points. I always found it a little strange that Jake was asked to be Matilda's godfather because they didn't look that close to me. I still think it was mostly PR but this would make sense, too.
I have a feeling Jake and Busy are older friends than we think.
Makes sense. In that case Michelle is the link, reason they know each other.
In that case Michelle is the link, reason they know each other.
No necessarily.
I know most don't believe that guy from "meet the famous" who said that Jake used to pick Michelle up from her play in 99. He probably just assumed that she was Jake's gf, but they just could have been pals, which is much more likely.
Busy and her family spent time in MV with Jake, Maggie and Peter this summer. Busy and her hubby have been papped or sighted with Jake plenty of times. At this point it's obvious their friendship is a thing in its own right, independent to Michelle and Matilda.
If Jake and Michelle are such good pals why don't they hang out together like Jake and Busy? Don't tell me it's ALWAYS indoors where no one sees them. How convenient.
^^Yes, Busy and family seem closer friends to him than Michelle, but did J + B get to know each other through Michelle or not? I would like to know.
If Jake and Michelle are such good pals why don't they hang out together like Jake and Busy? Don't tell me it's ALWAYS indoors where no one sees them. How convenient.
I agree, it's weird really.
If Jake and Michelle are such good pals why don't they hang out together like Jake and Busy? Don't tell me it's ALWAYS indoors where no one sees them. How convenient.
Yes, it is convenient not to have paparazzi around Matilda.
we get over 50 lines of an ONTD article copy and pasted instead of a few lines describing the topic and maybe a link that people could click on.
Sorry, still don't get your point. What difference does it make if the entire article is posted? How is that stopping anyone from discussing whatever they want? Talk about paranoia, lol.
Probably some fellow BBM fans also read when Michelle said that she and Heath mostly hung out alone on the BBM set. But then when promo started, I was completely surprised that Michelle acted as if Jake was a close friend. I watched the whole BBM press conf. and at one point Michelle was stroking his back (a friendly gesture). But they shared just one scene in BBM and according to Michelle they just hung out a litte with Anne and Jake. I'd bet everything that Michelle and Jake knew each other before BBM. And NO I don't think they were ever more than acquaintances or maybe even friends, at least friendly.
In a recent interview Anne said that while Heath and Michelle got in on in his trailer she and Jake were watching The Simpsons on tv like geeks. :)
did J + B get to know each other through Michelle or not?
Does it matter? Busy and her husband accompanied Heath and Michelle during the awards season at parties, shows, etc, maybe that's how they got to know each other.
Bottom line is Jake spends a lot more time with Busy and her family than with Michelle and Matilda. I think the Gyllenhals might be frinds with them since Jake took Ramona to Birdie's birthday party.
Busy and her family spent time in MV with Jake, Maggie and Peter this summer. Busy and her hubby have been papped or sighted with Jake plenty of times. At this point it's obvious their friendship is a thing in its own right, independent to Michelle and Matilda.
I think that's what the poster was saying above when they merely floated the idea that Jake started to hang out with Busy and the family in 2009, when her child was old enough to maybe want a playmate. I don't know whether Jake has a child or not, but it's a valid theory. Single guys don't tend to hang with married couples with children (even when they are related & Jake is not related to Busy Phillips). Prior to Birdie's birth, Jake wasn't known to be Busy's close friend. Since 2009, however that has changed. Ramona was born in 2006 so that's not the connection either. Otherwise, there would have been public outings of the Gyllenhaal/Sargaards from 2006-2008. It's true that Jake only really started to be seen with Busy in 2009, and it's become more noticeable in 2010.
Yes, it is convenient not to have paparazzi around Matilda.
I think they see each other ever now and then, but mostly keep in touch by phone and that's perfectly fine and sufficient in my book.
Strange that the first person we see Jake with the moment he returns to LA is Busy Phillips. There's some kind of connection between these two, and it ain't godparent bonding. Jake knows thousands of people in Los Angeles, yet he meets up with Busy in less than 48 hours. Hmmm. Something to ponder, I agree.
I'd bet everything that Michelle and Jake knew each other before BBM.
I'm sure they knew each other, but then so did Jake and Heath according to Jake. Hundreds of other actors who never worked together know each other. Nothing odd about it. Jake and Michelle didn't seem close during BBM promo, even less so than Jake and Heath. Michelle was stuck to Heath's side like glue while Jake looked like the third wheel.
Michelle was stuck to Heath's side like glue while Jake looked like the third wheel.
I never had the impression Jake was the third wheel. But if he felt like one, he could have hung out with Anne more, which he didn't. Many even had the impression that the trio kind of snubbed Anne. Jake didn't even thank her at the BAFTAs.
A Little OT -
I just found out that Tom Hardy was in a BBC Elizabethan dramayears ago, and I thought who is that hot guy playing Robert Dudley so hotly? I had totally forgotten about it, and never realized when I saw Inception that it was the same guy. He really had presence even then, a great voice. WOW - glad to hear he'll be in Batman 3.
Strange that the first person we see Jake with the moment he returns to LA is Busy Phillips. There's some kind of connection between these two, and it ain't godparent bonding.
What's your theory?
10:45 You have no idea who Jake saw when he first came to L.A. based on a few pap pics. He arrived in L.A. on Thursday and the pap pics were taken on Friday, you mean to tell me that you actually believe he didn't see anyone before then? How old are you??
Such silliness, Jake has freinds, tons that we never se because they are prolly "civillians" he gets papped with Busy because she is an actress and LaMill is a celeb/pap spot now and they know that they will be spotted there.
I agree that Jake and Busy and prolly her husband have known each other a lot longer than some assume. I think they live in the Echo/Silverlake area where Jake grew up.
I always thought that blonde at the Farmers market in 2006 with Jake, Heath and Matilda was Busy.
I always thought that blonde at the Farmers market in 2006 with Jake, Heath and Matilda was Busy.
Yeah, could have been her.
There's some kind of connection between these two, and it ain't godparent bonding.
ITA.
(I just remembered Busy went to PoP after party)
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Never mind that they are Godparents to Matilda, her husband is a writer, producer and that the probably live ine the same area where Jake grew up, the Echo park-Silverlake theory.
Don't confuse them with facts; they've got their minds made up! lol
Please don't bash me for saying this, but I'm not sure what to think of Heath and Michelle as people, I actually didn't really like them back in the day. Though I always respected Heath as an actor. And I actually warmed up to Heath seeing how he and Jake got along and Jake adoring him. I know Jake isn't pefect either and I don't agree with many things he did or does, but I don't know, I don't feel they should have chosen Jake as godfather and dragging him into their circle of friends. Although I wish Matilda nothing but the best. But I have always been so so towards Heath and Michelle as people and I was not surprised when they broke off. Like not at all. I'm glad someone like Busy is the fellow godparent, she seems genuinely nice and "normal". I think she's is a good person and her hubby too. :)
As I said, please don't bash me for my opinion. Thanks.
and dragging him into their circle of friends.
How did they drag Jake into their circle of friends? The only common friend is Busy and their current friendship doesn't seem connected to either Heath or Michelle.
I actually wish Heath had gotten Jake involved with his "The Masses" label. It would give Jake interesting things to do since it looks like he's got too much time on his hands and it would help him cultivate his artistic side. But Jake is probably not interested in working with a bunch of non-famous creative kids.
I know Jake isn't pefect either and I don't agree with many things he did or does, but I don't know, I don't feel they should have chosen Jake as godfather and dragging him into their circle of friends.
Jake was lucky enough to be "dragged" into their circle of friends.
The only common friend is Busy and their current friendship doesn't seem connected to either Heath or Michelle.
I would be very, very surprised if it wasn't connected to MW. That said, they obviously are closer friends than Jake and Williams ever were or will be. IMO.
Of course Jake's friendship with Busy is 100% connected to Michelle, no question about that.
I would be very, very surprised if it wasn't connected to MW.
So you're saying they hang out together and with each other's families because of Michelle? LOL. Maybe they met through her but their friendship obviously goes well beyond her and the godparents thing.
That said, they obviously are closer friends than Jake and Williams ever were or will be.
Obviously??? Number of paparazzi pictures and sightings are NOT the measure of friendship.
Maybe they met through her but their friendship obviously goes well beyond her and the godparents thing.
That's what I meant, genius.
That's what I meant, genius.
You expect people to read your mind, silly?
Of course Jake's friendship with Busy is 100% connected to Michelle, no question about that.
How do you know? It's an assumption, not a fact.
I don't feel they should have chosen Jake as godfather and dragging him into their circle of friends.
It doesn't say much for Jake if you don't think he has mind enough of his own that he would allow himself to be "dragged" anywhere if he didn't want to be there. This sounds like a watered down, politically correct version of the old "Jake was too pure" to hang around the likes of Heath mindset.
Because the ONLY connection is Michelle.
Because the ONLY connection is Michelle.
How do you know?
This sounds like a watered down, politically correct version of the old "Jake was too pure" to hang around the likes of Heath mindset.
I doubt Jake hangs around the likes of Heath anyway, he prefers people like Adam Levine, Reese, Swifty. ;)
How do you know?
From what we do know, that is the only explanation.
From what we do know, that is the only explanation.
Again - It's an assumption, not a fact.
We aren't CIA so will probably never have FACTS. That assumption makes sense, it's not like Jake hangs with other women because they live in his old neighborhood or are married to writers.
I doubt Jake hangs around the likes of Heath anyway, he prefers people like Adam Levine, Reese, Swifty. ;)
The likes of Heath are too hard to handle for sweet momma's boys. :)
It doesn't say much for Jake if you don't think he has mind enough of his own that he would allow himself to be "dragged" anywhere if he didn't want to be there. This sounds like a watered down, politically correct version of the old "Jake was too pure" to hang around the likes of Heath mindset.
Please. I did say I respected Heath as an artist (I even think he was a better actor than Jake is) and found his and Jake's friendship to be cute. But neither Heath, Michelle or Jake were/are perfect. Nobody is.
But there were things that bothered me more about them and their personalities than Jake's. What can I say?
Well, you can start with what bothers you about Heath and Michelle.
That assumption makes sense, it's not like Jake hangs with other women because they live in his old neighborhood or are married to writers.
Do you believe Jake hangs out with Busy and her family because of the person who (probably) introduced them 5 years ago? If that's what you mean, I'm sorry, it's ridiculous. It looks like they hang out a lot and their get togethers aren't connected to Michelle or Matilda unless you think they all (families included) gather around to talk about them.
Do you believe Jake hangs out with Busy and her family because of the person who (probably) introduced them 5 years ago?
Yes, I'm sure that is the reason - and because they share friendship with Michelle and Heath.
Well, you can start with what bothers you about Heath and Michelle.
I think Heath used Michelle as rebound after he split with Watts and to avoid gay rumors about him on the BBM set. I think he was a player with women. Michelle slept with him within days of knowing each other. While I think he liked her, I think he never saw it as long-term. And I agree with some posters that Michelle was probably insecure about the relationship and got pregnant on purpose. I have no proof for that, but I agree with that theory. There were reports that Heath cheated on Michelle numerous times and when I heard they split, I wasn't surprised.
I disrespect Jake for associating himself with much more famous women and making headlines more about his private life than his movies. But the above mentioned character traits of Michelle and Heath I disrespect too. I realise nobody is perfect though. Neither am I.
But neither Heath, Michelle or Jake were/are perfect. Nobody is.
That's a red herring because no one claimed they were perfect. And having things that bothered you about their personalities has nothing to do with your theory that Jake "was dragged" into any circle of friends.
I think Heath used Michelle as rebound after he split with Watts and to avoid gay rumors about him on the BBM set.
Heath was in love with Michelle, they were single - you can't complain about that.
Sorry, but "avoiding gay rumors" bullshit is an insult and doesn't deserve a comment.
Heath was in love with Michelle, they were single - you can't complain about that.
Sorry, but "avoiding gay rumors" bullshit is an insult and doesn't deserve a comment.
I never asked anyone to agree with me. I have my opinion, you have yours. I don't even want to discuss this anymore.
At sixteen, Ledger sat for early graduation exams, and left school to pursue an acting career with girlfriend Jenna Sorrell. With his best friend, Trevor DiCarlo, Ledger made the cross-country drive to Sydney. He returned to Perth for the TV series Sweat (1996), in which he played a gay cyclist.
I have my opinion, you have yours.
Your disrespect and hate is showing.
Yes, I'm sure that is the reason - and because they share friendship with Michelle and Heath.
LOL1 Yeah, Jake, Busy, her husband, Birdie, Maggie, Peter and Ramona get together because of Michelle. Maybe they have some sort of worship ritual for her, Heath and their kid?
Your disrespect and hate is showing.
Ok, if you think so.
I don't even want to discuss this anymore.
Okay. Does that include the remark that Jake was dragged into Heath's circle of friends?
Heath was in love with Michelle, they were single - you can't complain about that.
I don't know that you can call it love when after a year together Heath was sleeping with other women. Or maybe Heath fell out of love really fast? I, too, think he thought the relationship would be a fling until Michelle got preggo. Then he was stuck with it.
Heath was in love with Michelle, they were single
Get your facts straight! Michelle was dating Michael Showalter whom she left for Heath.
^^The break up was so ugly that she refused to promot The Baxter.
I don't like the Esqire cover of Jake: twitpic
I think Jake looks great on that cover. Obvious airbrushing but very subtle. He looks older and more mature, more manly and sexy ;)
I don't like the Esqire cover of Jake
At least it's better than GQ cover.
The Directors: Edward Zwick welcomes painting on a smaller canvas
L.A. Times
I don't like the Esqire cover of Jake: twitpic
Better than GQ, but I don't like it either. His face looks fine, but awkward pose and wtf with the leather gloves with a suitcoat. What is he, the Boston strangler?
One of the headlines on the Esquire cover - "How to win the Ashes Down Under". Awkward much?
"What is he, the Boston strangler?"
LOL!!!
Maybe a sexy proctologist who has great "hand" action.
Who is Nick Clegg and why is people spitting at him?
Nicholas William Peter "Nick" Clegg (born 7 January 1967) is a British Liberal Democrat politician who is the Deputy Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Lord President of the Council and Minister for Constitutional and Political Reform in the coalition government[1] of Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron.
Who is spitting?
Not the most flattering picture of Jake on that cover. If that is the best they could pick I wonder how awful the others were.
Anne's time will come soon :)
Fingers crossed. She's a rare class act in Hollywood.
I doubt Jake hangs around the likes of Heath anyway, he prefers people like Adam Levine, Reese, Swifty. ;)
Jake's famous friends include Natalie Portman, Rufus Wainwright, Anne H., Busy P.. All pretty dectent people, I think.
Ok, there are RDJ, McBongo and Lance Armstrong too. But there needs to be some balance. ;)
The Directors: Edward Zwick welcomes painting on a smaller canvas
"We didn't have a lot of time to shoot the movie — and we did it for a very reasonable price, $30 million — so we all had to be very committed to the process," he said. "It was as much talking about our lives and our relationships and men and women and sex as it was rehearsing. As a director, I do feel it's wise to try to be in a real relationship with these actors. Sometimes it's real, and sometimes it's not. But in this case, it was so real. We genuinely became close, and I think some of that is reflected in the film."
But in this case, it was so real. We genuinely became close....
How close, Ed? Ever since I heard about him getting naked and crawling into bed with Jake and Anne, I've found his style of movie making a bit bizarre. He even admitted that Anne's head was photoshopped in later when it came to that LaOD poster. If that's the case, and he said it was, that means when he got in that bed he was the one cuddled up to Jake, not Anne. Given Jake's impish expression, he doesn't look too unhappy about it either.
Zwick was joking when he said that, I was there at the Q&A, I can't believe people took him seriously.
And If he did have Anne's head photoshopped thenhe had her body or a woman's body photoshopped as well because that is one curvy looking man, LOL!!!
David Denby from the New Yorker asked him why Jake had his hand over his mouth in the poster, a question posed by New yorker magazine or New York magazine, whatever, anyway that's how it came up, it was a joke.
I hate how crap gets repeated as truth, I was there.
People must have not looked beyond Ane's face to notice that was a woman's body, LOL!!
Ed Zwick babbles like jake sometimes I see.
I wonder why Jake didn't get rid of the beard (on his face) before the Esquire photoshoot. He shaved it off a week or two later anyway. That look doesn't seem suited for "Jake Gyllenhaal has sex on the brain".
No, Ed was not kidding about that poster.
No Joke Ed Zwick
Some new, funny MTV footage from Anne, Jake and Zwick interview:
MTV
5:20 That just prove my point that BS is repeated as truth, nobody from the Daily News was at that Q&A,they are just repeating twitter/goggle bits and pieces. Lazy journalism.
I ws there and it was a joke, they were laughing along with the audience, it was part of a question about the nudity and Jake joked that he and Anne were tired of taking their clothes off so ed said he volunteered to take his off and he did, a joke everyone laughed and Jake said that he was shocked!!!
Then Denby bought up the poster only because there was internet chatter on whyJake covered his mouth.
And please you havebe joking in linking to the Daily News.
I can't believe aduts would choose to believe such unprofessional and utter BS.
Again look at the whole body, it's not Zwick'd nor any other man's body.
He said photoshopped her head not entire body, reading comprehension and a little common sense.
I hope you aren't one of those jaustinlonns that freaks out everytime Jake is seen with a woman, even when working.
If it was photoshopped , it was with an anne stand in becauseshewasn't available for the shoot.
"I said, 'What do you want me to do?'" [Zwick] said, according to nymag.com. "And they [Jake and Anne] said, 'You take your clothes off,'"
Zwick got into bed with the two stars and posed for photographs with them to lighten the mood.
"[The art director] stripped me out and put Annie's head on Jake's shoulder, and that's the movie poster," he told the magazine.
These are direct quotes from Zwick to NYMagazine not from the Denby interview and, therefore, has nothing to do with what you thought you heard that night.
And, how do you know what journalists were there that night, anyway? The theatre had a capacity of nearly 500, did you take a poll? I don’t really care that this story bothers you, but Zwick did admit he got into bed with Jake naked.
Zwick did admit he got into bed with Jake naked.
With Jake and Anne ("got into bed with the two stars").
My husband is a professional photographer and the moment he saw that LAOD poster on the Internet asked me why they photoshopped Hathaway's head onto Jake's shoulder? I laughed when he said that, but he was serious. When I looked closer, it's obvious that's what was done. I don't know what 5:58 PM took as a joke that night, but this Zwick quote is a direct one to the NYMAG reporter. So it seems pretty clear to me too that Zwick got naked and was in that photo, lying next to Jake. Not just because that's what it looks like, but because that was what Zwick said he did. His quote doesn't seem jumbled or nuanced. Just a simple retelling of a recollection. Sorry if the thought bothers you, but that's is what Zwick said.
I think the poster was not denying that Anne was there, but trying to make the point that Zwick must have been lying next to Jake, not Anne. Why else would they have to photoshop Anne's head onto Jake's arm, if Anne had been the one cuddled up along Jake's side? Pretty provocative stuff, if you ask me.
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I found an interview with the Brothers cast: Jake, Nat, Tobey.
Moviefone unscripted
You can tell that Natalie and Jake are friends, they seem very comfortable with each other.
I never really got the same feeling with Jake and Anne/or Heath. I think it may be because Jake and Nat have been friends for years and the other friendships were new. Anyone agrees?
"Sophia Bush and her boyfriend Austin Nichols arrive at LAX airport hand-in-hand on Saturday (October 30) in Los Angeles."
Just Jared
Most posters are photoshopped, I bet that Anne was not available and a stand in , a woman obviously was lying next to Jake and they photoshopped Annes head in.
Nonsense.
I never really got the same feeling with Jake and Anne/or Heath.
At least Jake and Anne look more relaxed together. Jake and Heath looked strained IMO.
Jake definitely seems more comfortable with Natalie.
Jake definitely seems more comfortable with Natalie.
You mean more comfortable than with Anne? If so, I agree.
Jake and Heath obviously liked and respected each other a lot. But there was a lack of comfortability with each other.
You mean more comfortable than with Anne?
Anne and Heath.
You mean more comfortable than with Anne?
Anne and Heath.
Yes, definitely agree with that too.
Something more interesting: what the hell happened betwen Prohecy Girl from Im Stalking Jake formely JW and Stephen Gyllenhaal? I mean beyond babygate? I ordered the book but I have a feeling she really doesn't get into it based on some of the reviews i read.
Thee is so much anger, there. I remember at the time her calling his parents whitr trash among other things and I have heard some nasty rhings about him via some membersd of Jake's online fandom via Stephen and his FB page and twitter ( he apparently keeps in touch with them which I find ironic since he trashed the same members 4 years ago.Speulation is that he is just using them to sell his crappy book he has coming out same as he and Cantara did with his shitty poetry.
Anyome have any idea? Did he hit on her or soemthing like that?
he apparently keeps in touch with them which I find ironic since he trashed the same members 4 years ago
Prophecy Girl is pathetic.
Prophecy girl is no more pathetic than Jake's other so-called fans.
She is, other fans don't kiss asses and aren't part of the fandom for money.
And hes it's ironic and hypocritical of Papa to "court" these same fans he smeared in 2006.
Wrong. It's shameful that those "fans" forgot what they did and said just few years ago when Stephen kicked them.
I do like Jake's GQ cover.
The vile things they spewed that night were shocking for people in their positions .
What did they say?
Hey guys, do you remember when Nat said how Jake loves his mom, sister and girlfriend (i know, i know ;)), but not daddy?
^^i mean she didn't mention Stephen.
Jake loves his father, that radio interview during "Brothers" promotion is just one example of that love.
Jake loves his father, but doesn't like him, there is a difference.
The radio interview was wistful rememberance of more happier times, he was obviously close and had a great relationship with his father growing up, which makes his fathers behavior more disappointing to Jake.
you can love your family but not like the choices they make
which makes his fathers behavior more disappointing to Jake.
What a super creepy comment to make. As if you know the first thing about the Jake/Stephen dynamic.
Lazious: Maggie Gyllenhaal & Peter Sarsgaard came into work today & yesterday. They are too cool; a scarily talented couple & have a v cute daughter
about 4 hours ago
I think your defense of stephen is creepy, perhaps you are one of the Jake "fans" that are corresponding to him and hopes that you will buy his shitty books.
10:47 PM - stop pretending that you know anything about Stephen, you aren't fooling anyone.
Michelle has a Monroe moment
Michelle has a Monroe moment
I'm curious if she'll pull off playing MM. It's not an easy role.
I never would have believed it - she looks awesome.
"Sophia Bush and her boyfriend Austin Nichols arrive at LAX airport hand-in-hand on Saturday (October 30) in Los Angeles."
Same city at the same time! :)
Sophia and austin at a HW party,
http://twitpic.com/32vwb6/full
She is taping the C. Fergeson show today and he is taggong along per usual.
^^^ Austin Nichols & Sofia Bush as @katyperry and @rustyrockets at Maroon 5 Halloween 2010 Bash.
@adamlevine as Detective John McClain at @maroon5 Halloween bash. Hell of a party fellas...
http://twitpic.com/32vxf1
Jake stayed at home watching TV with BT.
Bitch Back
Dear Ted:
Just watched Lars and the Real Girl—only Ryan Gosling could pull that role off. Since you talk of him in your column, I decided to Google him. If true, the dude is a second-born, home-schooled, Canadian Mormon who took a few years off to sing in a very dark sounding band. All right, Ted, my context clues are definitely saying there is more to this guy than the gym and biceps. Please give us more on all things Gosling. Spill. What is he like in real life? Does he party?
—KAC
Dear Right in the Wrong Ways;
Ry-guy is way more hipster than Hollywood. He's definitely a little funky, not the typical Hollywood playboy you would expect. Yes, he has gotten his party on. Sometimes pretty heavily, too. And think more on the Robert Pattinson spectrum than Jake Gyllenhaal, who is getting himself linked to every T-town babe in sight. But just because Gosling flies under the radar doesn't mean he doesn't have some cork in him.
Dear Ted:
What's Jerry Menage-e-No been up to these days? Will she ever come out publicly, or does she still think that her career will be affected? Would she be willing to do what Anna Paquin did?
—E
Dear Nice Try:
Few babes have Paquin's guts—or insight. Certainly not Jerry, who will wither away in her indecision, I fear.
Dear Ted:
What happened to all the scoop about John Travolta's sitch? Only a few weeks back, it seemed like there was a tidal wave of innuendo flying around—he was all over the front page of the National Enquirer, all the blogs were racing to dish, and you were telling us about how Seymour Plow-Me-More would have reacted in the same situation. Yet now it's all suddenly gone quiet. Can this be explained scientifically?
—Dave
Dear Easiest One Yet:
It's called Scientology.
Dear Ted:
In what state does Baby Tile live? Does he or she live with Toothy or Gray Goose?
—Suz
Dear One Big Toothy Family:
More than one.
Pollapalooza!
We've got a hot and bothered round-up of our latest polls!
Last week was all about Taylor Swift and Jake Gyllenhaal's out-of-nowhere romance. Are we the only ones not buying this too-presh People pairing?
Dig in to find out if you're alone in thinking those Glee GQ pics were nothing but desperate; plus, so much more:
Get to Writin' Taylor Swift! Almost 65 percent of you do not think Taylor and Jake are destined to make it to many more apple-picking dates.
While the couple sure look good together, we're not feeling the sparks here, either. And with the timing of Love and Other Drugs and Tay's album, Speak Now, we're filing this under the too-convenient category. Especially since Jakey has been on the prowl since Reese Witherspoon broke it off, and we all know Swift is gonna need some catchy tunes for her third CD! We L-O-V-E both Tay and Jake, just not together.
Hey, but good thing Gyllenhaal's a nice boy. Don't think T.S. will get too much material—that she'd actually sing about—from this relationship
Ted is truly obsessed with Jake. Not sure if that's a compliment for Jake.
Oh no.
"Oh no" what?
^^Don't think T.S. will get too much material—that she'd actually sing about—from this relationship.
This oh no. Oh Ted. :)
The new James Franco movie, 127 Hours, about the trapped hiker who amputated his own arm to escape certain death is apparently so graphic its causing audience members to faint. That wasn't director Danny Boyle's intent and studio executives say they would rather people not get sick at the film, but industry experts say it could boost box office.
The film is the story of Aron Ralston, a young hiker who went off into the Utah mountains in 2003 without telling people where he was going. Falling boulders pinned his arm and after five days unable to free himself, Ralston decided the only way to survive was to amputate his arm. He did so and the film shows it graphically.
The filmmakers say its not meant to be a gross-out film and critics are singling it out as a high-brow drama with awards on the horizon. Danny Boyle, who directed Slumdog Millionaire, is no stranger to the Oscar stage. That film won eight Academy Awards.
Faintings at Screenings of New James Franco Film, '127 Hours'
I'll have to turn away during that part. ;)
There is no way I will ever watch that movie. Sorry Franco!
Watching that video of Natalie and Jake, I think, if Jake is gay, then she knows it. Not sure if his three BBM co-stars knew/know. Heath probably saw Jake like himself, a bi curious, bi guy, prefering woman.
Still tend to believe Jake is bi, but that video gave me complete gay vibes. LOL. (Tomorrow I'll probably think he's straight, ha.)
There is no way I will ever watch that movie. Sorry Franco!
Did you notice that he loves doing bio pics?
Repost of the interview. I like the interaction between J, N and T. They are cute together.
Interview
BBM cast interview:
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Comparing those interviews, I get the impression that Jake, oddly, seems more mature in the BBM interview, even though the Brothers interview was done 3 years later.
Don't think T.S. will get too much material—that she'd actually sing about—from this relationship.
This oh no. Oh Ted. :)
I don't get what you mean?
Not a whole lot of making noise in the bedroom is how I interpret it. :)
Not a whole lot of making noise in the bedroom is how I interpret it. :)
Oh, lol. Well, in his "Truth, Lies and Ted" video, Ted makes a show of throwing away condoms and saying they won't be needed when talking about the possibility of "Swill," so I thought he meant she wouldn't be able to write a song about bearding :)
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