Friday, 24 April 2009
To Out or Not To Out?
Did you hear the one about the upcoming summer blockbuster heartthrob who has a clause in his deal that allows the studio to dump him if he comes out? Or how about the one about the world-famous singer who celebrates his concerts with all-boy after parties? Everywhere you look, there's a new "Is he or isn't he" rumor. This week, British singer Marilyn admitted to a five year-love affair with Gwen Stefani's hubbie, Gavin Rossdale. A new documentary promises to prove once and for all that Florida Governor Charlie Christ is gay. And heck, Hugh Jackman just loves the gay rumors. But is it "coming out" when you're dragged kicking and screaming out of the closet?
Here's a real story, with the details removed for privacy. A few years back, while casting a tent pole action blockbuster, the studio in charge discovered that it's lead was a big 'mo. They went to him and said essentially, "Look, we need to know you aren't going to come out. We can get you dates with a girl for public appearances, but you can not possibly come out." He refused and was dropped from the project like a hot potato.
Why haven't you heard this story? Because the actor in question wanted a career. It's easy to think of the Hollywood closet as some relic of the past, but it's alive and kicking. Gays and lesbians who come out, do it at enormous professional risks and unlike many other industries, there is no such thing as "employment nondiscrimination" in Tinseltown, whose very existence is about being discriminating.
So, when a celebrity chooses his career over his sexuality, do we blame them? For the most part, it seems we take each outing as a 'victory'. "Aha! I knew you were gay!" we shout and feel vindicated, but let's put it this way – How many of you have gone out and bought a Clay Aiken album since he came out of the closet?
Bruce Vilanch, a constant source of wisdom told me once that we should ask ourselves why we would want to include somebody who doesn't want to be a part of our group? He has a point. Shouldn't we want willing allies? Certainly, of you go out to a gay club or walk hand in had with your boyfriend in the park, you're opening the door to talking about it. After all, we don't want to encourage any more celebrities to do the "Yup, I'm Gay" story in People (which always makes the celeb in question seem like they think we should throw them a fucking parade), but how different is it when we tell a celebrity, "Oh my god, you're totally gay!" from the annoying guy in high school who taunted us with the same remark?
So, tell us – do celebs deserve to be yanked out of the closet or is it a personal decision? Do you have any personal ethics of outing people in your own life?
Source: Are Gay Affairs Awesome or Awful?
Photo: Hollywood's Silent Closet
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ReplyDelete@ Previous post's comments
Happy Birthday Austin!
ReplyDeleteThe Not Hot 100 Results
ReplyDelete1. Bill O' Reilly
2. Glenn Beck
3. Rush Limbaugh
4. Fred Phelps
5. George Bush
6. Dick Cheney
7. Sean Hannity
8. Pope Benedict
9. Pastor Rick Warren
10. Toby Keith
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90 Anderson Cooper
91. Jake Gyllenhaal
92. Ben Stein
93. Andy Samberg
94. Eddie Murphy
95. Dennis Ayers
96. Arlen Spector
97. Clarence Thomas
98. Eliot Spitzer
99. Don Imus
100. Balthazar Getty
After Elton
Anderson and Jake on The Not Hot 100 list - some gays don't like closeted celebrities.
ReplyDeleteWe love out Better Off Ted star Jonathan Slavin. We recently spoke to him for our now-historic BEST.GAY.WEEK.EVER! on camp, which led to a fascinating conversation about straight actors playing gay roles — something Slavin wishes they wouldn't do.
ReplyDeleteNow Slavin has been interviewed for Advocate.com in which he expounds further on Hollywood's internalized homophobia:
"What happens sometimes with gay writers, gay directors, and gay casting directors is that they sort of look like me: They’re sort of schlubby, middle-aged gay guys who have always been schlubby gay guys, and who have always wanted to be around really hot guys. When you give those people power, they tend to surround themselves with the people that they find dreamy, and they have a tendency to fetishize the conversion of hot straight guys. Like, you hear stories about them not yelling "cut" on the set of Brothers & Sisters when Jason Lewis and Matt Rhys were kissing.
It starts with the gay people in power, but the responsibility falls on us in the gay community because we tend not to care if a straight guy plays a gay character as long as they’re cute. We’ll choose abs over politics, and that’s our problem. It’s up to us to say, "But I’d like to see a gay person playing a gay person."
He also speaks about how difficult it is for gay actors to be considered for some gay roles:
"I have actively sought after some gay roles that I haven’t even been able to get seen for because they’ve said, "It’s not that kind of gay; we want Brokeback Mountain gay, so we’re only seeing straight guys."
It's obvious that Slavin isn't afraid to tell it like it is, and we applaud his candor. Now if someone could just do something about his de-gayed IMDB profile!
After Elton
The Informers premiere video
ReplyDeleteAustin talks about Martin and looks very cute :)
Austin Nichols Journal
NSFW
ReplyDeleteHappy Birthday Austin!
^^^ My favorite!
ReplyDeleteHackers broke into Salma Hayek's email and posted screen shots of her emails, including iPhone applications she bought, an invitation to America Ferrerra's birthday party, and the weekly scans she receives of tabloid stories about her. [Defamer]
ReplyDelete"It’s not that kind of gay; we want Brokeback Mountain gay, so we’re only seeing straight guys."
ReplyDeleteWhat is he saying?
Straight actors playing gay roles.
ReplyDelete""It’s not that kind of gay; we want Brokeback Mountain gay, so we’re only seeing straight guys."
ReplyDeleteWhat is he saying?"
Wake up and smell the columbine, BBMt the film was about two str8 guys, played by two of the lovliest men on the planet in the exquisite time of their youth. Pretty hot stuff, for girls and boys alike.
8:34 AM,
ReplyDeleteHello, that someone said "we want Brokeback Mountain gay".
He's saying Heath and Jake are straight.
ReplyDeleteNo, he [casting director] is saying that they want straight looking (no gayface) and straight acting (no flaming, no gay voice) actors.
ReplyDelete"Here's a real story, with the details removed for privacy. A few years back, while casting a tent pole action blockbuster, the studio in charge discovered that it's lead was a big 'mo. They went to him and said essentially, "Look, we need to know you aren't going to come out. We can get you dates with a girl for public appearances, but you can not possibly come out." He refused and was dropped from the project like a hot potato."
ReplyDeleteWhat a fool!
"Anderson and Jake on The Not Hot 100 list - some gays don't like closeted celebrities."
ReplyDeleteHumm and where are all the others rumoured to be closeted then Cruise, Travolta, Jackman , Di caprio ......????
^^^ Gays love them better than Anderson and Jake.
ReplyDeleteBarack Obama , rupert Everett are on the list!!!! lol
ReplyDelete"we want Brokeback Mountain gay, so we’re only seeing straight guys."
I think he says the actors are straight.
"^^^ Gays love them better than Anderson and Jake."
ReplyDeleteYeah right!!!! lol
Anderson and Jake ARE on the NOT hot list - you can't say we made that up.
ReplyDelete"But I’d like to see a gay person playing a gay person."
ReplyDeleteHe also speaks about how difficult it is for gay actors to be considered for some gay roles:
"I have actively sought after some gay roles that I haven’t even been able to get seen for because they’ve said, "It’s not that kind of gay; we want Brokeback Mountain gay, so we’re only seeing straight guys."
Not engaging an actor in a gay role cause he is gay , is quite ironic!!
"I think he says the actors are straight."
ReplyDeleteAre you saying that there are no gay and closeted working actors in Hollywood?
"Anderson and Jake ARE on the NOT hot list - you can't say we made that up."
ReplyDeleteNo but maybe some are simply tired to see Jake on the top of hot list and don't find him attractive!!
There can be many reason than the " oh god Jake is closeted actor , I am going to vote for him"
"Are you saying that there are no gay and closeted working actors in Hollywood?"
ReplyDeleteIs the guy saying the two BBM actors are gay ?
He's not talking about Heath and Jake, he's talking about the casting principle - heterosexuals (real or fake) are what they prefer.
ReplyDeleteBirthday Sluts
ReplyDeleteShirley MacLaine (75)
Kelly Clarkson (27)
Austin Nichols (29)
Danny Gokey (29)
Eric Balfour (32)
Derek Luke (35)
Melinda Clarke (40)
Dijmon Hounsou (45)
Cedric the Entertainer (45)
Captain Sensible (55)
Eric Bogosian (56)
Jean-Paul Gaultier (57)
Barbra Streisand (67)
Richard Donner (79)
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"Which closeted - and married - actor almost had his cover blown when he hit on a straight man in a sauna? Word is the offended dude is now quite wealthy, thanks to a payoff." [Gatecrasher]
ReplyDelete"I realized I was spending hours and hours in the middle of the night signing autographs. Unless I had assistants forging letters and signatures I knew I couldn't continue. So I posted a message on the internet saying: 'If I can't do it honestly, I won't do it any more.'"
ReplyDelete— Viggo Mortensen, on answering fan mail. [Daily Mail]
He's saying they want general public acceptable gays - young, good looking, traditionally masculine, no matter who they really are, gay or straight.
ReplyDelete"If you read some of his early-life autobiography, it's horrible... the amount of mental anguish he has to go through, just to have any kind of even vaguely sexual relationship. It's really depressing what he's going through in his head. Dali had a massive fear of penetration – penetrating someone or being penetrated… [As for the love scenes with a man,] I think girls almost really like watching something like that. From what I've read, people really get excited about that – it sounds really sexy!"
ReplyDelete— Robert Pattinson on playing Salvador Dali. [Independent]
^^or general public marketable, I should say. :)
ReplyDeleteI agree with the comment as well about Bernie Maddox - while it's true that criminal schemes are a dime a dozen and another Ponzi scheme came to light yesterday, it's preying on your own that is really low, IMO. He shouldn't be let off the hook, even if it's just satire or in jest, and should pay restitution to the people he bilked.
"He's saying they want general public acceptable gays - young, good looking, traditionally masculine, no matter who they really are, gay or straight."
ReplyDeleteNot only that - gay casting directors like straight-acting actors: "When you give those people power, they tend to surround themselves with the people that they find dreamy, and they have a tendency to fetishize the conversion of hot straight guys."
It's a gay thing.
"""It’s not that kind of gay; we want Brokeback Mountain gay, so we’re only seeing straight guys."
ReplyDeleteWhat is he saying?"
Wake up and smell the columbine, BBMt the film was about two str8 guys, played by two of the lovliest men on the planet in the exquisite time of their youth. Pretty hot stuff, for girls and boys alike.
Anonymous said...
8:34 AM,
Hello, that someone said "we want Brokeback Mountain gay"."
Hello back attcha. BBMTthefilm (not the story) "gay" is
a coupla gorgeous str8 guys doin' it. No homo sex please.
^^Ooops, sorry for the typo, it should be "Bernie Maddoff". I love the title of the proposed book or movie - "Scumdog Millionaire". Thank you, NYTimes! :)
ReplyDelete"BBMTthefilm (not the story) "gay" is a coupla gorgeous str8 guys doin' it. No homo sex please."
ReplyDeleteHuh?
Jake is gay.
Ennis and Jack are gay.
Which straight boys?
RW on set (James L Brooks movie)
ReplyDelete"I love the title of the proposed book or movie - "Scumdog Millionaire"."
ReplyDeleteGreat title :)
Some marriage news (balony) ;):
ReplyDeleteMichelle Williams and Spike Jonze ****
Reeke source: Life & Style
Reeke****
;)
"As a guy, this one is extremely painful to write. This A list movie actor who was also a star on television has a scene in a recent movie where he strips down to his underwear. Because of the lighting no one noticed anything amiss. It was only when the movie was being edited that his penile piercing was noticed through the underwear. A large piercing that had to be digitally removed." [CDaN]
ReplyDeleteThat NSFW cake for Austin is a winner. I wonder if Jake baked it himself.
ReplyDeleteYes, I did! I'm a great cook, don't you know that?
ReplyDeleteI was the cake model!
ReplyDeleteNow, now, Heath. We know you are always in Jake's thoughts, but Austin can't know that.
ReplyDeleteThere's an lot of posters on here (or one poster who posts a lot) about the wish fulfillment of "gays". Not gay people, just "gays".
ReplyDeleteHow about the wish-fulfillment of "straights" that everybody should be straight? Don't see that mentioned much.
11:54 AM
ReplyDeleteI don't get it, what are you trying to say?
I dont get your point, my friend
ReplyDeleteI'm a straight TB :)
ReplyDeleteIm 12:06 and I still don't get it.
ReplyDelete? ? ? ? ? ?
I think 11:54 AM is trying to say that gay people posting on WFT2 wish that other people are gay too.
ReplyDeleteA new trailer for the Ang Lee film Taking Woodstock, about the gay man (Elliot Tiber, played by Demetri Martin) who facilitated the music festival in upstate New York, has been released. Here's the previous one.
ReplyDeleteAnd yes, that is Liev Schreiber in drag.
New and Old Trailer for Taking Woodstock
Sorry, I still don't get her point. seems to have somewhat to do with language, "gays" versus "gay people"
ReplyDeleteStraight people, or those who are assumed to be straight people - are accused of wish fulfillment all the time - they get called Babblers and fangirls.
ReplyDeleteBabblers and fangirls are accused of being stupid and PR naive. Gays can be stupid and PR naive too, like Jack/Jeff troll.
ReplyDeleteJack/Jeff from IMDB is gay? Really? He is a Reeke fanboy and used to talk trash about Heath, called his character in BBM "Ellis". LOL. I honestly thought he was straight.
ReplyDeleteFeb 2008
ReplyDeleteThe funny thing about Jeff is that he is either gay or a strong gay supporter. You should read his posts on the "Milk" page on imdb, he is very supportive of the film and of what it represents, it's about Harvey Milk and will be this years big "gay" movie. I remember reading his posts on the Jake page and thought he was a homophobe or something, then I read all his posts for "Milk" and he is very supportive.
Go figure.
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Jeffpuim has changed his screenname on imdb.com! It's now jackbourassa.
He has deleted ALL of his posts on the Jake Gyllenhaal board but kept a lot of them on Milk (where he has his new screenname).
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I think Jeff's real name is Jack Bourassa. I've seen his posts on liberal web sites like DailyKos and DemocraticUnderground before. For years even. He seems to go by Jack when talking about politics and goes by Jeff when he talks about celebrity gossip. So i'm inclined to believe his real name is at least Jack. The girls at the Tom Brady site refer to him as "Jack" sometimes. He's also a Patriots fan. So i'm assuming he posts over on other Patriots boards as well. Good catch imdb is watching.
Get this, he was banned from Democratic Underground for fighting with a Clinton supporter, so he's definitely for Obama.
^^Jeff's s a weirdo.
ReplyDelete"The funny thing about Jeff is that he is either gay or a strong gay supporter."
ReplyDeleteI believe that. I think Jeff is protecting Jake and his career from gay rumors.
insanely powertrippy and sex scandalous #blindvice coming tomorrow in @awfultruth, I like keeping this away from E! legal snits
ReplyDeleteso tomorrow's #Vice about Hard-Nipple Nick puts the #tomcruise conspiracy theories to shame! delish! clues coming...
It's Austin's Birthday!!!!
ReplyDeleteALL YOUR FRIENDS AT SOGOPRO WISH YOU A VERY WONDERFUL DAY.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY AUSTIN!!!
Hilarie Burton(?) sings Happy Birthday
I think 11:54 AM is trying to say that gay people posting on WFT2 wish that other people are gay too.No!
ReplyDeleteJust the opposite.
I'm tired of the poster on here who claims that all gay people get their jollies from claiming every hot guy is gay.
I strongly disagree.
What about straight posters who clame Jake is gay?
ReplyDeleteBTW, Dany, WFT blog owner, is straight too.
I have never seen anything like that posted here, just the opposite in fact.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of Austin, does anyone have a general sense of how the "Informers" is being received? Will it be at any festivals? Any mention in particular of Austin's performance?
ReplyDeleteWas wondering because I really don't think this Southern Gothic thing is going anywhere.
The Informers - mostly bad reviews.
ReplyDeleteSF Gate liked The Informers
ReplyDelete"I have never seen anything like that [all gay people get their jollies from claiming every hot guy is gay] posted here..."
ReplyDeleteI did - for example, by troll called Chuck.
"What about straight posters who claim Jake is gay?"
ReplyDeleteThis is a wierd conversation, I don't get it, still, but will say that there are many of us straight women who know Jake is gay that post here.
"I'm tired of the poster on here who claims that all gay people get their jollies from claiming every hot guy is gay.
ReplyDeleteI strongly disagree."
I'm not hearing this, and my hearing is good.
and this is so idiotic I dont understand why it's being discussed in the first place.
Well, is Austin getting any notice for his performance at least?
ReplyDeleteI am kind of hoping that some major director notices him the way Ang took notice of Heath's performance in "Monster's Ball." Ang called Heath's performance his audition.
Wow, that would be great! :) I love that people thought so much of Heath's performances, and is work spoke for him.
ReplyDelete^^his work
ReplyDelete"I am kind of hoping that some major director notices him the way Ang took notice of Heath's performance in "Monster's Ball." Ang called Heath's performance his audition."
ReplyDeleteunlikely
Some actors need a key role to start to shy. Heath got it and he was capable to mantain his level.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Austin didn't show everything he has to offer yet.
Are Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel dating for real or is it a fauxmance? They look even more fake than Reeke.
ReplyDelete3:33 PM#1, Heath was VERY talented. Austin is alright but nowhere near Heath's level.
ReplyDeleteThe same applies to Jake, who is nowhere near Heath's level either.
ReplyDelete3:40 PM, so true but Jake is a better actor than Austin.
ReplyDelete3:33 #2 I don't know. But doesn't it seem odd that J&J always seem to do the same things a few months after Reeke? J&J went to Rome (or somewhere in Europe, I can't remember) and they did a photo op and they did the piggyback ride. And now they did Lakers kiss. All after Reeke did them. Wtf??
ReplyDeleteJustin Timberlake and Jessica Biel are a fauxmance too. Zac and Vanessa are fake too and they also did the piggyback-Europe-lakers photo op. There is a Hollywood bearding handbook for sure.
ReplyDelete3:49 PM, they are copycats. ;)
ReplyDelete"Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel are a fauxmance too. Zac and Vanessa are fake too and they also did the piggyback-Europe-lakers photo op. There is a Hollywood bearding handbook for sure."
ReplyDeleteHow pathetic, really.
"91. Jake Gyllenhaal "
ReplyDeleteJake, Jake, Jake, look what you've done with your behaviour!
Let's hope for Jake's sake, that everything will be better for him professionally and maybe even personally.
Lorenzo Martone Shares the Story of How He Proposed to Marc Jacobs
ReplyDeleteMarc Jacobs’s trip to Brazil to meet Lorenzo Martone’s family was a success. “It went very well,” Lorenzo told us at the Cinema Society premiere of Obsessed last night. “He met my entire family — mom, dad, brother, grandmother. Everyone adored him. Like they should, right?” Lorenzo says that despite all the talk about their matching rings, this was not intended as an engagement trip. “It was just a trip to meet my family.” That said, he confirms that the two are, in fact, engaged. Turns out Lorenzo proposed to Marc! Lorenzo bought the rings at Boucheron — Marc’s favorite jeweler — in Paris during Fashion Week. “I was in Paris for Fashion Week, for the Vuitton show, so I had a little planning beforehand to do that,” Martone says. The rings are pink-gold triple bands, and he surprised Jacobs with them during dinner at the Mercer Hotel, shortly before the trip to Brazil. "That’s an iconic place for us, you know? [Marc] lived there for ten years. When I proposed, the rings came with our starters in the restaurant,” Lorenzo revealed. “I bought the rings in Paris, brought them here, and then before the trip to Brazil, I proposed.” Martone says he was nervous, and is relieved that it worked well. They haven’t set a date, but he thinks December in St. Barts would be lovely.
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^^^ Congratulations and good luck boys! :)
ReplyDelete^^Sigh. :)
ReplyDeleteBlind Vice: Star Couple Showdown!
ReplyDeleteHard-Nipple Nick is the hottest star, both bod-wise and at the box office. His wife's figure and professional goings-on aren't too shabby, either, as both Mr. and Mrs. Nick enjoy fame and fortune regularly up on the big screen—though his paychecks dwarf hers, big-time. Yep, everything's pretty cozy Chez Nick, even the bisexual couple's agreement to have lovers outside the marriage. Instead of his-and-hers towels, they have his-and-hers sex partners!
And you guessed it, there's a girl for Mrs. Nick and...
A boy for Mr. Nick! And like the smart have-it-all couple they are, the Nicks chose other famous people to be their closeted lovers. Too crafty! Only problem being Hard-Nipple's boyfriend is married to an established actress who's growing increasingly peeved over the clandestine arrangement.
"He's starting to go out and fly him with him everywhere," a good friend to the Nicks told yours truly about Hard-Nipple taking the BF a few too many places as of late. "They're turning up everywhere together, and [the boyfriend's wife] is getting really pissed about it. It's going too far. It's only a matter of time before she spills."
Guess all those pricey little gifties to the wife for borrowing her hubby aren't as attractive as they once were?
Must say I'm a tad surprised to hear this latest development, as H.-N'.s always been one of the best in the Biz about keeping his preferred love life on the down-low. And now that it's flyin' high, guess a tabloid revelation is only seconds away from takeoff!
And It Ain't: John Travolta, David Beckham, Jerry O'Connell
Blind Vice
It's about fucking time BOTH people wear engagement rings. It always bugs me that in straight relationships when the couple gets engaged the female wears an engagement ring to advertise that she's been spoken for but the male doesn't. Both partners equally wearing engagement rings is another great thing that come from gay marriage.
ReplyDeleteGays rule :)
ReplyDelete#hard-nipple nick talks about his marriage a lot. way too much.
ReplyDeleteand #hard-nipple nick knows how to kill it in his other pro endeavor, too
reading coments on OMG about Elle covers,
ReplyDeletei'm already prepared for the worst.
The engagement is coming....
I think Toothy is making a BIG mistake, but reading the comments here and in the gossip sites is gonna be super fun ;)
UK Elle is recycled US Elle, including Reese's ring on the cover.
ReplyDelete^^
ReplyDeleteso? is the timing what it counts.
What timing?
ReplyDeleteshe is saying NOW that she want a commitment
ReplyDeletei don't know,it's just an idea i had.
Well I guess that means Austin better hang on to the day job.
ReplyDeleteAbout Hard Nipple, I would have guessed Brad and Angie except that Ted does use the word "marriage.
My other guess would have been Hugh Jakeman, but his wife is not an actress.
5:53 PM
ReplyDeleteSo no one paid any attention to Reese's (Ryan's) ring few months ago (US Elle).
"she is saying NOW that she want a commitment"
ReplyDeleteThat Life & Style crap?
"About Hard Nipple, I would have guessed Brad and Angie except that Ted does use the word "marriage""
ReplyDeleteSounds like Will Smith.
"she is saying NOW that she want a commitment"
ReplyDeleteThat Life & Style crap?
^^
Life & Style wouldn't print something withot Reese and her PR agreement
Life & Style doesn't need PR agreement for repeating and recycling old Reeke rag stories.
ReplyDeletex17 has Jake at lunch with a director dude
ReplyDeleteEarlier this afternoon, Jake Gyllenhaal met up with Oscar-winning screenwriter Stephen Gaghan at Caffe Luxxe, and it looks like the guys had a good time chatting over lunch.
ReplyDeleteX17
Stephen Gaghan
ReplyDeleteTurned down the offer to adapt The Da Vinci Code.
Has written two screenplays where Harrison Ford was offered a role: Robert Wakefield in Traffic (2000) (which went to Michael Douglas) and Bob Barnes in Syriana (2005) (which George Clooney won the Oscar).
Won Oscar for Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published for: Traffic (2000)
Jake looks good. Thats too bad.
ReplyDeleteIsn't he suppposed to be deteriorating minute by minute? That is what I keep reading here.
Jake usually looks good around men.
ReplyDeleteSunglasses are on, who knows what his eyes look like.
ReplyDeleteHe looked good when he was with his sister. He looked great with Reese at Vanity Fair party.
ReplyDeleteI just think Jake is like every other human being. Some days are better than others, regardless of who's he's with at the time. I just think some of you only see the bad time because you want to believe the bearding is taking some kind of physical toll and is proof of some kind of karmic pusnishment.
Kind of sad, really.
"Sunglasses are on, who knows what his eyes look like."
ReplyDeleteI agree. Jake never looked bad, whatever's going on with him is in the eyes. Like in the Coachella pics, in some pics the look in his eyes is scary. I hope he’s ok. :(
6:57 PM
ReplyDeleteI think Jake doesn't enjoy bearding and hiding in the closet.
And yes, things like that are taking physical and emotional toll because Jake is like every other human being.
"Jake never looked bad..."
ReplyDeleteYes, he did.
" in some pics the look in his eyes is scary."
ReplyDeleteReally? I thought he looked fine.
Really.
ReplyDeletepic 1pic 2
IHJ gallery
ReplyDeleteApril 24 - Jake Leaving Caffe Luxxe In Santa Monica
"Really.
ReplyDeletepic 1pic 2"
C'mon. I think he was annoyed at the papz, at least in the first pic. Buzy looks annoyed too. They probably shouted some crap.
Ok, WTF? The x17 pics have him in jeans and grey t. IHJ in shorts and hoody. Both are 4/24 Caffe Luxxe.
ReplyDelete"C'mon. I think he was annoyed at the papz, at least in the first pic."
ReplyDeleteLOL
Reeke posed for 120 paparazzi pics, but they can't pretend all the time.
"LOL"
ReplyDeleteYou can laugh as much as you want, but it's still my opinion that he didn't invite the papz to the concert and that he was genuinely annoyed this time. I know he and Reese arrange such things often, but I doubt they invited them to the concert.
Reeke aranged three paparazzi photo ops before the concert, but didn't want paparazzi at the concert? Yeah, that makes sense. Reese was looking into the camera because she was annoyed. LOL
ReplyDelete^^But why flip them off? To pretend he was annoyed even if he and Chinny called them? If so then they are wackos.
ReplyDeleteThey want the public to think the paps don't leave them alone. Why? because they are so famous and people are dying for pics of them and they are being chased by the paps.
ReplyDeleteThe reality is that no one is interested in them, (just check the comments on other sites compared to really famous celebrities like angelina & brad) so they pay the paps to take their pic and then put on an act for the public! sad, sad, sad.
Jake is a pathetic little fucker.
ReplyDeleteMaybe Reeke pics are more lucrative for paparazzi to sell to tabloids than these of the other stars at the festival?
ReplyDeleteI think you've got that backwards. Reeke probably has to pay people to run their pictures.
ReplyDelete"Maybe Reeke pics are more lucrative for paparazzi to sell to tabloids than these of the other stars at the festival?"
ReplyDeleteI don't know about that. The most recent US Weekly cover is the first one since last summers great POP European adventure. That cover didn't sell well and the last one didn't seem to sell that well. Maybe Reeke PR figured that since it had been awhile for Reeke covers they would test the waters and try again. Maybe that why the bearding seems to suddenly been upped a notch. If interest about them hasn't grown since last year, that means people are bored with them. So PR decided to try and regain interest in Reeke. I wonder if they will finally kill Reeke if this latest bearding push doesn't generate any new interest. I mean isn't the point of the bearding to generate interest to keep Reese's old fans and get new ones for her?
Jake always looks good when Reese is not around. Santa Monica again. Where Austin is. There are only a couple of paps around him. Doesn't look that bad. If they went away, he would have nothing. The Reese captions don't even get his full name.
ReplyDeleteWell, today is Austin's birthday so I'm not surprised he was in Santa Monica.
ReplyDeleteIsn't Reese filming? Is she on set in Boston or Philly?
Reese is filming in Philadelphia. I wonder how much quality time she got in with the kids while Ryan was away between her showmance with Jake, promoting her movie and getting ready for a new movie it can't have been very much. I'm bet they are looking forward to having their father home.
ReplyDeleteFilming in Philly? Hmm. I wonder where Jake went after his meeting with Stephen Gagnan (honestly, I hope that goes somewhere--I really want to see Jake in GOOD films again--like BBM) now that Reese isn't in town. Hmmm and today was someone's birthday.
ReplyDeleteIf Reese is in Phildelphia, guarenteed that this weekend we'll get the Reeke photo op blitz from there. Jake will hop on the private jet to spend the weekend with Chinormica getting coffee and seeing the sights in Philly. Of course, I'm sure they will go to those really popular pap spots like a museum just like they did in Madrid.
ReplyDeleteDoesn't matter what Jake does over the weekend. Today Reese wasn't in town, and Austin was. It's his b'day, Jake was papped in Santa Monica, where Austin lives, walking to an SUV - and who owns an SUV? - without the keys ready in his hand like usual, and looking unreeked good.
ReplyDeleteYou do the math.
What?!? Reese is in Philly and Jake isn't there running behind her with his finger up her butt? Disney ain't gonna be happy! Better do what you are told Jakey-boy.
ReplyDeleteDo you really need to slag off on others over here, too?
ReplyDeletePerhaps the pics inspired the same thought to more than one person? I know it's hard to comprehend for some, but there are those of us that actual have original thoughts, independant of blogs and tabloids and PR driven bullshit.
So we are supposed to believe that Austin sat in a car and waited like a good dog for Jake to finish his meal with this guy? Because Jake wasn't holding his car keys in his hand?
ReplyDeleteAre you serious? Did anyone see Jake get into this car? Or maybe he rented the car?
The guy pics and car pics are different sets. Geez, get with the program will ya?
ReplyDelete"Jake was papped in Santa Monica, where Austin lives, walking to an SUV - and who owns an SUV? - without the keys ready in his hand like usual, and looking unreeked good."
ReplyDeleteHumm I don't know , he seems totally alone and ,looking at his face, I would say not really enthusiastic!
Not looking happy because this wasn't a scheduled photo op maybe? Not supposed to be seen out and about alone, getting into someone else's car when the Chin and chain are in Philly?
ReplyDeleteThere is no point in sneaking around with Austin, avoiding paparazzi, when they can do whatever they want in private.
ReplyDeleteI have a love/hate relationship with “take a meeting” stories. I hate them on one hand because they’re so speculative and gossipy. On the other hand, I love rumors and speculation. What is a “take a meeting” story? It is when a two people, usually a director and an actor or a writer and an actor are spotted in the wilds of Los Angeles having “lunch”. And of course, no one is Hollywood just has lunch to have lunch, especially not filmmakers and actors (I’m kidding… but also partly serious). Anyway, if you’re going to get upset over a highly speculative story, please skip over this post.
ReplyDeleteJake Gyllenhaal was spotted taking a lunch meeting with Academy Award and Emmy Award-winning screenwiter/director Stephen Gaghan at Caffe Luxxe on Friday afternoon in Santa Monica (photo from JustJared). Chances are they were meeting about something, but what could it be?
The only announced project that Gaghan is currently working on is an adaptation of the Jon Stock spy novel Dead Spy Running, the first of a possible trilogy of films/book about a newly trained spy who goes on a globe trotting adventure to exonerate his father. Gaghan is writing the screenplay for McG to direct. It is more than possible for an interested star to be involved in the development of the screenplay. And I’m not sure about you, but I can certainly picture Gyllenhaal in a Bourne-style spy action thriller.
But who knows. The meeting could be for some other project all together, or nothing at all. I just thought I’d post about it in the rumor mill since it’s going to be a slow weekend.
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That sounds interesting. :)
ReplyDeleteSo Jake hangs around in Santa Monica because of Austin? LOL Go to IHJ gallery and check out how many times he was photo oped there with the beard, including at Caffe Luxxe. It doesn’t mean anything, he might be sleeping with Austin or he might be sleeping with some other man/men. Whatever it is, he's obviously not happy in his personal life, spin as you wish, pics don't lie.
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ReplyDeleteApril 24 - Jake Meeting With Stephen Gaghan At Caffe Luxxe
You can't just make assumptions based on pics. That's just silly. I've had plenty of people ask me if something was wrong based on my expression only to have me tell them that nothing was wrong. I was simply thinking about some things I needed to take care of later or other equally innocous matters. I wasn't angry, upset or unhappy. Just lost in thought or pondering an issue. No big deal.And pics (and our eyes) do "lie" all of the time.
ReplyDeleteSome of you really need to stop projecting.
Jake has been papped in S. Monica with Reese and w/o Reese and even when Reese was in town he has been papped there solo going to that same place and others.
ReplyDeleteYou all know this btw, i don't need to link to the ihj pics to prove it. He has had several business lunches there as well. I have no idea what model car Austin drives but apparently you do.
Isee nothing different but people that are "disapointed" tend to see things that are not there.
"And pics (and our eyes) do "lie" all of the time."
ReplyDeleteNonsense.
"people that are "disapointed" tend to see things that are not there."
ReplyDeleteGive me a break.
Really, 9:17. How do you explain any given number of people seeing the same incident and each giving a different explanation?
ReplyDeleteWhy do you think no one relies on just eyewitness testimony to prove cases in court?
"And pics (and our eyes) do "lie" all of the time."
ReplyDeletePictures are evidence in court.
"So Jake hangs around in Santa Monica because of Austin? LOL Go to IHJ gallery and check out how many times he was photo oped there with the beard, including at Caffe Luxxe. It doesn’t mean anything, he might be sleeping with Austin or he might be sleeping with some other man/men. Whatever it is, he's obviously not happy in his personal life, spin as you wish, pics don't lie."
ReplyDeleteHe can be whatever he wants : straight, bi, gay , I don't care anymore.
But I think I will always like the "he's obviously not happy in his personal life, spin as you wish, pics don't lie." even if it sounds two cents psychology and appear bit pathethic.
Anyways I care about his movies projects and notice he looks really happy and confident in the Lunch pics ,so maybe he and Stephen talked about new project together.
As far I am concerned I love Stephen Gaghan and think a partnership would be great.
Pictures are only part of the evidence in court, part, which is 9:23's point. But if you want Jake to be miserable, as you wish.
ReplyDeleteI also the lunch turns into a project for Jake. Stephen reads like the kind of creative people Jake should be associating with. I hope this is a sign.
"Pictures are only part of the evidence in court, part, which is 9:23's point."
ReplyDeleteNo, pictures are the evidence.
9:42, that has never been the case in any trial in which I have sat on a jury. Maybe things are different where you live.
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ReplyDeletePlease stop playing stupid.
"But if you want Jake to be miserable, as you wish."
ReplyDeleteThere are a lot of pictures of miserable looking Jake. It has nothing to do with "our wishes".
"I also the lunch turns into a project for Jake. Stephen reads like the kind of creative people Jake should be associating with. I hope this is a sign."
ReplyDeleteDon't hold your breath!
Yes, pics do lie sometimes..
Pictures don't lie. Photographed people sometimes lie, fake and pretend.
ReplyDeleteRandom pics are not evidence, it's not that simple. It has to have some kind of relevance. Pics of a guy walking down the street with a grin on his face may or may not be related to being at a crime scene! lol
ReplyDeleteThere is absolutely no way anyone can tell someone's state of mind from a pic for sure. It's all circumstantial "evidence". ;)
I also hope that the meeting with Stephen Gaghan is about an upcoming project.
"Pictures don't lie. Photographed people sometimes lie, fake and pretend."
ReplyDeleteTotally correct in Jakey's case.
He plays pretend for a living, plays pretend when he's not working, I don't think Jakey knows what reality is anymore!
"The only announced project that Gaghan is currently working on is an adaptation of the Jon Stock spy novel Dead Spy Running, the first of a possible trilogy of films/book about a newly trained spy who goes on a globe trotting adventure to exonerate his father."
ReplyDeleteThis sounds great, but would they offer Jake such role after Rendition?
Jake is perfectly aware of what his reality is; you aren't.
ReplyDeleteBut we all love to speculate. This is a GOSSIP blog.
"Dead Spy Running - Gaghan is writing the screenplay for McG to direct."
ReplyDeleteWith the “Charlie’s Angels” films in his rearview mirror and “Terminator Salvation” opening next month, the director known as McG has the world of Hollywood blockbusters at his feet. So what’s next? How about a 139-year-old book?
“I’m working on ‘20,000 Leagues Under the Sea’ for Disney,” he told us when we caught up with him recently. “I’m prepping that.”
For those of you who don’t already know, “Leagues” is based on a book by sci-fi trailblazer Jules Verne. It tells the story of a crew who encounter a monstrous menace under the sea, getting thrown overboard while trying to catch the beast. They come to meet Captain Nemo, mastermind of a scheming plot on civilization. Now, all these decades after Verne originally imagined the adventure story, McG plans to re-interpret it for the CGI age.
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ReplyDelete^^^ So if Dead Spy Running speculations are true, it's another in-development project for Jake.
ReplyDeleteMcG is also working on the film adaptation of "Spring Awakening," which won 8 Tonys when it was on Broadway (it closed in January due to the bad economy). In the current issue of Fast Company, McG is talking about how he hopes to direct "Spring Awakening"--in six weeks and under budget. Because McG is a rock aficionado and veteran director of music videos, he naturally gravitated toward Spring Awakening alternative rock score (by Duncan Sheik--who won a Tony for his efforts). I was very apprehensive about McG directing the show (I saw it a few times and LOVED it) but after reading this article, I feel better about it. Looks like Zac Efron has a new project unless McG casts the lead from the show, Jonathan Groff (who's in Ang Lee's "Taking Woodstock"). Another actor from the show, Skylar Austin (who has SUCh a great voice) is also in "Taking Woodstock."
ReplyDeleteZac had enough of musicals:
ReplyDelete"Zac Efron Steps Out of Footloose: The High School Musical graduate exited the remake of the Kevin Bacon-led '80s classic because he felt another song-and-dance flick could thwart his transition into adult roles — which means he's looking for non-musicals."
"Totally correct in Jakey's case.
ReplyDeleteHe plays pretend for a living, plays pretend when he's not working, I don't think Jakey knows what reality is anymore!"
I am not sure you know what reality is either!
"This sounds great, but would they offer Jake such role after Rendition?"
ReplyDeleteYou wish they wouldn't !
He probably did meet with Gaghan about that role but I'm sure Gaghan will be meeting with other people about that role. It does sound like a possible franchise.
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ReplyDeleteDid you finish your homework? Does your mother know how much time you're spending on the Internet?
Anne Hathaway, who starred in "The Princess Diaries," is no princess. Hathaway - who'll appear this summer in the Shakespeare in the Park production of "Twelfth Night" - agreed to present an award at the 54th annual Village Voice Obie Awards on May 18 at Webster Hall, even though the charity event, to benefit small theaters and emerging talent, isn't providing the normal Hollywood perks: hair, makeup and limo. Macy's is sponsoring the after-party, hosted by Michael Musto.
ReplyDeleteI love Anne.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what to think about J&R anymore. I used to think she was too conservative to get into a serious relationship with a bisexual man. But who knows? Personally, it would be highly desirable, as long as he practiced safe sex. I remember as a very young person finding sex such a rewarding and spiritual experience I couldn't imagine gender having anything to do with the enjoyment of it. I asked my bf if he had ever done it with a guy, and of course, social mores being what they were at the time, he (figuratively) freaked out on me. Sigh. :)
Jake certainly could be in a committed relationship with a woman, and the risk of cheating with a man I would think would be no different than for a straight man cheating with a woman. The only problem I see is if he is gay and hiding behind a relationship with a woman, but I don't know how you measure that, sexuality is so fluid. Or if she doesn't know about it, but if they are both agreeable to it, who are we to say?
I'm sure what to think about Reeke - fake as October 2007 fake.
ReplyDelete"sexuality is so fluid"
ReplyDeleteGay people can turn into bi or straight at will?
Talk to Kinsey about that, not me. That wasn't what I said. I didn't say at will.
ReplyDelete"sexuality is so fluid"
ReplyDeleteGreat! That means gayness can be cured or I might turn straight over time!
This B list actress/singer tweener is a little older than the characters she portrays. She is tired of studios, managers, and agents telling her what to do and so as her first order of business with her new self she kicked her "boyfriend" to the curb. Oh, she likes guys, she just didn't want the arranged "boyfriend" any longer.
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Reese is in Brentwood, there are candids of her on thefashionspot.com (star style).
ReplyDeleteNo 1:20, it doesn't mean that at all. At least not in my definition of fluidity. Is it yours? Noone said anything about that, or that anything was wrong or needed curing, just the opposite. Stop looking for trouble.
ReplyDelete"Oh, she likes guys, she just didn't want the arranged "boyfriend" any longer."
ReplyDeletePoor girl, her managers and agents should do their job and find her someone cute! lol
"No 1:20, it doesn't mean that at all. At least not in my definition of fluidity. Is it yours?"
ReplyDeleteEnglish Dictionary: fluid - subject to change; changing or tending to change; variable:
"No 1:20, it doesn't mean that at all."
ReplyDeleteWhat did you mean by "sexuality is so fluid"?
I'll make it clearer - what I meant to say was that for some, sexuality can be a fluid thing, not set in stone, they are attracted to both sexes, could be in relationships with one or the other, and have been. For others, not. We've used that term a lot here. I just meant in terms of J, A and R. Maybe he was involved seriously with Austin, and isn't any longer, but they are still friends. Maybe now he's involved with Reese. Maybe he's still with Austin and it's all a front with Reese. I have no way to know.
ReplyDeleteAs if James Franco weren’t already a same-sex heartthrob after Milk, his student films are inspired by gay poetry. His first student film was based on “The Feast of Stephen” by Anthony Hecht (“Boys for the first time frankly eye each other …”), and his most recent was inspired by “Herbert White” by Frank Bidart. At a Gucci-hosted cocktail party for an art film called Erased James Franco, Franco said he discovered Bidart while studying poetry at Warren Wilson College in North Carolina.
ReplyDelete“This teacher brought it into class, and everybody was kinda shocked. It’s very dark and it’s about this guy. He’s a murderer, a necrophiliac, and it’s in a poem, right?” said Franco. “What struck me is that it’s a kind of a confessional poem, or a dramatic monologue. It’s as if the poet is using this crazy man as a mask to express certain feelings and go to an extreme place where those feelings could be felt.” Later, he met Bidart through one of his NYU professors. “Nobody was really beating down his door to make a movie out of it—I don’t think most poets get movies out.” Bidart told Franco he’d based the poem on a case study he’d read. “He took that and then infused a lot of his own feelings growing up in Bakersfield, California, being a young gay man in the closet, having nobody to express his feelings to, and also looking for cultural outlets and not really having them,” said Franco. “He took all of those issues and fused them into this one personality. I guess Yeats talks about this anti-self. It’s using this character, putting your own feelings into them, and putting him in the situation you are in, but then not giving him the recourse of becoming the poet he became.” Or a filmmaker. Michael Shannon will play the lead. Franco is also starring as Allen Ginsberg in the upcoming Howl.
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" remember as a very young person finding sex such a rewarding and spiritual experience I couldn't imagine gender having anything to do with the enjoyment of it."
ReplyDelete1:39, acc'g to Kinsey you are an "omnisexual" which means you will fuck any sentient and perhaps non-sentient being and find it a rewarding and spiritual experience.
"what I meant to say was that for some, sexuality can be a fluid thing, not set in stone, they are attracted to both sexes, could be in relationships with one or the other, and have been."
ReplyDeleteIt's called bisexuality.
"Pansexuality, or omnisexuality is a sexual orientation characterized by the potential for aesthetic attraction, romantic love, or sexual desire for people, regardless of their gender identity or biological sex. Some pansexuals suggest that they are gender-blind; that gender and sex are insignificant or irrelevant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others"
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No, 2:10 I was strictly talking about human gender, which makes me a bisexual.
ReplyDeleteObjectum sexuality or Objektsexualität in German, is a pronounced sexual and or emotional desire towards particular inanimate objects. Those individuals with this expressed preference may feel strong feelings of arousal, attraction, love and commitment to certain items or structures of their fixation. For some, sexual or even close emotional relationships with humans are incomprehensible.
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this is one of the stupidist conversations yet.
ReplyDelete"human gender" if there is such a phrase to begin with
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please be more precise. and tell us what makes you climax
thanks in advance
What's next? Post your favorite sex toy? (I'm joking :)
ReplyDeleteObjektsexualitäts unite! People are shit. Go around poking each other in the assholes.
ReplyDeleteLove me my pulsating cellphone!
Ever try sittin' on your washing machine, spin cycle?
ReplyDelete2:29 PM,
ReplyDeleteyou should use smaller vibrator and save energy!
I see the Jake is bisexual proponent is back. Keep selling.
ReplyDeleteIf I hear of one more project for Jake that has no written script yet, I'll scream. That seems to be all he can get these days, promises of maybe someday.
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Damn Yankees
Dead Spy Running?
"Franco's student films inspired by gay poetry - He took that and then infused a lot of his own feelings growing up in Bakersfield, California, being a young gay man in the closet, having nobody to express his feelings to, and also looking for cultural outlets and not really having them,” said Franco."
ReplyDeleteThat's cool.
James Franco’s Anti-Self - comment:
ReplyDelete"so is he going to come out of the closet soon or not? isn't he currently living with his boyfriend in manhattan? pretty brazen if you ask me. it might hurt his career a bit, but if everyone thinks like that everyone stays in the closet forever, right? it's 2009, come on, james."
By rob_s on 04/24/2009
I read yesterday that Joseph Gordon-Levitt has joined the cast of "Inception," replacing James Franco who had to drop out due to a work conflict. "Inception" is Christopher Nolan's new project--he's filming it this summer.
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