In high school, I always loved movies; yet, I always looked at them passively. Only rarely did I become involved in the events or with the characters I saw on screen. In fact, prior to Brokeback Mountain I can't think of a single instance when I felt a profound emotional reaction to a film. I remember getting a little choked up while watching the end of Jonathan Demme's Philadelphia, but that's as close as it ever got to my becoming emotionally invested in situations taking place in a movie.
I watched Brokeback Mountain with my father on opening weekend back in late 2005 — though we had actually gone to see Capote instead. When we tried to buy tickets, we realized there was only one showing of Capote four or five hours later. Brokeback Mountain, however, was playing in just an hour; so, we bought two tickets and went to Borders to wait.
Since at the store they had a display with E. Annie Proulx's short story, my father and I each grabbed a copy and read it while we waited to see the movie, which had been getting phenomenal reviews. Curiously, I remember feeling underwhelmed by the short story. I thought to myself, "I don't even know if I'm excited to see this movie anymore." But since we had already bought the tickets, there wasn't really any turning back.
Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger in "Brokeback Mountain"
After the hour passed, we went in. As I sat there watching Brokeback Mountain unfold, something changed within me. I don't know what caused it exactly, but I remember that I started crying when Gustavo Santaolalla's "The Wings" began playing while Jack and Ennis are at the campfire. I had never, ever cried because of a movie. And frankly, I did not understand how or why anyone would. Still, as I sat there in the theater, I could not contain my tears.
Eventually, I stopped crying, but the tears began streaming down once again when Ennis collects Jack's shirt and hugs it, fighting to hold on to the man he loved. I shed more tears at the end of the film, when Ennis opens his closet door, looks at the shirt, and the credits slowly start to roll.
I don't know why, but ever since that first time I saw Brokeback Mountain, my entire movie-watching experience has been radically different. After that, I have revisited movies I had seen before; suddenly, I was looking at them in a new light; at times, I was able to connect with them where before I had been emotionally and/or intellectually detached.
In addition, whether or not I'm watching a movie for the first time, I have been able to find layers to characters and settings that would have been out of my reach before. In essence, Brokeback Mountain made me realize how much I truly love the art of film. It also inspired me to start writing about it.
I mustered the courage to start posting my film commentaries online only in 2008 or whereabouts, but I had never considered writing about movies prior to Brokeback Mountain. In a profound way, that same-sex love story set in the American West made me realize there were tangible differences between bad cinema, good cinema, and great cinema. Needless to say, I'm fully aware that my Brokeback Mountain experience was exceptional, for having such a visceral response to any film is something quite unique.
Even though I cannot fully explain my personal reaction to the film, I must credit the filmmakers for it. Had Brokeback Mountain not been crafted the way it was, I find it impossible to believe that I would have been so deeply affected by it. After all, I had felt quite unenthusiastic after reading E. Annie Proulx's short story.
I have watched Brokeback Mountain many times since that first viewing. My experience has been different each time, but the film's power has never been lost. As we grow, our experiences change; our hope is that they will change not for the worse, but for the better. Thanks to Brokeback Mountain, I can happily say that mine have been forever changed for the better.
Source: Meditations on BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN: Multilayered Love Story
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«Oldest ‹Older 1801 – 2000 of 2704 Newer› Newest»"We have explained that 1.000 times". Well the troll is right about that. They just go on and on about it like they really think that is going to convince us of anything.
Stroke a kitty cat too while you're at it.
LOL, and love the avatar PG.
Keep deluding yourself that the only people who believe in BT are a handful of looney OMG Jaustinites.
And keep deluding yourself that people here don't see you stirring and then jumping up and down and talking about all those anonymous OMGers who flock here.
It's always good for a laugh.
Oh calm down. You really have a flair for exaggeration.
Here's a novel idea - you believe what you want, the handfull of you, and let others believe what they want.
Keep deluding yourself that the only people who believe in BT are a handful of looney OMG Jaustinites.
Where are these great masses of people who believe in all the Baby Tiles?
LOL
'm not talking about the space age. Even a 3 or 4 year old needs to interact with the outside world without being afraid to say who they are.
That 3 letter acronym is just your latest favorite little toy, isn't it. So classy. You're also setting yourself a writing pattern.
I'm not talking about the space age; the future can be the next 3-6 months. If you know how to predict the next 3-6 months, you need to get a patent for that talent.
And you still won't address that real issue because you can't.
I'm addressing, you're just ignoring. I'm right here. There have been numerous discussions regarding changes in Jake's behavior and living habits since 2007, dates given, pictures and videos discussed, factual events regarding how long Jake & Austin have been together (since 2002) so I'm not rehashing all of that.
I have based my belief in Jaustin & their children on actual timelines documenting facts and details of what we know.
I'm not sure who you two are addressing, but I don't know why you want to divide people into sides - personally I believe that the BT story could be real, or it might not be. I'm not sure, but I do like to follow it. But I'm not on a crusade about it. There are no true facts.
You need to knock off the bullying.
Stroke a kitty cat too while you're at it.
Is your pussy available. Oh wait, on second thoughts...
Run along peegee and conjure up your fangurl slash, as J&A reality is not being kind to you today.
Lately its been a little difficult to believe J&A are parents of not one, not two, but possibly three children with them both being gone separately for extremely long periods of time. These children never seem to grow up either, they stay in Never Never land as perennial toddlers it seems.
Destiny and PG are quite entertaining themselves -
These children never seem to grow up either, they stay in Never Never land as perennial toddlers it seems.
LOL! Yes Baby "Peter Pan" Tile never ages! How convenient to forget that BT has a birthday every year.
But I'm not on a crusade about it.
You need to knock off the bullying.
Who's on a crusade? How often do I even post over here?
And who's bullying? I don't see profanity acronyms and comments like 22:31 coming off of my fingers.
The false accusations here today have just been totally unbelievable.
Hey, it's been a great day! No complaints from me. I had an awesome day at work - learned a lot and I get four more hours tomorrow along with more free snacks! So go ahead - take another shot. I'm still smiling.
;D
Hey, it's been a great day!
Yes, I'm sure you were happy to see Austin ad Sophia at Lakers while the "husband" is with his family in NYC.
Keep deluding yourself that the only people who believe in BT are a handful of looney OMG Jaustinites.
There are no other believers, just handful of OMG Jaustinites. You know that, we know that.
"We have explained that 1.000 times".
Well the troll is right about that. They just go on and on about it like they really think that is going to convince us of anything.
This isn't OMG - people who don't believe in BT aren't trolls.
Jaustinites keep ignoring facts and reality so they can't be convinced, they have to pretend to believe in their own fiction.
Anonymous said...
"We have explained that 1.000 times".
Well the troll is right about that. They just go on and on about it like they really think that is going to convince us of anything.
This isn't OMG - people who don't believe in BT aren't trolls.
Jaustinites keep ignoring facts and reality so they can't be convinced, they have to pretend to believe in their own fiction.
Trolls don't seem to sleep.
3:21 AM - this is NOT OMG.
Here on WFT2 people who don't believe in J&A and BTs are NOT trolls.
Sorry, no one can take seriously people who base their Jake and Austin are parents "arguments" only on wishful thinking and ignoring facts.
scottmoore5: @AUS10NICHOLS @SophiaBush u both met my brothr at a weddin his gf was in last summer :) he has a pic of himself & @SophiaBush on his mantle!
about 2 hours ago
MakylaYall: WHY DOES JAME GYLLENHAAL ALWAYS GETS TO FUCK WITH TE SPACE CONTINUUM?????????? @davecandoit
about 2 hours ago
serg0007: Just saw Jake Gyllenhaal at Brooklyn Bowl...*swoon...sigh*
about 4 hours ago
The false accusations here today have just been totally unbelievable.
LOL! They are called D.I.F.F.E.R.E.N.T O.P.I.N.I.O.N.S
You are unbelievable. Poor Peegee, pissed that the choir here doesn't sing to her tune. LOL!!
Ryan Gosling: Three String Guitar in New York City!
Ryan Gosling plays a three-string guitar as he strolls the streets of New York City on Thursday (May 5).
JJ
Now we know why Jake is in the town too! :)
Where have I put my trumpet?
LOL :)
Jake, just do it!
I'm not gloating about it. Why? Because what they are doing right now is stupid. It's a waste of their time and energy. But hey, it's their choice and they'll have to pay the consequences later.
Talk about "A Waste Of Time"?
No those words did not come from your fingers PeeGee.
You come over here trying to convince others of your fables of Jake and Austin having children, secertly hiding and bearding is stupid at best.
Just think of what you are saying. Just think. It's stupid and reads like some fairytale or some made for TV melodrama. Hidden children after all the time invested in having them? Years of Austin with Sophia, not Jake? More than one hidden baby? Jake seen with others and their children, but not his? Saying he's NOT a FATHER in interviews?
It's a FairyTale and a waste of time. Well, maybe you have alot of time on your hand.
The waste of time is your total investment in this story you have created in your head.
Ryan Gosling plays a three-string guitar as he strolls the streets of New York City on Thursday (May 5).
Sigh.
When in Rome... do as the Romans do, as the saying goes.
And Hollywood actor Vin Diesel proved to be quite the Italian stallion during a recent trip to the city to promote his new film Fast Five.
The 43-year-old star, who is understood to still be dating model Paloma Jimenez, the mother of his child, is seen here at an after-party getting very touchy-feely with not one but two mystery women.
...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1383949/Vin-Diesel-gets-Fast-Furious-enjoys-dancefloor-sandwich-TWO-mystery-women.html
Not believing in BT or that J&A are not together does not make someone a troll, and no one is saying that.
However, calling Tom a moron, and making fun of PG and OMG and doing other things to stir and try to make people here turn against OMG does make you a troll Jack.
Nobody from OMG comes here and starts conversations about BT or Austin, but yes, they're going to say something if you slam them. Like carrying on about how everyone at OMG must be suicidal because of the Lakers photos and the Caville story you posted to help stir things up.
The only one looking to "convert" anyone is you Jack, and a few babblers who get all sanctimonious and try to save Jake from "the gay".
Anonymous said...
3:21 AM - this is NOT OMG.
Here on WFT2 people who don't believe in J&A and BTs are NOT trolls.
Sorry, no one can take seriously people who base their Jake and Austin are parents "arguments" only on wishful thinking and ignoring facts.
Troll, Dave Cullenites, Babblers, OTH groupies kind of think alike.
Not believing in BT or that J&A are not together does not make someone a troll, and no one is saying that.
WTF? Now we can't read?
For God's sake stop playing stupid and insulting us with obvious lies.
Not believing in BT or that J&A are not together does not make someone a troll, and no one is saying that.
Destiny, here is just one of 100.000 examples of J&A believer calling everyone else a troll:
Troll has no sense of humor. Jake is probably headed to NY for Mothers day. I wonder if the troll will still be here 5 years from now still claiming that just because we do not see Jake and Austin together that Jake is not gay and they are not together. The argument does not work now and wont work then either. Maybe Jake will be out by then.
Like carrying on about how everyone at OMG must be suicidal because of the Lakers photos and the Caville story you posted to help stir things up.
Posting Austin and Sophia's photos is now "stirring things up"? Oops!!!!
The only one looking to "convert" anyone is you Jack, and a few babblers who get all sanctimonious and try to save Jake from "the gay".
Here we go again, pretending that we are arguing about gay Jake. Or Destiny believes that admiting Ted is wrong about BT would turn Jake straight? She doesn't see that insane arguments about BT will convince people that Toothy Tile / gay Jake is a lie too.
Anonymous said...
The only one looking to "convert" anyone is you Jack, and a few babblers who get all sanctimonious and try to save Jake from "the gay".
Here we go again, pretending that we are arguing about gay Jake. Or Destiny believes that admiting Ted is wrong about BT would turn Jake straight? She doesn't see that insane arguments about BT will convince people that Toothy Tile / gay Jake is a lie too.
That is a funny one. Take a look back at the Reese and Talyor romances. If you believe they were real I got a lake to sell you in the sShara. Jake is gay
^Sahara
Anonymous said...
Like carrying on about how everyone at OMG must be suicidal because of the Lakers photos and the Caville story you posted to help stir things up.
Posting Austin and Sophia's photos is now "stirring things up"? Oops!!!!
Do you really think Sophin had the lknd of clout to get those seats on their own. They were either from Jake or promo for OTH. Work related you know. Don't take a genius to figure that out.
Take a look back at the Reese and Talyor romances. If you believe they were real I got a lake to sell you in the sShara. Jake is gay
Why don't you read posts before commenting them? Who said or suggested that Jake isn't gay?
Do you really think Sophin had the lknd of clout to get those seats on their own. They were either from Jake or promo for OTH. Work related you know. Don't take a genius to figure that out.
Sophia doesn't need Jake to get good tickets. Read comments, we know that was a photo op.
Oh please, the OMG gang dishes it out as good as it gets. There are numerous unprovoked posts that namecall - PG does it all the time, and over at OMG, her Id is allowed to run amok, but not over here. You all have your own writing styles, or imitations of other writing styles, which is the sincerest form of flattery.
And incidentally, just because some may disagree with you about the existence of a BT, it doesn't mean anything about what we may or may not think about Jake's sexuality.
9:57, that post you recopied has M's "M.O." written all over it. S/he has two main phrases "The Troll etc. etc." and "Ted must have a bombshell ..." or some such wording. They haven't written that one in awhile tho. :)
Sorry, you are not deterring me. You will not intimidate me.
I don't think anybody cares enough to be bothered. You go ahead and rant away.
That is a funny one. Take a look back at the Reese and Talyor romances. If you believe they were real I got a lake to sell you in the sShara. Jake is gay
Wow. Do you even bother to read posts? How many times does someone have to point out that Jake being gay isn't dependent on Austin and isn't dependent on the existence on the ever-changing number of Baby Tiles? Why do you keep insisting that these things are related?
Why do you keep insisting that these things are related?
1. That way it is easier to shout troll whenever people don't agree.
2. It is easier to repeat bullshit like that than answer questions about nonexisting BTs and nonexisting J&A relationship.
Thank Gawd for 11:02am S/he speaks the truth!
I <3 11:02am
PG was a lovely person at one time, so nice that she became OMG's Ambassador, but I do believe she is being put up to mischief by certain nefarious OMG'ers. Tom and SpecialK are the classy ones. I'm sure they have quite a few readers due to SpecialK's clever and informative posts, but the vocal, pot-stirring ones are the Gang of Four.
Thanks!
When PG gets caught out, she re-writes history and deletes her posts. LOL!!
One of the "benefits" of having a regular blogger name! ;)
I'll stick with anons...they are more nice and rational!
LOL :)
The troll does not even need to identify himself anymore. Same old tired verbiage. Still not making any headway.
I don't think anyone needs to make any headway - it's all in your minds.
11:51 AM - which posts are from the troll? Give us few examples if you can. Can you?
Nobody from OMG comes here and starts conversations about BT or Austin blah blah blah.
See post from May 5, 6:03 am, crack of dawn.
Oops, sorry, sunset. Sunup to sunset.
I have no problem with anyone discussing Jake, Austin and BTs. I belive I'm not the only one who thinks that way.
The problem are people who don't want discussion because they can't be wrong, don't answer questions, don't explain reasons for their opinion, people who keep their "proof" in secret files and people who treat others like idiots by playing stupid.
Happy Birthday George!
12:34, ITA - and can we add mind-reading and speaking for others to that list?
Happy Birthday George!
people who keep their "proof" in secret files and people who treat others like idiots by playing stupid.
Oh, we're so sorry. Here, have a Puffs.
1:39 PM - you are sorry about posting "proof in secret files" bullshit? You should be.
Someone's getting upset.
Who?
Sophia Bush & Austin Nicholas @ Staples Center in Los Angeles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Upfctd38eI
No one's hiding anything. Cry me a river. We've been over on OMG discussing and posting links, dates and pictures re: BT for the past 2 1/2-3 years. There's no way you can keep all of this stuff in your head. You can't. That's why documentation has proven invaluable.
There's no secret clubs. There's no secret emails. Sometimes what you put into things is what you get out of them. Some of us on OMG have really extended ourselves to each other and made great friendships. I've had some great trips just through blogging on OMG.
Is that some kind of qualification to access of this information? Of course not. We don't have anymore than what everyone else here does. What we share "in secret" is discussion. We air things out. We "float" ideas. We vent.
You want me to apologize for making these friendships? For having fun, sometimes even downright arguments, on the telephone?
Bullshit. Go fly that flag somewhere else. I will not nor should anyone ever have to apologize for personal emails and private phone calls.
Heavy Sigh.
Friendship and commaderie is always an open invitation. To anyone who offers in good faith and without ulterior motive.
Not many are comfortable extending themselves on the internet. I never have been - been burned sometimes but most of the time, I have been totally blessed. I have made lifetime friends in Destiny, Special, Tom, m, Seaweed, Wicked and M&M.
I wouldn't trade their friendships for the world - the value is totally worth the ridicule and accusations being seen here today.
Be careful about how much TT information you keep in your head, space is limited.
Want me to keep on talking, Heavy Sigh, I will. You're just making it worse.
Knock yourself out, PG.
You want me to apologize for making these friendships? For having fun, sometimes even downright arguments, on the telephone?
What are you even talking about? Who asked you to do that? No one. And that has nothing to do with all your claims of documented facts that there are all these Baby Tiles out there. All you've done is twist random incidents, pictures, etc. to fit what you want to believe. It can be done to fit almost any scenario. Real "detective" work starts with an open mind and without an agenda. You don't have an open mind about J&A and you have an agenda to prove they are together with a family. So you're working backwards, trying to fit things to what you believe.
Now you're claiming someone is asking you to apologize for friendships. No one did and no one cares, but you say it so you can paint yourself as the martyr.
I think people would think it's wonderful that you have made good friends, PG - but that is irrelevant to the discussion.
No one's hiding anything.
YOU said that there is secret Word file. Are you taking that back?
There's no secret clubs. There's no secret emails.
OMG club is not very secret, but it exists and is private - some OMG posters exchange info via e-mails, we know that for years.
prairiegirl said...
...
I'm not accepting crap just because you say so. See, here's the difference. Someone I know has taken the time gathering pictures, articles on the internet, interviews, twitter, facebook, and the study & putting together of dates on timelines to put together our theories.
These theories & timelines involve the two guys' meeting during auditions for TDAT and their relationship/breakup/reunion/family formation since that time.
I'm talking hard copy in a Word document. Dates. Specific events. Pictures. Internet posts. Interviews/quotes.
It's all documented. Can you say the same? Or are you just going to say words like "always" and "never" and "have to accept"?
When you look at these timelines, you better believe these guys' stories come to life with a light switch and an A-Ha. That's what it's taken for me and I no longer doubt at all.
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April 19, 2011 1:30 PM
I have made lifetime friends in Destiny, Special, Tom, m, Seaweed, Wicked and M&M.
That's really nice.
I would only suggest that you take a little time to agree and write down official story for the rest of the fandom so you wouldn't forget what you can share about Word documents and other top secret info available only to OMG club members.
What are you even talking about? Who asked you to do that? No one. And that has nothing to do with all your claims of documented facts that there are all these Baby Tiles out there. All you've done is twist random incidents, pictures, etc. to fit what you want to believe. It can be done to fit almost any scenario. Real "detective" work starts with an open mind and without an agenda. You don't have an open mind about J&A and you have an agenda to prove they are together with a family. So you're working backwards, trying to fit things to what you believe.
Now you're claiming someone is asking you to apologize for friendships. No one did and no one cares, but you say it so you can paint yourself as the martyr.
^^ Well Said, Well said....
Especially this part:
Real "detective" work starts with an open mind and without an agenda. You don't have an open mind about J&A and you have an agenda to prove they are together with a family. So you're working backwards, trying to fit things to what you believe
An Agenda much....
I love this little community , not for its content but for its entertainment value.
Chut up!
Some people have been around this community for five years now, and for them it's not a matter of working backwards, but working forward.
As long as you hurl around "Jaustinite" like it's a bad word like f*gggot or haus frau and attack people for their ideas you're going to get called what you are, a troll.
8:55 PM - don't forget that others are here for a long time too.
Yes, there is a real troll who posts here and on OMG, but WFT2 posters are TBs who don't believe in J&A and BTs and they are not trolls.
I don't think people do hurl around the term "Jaustinite" like it's a bad word. Nice try, tho. I think you may mean Jaustiloon.
Jaustinite, Jaustaloon, same thing, thrown around as an insult.
Well, somebody has to take the high road, might as well be you.
No one worked backwards. For those who have followed Jake since BBM the facts have emerged from observation. Latecomers are at a disadvantage.
The trolls biggest misconception is that we give a rats ass what he thinks. We draw conclusions from facts not rants.
and for them it's not a matter of working backwards, but working forward.
As long as you hurl around "Jaustinite" like it's a bad word like f*gggot or haus frau and attack people for their ideas you're going to get called what you are, a troll.
I don't use the word "Jaustinite" and I've never used any of those other words either. You can't accept the fact that there is more than one person posting here who doesn't agree with your opinion so you just blindly throw around "troll." There's nothing at all trollish about my comment, but that's just your response to everything you can't answer apparently.
i think ryan gosling is ugly
11:30 PM - you draw conclusions only from your wishful thinking - you ignore facts or lie about facts.
You are spinning Ted's gossip into more that one BTs after Ted, more than once, sad "a BT".
You keep calling trolls TBs who use facts, common sense and logic to form their opinion.
i think ryan gosling is ugly
Ugly? I don't think that's the case. I think he is sexy and that compensates for the lack of classically good looks. I think he's a bit on the pretentious side, but there are many, many worse young actors in that regard.
He's a talented actor and will stay around for a long while.
i'll rephrase...he's unattractive and to me, unsexy, unappealing, dry as dust.
as to his acting ability/longevity - wasn't the issue and a big "who cares?"
^^Ok, I get it you're not a fan of Ryan's. LOL. It's your prerogative. ;)
Jaustinite, Jaustaloon, same thing, thrown around as an insult.
Not the same thing at all.
What should we call people who insist that insane theories are the truth or could be truth?
@7:53 right :)
I am, however, a JBG fan, but lately he has seemed kind of creepy. Don't know why, exactly.
Maybe I should go back under my rock.
SOPHIA BUSH AND AUSTIN NICHOLS / NY PIX MORNING NEWS INTERVIEW
Austin: "We have been dating for a long time."
Video uploaded on Dec 10, 2010 but I didn't know that Austin said that.
My dream finally came true.
Yes...my dream.
Because I have actually day dreamed about running into my future husband someday.
Mr. Jake Gyllenhaal.
Let me set the scene...
Date:
Tuesday May 3rd, 2011
Time:
3:11 PM
Place:
8th Avenue @ Greenwich
(just south of 14th Street)
Cast of Characters:
Cute Young SINGLE Gay Man........................Joe Drake
Strapping & Sexy Perfect SINGLE Specimen............Jake Gyllenhaal
Cute 8 Year Old Girl.................Maggie Gyllenhaal's daughter (or at least I think)
I was on my phone - deep into updating my Facebook status.
Yes, updating my Facebook status while walking the busy streets of NYC.
Absolutely not paying attention to anything...hoping the cabs, buses and bikers steer clear.
Before I knew it I was looking at a pair of feet...
of whom I assumed belonged to some annoying passerby on the street.
I looked up quickly and within a split second my heart sank...deep.
I realized it was the moment I had day dreamed about for years.
I have seen a lot of celebrities since moving to New York...
but I have never been lucky enough to see one of my favorites leading men.
I quickly apologized and ran away as fast as I could from the situation.
I would have loved to have said something - but you know...star struck.
Plus that little child was quite the hinderence.
Sorry Maggie. Your daughter is adorable - but she's QUITE the cock block.
Jake was very sweet and said "Don't worry about it" as he flashed his perfect smile.
We were so close to each other that as I quickly escaped this awkward moment
another one of my dreams came true.
I HAD MADE PHYSICAL CONTACT WITH JAKE GYLLENHAAL.
Okay.....FINE!!!
Our shoulders grazed for half a second.
But - in my mind - we made love.
Sweet passionate sweaty love.
All in all - this situation took place within a matter of seconds
but I shall never forget the day that I met the future Mrs. Joe Drake.
And...scene.
http://www.joedraketheblog.com/2011/05/jake-gyllenhaal-sighting.html
carachelx: my dad has just seen jake gyllenhaal in new york:( so so so so so so so so jealous
about 13 hours ago
LafeJordan: @ChrisFranjola @sarahcolonna You're dating? No way! Is this like a low-rent version of when Taylor Swift "dated" Jake Gyllenhaal? #Franlonna
about 14 hours ago
Cute 8 Year Old Girl.................Maggie Gyllenhaal's daughter (or at least I think)
8 year old? LOL. Seriously, even if you're not familiar with kids, who would think Ramona is 8?
Maggie and Ramona
Ramona is a big girl :)
I would have loved to have said something - but you know...star struck.
Plus that little child was quite the hinderence.
Just Jake and Ramona taking a walk? :)
Seriously, even if you're not familiar with kids, who would think Ramona is 8?
Jake and Matilda?
Ramona is a big girl :)
Cute pic, but I don't think she looks anywhere near 8 in that pic either. Maybe he's just a guy who doesn't know a lot about kids.
Jake and Matilda?
Nah. Matilda is nowhere near 8 either, plus, I don't think anyone familiar with Jake (as this guy obviously is) would mistake Matilda for Ramona. Aside from the fact that I don't believe Jake would just be walking down the street with Matilda (at least w/o Michelle being there, too).
Jake and BT? :)
It was probably Ramona. That guy seems to have no clue about kids.
When Jake visits M & M (and I believe he does), it's probably only indoors. Michelle is very paranoid about pap attention, even moreso in the recent months or year it seems. I also think she worries about people starting to talk about her and Jake if they ever see them together. I may be in the minority to think that the dating rumors with Ryan bothered her a bit. I don't think she wants to come of as someone who goes around a lot. I wonder if she and Spike Jonze are really on again? I think he would be a good match for her and maybe she'll start to relax a litte more in a safe relationship.
He is a top.
SOPHIA BUSH AND AUSTIN NICHOLS / NY PIX MORNING NEWS INTERVIEW
Body language - good job, Sophia!
Yes we knew Henry is a top as soon as he was linked with known to be a bottom Jake.
Austin may have said they were dating a long time but the hesitation and evasiveness reveal it for the lie that it is. Bearding for his relationship with Jake and pressure by CW to be a couple for the benefit of OTH both good reasons to pretend. The eyes say it all.
I forgot where, but I once read that Jake was a top. I assume like many younger gay men, he likes both.
What are you 3:24, top or bottom?
I'm a sex machine, man, movin' and doin' it, you know!
ballistictony: Just helped out Jake Gyllenhaal.
about 2 hours
Just saw the Sophia / Austin interview. What's with the gay fans here that continues with this idea that they are not dating? They have said the are dating, what's wrong with believing them?
It does not take away that there could have been a BBF with benefits of J/A. I'm one who believes if it ever was, it's now over. There are many men who date and have sex with women who occasionally have sex with men on the side or once in a while. Women do the same with other women. It's not my place to judge them, but it does happen. Why do the slash writers, and the J/A is gay only fans don't open their minds towards others possibility of a varied sexuality. This acceptance happens more often with the younger generation, that's why gays and same sex marriages are more accepted by many people (NOW).
I know the Jake and Austin lovefest forever crowd will never see this.
Surely some of the gay men/boys who frequent this site know of men who participate with both sexes, women also. I'm sure some gay men and women here have at least in the past. You don't have to use the labels gay, bi, bicurious, whatever, but it happens.
I think Austin and Sophia are dating and nothings wrong with it at all unless you have some agenda.
And do remember, I said I (do) think Austin and Jake had something in the past. No agenda here. Just observation and an open mind.
a7xcharlaay: Jake Gyllenhaal is at the RED SOX game!!(:
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They have said the are dating, what's wrong with believing them?
I don't follow Sophia and Austin gossip, but during their early photo ops and attending events they didn't manage to look like a real couple.
P.S. And since they are longtime friends and actors I expected Austin to be more convincing around his "girlfriend".
They have said the are dating, what's wrong with believing them?
I remember time when they started tweeting - you shouldn't believe publicity whores something just because they said it.
anon 5:50 I don't follow them either. I just find it hard to believe that they are often together as a couple traveling around the world just for show and photo ops. They travel as a couple everywhere. I just don't think it's fake. Besides, this has been going on for some years now.
Traveling, doing promo and meeting people from the industry (like in Austria) - it's not like Austin has something better to do with his time.
Besides, this has been going on for some years now.
They are working on the same show for years now. And would like to work on the same show for another year.
This acceptance happens more often with the younger generation, that's why gays and same sex marriages are more accepted by many people (NOW).
It's just the opposite - there are less gay men who pretend to like girls too.
I think Austin and Sophia are dating and nothings wrong with it at all unless you have some agenda.
Sophia was caught in a lie when she talked about her "relationship" with Austin. Things aren't so simple.
it's not like Austin has something better to do with his time.
Apparently he don't, and would rather spend time with (her). My point exactly. That also throws out the idea he's rushing to be by Jake's side.
It's just the opposite - there are less gay men who pretend to like girls too.
You still don't get it. Are you aware that I am talking about men and or women who deal with, (have sex) with both sexes? Ofcourse, secretly and behind closed doors, especially the males. Women usually have an I don't care who knows attitude. You can call them gay if you like, but there are many men who deal with men on the side or occasionally, but will still be primarily involved with women. Many a gay men / boys know this and will deal with them. Called them what you want and maybe the title / label is correct whatever it is, but it does happen.
Totally gay men know of these types of men and some deal with them when they don't have to, but they do.
Some men will deal with each other sexually behind closed doors but have no intentions of living a gay lifestyle.
I put J/A in this category.
I saw a biography of Cary Grant, and I am at least 90% sure he and his best bud who lived with him were more than best friends. Grant father a child later and married at least twice I think. There were big rumors about he and his buddy Randolph Scott (I think his name is).
They lived together.
Cary Grant was a Mega Star in his time.
Austin and Jake are both gay. The only reason they are not out is because of their careers. That's why they both beard. Austin is as awkward around Sophia Bush as Jake was around Reese and Taylor Swift. It has nothing to do with a gay lifestyle. Whatever the heck that is.
Right now, Sophin is being pushed because of the CW. We should know by May 19th whether Season 9 is going to be picked up. The whole Lakers game the other day was paid for by the CW to see what kind of audience reaction/support they got. Why else would you have gazillions of photos taken of two nobodies. The photos, which were later shipped on Just Jared, were part of the selling of Sophin as a couple. It's all make-believe. Remember, Austin allegedly dated someone from 1997-2004. No engagement there either. He's gay. Get over it.
no need to get over anything.
If he said he was gay and dating Jake your ass would believe it and use the statement as evidence.
plain and simple.
You don't know anything about Austin as a true fact. You can talk about beard, gay, Photo ops from here to kingdom come, but it don't mean a thing. Could he be hiding and in the closet, Yes, so true, but you don't know it as a fact and just like others, it's only speculation cupcake, no matter how you twist it.
He said he is dating Sophia.
You deal with that!
It's his statement.
Now spin body language and bearding to suit your cause.
Don't get mad at me, Austin said it.
Anonymous said...
Besides, this has been going on for some years now.
They are working on the same show for years now. And would like to work on the same show for another year.
Aisle Clean Up at 11:06, please!!!
Could he be hiding and in the closet, Yes, so true, but you don't know it as a fact
It's as good as fact. Bank on it.
ive posted this before but Grey Goose gave me some great head in the backroom at Greg's Blue Dot.
by: mhb reply 527 01/02/2011 @ 04:07PM
Who is Grey Goose and where is Greg's Blue Dot?
by: Anonymous reply 528 01/02/2011 @ 06:07PM
I have no idea what Greg's Blue Dot is, but Grey Goose is supposedly Austin Nichols.
by: Anonymous reply 529 01/02/2011 @ 07:54PM
Austin and Sophia have known each other for years. They attended college together. They were both single with no reason to hide the fact that they were dating but yet they never said boo about it. During that time she married got divorced and lived with the guy that plays the basketball player for several years. No effort was made to keep any of that secret at the time. The only reason they now claim to have been dating is to provide cover for Austins real life and because CW pushes its actors to pretend to be in relationships. Just another case of rewriting history that comes off totally unbelievable.
What's with the gay fans here that continues with this idea that they are not dating? They have said the are dating, what's wrong with believing them?
1.) Because this is a site for unbelief. Hello, you came here, nobody forced you. And we basically keep it here.
2.) What's with the assumption everyone here is a gay fan?
What's with the gay fans here that continues with this idea that they are not dating? They have said the are dating, what's wrong with believing them?
1.) Because this is a site for unbelief. Hello, you came here, nobody forced you. And we basically keep it here.
2.) What's with the assumption everyone here is a gay fan?
Sorry for the dupo. But maybe it needed saying twice.
You don't know anything about Austin as a true fact. You can talk about beard, gay, Photo ops from here to kingdom come, but it don't mean a thing.
Acording to what rule, why don't it mean a thing?
To you, maybe. But then that house of cards goes tumbling because you are here. Like all the naysayers, if you really didn't care you wouldn't make it a huge issue by turning up every other day.
Why should your view be more superior to someone who questions all of this? I have nothing against Austin and Sophia and don't often comment on either. But I have no doubt about the business of bearding in Hollywood is in full swing and they are candidates to be part of it, just like anyone else. That's what this site was set up for and you know where the door is if you can't accept other people think differently.
Nobody forces you to take part here.
Most of the posters here are straight women , here via DC forum like me.
This is not a gay blog, like Towerload, so very few actual gay men poste here and the one's that do sound like the same Log Cabin types that post in DC.
Greg's Blue Dot? If this is the same place that was in L.A. then when did Grey Goose hive this BJ? That place has been closed for years.
And who would use Grey Goose to descrie Nichols except members of Jake's online fandom which is mostly women, so odds are a woman poated that on DL, a gay man would just say Nichols since most of what's left of TT fans are women.
I see that straight women still post on the DL pretending to be gay men.
Next time they should give a timeline for these "stories" or check to see if these places still exisists unless it reopened. I think it did in '07 but it was called the Dive.
You still don't get it. Are you aware that I am talking about men and or women who deal with, (have sex) with both sexes?
You don't understand what bisexual means.
Bisexuals can be in a relationship with a man or with a woman.
Bisexual does NOT mean that you want/have sex with men while you're in a relationship with a woman.
P.S. You don't understand what gay means either: "Some men will deal with each other sexually behind closed doors but have no intentions of living a gay lifestyle."
Bisexual does NOT mean that you want/have sex with men while you're in a relationship with a woman.
It certainly could mean that.
Sorry 7:29 AM, you can't change terms and human sexuality to fit your agenda.
He said he is dating Sophia.
You deal with that!
It's his statement.
Deal with what? LOL
If he said he was gay and dating Jake your ass would believe it and use the statement as evidence.
You are an idiot.
And who would use Grey Goose to descrie Nichols except members of Jake's online fandom which is mostly women, so odds are a woman poated that on DL, a gay man would just say Nichols since most of what's left of TT fans are women.
Talk about conspiracy theories. LOL!
Austin's claim to "fame" most likely is as Grey Goose rather than his own birth name.
Straight women are not qualified to discus gay male sexuality, reading and writing slash and lurking and following gossip and reposting doesn't count.
This is what is happening here, i recognize some of the comments from DC forum where the female brokies there are clearly confused and can't seperate RL with slash.
7:45 Really? Go on an actual gay site and mention GG and see if they know who you are talking about and I don't mean the DL, that site has been taken over by Haus Fraus.
Ted named Nichols GG at the insistantance of TT fans that wanted him to give TT's BF a name so he did, GG was bantered about on OMG and WFT before one of the posters e-mailed Ted and made the suggestion so it would be no surprise if the same fangirls would post about GG on Dl including that Greg Blue Dot story, a club that has been closed for years.
My guess is that she lives in L.A. and is some 50 plus faghag and thought that the place was still open. If that did actually happen it would have ben back when it was open and Nichols was not called GG then.
7:33, what makes you an expert? Are you really implying that because somoeone is in a relationship that they are not attracted to others but may or may not act on it? Haven't got a whole lot of life experience, have you. A bisexual person is attracted to both sexes. For most people of any sexuality, awareness of others in varying degrees doesn't stop abruptly. The strength of the relationship and the individual nature of the person is what determines it. Also how they choose to identify. For some, they may be hiding their true sexuality from themselves, but for others, what they say is what is, and who are we to argue.
Straight women are not qualified to discus gay male sexuality
That's bullshit. You don't have to be gay to understand what gay means. You don't have to be straight to understand what straight means. There are 1.000.000 life stories from closeted gays, explaining why and how they faked their relationships with women. Humans can understand human feelings and actions.
You can understand and empathize, but you don't know someone's experiences unless you have been there yourself. So, straight people are not qualified, and gay people are not qualified about straight sexuality either.
7:33, what makes you an expert? Are you really implying that because somoeone is in a relationship that they are not attracted to others but may or may not act on it?
You don't need to be an expert to see that you are spinning.
Having an opinion is one thing, changing gay and bisexual terms to fit your agenda is something else.
Yes, always fall back on that.
You can understand and empathize, but you don't know someone's experiences unless you have been there yourself.
The same is true for YOU. You are gay? So what, that doesn't mean you share other people gay experiences.
Absolutely, you got it.
Okay, after all that. Austin is gay as a goose. Not bisexual. Sophia Bush is a famewhore and is using his need for a beard because of OTH. Gives the show's fans a squeeeeee opportunity. Look at the Lakers photos. Austin looks like he wants to be anywhere else except there. You can see he didn't even make an effort to look good. Yet, she is wearing canary yellow which screams, "Look at me." He's in black, which seems appropriate. Probably in mourning for his manhood.
Probably in mourning for his manhood.
How are you defining manhood?
How are you defining manhood?
Allowing himself to be used as a tool of the corporate media bosses. Instead of leading an open and honest life, he's selling the ideal of heterosexuality to get work. It's one thing to be in the closet. It's another thing to pretend you're something you are not. The conclusion is that there's something wrong about being gay.
@itshilton. I will follow you if you tell all your tweeps to follow me.
14 hours ago
FWIW, it's true that at least from the pics I saw, Austin doesn't look as thrilled to be there as he was in Lakers I. No eye-gazing, no closeness in body language, no nothin'.
On my way to #obama's homeland - Hawaii!!
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Just saw Jake Gyllenhall #celebritysiting
10 hours ago
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Bisexual does NOT mean that you want/have sex with men while you're in a relationship with a woman.
I does! It means any male or female who has and interest in both sexes and has sex with both sexes. The deffinition of bisexulaity does not state anywhere that the person, male or female has to be OPEN about there true identity of having sex with men and women.
By your deffinition of a person who Only "ADMITs" they have an interest in, or have sex with both sexes can be bisexual.
NOT TRUE. And it's pure bullsh_t. There are many men and women bisexuals in the closet.
You can call them ((GAY)) if it makes (YOU) happy, but you have alot to learn.
Bisexual does NOT mean that you want/have sex with men while you're in a relationship with a woman.
I does! It means any male or female who has and interest in both sexes and has sex with both sexes. The deffinition of bisexulaity does not state anywhere that the person, male or female has to be OPEN about there true identity of having sex with men and women.
By your deffinition of a person who Only "ADMITs" they have an interest in, or have sex with both sexes can be bisexual.
NOT TRUE. And it's pure bullsh_t. There are many men and women bisexuals in the closet.
You can call them ((GAY)) if it makes (YOU) happy, but you have alot to learn.
^^ needed to be posted again.
If he said he was gay and dating Jake your ass would believe it and use the statement as evidence.
You are an idiot.
That facts have been stated.
They were Austin's comments.
YOU may be an idiot because you refuse to believe his statement, you have that choice, BUT, You would believe it totally if he said he was gay and dating Jake.
Then you would use it for evidence of "the truth".
^^ sounds like an agenda to me and a little picking and choosing.
Let's not forget idiotic.
Bisexual does NOT mean that you want/have sex with men while you're in a relationship with a woman.
I does! It means any male or female who has and interest in both sexes and has sex with both sexes.
Your ignorance is mind boggling. Unfuckingbelievable.
You would believe it totally if he said he was gay and dating Jake.
You are crazy idiot. Closeted gay celebrities have 1.000 reasons to lie and stay in the closet. Which male celebrity would lie about being gay and outing a friend?
10:09 AM - thanks trolly for confirming that bullshit like 9:48 AM can be posted only by silly troll :)
There are 1.000.000 life stories from closeted gays, explaining why and how they faked their relationships with women.
^ That's very true and I agree with you. The stories that you don't hear or read about often are the ones of men and women who are married who secretly have sex with another same sex partner but are still commented to and love their wives or husbands. The other example is the partners, husband/wives, girlfriend/boyfriend who have sex with multiple people which can and will be same sex pairings, male/female/male or the one most accepted by society, female/man/female where all participate.
These are the stories you don't read about that often, but they are there. For whatever reasons the vast majority of these people don't talk about it openly so you won't hear their stories.
Also, sexuality is varied and different for lots of people.
Not just straight or Gay.
men and women who are married who secretly have sex with another same sex partner but are still commented to and love their wives or husbands.
^(Committed)^
^^ and have loving and fullfilling sex with their spouses. And have children and raise them.
Let's see, icky girls, haus fraus, faghag and lots of explicit self-pleasuring keyboarding.....yup, yup, yup.
Gee, wonder who that would be.
have loving and fullfilling sex with their spouses
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People who have loving and fullfilling heterosexual sex don't need gay sex on the side.
These are the stories you don't read about that often, but they are there. For whatever reasons the vast majority of these people don't talk about it openly so you won't hear their stories.
They don't talk but you can read their minds?
Anonymous said...
P.S. You don't understand what gay means either: "Some men will deal with each other sexually behind closed doors but have no intentions of living a gay lifestyle."
FACT FACT FACT
Your ignorance is mind boggling. Unfuckingbelievable.
what's unbelievable is your rigid mind about sexuality when it comes to men.
That's unfuckingbelieable.
That men are only gay or straight then you create your own definition of bisexuality to fit your agenda. It's not only unbelieable but pitiful also.
My assertion all along has been that Jake or Austin could be bisexual as with many people are, especially men who will hide this just as gay men do.
Your determination to label them ((as you see it)) is bright as the sun. There is no open mindedness in you and your agenda speaks volumes. You're not fooling anyone.
Your ANGER about this subject matter also sheds light on a troubled soul.
Only RIDGID gay men, slash fans or JIG fangirls without an Open Mind would understand you.
And Happy Mothers Day to YOU!
People who have loving and fullfilling heterosexual sex don't need gay sex on the side.
^^ that makes them BISEXUAL.
ok
10:52 AM - you don't understand what term bisexual means. Bisexual means that you can have emotional and sexual relationships with men and with woman.
On the other hand, some (closeted) gays can have sex with women, but they will always want gay sex.
^^ and the closeted gay Women???
Oh, let me see, if they are beautiful and busty, they can deal with men and WOMEN and be label bi or should we say, BISEXUAL, then all is well. She deals mostly with men. She's not gay or confused she likes both and Will have sex with both. What's her label by your definition?
When a MAN does the Exact same thing, he's gay. Even if he prefers sex with women 90% of the time, by most posters here and in our worldly society, he's nothing but gay.
The bisexual term is not for men in our society by the deffinition most here have.
He's either Straight or Gay.
The deffinition of bisexuality could be man or woman, somewhere along the lines it got changed or thrown out when it comes to men.
Society did it!
and the closeted gay Women???
Jake and Austin and James and ... are men.
Even if he prefers sex with women 90% of the time, by most posters here and in our worldly society, he's nothing but gay.
Jake didn't date women for years and years.
When a MAN does the Exact same thing, he's gay. Even if he prefers sex with women 90% of the time, by most posters here and in our worldly society, he's nothing but gay.
That is NOT true. Closeted gays who have sex with women are gay. Bisexual men are OK with only heterosexual sex while they are in a relationship with a woman.
Source Code dropped from the top 10, BUT after so many flops he finally had a critically acclaimed film with Code and a decent B.O. hit. 50 miillions is better than his usual approximately 30 millions per movie at the domestic B.O.. Not a big hit, but decent.
News flash: Happily married couples and those who love each other can still have sex on the side - it's a matter of opportunity available, how highly sexed one is, etc. Men and women can get turned on by the same sex or the opposite sex, and it's not always exclusive. Sex and love don't always go together - if they do, it's wonderful, but it doesn't happen that way all the time. A lot of the time monogamy for some is a choice they make, or it can be due to society and religious beliefs.
Source Code will make a profit, movie is good, no reason to complain.
Happily married couples and those who love each other can still have sex on the side
Sure!
Fucking someone on the side is a sign that you love and respect your partner!
Fucking someone on the side is a sign that you are happy in your relationship!
I have no idea why people are divorcing over such things.
Men and women can get turned on by the same sex or the opposite sex, and it's not always exclusive.
Straight men and women don't get turned on by the same sex.
Straight couples can explore whatever they want to in the privacy of their own home. I don't think human beings are monogamous by nature, especially the males. There are always exceptions. People do divorce over extra-marital sex, and they also forgive and forget. It's their business.
OK, but what that has to do with bisexulity or homosexuality?
I'd be scared if my partner sleeps around and not always uses condoms and gets Hepatitis or HIV and contracts me... I think I'd kill him before the disease kills him.
That' my biggest fear. I prefer to be monogamous in a relationship and I expect that from my partner too. Though it can always happen to fall for someone else during a relationship... there is nothing one can do abou it. Just let go an move on.
Being in love only lasts for so long, if you don't have friendship and other important things in common, you are doomed.
It has to do with the fact that what turns people on or what makes up their sexuality isn't clear cut.
Cheating and lying isn't respectful to a partner, but honesty is.
My brain is wired for monogamy also. :)
^^It's wiser, really.
Cheating and lying is a sign of poor character. Sometimes, even with everything going for you, friendship and things in common, a long-term relationship is doomed. I chose someone with poor character.
Though it can always happen to fall for someone else during a relationship... there is nothing one can do abou it. Just let go an move on.
That's true but when it happens to you it's not easy. When you're in love and your partner has fallen for someone else and doesn't want you anymore it's painful. Things are simple in theory, in real life it's not so easy to accept and move on.
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